Who Are You?

Have you ever seen a prepubescent sociopath? :eusa_eh:

:eek: Scary little fuckers if they have it deep.​
 
Modern sociopaths are not all stupid monsters. Being a sociopath just means having less empathy than 'regular' Monkeys, and, like most personality traits, it appears in varying degrees. I'll bet a dollar, dear readers, that each and every one of you knows someone whose empathy meter could stand a tweak toward more.

Moments on a Timeline.

Between the time that truly free and naked humans first appeared on earth, and the time that Monkeys began to pull on clothing and gather in cities, strong family relationships were pretty much required for any given member of our species have any real opportunity to move something of themselves up the Timeline via reproduction. I imagine that during this time of very close-knit family growth, the survival to reproduction rates for sociopaths were relatively low.

And then Monkeys began to put on costumes and gather in cities. Being a sociopath or psychopath who had enough self control and intelligence to blend in to whatever was passing for 'society' at the time became an evolutionary advantage, especially if you could acquire a lot of resources.

And then there were kings and wars.

Obviously this is my humble opinion and you are looking at the link to this information. There is absolutely no way of knowing what the average Monkey was thinking when humans were truly free and naked and nature was selecting them to breed. As always, further speculation below is encouraged. Imagination is a powerful Monkey trait.


Which begs the question...

Given a sociopath who is smart enough to understand the rules and ruthless enough bend them fearlessly around both his peers and his competition in business, would you rather work for him, or invest in him?

:dunno:
 
Have you ever seen a prepubescent sociopath? :eusa_eh:

:eek: Scary little fuckers if they have it deep.​

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"And what you dressed as?"

"I'm a homocidal maniac. They look like everyone else."

- Wednesday Adams
 
Is being a sociopath a mark of leadership among Monkeys, or is being a leader among Monkeys simply the best use of a talented sociopath?

:eusa_think:
 
First question...Invest
Second question... A sociopath tends to be a lone wolf. To be a leader requires direct sole attention to a group. NOT going to happen and being a "monkey" provides cover from time to time and the ability to shift from one group to another.

They do not take NOR accept leadership as that stifles them.
 

What caused you to think about this subject, Joe? What do sociopaths do? They are capable of killing people without the slightest trace of empathy. But does that always identify the culprit as a sociopath? I do not believe so.

Are the people knifing Israelis and laughing about it sociopaths? No. I believe they are beyond frustrated. To the point of this eruption of violence that we see cascading down upon the civilians inside Israel like an avalanche. I suspect it will become worse. What is causing it? I believe they are so far beyond frustration, so far beyond the point of being able to even rationally think or discuss what is troubling them, that it's come to the point of no turning back. That is what I see happening over there. And right now? That is the only sociopath type behavior that has center stage for discussion in my opinion. Because it is happening. In real time.
 
First question...Invest
Second question... A sociopath tends to be a lone wolf. To be a leader requires direct sole attention to a group. NOT going to happen and being a "monkey" provides cover from time to time and the ability to shift from one group to another.

They do not take NOR accept leadership as that stifles them.


I don't disagree with that.

You're right of course and the deeper the sociopath runs in a Monkey the more likely he or she is to be a lone wolf type.

But in varying degrees...

What I'm saying is that, through out history, having less empathy is a trait that seems to have been rewarded with whatever Monkeys were defining as 'success' at the moment. Like every where else in nature, it's the successful Monkeys who get to push their blood up the Timeline.

The human traits of love and loyalty can focus empathy to the point where Monkeys will kill and die for each other, but only so far as they can map the bloodlines through time. Strong family is another successful trait in our evolution.

We've all seen Monkeys who can afford to breed but shouldn't.

:stupid:
 
First question...Invest
Second question... A sociopath tends to be a lone wolf. To be a leader requires direct sole attention to a group. NOT going to happen and being a "monkey" provides cover from time to time and the ability to shift from one group to another.

They do not take NOR accept leadership as that stifles them.


I don't disagree with that.

You're right of course and the deeper the sociopath runs in a Monkey the more likely he or she is to be a lone wolf type.

But in varying degrees...

What I'm saying is that, through out history, having less empathy is a trait that seems to have been rewarded with whatever Monkeys were defining as 'success' at the moment. Like every where else in nature, it's the successful Monkeys who get to push their blood up the Timeline.

The human traits of love and loyalty can focus empathy to the point where Monkeys will kill and die for each other, but only so far as they can map the bloodlines through time. Strong family is another successful trait in our evolution.

We've all seen Monkeys who can afford to breed but shouldn't.

:stupid:
I think a sociopathic monkey would rely on another monkeys empathy and guide it toward guilt thus being able to turn the empathy monkey into a servant.

In the end a sociopath monkey is only looking for a tool to his ends. Because to the sociopath monkey that's all the empathy monkey is. Just a tool.
 

What caused you to think about this subject, Joe? What do sociopaths do? They are capable of killing people without the slightest trace of empathy. But does that always identify the culprit as a sociopath? I do not believe so.

Are the people knifing Israelis and laughing about it sociopaths? No. I believe they are beyond frustrated. To the point of this eruption of violence that we see cascading down upon the civilians inside Israel like an avalanche. I suspect it will become worse. What is causing it? I believe they are so far beyond frustration, so far beyond the point of being able to even rationally think or discuss what is troubling them, that it's come to the point of no turning back. That is what I see happening over there. And right now? That is the only sociopath type behavior that has center stage for discussion in my opinion. Because it is happening. In real time.



So what if they're capable? My point being, like every other Monkey with the brains, mobility and resources to kill, most sociopaths don't. Breaking those rules is messy at best and not worth the hassle. I would also wager that in this day and age it's the guy with the sociopathic tendencies who will be more likely to talk his way our of a bar fight, walk away and never look back. That kind of killing comes form the more passionate traits in Monkeys.

I emphasize 'this day and age...' because eras on the Timeline exist when that same guy would have assembled or joined a team of like-minded thugs and simply taken what they want. There were no pesky rules in place to deal with.

As far as the middle east goes, sociopaths and psychopaths alike seem to have spread their seed down the timeline in that region with at the very least an 'average' success rate. A lot of the violence can certainly be attributed to people with few rules enforced and nothing better to do, but there is also a lot of anger among the passionate.

Leadership? It takes a deeeeeeep sociopath to focus that kind of passionate anger into an organization with the depth of ISIS. Religion is just another tool used to feed his hungers for that preacher.
 
First question...Invest
Second question... A sociopath tends to be a lone wolf. To be a leader requires direct sole attention to a group. NOT going to happen and being a "monkey" provides cover from time to time and the ability to shift from one group to another.

They do not take NOR accept leadership as that stifles them.


I don't disagree with that.

You're right of course and the deeper the sociopath runs in a Monkey the more likely he or she is to be a lone wolf type.

But in varying degrees...

What I'm saying is that, through out history, having less empathy is a trait that seems to have been rewarded with whatever Monkeys were defining as 'success' at the moment. Like every where else in nature, it's the successful Monkeys who get to push their blood up the Timeline.

The human traits of love and loyalty can focus empathy to the point where Monkeys will kill and die for each other, but only so far as they can map the bloodlines through time. Strong family is another successful trait in our evolution.

We've all seen Monkeys who can afford to breed but shouldn't.

:stupid:
I think a sociopathic monkey would rely on another monkeys empathy and guide it toward guilt thus being able to turn the empathy monkey into a servant.

In the end a sociopath monkey is only looking for a tool to his ends. Because to the sociopath monkey that's all the empathy monkey is. Just a tool.


Sociopaths don't feel guilt. that's the point.

Many are plenty smart enough to understand and obey the rules for more practical reasons.

P.S. When I use the word 'Monkey' to refer to the current dominate species on Earth, it is from a species wide viewpoint on the Timeline and with the utmost respect for our blossoming Sentience.

Hence the capital 'M' :thup:
 
A sociopath is not just someone who lacks empathy. A sociopath is anti social, criminal, and narcissistic.

And this thread's smug pedantry is reminiscent of the twisted shit a sociopath would believe. It's all about justification.
 
First question...Invest
Second question... A sociopath tends to be a lone wolf. To be a leader requires direct sole attention to a group. NOT going to happen and being a "monkey" provides cover from time to time and the ability to shift from one group to another.

They do not take NOR accept leadership as that stifles them.


I don't disagree with that.

You're right of course and the deeper the sociopath runs in a Monkey the more likely he or she is to be a lone wolf type.

But in varying degrees...

What I'm saying is that, through out history, having less empathy is a trait that seems to have been rewarded with whatever Monkeys were defining as 'success' at the moment. Like every where else in nature, it's the successful Monkeys who get to push their blood up the Timeline.

The human traits of love and loyalty can focus empathy to the point where Monkeys will kill and die for each other, but only so far as they can map the bloodlines through time. Strong family is another successful trait in our evolution.

We've all seen Monkeys who can afford to breed but shouldn't.

:stupid:
I think a sociopathic monkey would rely on another monkeys empathy and guide it toward guilt thus being able to turn the empathy monkey into a servant.

In the end a sociopath monkey is only looking for a tool to his ends. Because to the sociopath monkey that's all the empathy monkey is. Just a tool.


Sociopaths don't feel guilt. that's the point.

Many are plenty smart enough to understand and obey the rules for more practical reasons.

P.S. When I use the word 'Monkey' to refer to the current dominate species on Earth, it is from a species wide viewpoint on the Timeline and with the utmost respect for our blossoming Sentience.

Hence the capital 'M' :thup:
Yes, because you're crazy but think you're brilliant, like most sociopaths.

And why is this in religion and ethics? I see no religious or ethics patter...
 
First question...Invest
Second question... A sociopath tends to be a lone wolf. To be a leader requires direct sole attention to a group. NOT going to happen and being a "monkey" provides cover from time to time and the ability to shift from one group to another.

They do not take NOR accept leadership as that stifles them.


I don't disagree with that.

You're right of course and the deeper the sociopath runs in a Monkey the more likely he or she is to be a lone wolf type.

But in varying degrees...

What I'm saying is that, through out history, having less empathy is a trait that seems to have been rewarded with whatever Monkeys were defining as 'success' at the moment. Like every where else in nature, it's the successful Monkeys who get to push their blood up the Timeline.

The human traits of love and loyalty can focus empathy to the point where Monkeys will kill and die for each other, but only so far as they can map the bloodlines through time. Strong family is another successful trait in our evolution.

We've all seen Monkeys who can afford to breed but shouldn't.

:stupid:

Joe, I have always seen you as a deep well. Someone who thinks deeply about things. But sometimes? Maybe we can overthink things. You know what? I do not care if the other guy wins. I truly do not care. I believe what will be will be and I cannot afford to not pour out my heart when I feel empathy! I can't afford to remain silent although my words may offend or change someone's mind about me. About success...... My family was quite strong, even prominent and they were quite put off by my generous nature as a child. It just was not done in my family, Joe. Yet for me? It was as natural as breathing. To be sincere was to be willing to give away what I saw someone else in need of. If I had it, I had no problem parting with it. I always got the greatest pleasure in seeing someone sad become overwhelmed with joy! I believe it cured many of my own sorrows (which were not brought on by lack of money!). It just helped me to forget about myself!

It is possible that one becomes a sociopath because they cannot grasp the concept of giving rather than taking. Greed can do many evil things to a person. It would not surprise me to learn that greed contributed to the mindset of a sociopath. Not at all.
 
First question...Invest
Second question... A sociopath tends to be a lone wolf. To be a leader requires direct sole attention to a group. NOT going to happen and being a "monkey" provides cover from time to time and the ability to shift from one group to another.

They do not take NOR accept leadership as that stifles them.


I don't disagree with that.

You're right of course and the deeper the sociopath runs in a Monkey the more likely he or she is to be a lone wolf type.

But in varying degrees...

What I'm saying is that, through out history, having less empathy is a trait that seems to have been rewarded with whatever Monkeys were defining as 'success' at the moment. Like every where else in nature, it's the successful Monkeys who get to push their blood up the Timeline.

The human traits of love and loyalty can focus empathy to the point where Monkeys will kill and die for each other, but only so far as they can map the bloodlines through time. Strong family is another successful trait in our evolution.

We've all seen Monkeys who can afford to breed but shouldn't.

:stupid:
I think a sociopathic monkey would rely on another monkeys empathy and guide it toward guilt thus being able to turn the empathy monkey into a servant.

In the end a sociopath monkey is only looking for a tool to his ends. Because to the sociopath monkey that's all the empathy monkey is. Just a tool.


O.k., I get this better now...

I'm just as sure that the people responsible for industrializing slavery were channeling their inner sociopath as I am that the first slave was a child holding a "Will Work For Food" sign catching the eye of a compassionate woman.

It's just a trait. Like other traits, it's seen stronger in some Monkeys than in others.

WYGD? :dunno:
 
A sociopath is not just someone who lacks empathy. A sociopath is anti social, criminal, and narcissistic.

And this thread's smug pedantry is reminiscent of the twisted shit a sociopath would believe. It's all about justification.
Empathy is only a tool to be mimicked by the sociopath. You have to remove ALL feelings both good and bad as NONE of them matter. A sociopath is VERY social if that is the skill needed when with the other monkey's

 
First question...Invest
Second question... A sociopath tends to be a lone wolf. To be a leader requires direct sole attention to a group. NOT going to happen and being a "monkey" provides cover from time to time and the ability to shift from one group to another.

They do not take NOR accept leadership as that stifles them.


I don't disagree with that.

You're right of course and the deeper the sociopath runs in a Monkey the more likely he or she is to be a lone wolf type.

But in varying degrees...

What I'm saying is that, through out history, having less empathy is a trait that seems to have been rewarded with whatever Monkeys were defining as 'success' at the moment. Like every where else in nature, it's the successful Monkeys who get to push their blood up the Timeline.

The human traits of love and loyalty can focus empathy to the point where Monkeys will kill and die for each other, but only so far as they can map the bloodlines through time. Strong family is another successful trait in our evolution.

We've all seen Monkeys who can afford to breed but shouldn't.

:stupid:
I think a sociopathic monkey would rely on another monkeys empathy and guide it toward guilt thus being able to turn the empathy monkey into a servant.

In the end a sociopath monkey is only looking for a tool to his ends. Because to the sociopath monkey that's all the empathy monkey is. Just a tool.


O.k., I get this better now...

I'm just as sure that the people responsible for industrializing slavery were channeling their inner sociopath as I am that the first slave was a child holding a "Will Work For Food" sign catching the eye of a compassionate woman.

It's just a trait. Like other traits, it's seen stronger in some Monkeys than in others.

WYGD? :dunno:
No, sociopathy is not a trait. It is a whole mess of traits.
 
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