Who Are The Palestinians?

[toastman]

Yo Theliq, who is this friend of Hitler?

http://histclo.com/imagef/date/2011/12/mufti-ah41s.jpg

Who woulds thought they would end up having so much in common?

 

[Vigilante]

 

[theliq]

Utter Garbage...and you know it,Palestinians have been in the process of gaining their independence from Yoke of Israel for 60 years+....these Islamists you call Islamonazis (garbage monika in the first place)ISIS have only been around for the past few years!!!!!!!so your summation is fraudulent to say the least.

As for calling Pro-Palestinian posters ISLAMONAZI is a corruption of your mind only(What mind I hear the folks say)Palestine is not ISIS,never have been,never will be.....the nearest thing in the last 100 years to ISISium is Zionism

Hardly true as they have only been Palestinians since 1964 when Arafat told them they were, before that they were Syrians. They had the chance of freedom in 1948 and refused to take it up, preferring to go to war in the false idea that they would win. They were destroyed and the real reason for the invasion by Jordan was soon realised. The fact that their leader was one of Hitlers bed fellows shows that they were more akin to the NAZI's and FASCIST's than any other political ideology. The concept of both ideologies are firmly based on the practises of islam notably the dhimmi laws, pact of Omar and the totalitarian caliphate. If Palestine wanted independence they need only apply the terms of the UN charter and agree to abide by the many resolutions dictating negotiations on mutual borders and peace and they could be independent within a month. But with independence comes a high price, and just part of that price is border controls that are covered by International law. Along with paying for services provided and setting in place a means of supplying goods to the people. It also means they will have to give up terrorism, violence, belligerence and anti Israeli propaganda or face sanctions imposed by the UN.
I call all muslims that subscribe to the Koran and its teachings of death to the unbelievers ISLAMONAZIS because that is a Nazi concept. So until islam alters the way it teaches its followers the violence and terrorism it does then they will be ISLAMONAZI's, Just as the brainwashed muslims that deny there is a major problem with islam and its teachings will be called ISLAMONAZI BRAINWASHED STOOGES. Don't like the reality then change the fundementals.
As for ISLAMONAZI TERORISTS the only answer is a cluster bomb dropped on them and their remains left for the dogs to eat. They have no place even in an uncivilised country for the way they treat others, and those that travel from other countries to fight should face seeing their families rounded up and evicted as enemy undesireables.


Calling pro Palestinians ISLAMONAZI BRAINWASHED STOOGES is a truth that you don't like, just as Wilders film Fitna was a truth that ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDISTS did not like being shown. The truth about islam can be found in the Koran and hadiths by anyone that has a mind to look and read them in their full and proper context. Many read the Koran as any other book and start at page one, when the trick is to get an abrogated copy so you can see the decent of the false prophets decline into greater mental instability. Then you see how his mental instability forged the violent islam we see today, how muslims are taught from an early age barbarity and violence. How killing is a way of life and land theft a command from their moon god.

As I said IDIOT

Typical ISLAMONAZI reply when the reality that is islam is shown as a self evident truth, resort to personal abuse. Keep it up and you will be reported with a request you be banned.

Of course you will....Hoss is a mate,I'm sure he will take my tease in the way it is given......LOL...anyhow,a normal bodily function a bit hard (excuse the pun) for you to take Fatty-Fatty.....Too bad........I have a great sense of humour(and for the rhythm track alone,it's worth a listen).............shame you carry Zionist Guiltiness like a chip on your shoulder......the post wasn't for you but for Hoss..........so stop being Nosey invading other folks posts but then you know all about invading,don't ya.

Keep it up and YOU will be BANNED for being a NOSEY B_T_H.......lol.

You can keep repeating yourself on this ad nauseum, Steve, but anti-Zionism is the new way to be anti-Semitic while claiming that you aren't. If the pro Pali posters here were not anti-Semitic, they wouldn't be obsessing about the Jews and Israel only but would also be concerned with what is happening to innocent people in the rest of the Middle East. This is how readers can tell who is just anti-Israel and not plain anti-Semitic. I don't think that the readers are stupid enough to believe that all you pro Palis really care about the Arabs. Also, Steve, you are not running this forum. Everyone can post on any thread they want to, even those in response to your posts regardless of you addressing them or not. Phoenall has every right to post without you threatening to get him banned.

O shit Hoss, I thought Phoney was a Femme........so the JOKE IS ON ME..LOL....................NO ANTI-ZIONISM........is NOT ANTI-SEMITISM ,treat me with a bit of Savvy......not some Clod........only Zionist Terrorists say SHIT LIKE THAT because they are the GUILTY...the Murderers and Userpers...SAY NO TO VILE ZIONISM........but say YES FOR JEWS AND PALESTINIANS...the true Simetic people

 

[theliq]

Yo Theliq, who is this friend of Hitler?

http://histclo.com/imagef/date/2011/12/mufti-ah41s.jpg

Who woulds thought they would end up having so much in common?

Your Grammar is appaulling today Toastie

 

[theliq]

Utter Garbage...and you know it,Palestinians have been in the process of gaining their independence from Yoke of Israel for 60 years+....these Islamists you call Islamonazis (garbage monika in the first place)ISIS have only been around for the past few years!!!!!!!so your summation is fraudulent to say the least.

As for calling Pro-Palestinian posters ISLAMONAZI is a corruption of your mind only(What mind I hear the folks say)Palestine is not ISIS,never have been,never will be.....the nearest thing in the last 100 years to ISISium is Zionism

Hardly true as they have only been Palestinians since 1964 when Arafat told them they were, before that they were Syrians. They had the chance of freedom in 1948 and refused to take it up, preferring to go to war in the false idea that they would win. They were destroyed and the real reason for the invasion by Jordan was soon realised. The fact that their leader was one of Hitlers bed fellows shows that they were more akin to the NAZI's and FASCIST's than any other political ideology. The concept of both ideologies are firmly based on the practises of islam notably the dhimmi laws, pact of Omar and the totalitarian caliphate. If Palestine wanted independence they need only apply the terms of the UN charter and agree to abide by the many resolutions dictating negotiations on mutual borders and peace and they could be independent within a month. But with independence comes a high price, and just part of that price is border controls that are covered by International law. Along with paying for services provided and setting in place a means of supplying goods to the people. It also means they will have to give up terrorism, violence, belligerence and anti Israeli propaganda or face sanctions imposed by the UN.
I call all muslims that subscribe to the Koran and its teachings of death to the unbelievers ISLAMONAZIS because that is a Nazi concept. So until islam alters the way it teaches its followers the violence and terrorism it does then they will be ISLAMONAZI's, Just as the brainwashed muslims that deny there is a major problem with islam and its teachings will be called ISLAMONAZI BRAINWASHED STOOGES. Don't like the reality then change the fundementals.
As for ISLAMONAZI TERORISTS the only answer is a cluster bomb dropped on them and their remains left for the dogs to eat. They have no place even in an uncivilised country for the way they treat others, and those that travel from other countries to fight should face seeing their families rounded up and evicted as enemy undesireables.


Calling pro Palestinians ISLAMONAZI BRAINWASHED STOOGES is a truth that you don't like, just as Wilders film Fitna was a truth that ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDISTS did not like being shown. The truth about islam can be found in the Koran and hadiths by anyone that has a mind to look and read them in their full and proper context. Many read the Koran as any other book and start at page one, when the trick is to get an abrogated copy so you can see the decent of the false prophets decline into greater mental instability. Then you see how his mental instability forged the violent islam we see today, how muslims are taught from an early age barbarity and violence. How killing is a way of life and land theft a command from their moon god.

As I said IDIOT

Typical ISLAMONAZI reply when the reality that is islam is shown as a self evident truth, resort to personal abuse. Keep it up and you will be reported with a request you be banned.

Of course you will....Hoss is a mate,I'm sure he will take my tease in the way it is given......LOL...anyhow,a normal bodily function a bit hard (excuse the pun) for you to take Fatty-Fatty.....Too bad........I have a great sense of humour(and for the rhythm track alone,it's worth a listen).............shame you carry Zionist Guiltiness like a chip on your shoulder......the post wasn't for you but for Hoss..........so stop being Nosey invading other folks posts but then you know all about invading,don't ya.

Keep it up and YOU will be BANNED for being a NOSEY B_T_H.......lol.

You can keep repeating yourself on this ad nauseum, Steve, but anti-Zionism is the new way to be anti-Semitic while claiming that you aren't. If the pro Pali posters here were not anti-Semitic, they wouldn't be obsessing about the Jews and Israel only but would also be concerned with what is happening to innocent people in the rest of the Middle East. This is how readers can tell who is just anti-Israel and not plain anti-Semitic. I don't think that the readers are stupid enough to believe that all you pro Palis really care about the Arabs. Also, Steve, you are not running this forum. Everyone can post on any thread they want to, even those in response to your posts regardless of you addressing them or not. Phoenall has every right to post without you threatening to get him banned.

I am disgusted with some of the Arab world Hoss but that and my opinions are for another thread..steve

 

[theliq]

Utter Garbage...and you know it,Palestinians have been in the process of gaining their independence from Yoke of Israel for 60 years+....these Islamists you call Islamonazis (garbage monika in the first place)ISIS have only been around for the past few years!!!!!!!so your summation is fraudulent to say the least.

As for calling Pro-Palestinian posters ISLAMONAZI is a corruption of your mind only(What mind I hear the folks say)Palestine is not ISIS,never have been,never will be.....the nearest thing in the last 100 years to ISISium is Zionism

Hardly true as they have only been Palestinians since 1964 when Arafat told them they were, before that they were Syrians. They had the chance of freedom in 1948 and refused to take it up, preferring to go to war in the false idea that they would win. They were destroyed and the real reason for the invasion by Jordan was soon realised. The fact that their leader was one of Hitlers bed fellows shows that they were more akin to the NAZI's and FASCIST's than any other political ideology. The concept of both ideologies are firmly based on the practises of islam notably the dhimmi laws, pact of Omar and the totalitarian caliphate. If Palestine wanted independence they need only apply the terms of the UN charter and agree to abide by the many resolutions dictating negotiations on mutual borders and peace and they could be independent within a month. But with independence comes a high price, and just part of that price is border controls that are covered by International law. Along with paying for services provided and setting in place a means of supplying goods to the people. It also means they will have to give up terrorism, violence, belligerence and anti Israeli propaganda or face sanctions imposed by the UN.
I call all muslims that subscribe to the Koran and its teachings of death to the unbelievers ISLAMONAZIS because that is a Nazi concept. So until islam alters the way it teaches its followers the violence and terrorism it does then they will be ISLAMONAZI's, Just as the brainwashed muslims that deny there is a major problem with islam and its teachings will be called ISLAMONAZI BRAINWASHED STOOGES. Don't like the reality then change the fundementals.
As for ISLAMONAZI TERORISTS the only answer is a cluster bomb dropped on them and their remains left for the dogs to eat. They have no place even in an uncivilised country for the way they treat others, and those that travel from other countries to fight should face seeing their families rounded up and evicted as enemy undesireables.


Calling pro Palestinians ISLAMONAZI BRAINWASHED STOOGES is a truth that you don't like, just as Wilders film Fitna was a truth that ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDISTS did not like being shown. The truth about islam can be found in the Koran and hadiths by anyone that has a mind to look and read them in their full and proper context. Many read the Koran as any other book and start at page one, when the trick is to get an abrogated copy so you can see the decent of the false prophets decline into greater mental instability. Then you see how his mental instability forged the violent islam we see today, how muslims are taught from an early age barbarity and violence. How killing is a way of life and land theft a command from their moon god.

As I said IDIOT

Typical ISLAMONAZI reply when the reality that is islam is shown as a self evident truth, resort to personal abuse. Keep it up and you will be reported with a request you be banned.

Of course you will....Hoss is a mate,I'm sure he will take my tease in the way it is given......LOL...anyhow,a normal bodily function a bit hard (excuse the pun) for you to take Fatty-Fatty.....Too bad........I have a great sense of humour(and for the rhythm track alone,it's worth a listen).............shame you carry Zionist Guiltiness like a chip on your shoulder......the post wasn't for you but for Hoss..........so stop being Nosey invading other folks posts but then you know all about invading,don't ya.

Keep it up and YOU will be BANNED for being a NOSEY B_T_H.......lol.

You can keep repeating yourself on this ad nauseum, Steve, but anti-Zionism is the new way to be anti-Semitic while claiming that you aren't. If the pro Pali posters here were not anti-Semitic, they wouldn't be obsessing about the Jews and Israel only but would also be concerned with what is happening to innocent people in the rest of the Middle East. This is how readers can tell who is just anti-Israel and not plain anti-Semitic. I don't think that the readers are stupid enough to believe that all you pro Palis really care about the Arabs. Also, Steve, you are not running this forum. Everyone can post on any thread they want to, even those in response to your posts regardless of you addressing them or not. Phoenall has every right to post without you threatening to get him banned.

Gee that's a bit rich Hoss...considering it was he(not she) was the first to threaten me with expulsion........you need glasses.


Time for you and I to have a few beers......what's your fancy then......with a good steak of course...steve

 

[Phoenall]

MJB12741, et al,

I don't think that this line of discussion will bare fruit or become productive in any meaningful way.

I'm sure that everyone recognizes the photo of Haj Mohammed Amin al-Husseini and Adolf Hitler (alla November 1941 Summit); it is quite famous. Most people associate this photo with the WWII Pact and the agreement to the independence of Arab Palestine and post-War plans for the elimination of the Jewish National Home (assuming a Germany Victory against Allied Forces).

Haj Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, best known as The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, and the first Chairman of Arab Palestinian permanent executive organ known as the Arab Higher Committee, was also the President of the All-Palestine Government.

Yo Theliq, who is this friend of Hitler?

http://histclo.com/imagef/date/2011/12/mufti-ah41s.jpg

(COMMENT)

There is no question that the World War II Conflict was fresh in everyones mind in the post-War Period leading up to the Korean War era. And that the NAZI associations were a huge negative to have associated with anything. But that was more than seven decades ago. Former enemies are now allies of great importance and economic concern. The images of the Axis Powers a very distant memory.

What is important today, is that the Middle Eastern Nations reestablish the necessary framework and relations for the peace and security throughout the region. As I see the news today, I see that elements within the Palestinian Unity Government are calling for a widening of the conflict and appealing to the Lebanese Hezbollah group (also a terrorists) to unite with HAMAS (terrorists) in battling Israel; a violation of A/RES/2/110 - Measures to be taken against propaganda and the inciters of a new war; the planning, preparation, initiation or execution of an act of using armed force by a State against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another State --- or “crime of aggression.”

Right now, the State of Palestine and its Unity Government, have been emboldened and encouraged by the International Criminal Court (ICC) opening an inquiry, paving the way for possible war crimes investigation against Israelis. The actions of the ICC have opened a new avenue for the conflict - no longer preventing but actually widening the conflict to include the coordinated alliance between two designed terrorist organizations against a member nation.

This is what really is important. The alliance of the Grand Mufti with the NAZI Regime 70 years ago is not (interesting maybe - but not important today).

Most Respectfully,
R

All history of today is predicated on the history of the past.

Wrong,where in history do you get the mentality and murderous dealings like the Zionists

Lets see if you will answer this question. What do you mean when you spew out the term Zionist, and were did you get your information from ?

 

[Phoenall]

Yo Theliq, who is this friend of Hitler?

[URL]http://histclo.com/imagef/date/2011/12/mufti-ah41s.jpg

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[Phoenall]

Yo Theliq, who is this friend of Hitler?

http://histclo.com/imagef/date/2011/12/mufti-ah41s.jpg

I have never been an admirer of hitler in anyway unlike you Zionist Terrorists.....people on here are Not anti-semitic they are ANTI-ZIONIST TERRORIST,that foreign established Terrorist Group who have managed to con decent Jews..........As these original instigaters of Terrorism,ARE the Zionists actually Jews at all ???These foreign European Jews have No direct lineage to the Shepardic Jews at all.......no direct link to Abraham or David.......just a motley crew of Terrorist who have unsuccessfully been able to shed their Wolf.....by trying to wear sheep's clothing,their mantra of trying to tell the awful lie that Zionism equates to Judeasim.........Even Jews detest Zionists......No it is not Anti-Semitism but Anti- Zionism
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"I have never been an admirer of hitler in anyway unlike you Zionist Terrorists"

What the hell is the matter with you ??

Just ISLAMONAZI MENTALLITY

 

[Phoenall]

Hardly true as they have only been Palestinians since 1964 when Arafat told them they were, before that they were Syrians. They had the chance of freedom in 1948 and refused to take it up, preferring to go to war in the false idea that they would win. They were destroyed and the real reason for the invasion by Jordan was soon realised. The fact that their leader was one of Hitlers bed fellows shows that they were more akin to the NAZI's and FASCIST's than any other political ideology. The concept of both ideologies are firmly based on the practises of islam notably the dhimmi laws, pact of Omar and the totalitarian caliphate. If Palestine wanted independence they need only apply the terms of the UN charter and agree to abide by the many resolutions dictating negotiations on mutual borders and peace and they could be independent within a month. But with independence comes a high price, and just part of that price is border controls that are covered by International law. Along with paying for services provided and setting in place a means of supplying goods to the people. It also means they will have to give up terrorism, violence, belligerence and anti Israeli propaganda or face sanctions imposed by the UN.
I call all muslims that subscribe to the Koran and its teachings of death to the unbelievers ISLAMONAZIS because that is a Nazi concept. So until islam alters the way it teaches its followers the violence and terrorism it does then they will be ISLAMONAZI's, Just as the brainwashed muslims that deny there is a major problem with islam and its teachings will be called ISLAMONAZI BRAINWASHED STOOGES. Don't like the reality then change the fundementals.
As for ISLAMONAZI TERORISTS the only answer is a cluster bomb dropped on them and their remains left for the dogs to eat. They have no place even in an uncivilised country for the way they treat others, and those that travel from other countries to fight should face seeing their families rounded up and evicted as enemy undesireables.


Calling pro Palestinians ISLAMONAZI BRAINWASHED STOOGES is a truth that you don't like, just as Wilders film Fitna was a truth that ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDISTS did not like being shown. The truth about islam can be found in the Koran and hadiths by anyone that has a mind to look and read them in their full and proper context. Many read the Koran as any other book and start at page one, when the trick is to get an abrogated copy so you can see the decent of the false prophets decline into greater mental instability. Then you see how his mental instability forged the violent islam we see today, how muslims are taught from an early age barbarity and violence. How killing is a way of life and land theft a command from their moon god.

As I said IDIOT

Typical ISLAMONAZI reply when the reality that is islam is shown as a self evident truth, resort to personal abuse. Keep it up and you will be reported with a request you be banned.

Of course you will....Hoss is a mate,I'm sure he will take my tease in the way it is given......LOL...anyhow,a normal bodily function a bit hard (excuse the pun) for you to take Fatty-Fatty.....Too bad........I have a great sense of humour(and for the rhythm track alone,it's worth a listen).............shame you carry Zionist Guiltiness like a chip on your shoulder......the post wasn't for you but for Hoss..........so stop being Nosey invading other folks posts but then you know all about invading,don't ya.

Keep it up and YOU will be BANNED for being a NOSEY B_T_H.......lol.

You can keep repeating yourself on this ad nauseum, Steve, but anti-Zionism is the new way to be anti-Semitic while claiming that you aren't. If the pro Pali posters here were not anti-Semitic, they wouldn't be obsessing about the Jews and Israel only but would also be concerned with what is happening to innocent people in the rest of the Middle East. This is how readers can tell who is just anti-Israel and not plain anti-Semitic. I don't think that the readers are stupid enough to believe that all you pro Palis really care about the Arabs. Also, Steve, you are not running this forum. Everyone can post on any thread they want to, even those in response to your posts regardless of you addressing them or not. Phoenall has every right to post without you threatening to get him banned.

I am disgusted with some of the Arab world Hoss but that and my opinions are for another thread..steve

Typical ISLAMONAZI response always after the event, or when painted into a corner.

 

[Phoenall]

Hardly true as they have only been Palestinians since 1964 when Arafat told them they were, before that they were Syrians. They had the chance of freedom in 1948 and refused to take it up, preferring to go to war in the false idea that they would win. They were destroyed and the real reason for the invasion by Jordan was soon realised. The fact that their leader was one of Hitlers bed fellows shows that they were more akin to the NAZI's and FASCIST's than any other political ideology. The concept of both ideologies are firmly based on the practises of islam notably the dhimmi laws, pact of Omar and the totalitarian caliphate. If Palestine wanted independence they need only apply the terms of the UN charter and agree to abide by the many resolutions dictating negotiations on mutual borders and peace and they could be independent within a month. But with independence comes a high price, and just part of that price is border controls that are covered by International law. Along with paying for services provided and setting in place a means of supplying goods to the people. It also means they will have to give up terrorism, violence, belligerence and anti Israeli propaganda or face sanctions imposed by the UN.
I call all muslims that subscribe to the Koran and its teachings of death to the unbelievers ISLAMONAZIS because that is a Nazi concept. So until islam alters the way it teaches its followers the violence and terrorism it does then they will be ISLAMONAZI's, Just as the brainwashed muslims that deny there is a major problem with islam and its teachings will be called ISLAMONAZI BRAINWASHED STOOGES. Don't like the reality then change the fundementals.
As for ISLAMONAZI TERORISTS the only answer is a cluster bomb dropped on them and their remains left for the dogs to eat. They have no place even in an uncivilised country for the way they treat others, and those that travel from other countries to fight should face seeing their families rounded up and evicted as enemy undesireables.


Calling pro Palestinians ISLAMONAZI BRAINWASHED STOOGES is a truth that you don't like, just as Wilders film Fitna was a truth that ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDISTS did not like being shown. The truth about islam can be found in the Koran and hadiths by anyone that has a mind to look and read them in their full and proper context. Many read the Koran as any other book and start at page one, when the trick is to get an abrogated copy so you can see the decent of the false prophets decline into greater mental instability. Then you see how his mental instability forged the violent islam we see today, how muslims are taught from an early age barbarity and violence. How killing is a way of life and land theft a command from their moon god.

As I said IDIOT

Typical ISLAMONAZI reply when the reality that is islam is shown as a self evident truth, resort to personal abuse. Keep it up and you will be reported with a request you be banned.

Of course you will....Hoss is a mate,I'm sure he will take my tease in the way it is given......LOL...anyhow,a normal bodily function a bit hard (excuse the pun) for you to take Fatty-Fatty.....Too bad........I have a great sense of humour(and for the rhythm track alone,it's worth a listen).............shame you carry Zionist Guiltiness like a chip on your shoulder......the post wasn't for you but for Hoss..........so stop being Nosey invading other folks posts but then you know all about invading,don't ya.

Keep it up and YOU will be BANNED for being a NOSEY B_T_H.......lol.

You can keep repeating yourself on this ad nauseum, Steve, but anti-Zionism is the new way to be anti-Semitic while claiming that you aren't. If the pro Pali posters here were not anti-Semitic, they wouldn't be obsessing about the Jews and Israel only but would also be concerned with what is happening to innocent people in the rest of the Middle East. This is how readers can tell who is just anti-Israel and not plain anti-Semitic. I don't think that the readers are stupid enough to believe that all you pro Palis really care about the Arabs. Also, Steve, you are not running this forum. Everyone can post on any thread they want to, even those in response to your posts regardless of you addressing them or not. Phoenall has every right to post without you threatening to get him banned.

Gee that's a bit rich Hoss...considering it was he(not she) was the first to threaten me with expulsion........you need glasses.


Time for you and I to have a few beers......what's your fancy then......with a good steak of course...steve

Because you were in breach of the rules on here, and decided to make personal remarks. Fed by trolls makes you a troll as well, and trolls get their just deserts now.

 

[MJB12741]

MJB12741, et al,

I don't think that this line of discussion will bare fruit or become productive in any meaningful way.

I'm sure that everyone recognizes the photo of Haj Mohammed Amin al-Husseini and Adolf Hitler (alla November 1941 Summit); it is quite famous. Most people associate this photo with the WWII Pact and the agreement to the independence of Arab Palestine and post-War plans for the elimination of the Jewish National Home (assuming a Germany Victory against Allied Forces).

Haj Mohammed Amin al-Husseini, best known as The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, and the first Chairman of Arab Palestinian permanent executive organ known as the Arab Higher Committee, was also the President of the All-Palestine Government.

Yo Theliq, who is this friend of Hitler?

http://histclo.com/imagef/date/2011/12/mufti-ah41s.jpg

(COMMENT)

There is no question that the World War II Conflict was fresh in everyones mind in the post-War Period leading up to the Korean War era. And that the NAZI associations were a huge negative to have associated with anything. But that was more than seven decades ago. Former enemies are now allies of great importance and economic concern. The images of the Axis Powers a very distant memory.

What is important today, is that the Middle Eastern Nations reestablish the necessary framework and relations for the peace and security throughout the region. As I see the news today, I see that elements within the Palestinian Unity Government are calling for a widening of the conflict and appealing to the Lebanese Hezbollah group (also a terrorists) to unite with HAMAS (terrorists) in battling Israel; a violation of A/RES/2/110 - Measures to be taken against propaganda and the inciters of a new war; the planning, preparation, initiation or execution of an act of using armed force by a State against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another State --- or “crime of aggression.”

Right now, the State of Palestine and its Unity Government, have been emboldened and encouraged by the International Criminal Court (ICC) opening an inquiry, paving the way for possible war crimes investigation against Israelis. The actions of the ICC have opened a new avenue for the conflict - no longer preventing but actually widening the conflict to include the coordinated alliance between two designed terrorist organizations against a member nation.

This is what really is important. The alliance of the Grand Mufti with the NAZI Regime 70 years ago is not (interesting maybe - but not important today).

Most Respectfully,
R

All history of today is predicated on the history of the past.

Wrong,where in history do you get the mentality and murderous dealings like the Zionists

So tell us, what non murderous Arab country ever treated Palestinians with the mentality of peace offerings, a security fence & land concessions to allow the Palestinians to remain in their land? Want peace? This entire damn Zionist agenda has to go.

 

[toastman]

Yo Theliq, who is this friend of Hitler?

http://histclo.com/imagef/date/2011/12/mufti-ah41s.jpg

Who woulds thought they would end up having so much in common?

Your Grammar is appaulling today Toastie

Thanks for pointing out my typo moron

 

[MJB12741]

All these replies & we're still trying to define who are the Palestinians? Anything we can all agree on as to this question?

 

[RoccoR]

theliq, et al,

I noticed your source for the quoted information is from: "The Institute for Historical Review (IHR) is an antiSemitic organization:

"Founded in 1978 by Willis Carto, a longtime anti-Semite, the Institute for Historical Review (IHR) is a pseudo-academic organization that claims to seek "truth and accuracy in history," but whose real purpose is to promote Holocaust denial and defend Nazism. Once a prominent voice in extremist circles, the IHR has been on the decline, unable to publish its anti-Semitic Journal of Historical Review or sponsor major international Holocaust denial conferences since 2004. The organization still runs its website, where it peddles extremist books and other materials, and hosts some minor extremist gatherings."
SOURCEs:

• Combined Education Source Page --- Princeton Univ
• From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
• The Southern Poverty Law Center

Yo Theliq, who is this friend of Hitler?

http://histclo.com/imagef/date/2011/12/mufti-ah41s.jpg

I have never been an admirer of hitler in anyway unlike you Zionist Terrorists.....people on here are Not anti-semitic they are ANTI-ZIONIST TERRORIST,that foreign established Terrorist Group who have managed to con decent Jews..........As these original instigaters of Terrorism,ARE the Zionists actually Jews at all ???These foreign European Jews have No direct lineage to the Shepardic Jews at all.......no direct link to Abraham or David.......just a motley crew of Terrorist who have unsuccessfully been able to shed their Wolf.....by trying to wear sheep's clothing,their mantra of trying to tell the awful lie that Zionism equates to Judeasim.........Even Jews detest Zionists......No it is not Anti-Semitism but Anti- Zionism
www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html[/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL]']Zionism and the Third Reich [/URL]
[/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL]

(COMMENT)

Couple Points:

I'm not sure that anyone one, involved in this Discussion Group, is an "admirer" of Hitler.

Zionism defines the philosophy behind the development of a Jewish National Home (JNH) (as opposed to Judaism which describes the Jewish faith). The fundamental concept behind the JNH was embedded by the international community within the theme outlined in the 1947 Partition Plan --- the establishment of the Jewish State. Most proPalestinians hide their antisemitism behind the camouflage of antiZionism. Certainly there are common accusations:

• There is the common claim of racism; wherein the proPalestinian attempts to make a connection with "apartheid."
• There is the constant allegations of murderous war crimes; wherein the proPalestinian attempts to instigate a provocative event then blame the outcome of conflict on the Israelis.
• There is the common claim for the entire territory formerly under mandate and the absence of any legitimate claim by the Israeli.
• There is the proPalestinian cry and disdain for Jewish human rights and self-determination.
• There is the proPalestinian attempts to destroy Israeli national identity.

The essence of the Palestinian struggle is portraying themselves as long standing victims of their own historical making; attempting to roll back the timeline to an era prior to World War I. They are constantly making an issue out of their "inalienable" rights as if something should have been handed to them on a silver platter; as opposed to them working towards the development of their own national heritage. When we ask the question: Who are the Palestinians? What we see are a people that never opted to build a positive construct for their culture to develop in any positive way --- always requiring a handout and always in turmoil.

In the present, one only needs to examine what positive and constructive steps they are taking today --- to understand the direction the Palestinian has taken over time; politically, economically, and culturally, to fathom where they have been for the last century. Zero real development; as oppose to every cultural segment around them.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

MJB12741, et al,

Each nation had a population that "worked" for the culture they have today. That includes the regional nations of the Middle East.

So tell us, what non murderous Arab country ever treated Palestinians with the mentality of peace offerings, a security fence & land concessions to allow the Palestinians to remain in their land? Want peace? This entire damn Zionist agenda has to go.

(COMMENT)

What in the Zionist agenda "has to go?" What are the official tenants of "Zionism" today? (Not yesteryear!)

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[MJB12741]

MJB12741, et al,

Each nation had a population that "worked" for the culture they have today. That includes the regional nations of the Middle East.

So tell us, what non murderous Arab country ever treated Palestinians with the mentality of peace offerings, a security fence & land concessions to allow the Palestinians to remain in their land? Want peace? This entire damn Zionist agenda has to go.

(COMMENT)

What in the Zionist agenda "has to go?" What are the official tenants of "Zionism" today? (Not yesteryear!)

Most Respectfully,
R

Today's Zionist agenda of peace offerings a security fence & land concessions so Palestinians can remain in Israel to kill more Israeli's is disgusting. It is they who are mostly responsible for this ongoing conflict. Jordan's Black September sure knew how to achieve a lasting peace from Pallestinians. And has ANYONE EVER heard a single complaint about it from Palestinians or their supporters? When will those Zionists in Israel ever learn?

 

[P F Tinmore]

theliq, et al,

I noticed your source for the quoted information is from: "The Institute for Historical Review (IHR) is an antiSemitic organization:

"Founded in 1978 by Willis Carto, a longtime anti-Semite, the Institute for Historical Review (IHR) is a pseudo-academic organization that claims to seek "truth and accuracy in history," but whose real purpose is to promote Holocaust denial and defend Nazism. Once a prominent voice in extremist circles, the IHR has been on the decline, unable to publish its anti-Semitic Journal of Historical Review or sponsor major international Holocaust denial conferences since 2004. The organization still runs its website, where it peddles extremist books and other materials, and hosts some minor extremist gatherings."
SOURCEs:

• Combined Education Source Page --- Princeton Univ
• From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
• The Southern Poverty Law Center

Yo Theliq, who is this friend of Hitler?

http://histclo.com/imagef/date/2011/12/mufti-ah41s.jpg

I have never been an admirer of hitler in anyway unlike you Zionist Terrorists.....people on here are Not anti-semitic they are ANTI-ZIONIST TERRORIST,that foreign established Terrorist Group who have managed to con decent Jews..........As these original instigaters of Terrorism,ARE the Zionists actually Jews at all ???These foreign European Jews have No direct lineage to the Shepardic Jews at all.......no direct link to Abraham or David.......just a motley crew of Terrorist who have unsuccessfully been able to shed their Wolf.....by trying to wear sheep's clothing,their mantra of trying to tell the awful lie that Zionism equates to Judeasim.........Even Jews detest Zionists......No it is not Anti-Semitism but Anti- Zionism
www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html[/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL]']Zionism and the Third Reich [/URL]
[/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL][/URL]

(COMMENT)

Couple Points:

I'm not sure that anyone one, involved in this Discussion Group, is an "admirer" of Hitler.

Zionism defines the philosophy behind the development of a Jewish National Home (JNH) (as opposed to Judaism which describes the Jewish faith). The fundamental concept behind the JNH was embedded by the international community within the theme outlined in the 1947 Partition Plan --- the establishment of the Jewish State. Most proPalestinians hide their antisemitism behind the camouflage of antiZionism. Certainly there are common accusations:

• There is the common claim of racism; wherein the proPalestinian attempts to make a connection with "apartheid."
• There is the constant allegations of murderous war crimes; wherein the proPalestinian attempts to instigate a provocative event then blame the outcome of conflict on the Israelis.
• There is the common claim for the entire territory formerly under mandate and the absence of any legitimate claim by the Israeli.
• There is the proPalestinian cry and disdain for Jewish human rights and self-determination.
• There is the proPalestinian attempts to destroy Israeli national identity.

The essence of the Palestinian struggle is portraying themselves as long standing victims of their own historical making; attempting to roll back the timeline to an era prior to World War I. They are constantly making an issue out of their "inalienable" rights as if something should have been handed to them on a silver platter; as opposed to them working towards the development of their own national heritage. When we ask the question: Who are the Palestinians? What we see are a people that never opted to build a positive construct for their culture to develop in any positive way --- always requiring a handout and always in turmoil.

In the present, one only needs to examine what positive and constructive steps they are taking today --- to understand the direction the Palestinian has taken over time; politically, economically, and culturally, to fathom where they have been for the last century. Zero real development; as oppose to every cultural segment around them.

Most Respectfully,
R

Nice post of Israel's talking points.

Good boy.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Somehow --- I don't believe you meant that in a complementary fashion.

Nice post of Israel's talking points.

Good boy.

(COMMENT --- The Context)

It is an alternative view that must be understood in its given context; with the opposite intention or designed --- likely to provoke or encourage in a threat to the peace, or promote an act of aggression. Clearly different than the policy of the Unity Government (or HAMAS specifically) to further hostilities.

• The Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) element often focuses on the Oslo Area "C" settlements describing them as a "colonial entity" and attempts to imply the supposedly virtuous US imperial project are false assumptions and lies.
• The Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) prefers to refers to the occupation as "Palestine" [(“from the river to the sea”) or (simply referring to "the 67 year occupation")].
• The Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) defends the right of the Palestinian people to self-defense and resistance, including armed resistance --- in regards to the Palestine (from the river to the sea) and the occupied territory (all the territory formerly under mandate and occupied for 67 years). They present that view with the implication that the attacks on Israeli sovereignty are really domestic attacks on Palestinian Territory.
• The Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) implies that HAMAS is the largest of the resistance groups in the greater occupied Palestine with the full support of the Palestinian people.
• The Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) want to shift the offensive from a more contained “Israeli-Palestinian conflict” --- to --- an "Arab (greater) - Zionist (smaller) conflict." They want to expand the conflict such that it is "all Arabs" against "subset of Jews."
• The Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) rejects all “peace process” or “political solutions.” The HoAP trivialize the dispute resolution process by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements or other peaceful means of their choice --- to that of --- riddle, or puzzles. They suggest games requires a “solution,” but "colonization and occupation" requires "decolonization and liberation." This is an offshoot in the denial of the Partition Plan and the idea that the Jews represent a foreign invaders.

The HoAP do not just suggest that it is not enough to condemn Israeli and the US for war crimes; but that there is accountability by arrest and trial of all war criminals. And that all HoAP are absolved from war crimes.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Somehow --- I don't believe you meant that in a complementary fashion.

Nice post of Israel's talking points.

Good boy.

(COMMENT --- The Context)

It is an alternative view that must be understood in its given context; with the opposite intention or designed --- likely to provoke or encourage in a threat to the peace, or promote an act of aggression. Clearly different than the policy of the Unity Government (or HAMAS specifically) to further hostilities.

• The Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) element often focuses on the Oslo Area "C" settlements describing them as a "colonial entity" and attempts to imply the supposedly virtuous US imperial project are false assumptions and lies.
• The Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) prefers to refers to the occupation as "Palestine" [(“from the river to the sea”) or (simply referring to "the 67 year occupation")].
• The Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) defends the right of the Palestinian people to self-defense and resistance, including armed resistance --- in regards to the Palestine (from the river to the sea) and the occupied territory (all the territory formerly under mandate and occupied for 67 years). They present that view with the implication that the attacks on Israeli sovereignty are really domestic attacks on Palestinian Territory.
• The Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) implies that HAMAS is the largest of the resistance groups in the greater occupied Palestine with the full support of the Palestinian people.
• The Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) want to shift the offensive from a more contained “Israeli-Palestinian conflict” --- to --- an "Arab (greater) - Zionist (smaller) conflict." They want to expand the conflict such that it is "all Arabs" against "subset of Jews."
• The Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) rejects all “peace process” or “political solutions.” The HoAP trivialize the dispute resolution process by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements or other peaceful means of their choice --- to that of --- riddle, or puzzles. They suggest games requires a “solution,” but "colonization and occupation" requires "decolonization and liberation." This is an offshoot in the denial of the Partition Plan and the idea that the Jews represent a foreign invaders.

The HoAP do not just suggest that it is not enough to condemn Israeli and the US for war crimes; but that there is accountability by arrest and trial of all war criminals. And that all HoAP are absolved from war crimes.

Most Respectfully,
R

You call that hostile but you do no show where any of that is not true.