Who Are The Palestinians " III "

[Hollie]

Islam means submission your entire existence is consumed by the existence of Jews.

The pallys have this handicap of an emotional, sociological and politico-religious attachment to Jews that drives their thoughts and actions in every part of every day of their miserable lives.

They will gladly destroy their lives in the pursuit of their Jew obsession.

Palestinian are pawns in the Ramon Airport fiasco - opinion

Just as Palestinians have been threatened and criticized for taking higher-paying jobs in settlements, so too Palestinians are being threatened if they fly out of Ramon Airport.

www.jpost.com

Last month, Israel agreed to ease the crowded border crossing between the West Bank and Jordan by opening Eilat’s Ramon Airport to Palestinians.

But instead of welcoming the change intended to ease the lives of Palestinians, both Jordan and the Palestinian Authority have come out against the (mutually agreed upon) plan because it involves “normalization” with Israel. Once again we see that not only are the Palestinian leaders more concerned with optics than the well-being of their own people, but Jordan is too.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC: Self-Determination.
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Any attempt to conceal and justify the application of "terrorism" as a means of supporting any hostile act of coercion or intimidation is just another means of aiding and abetting criminal political activity.

‘Complicity in, including incitement, aiding and abetting, or authorization of an act of bribery is an act of terrorist support.

(COMMENT)

Your claim that it is "legal to fight off an occupation" is oversimplified, and more often incorrect - than it is correct.

Again, you have to put it in perspective:

Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) who commit an offense that is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, are liable to prosecution, incarceration, or simple imprisonment, provided the duration of such internment or imprisonment is proportionate to the offense committed.

The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949 may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offenses which have caused the death of one or more persons.

Attempts to cover or conceal the criminal act by attempting to justify terrorism are merely political manipulation of the true intention of the Customary Law. a subterfuge.

Yeah, they're still going to tear down terrorist houses, even if it makes you cry.

(COMMENT)
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Yes, I agree that our friend "Toddsterpatriot." This (in the broader thumbnail view) is just another means of imposing a monetary fine, penalty, or method of enforcement. It is Criminal forfeiture is an action taken against the property of someone accused of a crime. It is NOT unique to Israel. It is used by a significant number of countries all across Europe, the Middle East and North Africa; as well as by many authoritarian regimes.

The HoAP use this argument in an attempt to confuse and justify the application of such activity, -- whether political, economic, military, or otherwise. The HoAP intentionally distance these accusations from the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (CCPR).

As a matter of irony -- While the HoAP are often seen attempting to use international Customary and International Humanitarian Law (IHL) to unconditionally support the HoAP systematic program of regime conflict to weaken and challenge Israeli safety and security, the facts are that commentary such as that used to suggest that the attempts to overturn Article 42 (Hague Convention 1907) are legal, is -- in itself, in conflict with the CCPR.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC: Self-Determination.
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: Any attempt to conceal and justify the application of "terrorism" as a means of supporting any hostile act of coercion or intimidation is just another means of aiding and abetting criminal political activity.

‘Complicity in, including incitement, aiding and abetting, or authorization of an act of bribery is an act of terrorist support.

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(COMMENT)

Your claim that it is "legal to fight off an occupation" is oversimplified, and more often incorrect - than it is correct.

Again, you have to put it in perspective:

Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) who commit an offense that is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power, are liable to prosecution, incarceration, or simple imprisonment, provided the duration of such internment or imprisonment is proportionate to the offense committed.

The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War. Geneva, 12 August 1949 may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offenses which have caused the death of one or more persons.

Attempts to cover or conceal the criminal act by attempting to justify terrorism are merely political manipulation of the true intention of the Customary Law. a subterfuge.


(COMMENT)
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Yes, I agree that our friend "Toddsterpatriot." This (in the broader thumbnail view) is just another means of imposing a monetary fine, penalty, or method of enforcement. It is Criminal forfeiture is an action taken against the property of someone accused of a crime. It is NOT unique to Israel. It is used by a significant number of countries all across Europe, the Middle East and North Africa; as well as by many authoritarian regimes.

The HoAP use this argument in an attempt to confuse and justify the application of such activity, -- whether political, economic, military, or otherwise. The HoAP intentionally distance these accusations from the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (CCPR).

As a matter of irony -- While the HoAP are often seen attempting to use international Customary and International Humanitarian Law (IHL) to unconditionally support the HoAP systematic program of regime conflict to weaken and challenge Israeli safety and security, the facts are that commentary such as that used to suggest that the attempts to overturn Article 42 (Hague Convention 1907) are legal, is -- in itself, in conflict with the CCPR.

Most Respectfully,
R

Israel throws out the terrorist label like rice at a wedding.

What criteria is used to justify that name calling?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Link?

Why do you post here when you know so little?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Israel throws out the terrorist label like rice at a wedding.

What criteria is used to justify that name calling?

Lots of terrorist weddings in the muslim world.

 

[Hollie]

Why do you post here when you know so little?

No link.

Why do you post here when you can’t support your cut and paste YouTube videos?

 

[Hollie]

Israel throws out the terrorist label like rice at a wedding.

What criteria is used to justify that name calling?

Technical Difficulties

Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations​

Date Designated	Name
December 1, 2021	Segunda Marquetalia
December 1, 2021	Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia – People’s Army (FARC-EP)
March 11, 2021	ISIS-DRC
March 11, 2021	ISIS-Mozambique
January 14, 2021	Harakat Sawa’d Misr (HASM)
January 10, 2020	Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq (AAH)
April 15, 2019	Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)
September 6, 2018	Jama’at Nusrat al-Islam wal-Muslimin (JNIM)
July 11, 2018	al-Ashtar Brigades (AAB)
May 23, 2018	ISIS-Greater Sahara
February 28, 2018	ISIS-West Africa
February 28, 2018	ISIS-Philippines
February 28, 2018	ISIS-Bangladesh
August 17, 2017	Hizbul Mujahideen (HM)
July 1, 2016	Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent
May 20, 2016	Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant’s Branch in Libya (ISIL-Libya)
January 14, 2016	Islamic State’s Khorasan Province (ISIS-K)
September 30, 2015	Jaysh Rijal al-Tariq al Naqshabandi (JRTN)
May 15, 2014	al-Nusrah Front
April 10, 2014	ISIL Sinai Province (formerly Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis)
January 13, 2014	Ansar al-Shari’a in Benghazi
January 13, 2014	Ansar al-Shari’a in Darnah
January 13, 2014	Ansar al-Shari’a in Tunisia
December 19, 2013	al-Mulathamun Battalion (AMB)
November 14, 2013	Ansaru
November 14, 2013	Boko Haram
March 22, 2013	Ansar al-Dine (AAD)
September 19, 2012	Haqqani Network (HQN)
May 30, 2012	Abdallah Azzam Brigades (AAB)
March 13, 2012	Jemaah Anshorut Tauhid (JAT)
September 19, 2011	Indian Mujahedeen (IM)
May 23, 2011	Army of Islam (AOI)
November 4, 2010	Jaysh al-Adl (formerly Jundallah)
September 1, 2010	Tehrik-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP)
August 6, 2010	Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami (HUJI)
January 19, 2010	al-Qa’ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)
July 2, 2009	Kata’ib Hizballah (KH)
May 18, 2009	Revolutionary Struggle (RS)
March 18, 2008	al-Shabaab
March 5, 2008	Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami/Bangladesh (HUJI-B)
June 17, 2005	Islamic Jihad Union (IJU)
December 17, 2004	Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (formerly al-Qa’ida in Iraq)
July 13, 2004	Continuity Irish Republican Army (CIRA)
March 22, 2004	Ansar al-Islam (AAI)
January 30, 2003	Lashkar i Jhangvi (LJ)
October 23, 2002	Jemaah Islamiya (JI)
August 9, 2002	Communist Party of the Philippines/New People’s Army (CPP/NPA)
March 27, 2002	al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)
March 27, 2002	Asbat al-Ansar (AAA)
March 27, 2002	Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (AAMB)
December 26, 2001	Lashkar-e Tayyiba (LeT)
December 26, 2001	Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM)
May 16, 2001	Real Irish Republican Army (RIRA)
September 25, 2000	Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
October 8, 1999	al-Qa’ida (AQ)
October 8, 1997	Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
October 8, 1997	HAMAS
October 8, 1997	Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)
October 8, 1997	Hizballah
October 8, 1997	Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK, aka Kongra-Gel)
October 8, 1997	Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
October 8, 1997	National Liberation Army (ELN)
October 8, 1997	Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
October 8, 1997	Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
October 8, 1997	Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
October 8, 1997	PFLP-General Command (PFLP-GC)
October 8, 1997	Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)
October 8, 1997	Shining Path (SL)

Golly, gee. There does seem to be an unusual connection between the politico-religious ideology of islamism and assignment of the Islamic terrorist organization label.

Any idea why?

 

[MartyNYC]

That will make the kids feel better when Israel bulldozes their house.

Hamas bulldozes houses—You protest in Gaza? Hamas forcibly expels residents from their homes in Rafah

 

[P F Tinmore]

Technical Difficulties

Designated Foreign Terrorist Organizations​

Date Designated	Name
December 1, 2021	Segunda Marquetalia
December 1, 2021	Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia – People’s Army (FARC-EP)
March 11, 2021	ISIS-DRC
March 11, 2021	ISIS-Mozambique
January 14, 2021	Harakat Sawa’d Misr (HASM)
January 10, 2020	Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq (AAH)
April 15, 2019	Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC)
September 6, 2018	Jama’at Nusrat al-Islam wal-Muslimin (JNIM)
July 11, 2018	al-Ashtar Brigades (AAB)
May 23, 2018	ISIS-Greater Sahara
February 28, 2018	ISIS-West Africa
February 28, 2018	ISIS-Philippines
February 28, 2018	ISIS-Bangladesh
August 17, 2017	Hizbul Mujahideen (HM)
July 1, 2016	Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent
May 20, 2016	Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant’s Branch in Libya (ISIL-Libya)
January 14, 2016	Islamic State’s Khorasan Province (ISIS-K)
September 30, 2015	Jaysh Rijal al-Tariq al Naqshabandi (JRTN)
May 15, 2014	al-Nusrah Front
April 10, 2014	ISIL Sinai Province (formerly Ansar Bayt al-Maqdis)
January 13, 2014	Ansar al-Shari’a in Benghazi
January 13, 2014	Ansar al-Shari’a in Darnah
January 13, 2014	Ansar al-Shari’a in Tunisia
December 19, 2013	al-Mulathamun Battalion (AMB)
November 14, 2013	Ansaru
November 14, 2013	Boko Haram
March 22, 2013	Ansar al-Dine (AAD)
September 19, 2012	Haqqani Network (HQN)
May 30, 2012	Abdallah Azzam Brigades (AAB)
March 13, 2012	Jemaah Anshorut Tauhid (JAT)
September 19, 2011	Indian Mujahedeen (IM)
May 23, 2011	Army of Islam (AOI)
November 4, 2010	Jaysh al-Adl (formerly Jundallah)
September 1, 2010	Tehrik-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP)
August 6, 2010	Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami (HUJI)
January 19, 2010	al-Qa’ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)
July 2, 2009	Kata’ib Hizballah (KH)
May 18, 2009	Revolutionary Struggle (RS)
March 18, 2008	al-Shabaab
March 5, 2008	Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami/Bangladesh (HUJI-B)
June 17, 2005	Islamic Jihad Union (IJU)
December 17, 2004	Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (formerly al-Qa’ida in Iraq)
July 13, 2004	Continuity Irish Republican Army (CIRA)
March 22, 2004	Ansar al-Islam (AAI)
January 30, 2003	Lashkar i Jhangvi (LJ)
October 23, 2002	Jemaah Islamiya (JI)
August 9, 2002	Communist Party of the Philippines/New People’s Army (CPP/NPA)
March 27, 2002	al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM)
March 27, 2002	Asbat al-Ansar (AAA)
March 27, 2002	Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade (AAMB)
December 26, 2001	Lashkar-e Tayyiba (LeT)
December 26, 2001	Jaish-e-Mohammed (JEM)
May 16, 2001	Real Irish Republican Army (RIRA)
September 25, 2000	Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
October 8, 1999	al-Qa’ida (AQ)
October 8, 1997	Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
October 8, 1997	HAMAS
October 8, 1997	Harakat ul-Mujahidin (HUM)
October 8, 1997	Hizballah
October 8, 1997	Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK, aka Kongra-Gel)
October 8, 1997	Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
October 8, 1997	National Liberation Army (ELN)
October 8, 1997	Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
October 8, 1997	Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
October 8, 1997	Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
October 8, 1997	PFLP-General Command (PFLP-GC)
October 8, 1997	Revolutionary People’s Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)
October 8, 1997	Shining Path (SL)

Golly, gee. There does seem to be an unusual connection between the politico-religious ideology of islamism and assignment of the Islamic terrorist organization label.

Any idea why?

That wasn't the question.

 

[Hollie]

That wasn't the question.

The answer caused you hurt feelings.

 

[Hollie]

In international law, when a state is dissolved and new states are established, “the population follows the change of sovereignty in matters of nationality.”5 As a rule, therefore, citizens of the former state should automatically acquire the nationality of the successor state in which they had already been residing.

Nationality constitutes a legal bond that connects individuals with a specific territory, making them citizens of that territory. It is therefore imperative to examine the boundaries of Palestine in order to define the piece of land on which Palestinian nationality was established.

The status of Palestine and the nationality of its inhabitants were finally settled by the Treaty of Lausanne from the perspective of public international law. In a report submitted to the League of Nations, the British government pointed out: “The ratification of the Treaty of Lausanne in Aug., 1924, finally regularised the international status of Palestine.”123 And, thereafter, “Palestine could, at last, obtain a separate nationality.”124

Drawing up the framework of nationality, Article 30 of the Treaty of Lausanne stated:

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Palestine and Palestinian nationality was established by international law not by the Mandate.

Your silly “Treaty of Lausanne inventing Pal’istan” is a total hoot.

Nothing on YouTube?

 

[Hollie]

Hoo, boy.

Time for UNRWA to launch another welfare begging campaign.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The answer caused you hurt feelings.

Question was not answered.

 

[Hollie]

Question was not answered.

You didn’t cut and paste a YouTube video.

 

[Hollie]

In response to the Islamic terrorist cash for gee-had attack program, the Israeli defense forces seem to be taking a more proactive anti gee-had approach.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The answer caused you hurt feelings.

He is a delicate flower.

 

[Hollie]

He is a delicate flower.

The poor dear does embarrassing face-plants and dusts himself off while blithely proceeding on as if they never happened.

 

[Hollie]

No matter how much welfare money is thrown at the Islamic terrorist enclaves, it will never be enough for the crooks and thieves at the top of the heap of those franchises.

Why is the PA not paying its employees their full wages? | PMW Analysis

Are PA Clerks paying its employees their full wages?

palwatch.org

Why is the PA not paying its employees their full wages?​

Maurice Hirsch, Adv. | Sep 18, 2022
The Palestinian Authority is once again complaining about its alleged financial crisis. As a consequence of the alleged crisis, for months the PA has only paid its employees 70% - 80% of the salaries due to them. As usual, the PA is deflecting any responsibility for its situation and is merely blaming Israel.

This approach was summed up in a statement of PA Prime Minister Muhammad Shtayyeh following the July 31, 2022 decision of Israel’s Security Cabinet to implement Israel’s Anti-Pay-for-Slay Law that withholds tax money from the PA by the amount the PA pays in salaries to terrorists.

“The Israeli government’s decision to deduct a sum of 600 million [Israeli] shekels from the Palestinian tax money is arbitrary and illegal. He noted that this is tantamount to piracy that will add another dimension to our financial crisis, but said that this will not dissuade us from standing by our commitments towards the families of the prisoners and the Martyrs.”

[Official PA daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, Aug. 2, 2022]​

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC: Israeli Aid to the Palestinian Authority
※→ et al,

I think our friend Hollie is right on target.

No matter how much welfare money is thrown at the Islamic terrorist enclaves, it will never be enough for the crooks and thieves at the top of the heap of those franchises.

Why is the PA not paying its employees their full wages? | PMW Analysis

Are PA Clerks paying its employees their full wages?

palwatch.org

Why is the PA not paying its employees their full wages?​

Maurice Hirsch, Adv. | Sep 18, 2022
The Palestinian Authority is once again complaining about its alleged financial crisis. As a consequence of the alleged crisis, for months the PA has only paid its employees 70% - 80% of the salaries due to them. As usual, the PA is deflecting any responsibility for its situation and is merely blaming Israel.

This approach was summed up in a statement of PA Prime Minister Muhammad Shtayyeh following the July 31, 2022 decision of Israel’s Security Cabinet to implement Israel’s Anti-Pay-for-Slay Law that withholds tax money from the PA by the amount the PA pays in salaries to terrorists.

(COMMENT)

Someone has to explain to me the logic behind the exemption to:

Article 20 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (CCPR)​

1. Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.​

​

2. Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.​

If there is no special exception for the Hostile Arab Palestinians, then that alone is reason enough to cut aid; if not terminate any positive contributions to the Palestinians.

Just My Thought,

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

Article 20 International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (CCPR)​

1. Any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law.2. Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.

How does this apply to the Palestinians?