Who Are The Palestinains?

[toastman]

So are the Israeli's!

They're on the Pals reservations too; in contrast, the US government is not!

WTF are you talking about?

They're a population under occupation; they're already past the surrendering part, you dumbass!

No, because if they had surrendered, they wouldn't be shooting fireworks at Israel or trying to car bomb and bus bomb them... Japan and Germany did very well after they surrendered, and now they are a valued and trusted partner of the US. The Pals should try it. Since they suck at war anyways... Like all arab countries, btw.

How many people in Japan or Germany were kicked out of their home and replaces by US settlers?

Uhhh is the U.S bordered with Japan?
Does the U.S need more homes for its citizens ?
Is Japan holy to to the U.S??

I'm just saying, there's not really a comparison.

 

[Indeependent]

It wasn't Arab land either dipshit. Not for at least 700 years. Now you know.

Bullshit!

Here's the official land records from 1948, you disgusting dumbass!

You've got to admire so few Jews ridding their neighborhoods of so many murderers in so few decades.
If only other nations could follow suit.

 

[montelatici]

It wasn't Arab land either dipshit. Not for at least 700 years. Now you know.

Bullshit!

Here's the official land records from 1948, you disgusting dumbass!

You've got to admire so few Jews ridding their neighborhoods of so many murderers in so few decades.
If only other nations could follow suit.

Well, you may call the indigenous people murderers, but the Europeans did a far better job in the Americas. In Chile and Argentina, they eliminated nearly 100% of the indigenous people, in the U.S. we put eliminated quite a few of them and put the rest in reservation. And then the Australians they really did a job on the Aborigines.

But the Palestinians have proven to be as resilient as the blacks in South Africa and like the blacks in South Africa they have hundreds of millions of other Arabs all around them.

 

[Roudy]

It wasn't Arab land either dipshit. Not for at least 700 years. Now you know.

Bullshit!

Here's the official land records from 1948, you disgusting dumbass!

You mean after the Arabs invaded the region pre 1948, in the early 1900. That's just a map of the areas the Arabs invaded : cuckoo:

 

[Roudy]

Bullshit!

Here's the official land records from 1948, you disgusting dumbass!

You've got to admire so few Jews ridding their neighborhoods of so many murderers in so few decades.
If only other nations could follow suit.

Well, you may call the indigenous people murderers, but the Europeans did a far better job in the Americas. In Chile and Argentina, they eliminated nearly 100% of the indigenous people, in the U.S. we put eliminated quite a few of them and put the rest in reservation. And then the Australians they really did a job on the Aborigines.

But the Palestinians have proven to be as resilient as the blacks in South Africa and like the blacks in South Africa they have hundreds of millions of other Arabs all around them.

But but but my ass the land never belonged to them.

Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:

“Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”

Final territory assigned to Jewish national home in 1922:

 

[montelatici]

You've got to admire so few Jews ridding their neighborhoods of so many murderers in so few decades.
If only other nations could follow suit.

Well, you may call the indigenous people murderers, but the Europeans did a far better job in the Americas. In Chile and Argentina, they eliminated nearly 100% of the indigenous people, in the U.S. we put eliminated quite a few of them and put the rest in reservation. And then the Australians they really did a job on the Aborigines.

But the Palestinians have proven to be as resilient as the blacks in South Africa and like the blacks in South Africa they have hundreds of millions of other Arabs all around them.

But but but my ass the land never belonged to them.

Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:

“Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”

Final territory assigned to Jewish national home in 1922:

Well, the Pope gave South America to Portugal and Spain. Was it his to give? The UN gave land in the Middle East to Europeans, was it theirs to give? I think not. That's why the Palestinians aren't going away and will prove as resilient as the blacks in Rhodesia and South Africa. The Israelis better hope it goes the South African way instead of the Rhodesian way.

 

[Indeependent]

You've got to admire so few Jews ridding their neighborhoods of so many murderers in so few decades.
If only other nations could follow suit.

Well, you may call the indigenous people murderers, but the Europeans did a far better job in the Americas. In Chile and Argentina, they eliminated nearly 100% of the indigenous people, in the U.S. we put eliminated quite a few of them and put the rest in reservation. And then the Australians they really did a job on the Aborigines.

But the Palestinians have proven to be as resilient as the blacks in South Africa and like the blacks in South Africa they have hundreds of millions of other Arabs all around them.

But but but my ass the land never belonged to them.

Let's agree on one thing right now...the correct spelling is "butt".
OK!

 

[Indeependent]

Well, you may call the indigenous people murderers, but the Europeans did a far better job in the Americas. In Chile and Argentina, they eliminated nearly 100% of the indigenous people, in the U.S. we put eliminated quite a few of them and put the rest in reservation. And then the Australians they really did a job on the Aborigines.

But the Palestinians have proven to be as resilient as the blacks in South Africa and like the blacks in South Africa they have hundreds of millions of other Arabs all around them.

But but but my ass the land never belonged to them.

Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:

“Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”

Final territory assigned to Jewish national home in 1922:

Well, the Pope gave South America to Portugal and Spain. Was it his to give? The UN gave land in the Middle East to Europeans, was it theirs to give? I think not. That's why the Palestinians aren't going away and will prove as resilient as the blacks in Rhodesia and South Africa. The Israelis better hope it goes the South African way instead of the Rhodesian way.

Ah! My nearsighted friend.
Israel 2014 is intertwined with Wall Street.
That's NOT good news for the West Bank Jordanians.

If you REALLY want to get depressed about those murderers you hold so dear, check out all the brand new multi-million dollar homes in Israeli being bought up like hot cakes by Orthodox Jews.

Yep, the Lefties are so NOT the future of Israel.

 

[Roudy]

Well, you may call the indigenous people murderers, but the Europeans did a far better job in the Americas. In Chile and Argentina, they eliminated nearly 100% of the indigenous people, in the U.S. we put eliminated quite a few of them and put the rest in reservation. And then the Australians they really did a job on the Aborigines.

But the Palestinians have proven to be as resilient as the blacks in South Africa and like the blacks in South Africa they have hundreds of millions of other Arabs all around them.

But but but my ass the land never belonged to them.

Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:

“Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”

Final territory assigned to Jewish national home in 1922:

Well, the Pope gave South America to Portugal and Spain. Was it his to give? The UN gave land in the Middle East to Europeans, was it theirs to give? I think not. That's why the Palestinians aren't going away and will prove as resilient as the blacks in Rhodesia and South Africa. The Israelis better hope it goes the South African way instead of the Rhodesian way.

Ha ha ha. Of course the Mandate and the remnants of the Collapsed Ottoman Empire was under the control of the British and the French, who basically carved out all those little Muslim shitholes we see today, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Pakistan, Dubai, etc. Don't see anybody complaining about 99% of the land given to Muslims, but the ONE Jewish stste is totally unacceptable to Muslims Arabs. Well, as they say....TOUGH SHIT.

Jewish Palestine aka Israel was voted, accepted, and ratified as the location for a Jewish Homeland, UNANIMOUSLY, by the entire 51 members of the international community.

So your answer would be NO, the Arabs had no say in what happens to a conquered Ottoman Empire. The land WAS NEVER theirs. Got it? Get it? Who cares.

 

[Roudy]

But but but my ass the land never belonged to them.

Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:

“Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”

Final territory assigned to Jewish national home in 1922:

Well, the Pope gave South America to Portugal and Spain. Was it his to give? The UN gave land in the Middle East to Europeans, was it theirs to give? I think not. That's why the Palestinians aren't going away and will prove as resilient as the blacks in Rhodesia and South Africa. The Israelis better hope it goes the South African way instead of the Rhodesian way.

Ah! My nearsighted friend.
Israel 2014 is intertwined with Wall Street.
That's NOT good news for the West Bank Jordanians.

If you REALLY want to get depressed about those murderers you hold so dear, check out all the brand new multi-million dollar homes in Israeli being bought up like hot cakes by Orthodox Jews.

Yep, the Lefties are so NOT the future of Israel.

You mean things are going to get even worse for MOHOMOD Latici and his gang of a Islamist goons? Oh boy.

 

[toastman]

Well, you may call the indigenous people murderers, but the Europeans did a far better job in the Americas. In Chile and Argentina, they eliminated nearly 100% of the indigenous people, in the U.S. we put eliminated quite a few of them and put the rest in reservation. And then the Australians they really did a job on the Aborigines.

But the Palestinians have proven to be as resilient as the blacks in South Africa and like the blacks in South Africa they have hundreds of millions of other Arabs all around them.

But but but my ass the land never belonged to them.

Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:

“Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”

Final territory assigned to Jewish national home in 1922:

Well, the Pope gave South America to Portugal and Spain. Was it his to give? The UN gave land in the Middle East to Europeans, was it theirs to give? I think not. That's why the Palestinians aren't going away and will prove as resilient as the blacks in Rhodesia and South Africa. The Israelis better hope it goes the South African way instead of the Rhodesian way.

Actually, it's the Palestinians who are doing the hoping.

Remember monty, having no peace deal is WAYYYY worse for the Palestinians than the Israelis.

 

[50_RiaL]

montelatici: Israel and Jerusalem have not always belonged to the Jews. The Phoenician Caanites founded and ruled Jerusalem from about 2,500 BC to 1,000 BC when the Jews invaded and conquered the city. So the Jews ruled the city for less than 1,000 years.

50_RiaL: The Jews' hold on the city is more than double that of the Arabs, who last held it in 1071 CE. (There has been a Jewish majority in Jerusalem since before the middle of the 19th Century.)

montelatici: Canaanite Phoenician Jerusalem, Urushalim, The City Founded by Shalem, Phoenician God of Dusk

The Encyclopedia Britanica pay per view, I certainly am not going to pay money to educate you ignoramuses. But, it won't be any different than Wiki. 99% of Middle East historians will tell you the same thing, that the Palestinians are for the most part converted Christians. No one questions it except Zionutters. Even historians like this Katz guy, who is Jewish, write the same thing:

50_RiaL: 99%, eh, guy? That's quite a stretch. You're readin' the wrong historians. Harvard-trained historian Howard M. Sachar writes that from 1922-1946, 100,000 Arabs entered the country from the surrounding lands. Winston Churchill added that, "[d]espite the fact that they were never persecuted, masses of Arabs poured into the country and multiplied until the Arab population grew more than what all of world Jewry could add to the Jewish population."

montelatici: Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity, and later Islam, not Arab in origin

50_RiaL: Only a few Jews converted. The 4th Century-born Saint Jerome who spent time in the Holy Land writes about the sorry state of the Jews there. In the 5th Century CE, Synagogues and Jewish enclaves were burnt in pogroms at the instigation of Syrian Bishop Barsauma. In the 7th Century CE, shortly before the Arab Muslim invasion, a coalition of Jews within and outside the Holy Land revolted against the Byzantines. Muslim writings 'fess up to the fact that in the 7th Century CE, after Mohammad's death, Caliph Umar expelled the Jews of Khaibar in northern Arabia to -- yeah, you guessed it -- the Holy Land.

montelatici: In Palestine the "small" number of Arab invaders who had been imported by the Arabian conquerors were wiped out by disease. Thus the "myth" of the "Palestinian Arab" descending "from the Arab conquerors" appears to be factually incorrect for all but perhaps a few. Supporting Hogarth, Hitti, and Lewis, the Reverend Parkes found that
"During the first century after the Arab conquest the caliph and governors of Syria and The Land [Palestine] ruled almost entirely over Christian and Jewish subjects. Apart from the bedouin [nomads], in the earliest days the only Arabs west of the Jordan (not all of whom were themselves Muslims) were the garnisons... "

50_RiaL: Unbeknownst to you, you're makin' an argument for the Israeli side. Israel has been sayin' that the bulk of the Arabs who are now callin' themselves "Palestinians" are recent arrivals and, is also in line with what Hamas Interior Minister, Fathi Hamad said in 2012: that half of Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half Saudis.

montelatici: The "vast majority" remaining in Palestine was "native Christians," of "mixed origin ... carelessly known as Christian Arabs."

Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted

50_RiaL: Are you sayin' the cairene Arafat was Jewish?

 

[MJB12741]

Surely everyone is aware that there were no Muslims at all until after the 7th century AD. Thus all Muslim lands are stolen lands conquered by force whereby the indigenous populations were subjected to convert, leave or be killed. And all three of these scenarios took place.

montelatici: Israel and Jerusalem have not always belonged to the Jews. The Phoenician Caanites founded and ruled Jerusalem from about 2,500 BC to 1,000 BC when the Jews invaded and conquered the city. So the Jews ruled the city for less than 1,000 years.

50_RiaL: The Jews' hold on the city is more than double that of the Arabs, who last held it in 1071 CE. (There has been a Jewish majority in Jerusalem since before the middle of the 19th Century.)

montelatici: Canaanite Phoenician Jerusalem, Urushalim, The City Founded by Shalem, Phoenician God of Dusk

The Encyclopedia Britanica pay per view, I certainly am not going to pay money to educate you ignoramuses. But, it won't be any different than Wiki. 99% of Middle East historians will tell you the same thing, that the Palestinians are for the most part converted Christians. No one questions it except Zionutters. Even historians like this Katz guy, who is Jewish, write the same thing:

50_RiaL: 99%, eh, guy? That's quite a stretch. You're readin' the wrong historians. Harvard-trained historian Howard M. Sachar writes that from 1922-1946, 100,000 Arabs entered the country from the surrounding lands. Winston Churchill added that, "[d]espite the fact that they were never persecuted, masses of Arabs poured into the country and multiplied until the Arab population grew more than what all of world Jewry could add to the Jewish population."

montelatici: Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted to Christianity, and later Islam, not Arab in origin

50_RiaL: Only a few Jews converted. The 4th Century-born Saint Jerome who spent time in the Holy Land writes about the sorry state of the Jews there. In the 5th Century CE, Synagogues and Jewish enclaves were burnt in pogroms at the instigation of Syrian Bishop Barsauma. In the 7th Century CE, shortly before the Arab Muslim invasion, a coalition of Jews within and outside the Holy Land revolted against the Byzantines. Muslim writings 'fess up to the fact that in the 7th Century CE, after Mohammad's death, Caliph Umar expelled the Jews of Khaibar in northern Arabia to -- yeah, you guessed it -- the Holy Land.

montelatici: In Palestine the "small" number of Arab invaders who had been imported by the Arabian conquerors were wiped out by disease. Thus the "myth" of the "Palestinian Arab" descending "from the Arab conquerors" appears to be factually incorrect for all but perhaps a few. Supporting Hogarth, Hitti, and Lewis, the Reverend Parkes found that
"During the first century after the Arab conquest the caliph and governors of Syria and The Land [Palestine] ruled almost entirely over Christian and Jewish subjects. Apart from the bedouin [nomads], in the earliest days the only Arabs west of the Jordan (not all of whom were themselves Muslims) were the garnisons... "

50_RiaL: Unbeknownst to you, you're makin' an argument for the Israeli side. Israel has been sayin' that the bulk of the Arabs who are now callin' themselves "Palestinians" are recent arrivals and, is also in line with what Hamas Interior Minister, Fathi Hamad said in 2012: that half of Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half Saudis.

montelatici: The "vast majority" remaining in Palestine was "native Christians," of "mixed origin ... carelessly known as Christian Arabs."

Native Population almost wholly descended from Jews who had been forcibly converted

50_RiaL: Are you sayin' the cairene Arafat was Jewish?

 

[Billo_Really]

So the Babylonians, Greeks and Romans have to get together and write a document declaring the Jews the indisputable owners of the Land of Israel.
Sounds good to me.

You watch too much TV.

Actually, taking land by force has been going on without interruption for thousands of years.

Not since the end of WWII.

I think it's time you manned up and went to the Knesset and straightened things out.
And while you're at it, repartition the rest of the Middle East to where it was prior to WWI.

I think its time you manned up to the fact the rest of the world thinks you're full of shit!

The international community considers the establishment of Israeli settlements in the Israeli-occupied territories illegal under international law, but Israel maintains that they are consistent with international law because it does not agree that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the territories occupied in the 1967 Six-Day War. The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Convention have all affirmed that the Fourth Geneva Convention does apply.

Numerous UN resolutions have stated that the building and existence of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights are a violation of international law, including UN Security Council resolutions in 1979 and 1980. UN Security Council Resolution 446 refers to the Fourth Geneva Convention as the applicable international legal instrument, and calls upon Israel to desist from transferring its own population into the territories or changing their demographic makeup. The reconvened Conference of the High Contracting Parties to the Geneva Conventions has declared the settlements illegal as has the primary judicial organ of the UN, the International Court of Justice and the International Committee of the Red Cross.

The position of successive Israeli governments is that all authorized settlements are entirely legal and consistent with international law, despite Israel's armistice agreements having all being with High Contracting Parties. In practice, Israel does not accept that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies de jure, but has stated that on humanitarian issues it will govern itself de facto by its provisions, without specifying which these are. The majority of legal scholars hold the settlements to violate international law, while others have offered dissenting views supporting the Israeli position.

It's time you and all your Israeli butt-buddy kiss-asses, stop being children, grow up (and a pair) and embrace the horror, that the entire planet thinks you're fucked!

 

[Billo_Really]

You've got to admire so few Jews ridding their neighborhoods of so many murderers in so few decades.

Do you admire Hitler and his ridding of neighborhoods to?

If only other nations could follow suit.

Other nations consider the Final Solution wrong for humanity.

 

[Billo_Really]

You mean after the Arabs invaded the region pre 1948, in the early 1900. That's just a map of the areas the Arabs invaded : cuckoo:

Here's the official migration records for that period, numbnuts, so you lose again.

 

[Phoenall]

It wasn't Arab land either dipshit. Not for at least 700 years. Now you know.

Bullshit!

Here's the official land records from 1948, you disgusting dumbass!

So where are the names of the owners for those plots of land, all you have produced is a map that has been overlaid with false details. Did you read the legend in the top left corner that details just what this was.

" Prepared on the instruction of sub committee 2 of the ad hoc committee on the Palestinian question"

Where are the notes and minutes of this sub committee to go with the map explaining just what is meant by the details. This map has been shown to be the work of the ANTI SEMITIC British Government because they hated the Jews so much. Did you know that in some cases the British mass murdered more Jews that the Nazi's did.

 

[Phoenall]

Bullshit!

Here's the official land records from 1948, you disgusting dumbass!

You've got to admire so few Jews ridding their neighborhoods of so many murderers in so few decades.
If only other nations could follow suit.

Well, you may call the indigenous people murderers, but the Europeans did a far better job in the Americas. In Chile and Argentina, they eliminated nearly 100% of the indigenous people, in the U.S. we put eliminated quite a few of them and put the rest in reservation. And then the Australians they really did a job on the Aborigines.

But the Palestinians have proven to be as resilient as the blacks in South Africa and like the blacks in South Africa they have hundreds of millions of other Arabs all around them.

Deflecting again and trying to railroad the topic away from ISLAMIC EXCESSES AHND VIOLENCE. Even with odds of 20 to 1 the cowards cant beat Israel

 

[Phoenall]

Well, you may call the indigenous people murderers, but the Europeans did a far better job in the Americas. In Chile and Argentina, they eliminated nearly 100% of the indigenous people, in the U.S. we put eliminated quite a few of them and put the rest in reservation. And then the Australians they really did a job on the Aborigines.

But the Palestinians have proven to be as resilient as the blacks in South Africa and like the blacks in South Africa they have hundreds of millions of other Arabs all around them.

But but but my ass the land never belonged to them.

Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:

“Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”

Final territory assigned to Jewish national home in 1922:

Well, the Pope gave South America to Portugal and Spain. Was it his to give? The UN gave land in the Middle East to Europeans, was it theirs to give? I think not. That's why the Palestinians aren't going away and will prove as resilient as the blacks in Rhodesia and South Africa. The Israelis better hope it goes the South African way instead of the Rhodesian way.

Was it arab muslim to steal, I KNOW FOR A FACT IT WAS NOT. It was League of Nations land singed over to them in a treaty by the Ottoman Empire after WW1 in reparation for joining the war on the side of Germany. I note you say nothing about the LoN/UN giving Palestinian land to Saudi thieves in Syria and Jordan. Nor about giving Indian land to muslims and creating the islamic nations of Pakistan and Bangladesh. How many Islamic nations have been formed on land stolen from the indigenous peoples in your short lifetime, as I know of at least 4 in mine.

 

[Phoenall]

So the Babylonians, Greeks and Romans have to get together and write a document declaring the Jews the indisputable owners of the Land of Israel.
Sounds good to me.

You watch too much TV.

Actually, taking land by force has been going on without interruption for thousands of years.

Not since the end of WWII.

I think it's time you manned up and went to the Knesset and straightened things out.
And while you're at it, repartition the rest of the Middle East to where it was prior to WWI.

I think its time you manned up to the fact the rest of the world thinks you're full of shit!

The international community considers the establishment of Israeli settlements in the Israeli-occupied territories illegal under international law, but Israel maintains that they are consistent with international law because it does not agree that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the territories occupied in the 1967 Six-Day War. The United Nations Security Council, the United Nations General Assembly, the International Committee of the Red Cross, the International Court of Justice and the High Contracting Parties to the Convention have all affirmed that the Fourth Geneva Convention does apply.

Numerous UN resolutions have stated that the building and existence of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights are a violation of international law, including UN Security Council resolutions in 1979 and 1980. UN Security Council Resolution 446 refers to the Fourth Geneva Convention as the applicable international legal instrument, and calls upon Israel to desist from transferring its own population into the territories or changing their demographic makeup. The reconvened Conference of the High Contracting Parties to the Geneva Conventions has declared the settlements illegal as has the primary judicial organ of the UN, the International Court of Justice and the International Committee of the Red Cross.

The position of successive Israeli governments is that all authorized settlements are entirely legal and consistent with international law, despite Israel's armistice agreements having all being with High Contracting Parties. In practice, Israel does not accept that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies de jure, but has stated that on humanitarian issues it will govern itself de facto by its provisions, without specifying which these are. The majority of legal scholars hold the settlements to violate international law, while others have offered dissenting views supporting the Israeli position.

It's time you and all your Israeli butt-buddy kiss-asses, stop being children, grow up (and a pair) and embrace the horror, that the entire planet thinks you're fucked!

So what about Pakistan, Bangladesh, Darfur, Somalia, Ethiopia, Yugoslavia to name but a few ISLAMONAZI land thefts from violence and terrorist force.

So once again you are denying the Jews the right of return

Also the Palestinians signed away the settlement areas in Oslo and as Abbas stated only last week Oslo is still in existence.