Who are the Israelis?

[RoccoR]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
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That is in the 1949 UN Armistice agreements.

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That is deliberate deception and misinformation.

None of the 1949 Armistice Agreements redistributes andy territory at all.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Thank you Mr. Irrelevant.

Refuting your silly claims is never irrelevant.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The agreements signed by Jews?
The agreements not signed by a single Palestinian?
Yeah, those were awesome!

Do you mean the agreements that mentioned Palestine many times but did not mention a place called Israel?
That mentioned Palestine's international borders but mentioned no borders for an Israel.
Called land Palestine but called no land Israel.

Indeed, awesome!

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
SUBTOPIC: Propaganda Rhetoric
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Your BS Israeli propaganda is failing you.

The allied powers claimed no sovereignty. So who then?

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Well, it sure wasn't the Arab Palestinians.

By February 1948, Independence and self-Governance had yet to be determined.

25 February 1948 LEGAL MEANING OF THE “TERMINATION OF THE MANDATE”

1. Palestine is today a legal entity but it is not a sovereign state. Palestine is a territory administered under mandate by His Majesty (in respect of the United Kingdom), who is entirely responsible both for its internal administration and for its foreign affairs.

2. After the 15th May, 1948, Palestine will continue to be a legal entity but it will still not be a sovereign state because it will not be immediately self-governing. The authority responsible for its administration will, however, have changed.

3. Where the sovereignty of Palestine lies at the present time in a disputed and perhaps academic legal question about which writers have expressed a number of different conclusions. Where the sovereignty of Palestine will lie after the 15th May, 1948; is perhaps also a question on which different views will be held but so far as His Majesty’s Government are aware, it is a question which it is unnecessary to answer in connection with any practical issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
SUBTOPIC: Propaganda Rhetoric
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

(COMMENT)

That is deliberate deception and misinformation.

None of the 1949 Armistice Agreements redistributes andy territory at all.

Most Respectfully,
R

None of the 1949 Armistice Agreements redistributes any territory at all.

Indeed that is correct.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Well, it sure wasn't the Arab Palestinians.

You are ducking the question. Who then?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Do you mean the agreements that mentioned Palestine many times but did not mention a place called Israel?
That mentioned Palestine's international borders but mentioned no borders for an Israel.
Called land Palestine but called no land Israel.

Indeed, awesome!

Do you mean the agreements that mentioned Palestine many times but did not mention a place called Israel?

The agreements that were signed by Jews.
The agreements that weren't signed by Palestinians.
The agreements that did mention Israel.
The agreements that I posted several times before.
The agreements that refuted your claims.

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[P F Tinmore]

Do you mean the agreements that mentioned Palestine many times but did not mention a place called Israel?

The agreements that were signed by Jews.
The agreements that weren't signed by Palestinians.
The agreements that did mention Israel.
The agreements that I posted several times before.
The agreements that refuted your claims.

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The cover letter said Israel. The agreement did not.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The cover letter said Israel. The agreement did not.

The agreement signed by Israelis? Weird.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The cover letter said Israel. The agreement did not.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who are the Israelis?
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No, the question was answered... You just don't like the answer.

You are ducking the question. Who then?

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The independence was not immediately assigned, except for the Emirate of Trans-Jordan.

◈ Between 1922 and 1948, despite being invited several times to participate in self-governing institutions, the British High Commissioner exercised civil administration in Palestine without the benefit of Arab Palestinian participation. The staff was completely British. The Jewish Agency, as required by the Mandate, was "recognized as a public body for the purpose of advising and cooperating with the British Administration."

The Arab Palestinians flatly refused to adopt a political posture in their best interest. The Jewish worked in a cooperative effect and the Arab Palestinians stayed on the outside.

You can decide which was the more productive...

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

The staff was completely British. The Jewish Agency, as required by the Mandate, was "recognized as a public body for the purpose of advising and cooperating with the British Administration."

And none of them had sovereignty.

So who then?

 

[rylah]

And none of them had sovereignty.

So who then?

The Jewish nation of course,
no other nation has a title to sovereignty.

 

[rylah]

It is misleading to use the term the Arabs.

It is misleading to say otherwise.

From the camel's mouth:

 

[rylah]

Do you mean the agreements that mentioned Palestine many times but did not mention a place called Israel?
That mentioned Palestine's international borders but mentioned no borders for an Israel.
Called land Palestine but called no land Israel.

Indeed, awesome!

Potato potatoe

All documents using the title 'Palestine',
including every 'Palestinian' passport,
have formal initials of 'Eretz Israel'.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Jewish nation of course,
no other nation has a title to sovereignty.

Israeli shill version,

Do you have something from a credible source?

 

[rylah]

Israeli shill version,

Do you have something from a credible source?

What do you refer to as credible source?

We hear you refer to 'international law'
but for years refused to show a single binding law
mentioning anyone else in reference to national sovereignty.

 

[rylah]

International law is a treaty,
between sovereign states.

This is US law -

"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for re-constituting their national home"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lodge–Fish_Resolution

The Anglo American Treaty of 1924

Introduction to the 1924 Anglo American Convention on the Mandate for Palestine The United States was neither one of the Principal Alli...

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[P F Tinmore]

What do you refer to as credible source?

We hear you refer to 'international law'
but for years refused to show a single binding law
mentioning anyone else in reference to national sovereignty.

It is too complicated for you.

 

[P F Tinmore]

International law is a treaty,
between sovereign states.

This is US law -

"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for re-constituting their national home"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lodge–Fish_Resolution

The Anglo American Treaty of 1924

Introduction to the 1924 Anglo American Convention on the Mandate for Palestine The United States was neither one of the Principal Alli...

israelinternationallaw.blogspot.com

"Article 7

"The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.
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The Mandate was not about land. It was about Palestinian citizenship.