Who are the Israelis?

[toastman]

Considering Palestinians CONSTANTLY lie about many false events, I don’t believe them. They are full of shit

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[danielpalos]

We have a Who are the Palestinians thread, so just to be fair...

Golda Meir

Israelites who live in the State of Israel?

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[ESay]

What was the cause of these particular demonstrations? I have read that it was the Arabs who attacked the Jews first with videos being translated in social media.

 

[rylah]

Yes, this is exactly what you and your ilk should believe,
especially if that makes you feel smarter about yourselves.

Also don't you think it's funny how the 'Syrian Girl',
is trying to demonize Israelis by comparing them to...Syrians?

.

 

[rylah]

The Arab cowards, after weeks of hunting Orthodox Jews in gangs to the sounds of music on TikTok, burning the entire neighborhood in the middle of a Pogrom while posting it online,
didn't expect to be paid a debt?




Let me prepare my surprised face,
and at the same time suggest that your friends,
are foolishly misreading the Israeli society right now,
neither the Orthodox nor reliance on police are as in any previous Intifada.

 

[rylah]

What was the cause of these particular demonstrations? I have read that it was the Arabs who attacked the Jews first with videos being translated in social media.

Yes, the beginning of Ramadan and Israel's Memorial Day, which were on the same day,
were marked by the usual fireworks in several Arab towns and the usual tension at the Temple Mount during the memorial ceremony. What was unusual were direct firework shooting at Jewish homes from various directions in the neighborhood of Silwan that night, and the police, unlike other years, shut down the Al-Aqsa mouazine that was intentionally amplified to shout over the minute the memorial ceremony began at the Western Wall, aired live nationwide.

Then they started going around in gangs hunting Orthodox Jews, first slaps and run away, then following around people in gangs,then people riding bikes, stabbing, posting it as music videos allover TikTok.

And last week it was literally a reminder of a Pogrom,
they've posted how they hunt down and lynch Jews on the streets,
with the police doing nothing and a burning neighborhood in the background...




With neither the courts nor the police showing any correctness to competently address the situation, and at large many argue show nothing but criminal neglect, paired by affirmative action, which only fuels it worse. All while the Shabak and mainstream media seem to focus mainly on any reaction from the Jewish population that they now deem remotely extreme.

 

[P F Tinmore]

What was the cause of these particular demonstrations? I have read that it was the Arabs who attacked the Jews first with videos being translated in social media.

Save Sheikh Jarrah: Palestinians have a right to remain on their land

Are these demands, after 65 years of de facto ownership of their homes, really that difficult for Israel to recognise - or does this situation merely confirm Israel as a settler-colonial, racist state? East Jerusalem is illegally occupied under international law. Israel is therefore committing a war crime by evicting Palestinians from their homes and moving its own settler population into them.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-palestine-save-sheikh-jarrah-right-remain-land

 

[rylah]

What was the cause of these particular demonstrations? I have read that it was the Arabs who attacked the Jews first with videos being translated in social media.

Save Sheikh Jarrah: Palestinians have a right to remain on their land

Are these demands, after 65 years of de facto ownership of their homes, really that difficult for Israel to recognise - or does this situation merely confirm Israel as a settler-colonial, racist state? East Jerusalem is illegally occupied under international law. Israel is therefore committing a war crime by evicting Palestinians from their homes and moving its own settler population into them.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-palestine-save-sheikh-jarrah-right-remain-land

Apparently, you're not even pretending to discuss anything.

The Va'ad Sfaradi is the legal owner of these lots. The documents recently transferred to PA by the Jordanian govt, and in their rush to attack Jews, foolishly made public, actually further prove beyond any doubt that the Arab frauds now claiming the property never owned it,
only rented for a short period, after it was taken from Jews by the Jordanian occupation
some 60 years ago.

But why ruin a good ol' blood-libel with facts,
when your "innocent" intention is to only incite another pogrom, right?

ירדן העבירה לרש"פ מסמכי בעלות על נכסים בשכונת שיח' ג'ראח בירושלים

<p>שר החוץ הירדני יערוך ביקור פתע ברמאללה • העברת המסמכים נועדה לסייע למאבקם של תושבי השכונה בעיריית ירושלים. "ירדן מגנה את ניסיונותיה הבלתי אנושיים של ישראל לגירוש הפלסטינים מבתיהם" בית המשפט קבע כי המשפחות המתגוררות במקום, להתפנות</p>

www.20il.co.il

 

[P F Tinmore]

What was the cause of these particular demonstrations? I have read that it was the Arabs who attacked the Jews first with videos being translated in social media.

Save Sheikh Jarrah: Palestinians have a right to remain on their land

Are these demands, after 65 years of de facto ownership of their homes, really that difficult for Israel to recognise - or does this situation merely confirm Israel as a settler-colonial, racist state? East Jerusalem is illegally occupied under international law. Israel is therefore committing a war crime by evicting Palestinians from their homes and moving its own settler population into them.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-palestine-save-sheikh-jarrah-right-remain-land

Apparently, you're not even pretending to discuss anything.

The Va'ad Sfaradi is the legal owner of these lots. The documents recently transferred to PA by the Jordanian govt, and in their rush to attack Jews, foolishly made public, actually further prove beyond any doubt that the Arab frauds now claiming the property only rented it
after it was taken from Jews under the Jordanian occupation some 60 years ago:

ירדן העבירה לרש"פ מסמכי בעלות על נכסים בשכונת שיח' ג'ראח בירושלים

<p>שר החוץ הירדני יערוך ביקור פתע ברמאללה • העברת המסמכים נועדה לסייע למאבקם של תושבי השכונה בעיריית ירושלים. "ירדן מגנה את ניסיונותיה הבלתי אנושיים של ישראל לגירוש הפלסטינים מבתיהם" בית המשפט קבע כי המשפחות המתגוררות במקום, להתפנות</p>

www.20il.co.il

OK, so give the Jews back the land they had before 1948 and give back the land that the Palestinians had before 1948.

 

[rylah]

What was the cause of these particular demonstrations? I have read that it was the Arabs who attacked the Jews first with videos being translated in social media.

Save Sheikh Jarrah: Palestinians have a right to remain on their land

Are these demands, after 65 years of de facto ownership of their homes, really that difficult for Israel to recognise - or does this situation merely confirm Israel as a settler-colonial, racist state? East Jerusalem is illegally occupied under international law. Israel is therefore committing a war crime by evicting Palestinians from their homes and moving its own settler population into them.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-palestine-save-sheikh-jarrah-right-remain-land

Apparently, you're not even pretending to discuss anything.

The Va'ad Sfaradi is the legal owner of these lots. The documents recently transferred to PA by the Jordanian govt, and in their rush to attack Jews, foolishly made public, actually further prove beyond any doubt that the Arab frauds now claiming the property only rented it
after it was taken from Jews under the Jordanian occupation some 60 years ago:

ירדן העבירה לרש"פ מסמכי בעלות על נכסים בשכונת שיח' ג'ראח בירושלים

<p>שר החוץ הירדני יערוך ביקור פתע ברמאללה • העברת המסמכים נועדה לסייע למאבקם של תושבי השכונה בעיריית ירושלים. "ירדן מגנה את ניסיונותיה הבלתי אנושיים של ישראל לגירוש הפלסטינים מבתיהם" בית המשפט קבע כי המשפחות המתגוררות במקום, להתפנות</p>

www.20il.co.il

OK, so give the Jews back the land they had before 1948 and give back the land that the Palestinians had before 1948.

That IS land Jews owned before 1948.

But the main problem you need decency to admit,
is both in using the "Palestinian" to the exclusion of any Jews,
while at the same time assuming mere presence of Jews justifies violence.

In fact most of so called "the Palestinians" were but foreign feudal labor tenants,
never actually owned any property - be careful with what you ask for.

And doubt not for a second, that what you intend for Israel,
will roll directly at your own doorway, though thousands of miles away .

 

[P F Tinmore]

In fact most of so called "the Palestinians" were but foreign feudal labor tenants,
never actually owned any property

You are viewing eastern land rights through a western lens.

 

[rylah]

In fact most of so called "the Palestinians" were but foreign feudal labor tenants,
never actually owned any property

You are viewing eastern land rights through a western lens.

I'm actually viewing Ottoman land registration, and you're the lying westerner here trying to impose on everyone else new "rights" you invent every week to fit the narrative.

But nice try though, haven't heard of the newest "eastern lens"
excuse for the Arab theft of simultaneously 3 continents,
while enslaving 10 times more Africans than the entire
northern hemisphere combined...:

Elder: Black History Month: Why don't they teach about the Arab-Muslim slave trade in Africa?

As for America’s annual Black History Month, actor Morgan Freeman spoke for many during this 2005 exchange with CBS’s Mike Wallace on “60 Minutes”:

www.standard.net

Q. Is this the "eastern lens" that justifies demand for exclusive
Arab domination over the entire Middle east?

 

[ESay]

With neither the courts nor the police showing any correctness to competently address the situation, and at large many argue show nothing but criminal neglect, paired by affirmative action, which only fuels it worse. All while the Shabak and mainstream media seem to focus mainly on any reaction from the Jewish population that they now deem remotely extreme

And the situation will be only deteriorating in the future in this regard. The Arabs in Palestine radicalize. In the West Bank elections is scheduled and Hamas is said to gain the majority there.

You said that the police and courts were ineffective in the last days. What are you proposals how to solve these issues?

 

[P F Tinmore]

In fact most of so called "the Palestinians" were but foreign feudal labor tenants,
never actually owned any property

You are viewing eastern land rights through a western lens.

I'm actually viewing Ottoman land registration, and you're the lying westerner here trying to impose on everyone else new "rights" you invent every week to fit the narrative.

But nice try though, haven't heard of the newest "eastern lens"
excuse for the Arab theft of simultaneously 3 continents,
while enslaving 10 times more Africans than the entire
northern hemisphere combined...:

Elder: Black History Month: Why don't they teach about the Arab-Muslim slave trade in Africa?

As for America’s annual Black History Month, actor Morgan Freeman spoke for many during this 2005 exchange with CBS’s Mike Wallace on “60 Minutes”:

www.standard.net

Q. Is this the "eastern lens" that justifies demand for exclusive
Arab domination over the entire Middle east?

The term ‘Tenure’ is a matter of awareness, which is associated with understanding to the level of rights and security [1, 2]. The United Nations Centre for Human Settlements (UN-HABITAT) [3] report defines tenure as ‘the way land is held or owned by individuals and groups, or the set of relationships legally or customarily defined amongst people with respect to land’. A useful summary of the land tenure is provided by the UN-HABITAT [4], which observed that it is an issue of varying elements created to manage land right within the registry titles within the institutional states. Furthermore, securing user’s rights in land and property is a significant step to address the effective administration of end-user’s rights by the state management institutions [5]. In practical terms, the literature shows that there is an interconnected matrix of legal, social and economic factors linked with the aspects of Land Tenure Security (LTS) administration.

1.1 User’s rights in land and property Building on the categories of tenure rights that were listed by the World Resources Institute in collaboration with United Nations Development Programme [11], this article classifies user’s rights in land and property into the following:
• The right to use the resource;
• The right to profit from use of the resource;
• The right to sell one’s tenure rights to others, permanently or for a limited time;
• The right to pass down these rights to one’s successors;
• The right to protection from illegal expropriation of the resource

https://www.witpress.com/Secure/ejournals/papers/HA010311f.pdf

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

In fact most of so called "the Palestinians" were but foreign feudal labor tenants,
never actually owned any property

You are viewing eastern land rights through a western lens.

I'm actually viewing Ottoman land registration, and you're the lying westerner here trying to impose on everyone else new "rights" you invent every week to fit the narrative.

But nice try though, haven't heard of the newest "eastern lens"
excuse for the Arab theft of simultaneously 3 continents,
while enslaving 10 times more Africans than the entire
northern hemisphere combined...:

Elder: Black History Month: Why don't they teach about the Arab-Muslim slave trade in Africa?

As for America’s annual Black History Month, actor Morgan Freeman spoke for many during this 2005 exchange with CBS’s Mike Wallace on “60 Minutes”:

www.standard.net

Q. Is this the "eastern lens" that justifies demand for exclusive
Arab domination over the entire Middle east?

The term ‘Tenure’ is a matter of awareness, which is associated with understanding to the level of rights and security [1, 2]. The United Nations Centre for Human Settlements (UN-HABITAT) [3] report defines tenure as ‘the way land is held or owned by individuals and groups, or the set of relationships legally or customarily defined amongst people with respect to land’. A useful summary of the land tenure is provided by the UN-HABITAT [4], which observed that it is an issue of varying elements created to manage land right within the registry titles within the institutional states. Furthermore, securing user’s rights in land and property is a significant step to address the effective administration of end-user’s rights by the state management institutions [5]. In practical terms, the literature shows that there is an interconnected matrix of legal, social and economic factors linked with the aspects of Land Tenure Security (LTS) administration.

1.1 User’s rights in land and property Building on the categories of tenure rights that were listed by the World Resources Institute in collaboration with United Nations Development Programme [11], this article classifies user’s rights in land and property into the following:
• The right to use the resource;
• The right to profit from use of the resource;
• The right to sell one’s tenure rights to others, permanently or for a limited time;
• The right to pass down these rights to one’s successors;
• The right to protection from illegal expropriation of the resource

https://www.witpress.com/Secure/ejournals/papers/HA010311f.pdf

defines tenure as ‘the way land is held or owned by individuals and groups, or the set of relationships legally or customarily defined amongst people with respect to land’.

Jordan had tenure in the West Bank for less than 20 years.
Israel for over 50 years.

Israel wins!!!.

 

[P F Tinmore]

In fact most of so called "the Palestinians" were but foreign feudal labor tenants,
never actually owned any property

You are viewing eastern land rights through a western lens.

I'm actually viewing Ottoman land registration, and you're the lying westerner here trying to impose on everyone else new "rights" you invent every week to fit the narrative.

But nice try though, haven't heard of the newest "eastern lens"
excuse for the Arab theft of simultaneously 3 continents,
while enslaving 10 times more Africans than the entire
northern hemisphere combined...:

Elder: Black History Month: Why don't they teach about the Arab-Muslim slave trade in Africa?

As for America’s annual Black History Month, actor Morgan Freeman spoke for many during this 2005 exchange with CBS’s Mike Wallace on “60 Minutes”:

www.standard.net

Q. Is this the "eastern lens" that justifies demand for exclusive
Arab domination over the entire Middle east?

The term ‘Tenure’ is a matter of awareness, which is associated with understanding to the level of rights and security [1, 2]. The United Nations Centre for Human Settlements (UN-HABITAT) [3] report defines tenure as ‘the way land is held or owned by individuals and groups, or the set of relationships legally or customarily defined amongst people with respect to land’. A useful summary of the land tenure is provided by the UN-HABITAT [4], which observed that it is an issue of varying elements created to manage land right within the registry titles within the institutional states. Furthermore, securing user’s rights in land and property is a significant step to address the effective administration of end-user’s rights by the state management institutions [5]. In practical terms, the literature shows that there is an interconnected matrix of legal, social and economic factors linked with the aspects of Land Tenure Security (LTS) administration.

1.1 User’s rights in land and property Building on the categories of tenure rights that were listed by the World Resources Institute in collaboration with United Nations Development Programme [11], this article classifies user’s rights in land and property into the following:
• The right to use the resource;
• The right to profit from use of the resource;
• The right to sell one’s tenure rights to others, permanently or for a limited time;
• The right to pass down these rights to one’s successors;
• The right to protection from illegal expropriation of the resource

https://www.witpress.com/Secure/ejournals/papers/HA010311f.pdf

defines tenure as ‘the way land is held or owned by individuals and groups, or the set of relationships legally or customarily defined amongst people with respect to land’.

Jordan had tenure in the West Bank for less than 20 years.
Israel for over 50 years.

Israel wins!!!.

Jordan never acquired tenure. Neither did Israel.