White Punk Calls Mo'ne Davis a Slut.....

[Asclepias]

Dont really care how may racists are saying I'm the reason they are racist. I didnt know monkeys like you had the capacity to imagine things to be honest.

So you supposedly abhor racism yet don't care who your bullshit turns in that direction. So you must have a vested interest in racism, probably have figured out a hustle to make money on it...online of course, because nobody listens to a scrawny little white queer like you are in person. I been around ghetto and college-educated blacks my whole life and never once ran into the shit that comes off your keyboard, boy.

Trying to figure me out will be tough for a effeminate little white boy such as yourself. Dont pull a muscle in that simian head of yours.. Why would I care if someone uses me as an excuse to be a racist? That would actually be like caring what they think. I just dont. I'm not really sorry what I say offends you. Matter of fact I consider it to be a good thing.

 

[Asclepias]

I know it has nothing to do with white anything. Its a simple fact that fat boy is a racist.

Yes, I realize that in your opinion the kid is a racist.

I'm glad you agree the fat boy is a racist.

He may be, I do not know him however nor can I read his mind.

I'm reading his words and the context not his mind. He is definitely a racist.

I am 100% convinced that you believe that to be the case.

I'm glad we now see eye to eye.

 

[Pogo]

This guy was an idiot and its disgusting. He should and was held accountable.

Now...about how black culture and rap has millions like him who call women bitches and hos and how to treat them like worthless humans....yeah....

Remember Obamas pal Jay Z...famous rapper....songs like "I got 99 problems but a ***** aint one".

Lets start ridiculing the rappers too. I wont hold my breathe.

There are no "rappers" in this story. At all. You're pulling the same shit you did before. Red herring.

 

[Asclepias]

What I think makes it so. When you control what I think then you can tell me I'm wrong and hope to change my mind. Until then I'm just going to laugh at you.

No it doesn't.
You're speculating, and when you claim it as a fact, you erode real cases because your claims cannot be trusted.

Actually it does. Your opinion doesnt have any semblance of credibility in my world. You cant erode real cases. You seem to be under the impression I am looking for white validation. I'm not.

Has nothing to do with white anything, it's simply a matter of the difference between opinion and fact.

I know it has nothing to do with white anything. Its a simple fact that fat boy is a racist.

No -- that's what you're plugging in. If it were actually "fact" there would be something in his verbal output (since that's all we have) that would validate that view. But there isn't. That's how we know you're the one plugging it in.

There is something in his verbal output as I explained to you earlier. I didnt call her a slut...the fat boy did.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Yes, I realize that in your opinion the kid is a racist.

I'm glad you agree the fat boy is a racist.

He may be, I do not know him however nor can I read his mind.

I'm reading his words and the context not his mind. He is definitely a racist.

I am 100% convinced that you believe that to be the case.

I'm glad we now see eye to eye.

Excellent, you can now go forward realizing the existence of a difference between facts and opinions and or speculations.
This will help you a great deal.

 

[guno]

The classless punk (Joey Casselberry) gets booted from college baseball team for the comment and what does Mone Davis have to say? She asks the school to give the fat punk another chance. Love her class in the face of this unwarranted attack. If he gets reinstated it will be because of her.

How Mo ne Davis silenced the Bloomsburg baseball player who called her a slut - The Washington Post

Typical feral behavior

 

[Pogo]

NO, we do not "know" that at all. "Slut" is sexist -- not racist. You have no bridge to reach that conclusion.

Don't be surprised if it does come out later if you like, but as of now --- you got nothin'. We've all got to stop injecting "racist" every time a mosquito sneezes. You have no evidence, ergo you have no case.

"Slut" was not prefixed with the word "Black" which is what he really wanted to say. I wasn't trying to make a case. I was pointing out my observance. Until its proven otherwise he is a racist.

NO, you just made that up as a Strawman. You do not get to do that. The argument "this is what he said but only I know what he really meant" is absolute ******* bullshit as argument.

mudwhistle check this out...

Try this test --
Take this exact same story and change the names of the kids. Two names you never heard of. Exact same tweets and comments, but you know nothing about the target, and you have no pictures of anybody. All the same words.

See racism now?

There you go.

I already told you that I was not arguing. The Strawman mudwhistle made up was based on changing the definition of a word. My conclusions have more to do with the emotion displayed by the usage of the word "slut" and not any change to its meaning.

You're doing the same thing. He can't do it, and neither can you.

No its not the same thing. I didnt change any definitions. I looked at the emotional context of using the word and the fact he didnt know her. Add those 2 together and you have a racist hiding in plain sight.

Does it?

As mathematical formula:
Emotional content (slur)
plus
Entity not known
______________________

= "racism"??

Don't think so. There's your flawed premise.

I could call BullKurtz "shortbus" and post that he's dumber than a bag of hammers. And I don't know him.
Did I just do something "racist"?

Nope. He and I are (presumably) of the same race. Yet it satisfies the formula above.
Won't work. QED.

"Racism" requires a value judgment that a particular race is "inferior". Without that value judgment, there is no racism defined.

Not only do we not have any such value judgment from Casselberry --- we don't even have so much as a reference to race. His own or anyone else's.

When you're seeing a value judgment in a commentary that never even brought up the topic at all -- you're making things up. Simple as that.

 

[Asclepias]

"Slut" was not prefixed with the word "Black" which is what he really wanted to say. I wasn't trying to make a case. I was pointing out my observance. Until its proven otherwise he is a racist.

NO, you just made that up as a Strawman. You do not get to do that. The argument "this is what he said but only I know what he really meant" is absolute ******* bullshit as argument.

mudwhistle check this out...

Try this test --
Take this exact same story and change the names of the kids. Two names you never heard of. Exact same tweets and comments, but you know nothing about the target, and you have no pictures of anybody. All the same words.

See racism now?

There you go.

I already told you that I was not arguing. The Strawman mudwhistle made up was based on changing the definition of a word. My conclusions have more to do with the emotion displayed by the usage of the word "slut" and not any change to its meaning.

You're doing the same thing. He can't do it, and neither can you.

No its not the same thing. I didnt change any definitions. I looked at the emotional context of using the word and the fact he didnt know her. Add those 2 together and you have a racist hiding in plain sight.

Does it?

As mathematical formula:
Emotional content (slur)
plus
Entity not known
______________________

= "racism"??

Don't think so. There's your flawed premise.

I could call BullKurtz "shortbus" and post that he's dumber than a bag of hammers. And I don't know him.
Did I just do something "racist"?

Nope. He and I are (presumably) of the same race. Yet it satisfies the formula above.
Won't work. QED.

"Racism" requires a value judgment that a particular race is "inferior". Without that value judgment, there is no racism defined.

Not only do we not have any such value judgment from Casselberry --- we don't even have so much as a reference to race. His own or anyone else's.

When you're seeing a value judgment in a commentary that never even brought up the topic at all -- you're making things up. Simple as that.

Ahhhh....I see the error in your equation.

Emotional content regarding 13 year old Black girl
plus
from fat white guy
_______________
= Racism

The value judgement is in the claim of Mo'ne being a slut since she is Black.

 

[Pogo]

NO, you just made that up as a Strawman. You do not get to do that. The argument "this is what he said but only I know what he really meant" is absolute ******* bullshit as argument.

mudwhistle check this out...

Try this test --
Take this exact same story and change the names of the kids. Two names you never heard of. Exact same tweets and comments, but you know nothing about the target, and you have no pictures of anybody. All the same words.

See racism now?

There you go.

I already told you that I was not arguing. The Strawman mudwhistle made up was based on changing the definition of a word. My conclusions have more to do with the emotion displayed by the usage of the word "slut" and not any change to its meaning.

You're doing the same thing. He can't do it, and neither can you.

No its not the same thing. I didnt change any definitions. I looked at the emotional context of using the word and the fact he didnt know her. Add those 2 together and you have a racist hiding in plain sight.

Does it?

As mathematical formula:
Emotional content (slur)
plus
Entity not known
______________________

= "racism"??

Don't think so. There's your flawed premise.

I could call BullKurtz "shortbus" and post that he's dumber than a bag of hammers. And I don't know him.
Did I just do something "racist"?

Nope. He and I are (presumably) of the same race. Yet it satisfies the formula above.
Won't work. QED.

"Racism" requires a value judgment that a particular race is "inferior". Without that value judgment, there is no racism defined.

Not only do we not have any such value judgment from Casselberry --- we don't even have so much as a reference to race. His own or anyone else's.

When you're seeing a value judgment in a commentary that never even brought up the topic at all -- you're making things up. Simple as that.

Ahhhh....I see the error in your equation.

Emotional content regarding 13 year old Black girl
plus
from fat white guy
_______________
= Racism

The value judgement is in the claim of Mo'ne being a slut since she is Black.

I got way too wordy. Here's your flaw in your own four words:

"since she is Black".

You have no such evidence that that is a causation and not simply coincidence.
None. Zero.


And once again, "fat" is irrelevant. No doubt that's why he's at first base, but take 50 pounds off him, have them both say the same things, and nothing has changed.

Stop seeing colors in everything when nobody has brought it up.

​

 

[Asclepias]

I already told you that I was not arguing. The Strawman mudwhistle made up was based on changing the definition of a word. My conclusions have more to do with the emotion displayed by the usage of the word "slut" and not any change to its meaning.

You're doing the same thing. He can't do it, and neither can you.

No its not the same thing. I didnt change any definitions. I looked at the emotional context of using the word and the fact he didnt know her. Add those 2 together and you have a racist hiding in plain sight.

Does it?

As mathematical formula:
Emotional content (slur)
plus
Entity not known
______________________

= "racism"??

Don't think so. There's your flawed premise.

I could call BullKurtz "shortbus" and post that he's dumber than a bag of hammers. And I don't know him.
Did I just do something "racist"?

Nope. He and I are (presumably) of the same race. Yet it satisfies the formula above.
Won't work. QED.

"Racism" requires a value judgment that a particular race is "inferior". Without that value judgment, there is no racism defined.

Not only do we not have any such value judgment from Casselberry --- we don't even have so much as a reference to race. His own or anyone else's.

When you're seeing a value judgment in a commentary that never even brought up the topic at all -- you're making things up. Simple as that.

Ahhhh....I see the error in your equation.

Emotional content regarding 13 year old Black girl
plus
from fat white guy
_______________
= Racism

The value judgement is in the claim of Mo'ne being a slut since she is Black.

I got way too wordy. Here's your flaw in your own four words:

"since she is Black".

You have no such evidence that that is a causation and not simply coincidence.
None. Zero.

Of course its causation. There is no such thing as coincidence. If Mo'ne had of been white he would have never said anything.

 

[Pogo]

You're doing the same thing. He can't do it, and neither can you.

No its not the same thing. I didnt change any definitions. I looked at the emotional context of using the word and the fact he didnt know her. Add those 2 together and you have a racist hiding in plain sight.

Does it?

As mathematical formula:
Emotional content (slur)
plus
Entity not known
______________________

= "racism"??

Don't think so. There's your flawed premise.

I could call BullKurtz "shortbus" and post that he's dumber than a bag of hammers. And I don't know him.
Did I just do something "racist"?

Nope. He and I are (presumably) of the same race. Yet it satisfies the formula above.
Won't work. QED.

"Racism" requires a value judgment that a particular race is "inferior". Without that value judgment, there is no racism defined.

Not only do we not have any such value judgment from Casselberry --- we don't even have so much as a reference to race. His own or anyone else's.

When you're seeing a value judgment in a commentary that never even brought up the topic at all -- you're making things up. Simple as that.

Ahhhh....I see the error in your equation.

Emotional content regarding 13 year old Black girl
plus
from fat white guy
_______________
= Racism

The value judgement is in the claim of Mo'ne being a slut since she is Black.

I got way too wordy. Here's your flaw in your own four words:

"since she is Black".

You have no such evidence that that is a causation and not simply coincidence.
None. Zero.

Of course its causation. There is no such thing as coincidence. If Mo'ne had of been white he would have never said anything.

Speculation.
Nothing more.

And not speculation based on anything productive.

 

[Asclepias]

No its not the same thing. I didnt change any definitions. I looked at the emotional context of using the word and the fact he didnt know her. Add those 2 together and you have a racist hiding in plain sight.

Does it?

As mathematical formula:
Emotional content (slur)
plus
Entity not known
______________________

= "racism"??

Don't think so. There's your flawed premise.

I could call BullKurtz "shortbus" and post that he's dumber than a bag of hammers. And I don't know him.
Did I just do something "racist"?

Nope. He and I are (presumably) of the same race. Yet it satisfies the formula above.
Won't work. QED.

"Racism" requires a value judgment that a particular race is "inferior". Without that value judgment, there is no racism defined.

Not only do we not have any such value judgment from Casselberry --- we don't even have so much as a reference to race. His own or anyone else's.

When you're seeing a value judgment in a commentary that never even brought up the topic at all -- you're making things up. Simple as that.

Ahhhh....I see the error in your equation.

Emotional content regarding 13 year old Black girl
plus
from fat white guy
_______________
= Racism

The value judgement is in the claim of Mo'ne being a slut since she is Black.

I got way too wordy. Here's your flaw in your own four words:

"since she is Black".

You have no such evidence that that is a causation and not simply coincidence.
None. Zero.

Of course its causation. There is no such thing as coincidence. If Mo'ne had of been white he would have never said anything.

Speculation.
Nothing more.

And not speculation based on anything productive.

Its not speculation. Its awareness. My vantage point allows me to be more aware than you are.

 

[Pogo]

Does it?

As mathematical formula:
Emotional content (slur)
plus
Entity not known
______________________

= "racism"??

Don't think so. There's your flawed premise.

I could call BullKurtz "shortbus" and post that he's dumber than a bag of hammers. And I don't know him.
Did I just do something "racist"?

Nope. He and I are (presumably) of the same race. Yet it satisfies the formula above.
Won't work. QED.

"Racism" requires a value judgment that a particular race is "inferior". Without that value judgment, there is no racism defined.

Not only do we not have any such value judgment from Casselberry --- we don't even have so much as a reference to race. His own or anyone else's.

When you're seeing a value judgment in a commentary that never even brought up the topic at all -- you're making things up. Simple as that.

Ahhhh....I see the error in your equation.

Emotional content regarding 13 year old Black girl
plus
from fat white guy
_______________
= Racism

The value judgement is in the claim of Mo'ne being a slut since she is Black.

I got way too wordy. Here's your flaw in your own four words:

"since she is Black".

You have no such evidence that that is a causation and not simply coincidence.
None. Zero.

Of course its causation. There is no such thing as coincidence. If Mo'ne had of been white he would have never said anything.

Speculation.
Nothing more.

And not speculation based on anything productive.

Its not speculation. Its awareness. My vantage point allows me to be more aware than you are.

You can see words on the page that I can't ?

"Clairvoyace" again. Think somebody already noted that.
No actually I'm painfully aware of strawmen and self-delusion. I deal with it here every day. Takes many different forms but they all smell the same.

 

[Asclepias]

Ahhhh....I see the error in your equation.

Emotional content regarding 13 year old Black girl
plus
from fat white guy
_______________
= Racism

The value judgement is in the claim of Mo'ne being a slut since she is Black.

I got way too wordy. Here's your flaw in your own four words:

"since she is Black".

You have no such evidence that that is a causation and not simply coincidence.
None. Zero.

Of course its causation. There is no such thing as coincidence. If Mo'ne had of been white he would have never said anything.

Speculation.
Nothing more.

And not speculation based on anything productive.

Its not speculation. Its awareness. My vantage point allows me to be more aware than you are.

You can see words on the page that I can't ?

"Clairvoyace" again. Think somebody already noted that.

Evidently I can.
Its not the same as clairvoyance. Its an awareness one has from dealing with racists.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

I got way too wordy. Here's your flaw in your own four words:

"since she is Black".

You have no such evidence that that is a causation and not simply coincidence.
None. Zero.

Of course its causation. There is no such thing as coincidence. If Mo'ne had of been white he would have never said anything.

Speculation.
Nothing more.

And not speculation based on anything productive.

Its not speculation. Its awareness. My vantage point allows me to be more aware than you are.

You can see words on the page that I can't ?

"Clairvoyace" again. Think somebody already noted that.

Evidently I can.
Its not the same as clairvoyance. Its an awareness one has from dealing with racists.

That's fine, but you have to take people individually, and you have to take their case individually.
If you want to claim you "sense" that this person is a racist, that's fine, you have the right to base a situation on what your experiences tell you, but it's still speculation regardless the amount of personal experience.
Facts have to be proven, and obviously that's not the case so far.

Here's what I bet is really going on here. This kid is a ballplayer just like Mo'ne, and he's probably jealous of the amount of attention she's getting, so when Disney announced a movie, he probably could no longer contain himself, so he ended up stupidly blurting out his frustrations.

 

[Pogo]

I got way too wordy. Here's your flaw in your own four words:

"since she is Black".

You have no such evidence that that is a causation and not simply coincidence.
None. Zero.

Of course its causation. There is no such thing as coincidence. If Mo'ne had of been white he would have never said anything.

Speculation.
Nothing more.

And not speculation based on anything productive.

Its not speculation. Its awareness. My vantage point allows me to be more aware than you are.

You can see words on the page that I can't ?

"Clairvoyace" again. Think somebody already noted that.

Evidently I can.
Its not the same as clairvoyance. Its an awareness one has from dealing with racists.

Sorry but 'dealing with racists' means dealing with people who are outside your own head.

 

[Asclepias]

Of course its causation. There is no such thing as coincidence. If Mo'ne had of been white he would have never said anything.

Speculation.
Nothing more.

And not speculation based on anything productive.

Its not speculation. Its awareness. My vantage point allows me to be more aware than you are.

You can see words on the page that I can't ?

"Clairvoyace" again. Think somebody already noted that.

Evidently I can.
Its not the same as clairvoyance. Its an awareness one has from dealing with racists.

That's fine, but you have to take people individually, and you have to take their case individually.
If you want to claim you "sense" that this person is a racist, that's fine, you have the right to base a situation on what your experiences tell you, but it's still speculation regardless the amount of personal experience.
Facts have to be proven, and obviously that's not the case so far.

Here's what I bet is really going on here. This kid is a ballplayer just like Mo'ne, and he's probably jealous of the amount of attention she's getting, so when Disney announced a movie, he probably could no longer contain himself, so he ended up stupidly blurting out his frustrations.

I do take people individually. Thats why I have white loved ones. It's not speculation as that is the absence of evidence. I am basing this on hard evidence. I think your inability to see the evidence is what is throwing you off. I understand your position though. How can you see a fact you cant see?

That doesnt make sense. The fat boy is in college. Mo'ne is 13. She is not his peer. Why would Disney making a movie about her affect his life at all? He has no reason to be frustrated unless of course he is racist.

 

[Pogo]

Of course its causation. There is no such thing as coincidence. If Mo'ne had of been white he would have never said anything.

Speculation.
Nothing more.

And not speculation based on anything productive.

Its not speculation. Its awareness. My vantage point allows me to be more aware than you are.

You can see words on the page that I can't ?

"Clairvoyace" again. Think somebody already noted that.

Evidently I can.
Its not the same as clairvoyance. Its an awareness one has from dealing with racists.

That's fine, but you have to take people individually, and you have to take their case individually.
If you want to claim you "sense" that this person is a racist, that's fine, you have the right to base a situation on what your experiences tell you, but it's still speculation regardless the amount of personal experience.
Facts have to be proven, and obviously that's not the case so far.

Here's what I bet is really going on here. This kid is a ballplayer just like Mo'ne, and he's probably jealous of the amount of attention she's getting, so when Disney announced a movie, he probably could no longer contain himself, so he ended up stupidly blurting out his frustrations.

Exactly this. It's about attention and jealousy thereof. He made it pretty obvious.
Well he got his wish. Everybody knows his name now.

 

[Asclepias]

Of course its causation. There is no such thing as coincidence. If Mo'ne had of been white he would have never said anything.

Speculation.
Nothing more.

And not speculation based on anything productive.

Its not speculation. Its awareness. My vantage point allows me to be more aware than you are.

You can see words on the page that I can't ?

"Clairvoyace" again. Think somebody already noted that.

Evidently I can.
Its not the same as clairvoyance. Its an awareness one has from dealing with racists.

Sorry but 'dealing with racists' means dealing with people who are outside your own head.

I agree. Thats why I said its not clairvoyance. Its observation.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Speculation.
Nothing more.

And not speculation based on anything productive.

Its not speculation. Its awareness. My vantage point allows me to be more aware than you are.

You can see words on the page that I can't ?

"Clairvoyace" again. Think somebody already noted that.

Evidently I can.
Its not the same as clairvoyance. Its an awareness one has from dealing with racists.

That's fine, but you have to take people individually, and you have to take their case individually.
If you want to claim you "sense" that this person is a racist, that's fine, you have the right to base a situation on what your experiences tell you, but it's still speculation regardless the amount of personal experience.
Facts have to be proven, and obviously that's not the case so far.

Here's what I bet is really going on here. This kid is a ballplayer just like Mo'ne, and he's probably jealous of the amount of attention she's getting, so when Disney announced a movie, he probably could no longer contain himself, so he ended up stupidly blurting out his frustrations.

I do take people individually. Thats why I have white loved ones. It's not speculation as that is the absence of evidence. I am basing this on hard evidence. I think your inability to see the evidence is what is throwing you off. I understand your position though. How can you see a fact you cant see?

That doesnt make sense. The fat boy is in college. Mo'ne is 13. She is not his peer. Why would Disney making a movie about her affect his life at all? He has no reason to be frustrated unless of course he is racist.

People get frustrated for many reasons, and this guy for all I know may have been having a life of frustrations, and maybe he knows he's not good enough to have a life in baseball, and he's jealous of her stardom despite her failing to win it all at the LLWS.

I really don't know, and unless you have personal information with this case you don't either.

Regardless, the bottom line is calling her a "slut" in itself is not a racial slur.
We both know this is the case, we may look at it from different vantage points, but so far race hasn't proven to be a motivating factor.
It might end up being do, but none of us know that at this time.