Zone1 "White privilege" does not exist, it is a lie.

[horselightning]

Getting back to the thread topic, there is no such thing as "White Privilege". There is wealth privilege and political privilege in America. One could make a case for "Black Privilege" with the aggressive AA and DEI policies pushed by the government.

so true

 

[AZrailwhale]

You guys make way too much out of an off-the-cuff remark to a not-serious person. (Who calls himself "Charlemagne the God" and should be expected to be taken seriously?)



The Confederacy were worse than the Nazis, because they were STUPID!!! All they had to do was give up slavery.

The Nazis were just trying to recover what Germany had lost in the previous war.

To the Confederacy it was more than slavery. They resented losing control of the Federal Government to a bunch of shopkeepers in the North. Up until very shortly before the Civil War, the Southern States controlled the United States, it was only when immigration overcame the advantage of having three fifths of their slaves counted for representation did the majority of the states take control. The Senate and Electoral College were an effort to limit the control of the slave states. Slavery was a large issue, but it wasn't the only one.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Wow... ummmm.... I don't know where you get this shit from.

The Emancipation Proclamation wasn't issued until September 1862.

Also, you don't "quit" the Army. That's actually, you know, called "desertion," and they shot guys for that.

Not in the Civil War, there were no "duration of hostilities" enlistments. Enlistments were for specific amounts of time, some as short as ninety days.

 

[horselightning]

To the Confederacy it was more than slavery. They resented losing control of the Federal Government to a bunch of shopkeepers in the North. Up until very shortly before the Civil War, the Southern States controlled the United States, it was only when immigration overcame the advantage of having three fifths of their slaves counted for representation did the majority of the states take control. The Senate and Electoral College were an effort to limit the control of the slave states. Slavery was a large issue, but it wasn't the only one.

no it wasn't. there were lot problems trying to increase the country into more states.

 

[AZrailwhale]

no it wasn't. there were lot problems trying to increase the country into more states.

No, the power started to shift when the non-=slave states managed to force the slave states to accept that new sates would be non-slave states this began with the Missouri Compromise of 1820: "The Missouri Compromise (also known as the Compromise of 1820) was federal legislation of the United States that balanced desires of northern states to prevent the expansion of slavery in the country with those of southern states to expand it. It admitted Missouri as a slave state and Maine as a free state and declared a policy of prohibiting slavery in the remaining Louisiana Purchase lands north of the 36°30′ parallel.[1] The 16th United States Congress passed the legislation on March 3, 1820, and President James Monroe signed it on March 6, 1820.[2]"

 

[horselightning]

No, the power started to shift when the non-=slave states managed to force the slave states to accept that new sates would be non-slave states this began with the Missouri Compromise of 1820: "The Missouri Compromise (also known as the Compromise of 1820) was federal legislation of the United States that balanced desires of northern states to prevent the expansion of slavery in the country with those of southern states to expand it. It admitted Missouri as a slave state and Maine as a free state and declared a policy of prohibiting slavery in the remaining Louisiana Purchase lands north of the 36°30′ parallel.[1] The 16th United States Congress passed the legislation on March 3, 1820, and President James Monroe signed it on March 6, 1820.[2]"

but lot things were going on in states. different things. even in the new western coast states.

 

[el midgetron]

You guys make way too much out of an off-the-cuff remark to a not-serious person. (Who calls himself "Charlemagne the God" and should be expected to be taken seriously?)

Yeah, I still hear liberals soiling themselves over a private conversation where Trump made an off-the-cuff remark about how women will let (powerful men) grab them by the….

Biden’s words were meant for public consumption and they are indicative of how liberal perceive an ownership over the black community. You just don’t see a problem with his words because you agree with them.

The Confederacy were worse than the Nazis, because they were STUPID!!! All they had to do was give up slavery.

The Nazis were just trying to recover what Germany had lost in the previous war.

So… the Nazis were “smart” then? Now you are praising the Nazis to support your argument? Like above, you just don’t see a problem with the Nazis because you agree with them. Ha, I’m half joking about that, Jew hater.

FFS, the “Confederates were worse than Nazis”….

In comparison to the Confederates being “stupid”, all liberals have to do is give up running a plantation. How hard is that? Free the black community!

 

[el midgetron]

Every job I have ever had, it was another white person deciding to hire me.

Every promotion I have ever gotten was white people deciding to promote me.

Every mortgage I have ever received was white people deciding to loan me the money.

Considering you chose what jobs to apply for and what bank to use…..it sounds kind like you have spent your entire life intentionally avoiding professional relationships with POC.

 

[el midgetron]

I’m starting to feel like white privileged is real, at least from the subjective perspective of the white liberals who promote it. Peggy McIntosh’s famous essay struck me the same way. She had a very privileged upbringing and some of her Knapsack assertions carry the scent of latent racism. For these white liberals, white privileged is real because they have externalize their own experience. It’s how they understand society, and an expression of their own biases. They subjectively normalize their experience by wrongly concluding that all white people must share the same perspective.

 

[Hector12]

Expressions of hostility for Negroes has been suppressed, but the hostility remains. Blacks reinforce the hostility with their performance and behavior.

There are bosses who dislike Jews and Orientals. Most hire Jews and Orientals anyway, because Jews and Orientals nearly always perform and behave well.

Bosses who hire blacks frequently hire problems. The black person will not perform well. When he is criticized he will call the boss a racist, and complain to human relations.

 

[sparky]

Show me where my dirt poor pig farmer a** has any privilege ........~S~

 

[sparky]

Wow... ummmm.... I don't know where you get this shit from.

Was there a significant increase in desertions from the Union Army following the Emancipation Proclamation?

Answer (1 of 2): Desertion was a serious problem for both armies throughout the war and was often a result of poor morale. In the Union army, morale hit rock bottom in late 1862 and early 1863, particularly in the Army of the Potomac. This resulted from the removal from command of the popular Geo...

www.quora.com

~S~

 

[JoeB131]

To the Confederacy it was more than slavery. They resented losing control of the Federal Government to a bunch of shopkeepers in the North. Up until very shortly before the Civil War, the Southern States controlled the United States, it was only when immigration overcame the advantage of having three fifths of their slaves counted for representation did the majority of the states take control. The Senate and Electoral College were an effort to limit the control of the slave states. Slavery was a large issue, but it wasn't the only one.

Nope, it was about slavery. Period. This notion that the slave states were about anything other than preserving slavery is ridiculous. We just need to look at the quotes of Confederate leaders.

Selected Quotations from 1830-1865

Albert Gallatin Brown, U.S. Senator from Mississippi, speaking on Spt. 11, 1858, with regard to the several filibuster expeditions to Central America: "I want Cuba . . . I want Tamaulipas, Potosi, and one or two other Mexican States; and I want them all for the same reason -- for the planting and spreading of slavery."

• Richmond Enquirer, 1856: "Democratic liberty exists solely because we have slaves . . . freedom is not possible without slavery."

Lawrence Keitt, Congressman from South Carolina, in a speech to the House on January 25, 1860: "African slavery is the corner-stone of the industrial, social, and political fabric of the South; and whatever wars against it, wars against her very existence. Strike down the institution of African slavery and you reduce the South to depopulation and barbarism." Later in the same speech he said, "The anti-slavery party contend that slavery is wrong in itself, and the Government is a consolidated national democracy. We of the South contend that slavery is right, and that this is a confederate Republic of sovereign States."

• Henry M. Rector, Governor of Arkansas, March 2, 1861, Arkansas Secession Convention, p. 44: "The area of slavery must be extended correlative with its antagonism, or it will be put speedily in the 'course of ultimate extinction.'....The extension of slavery is the vital point of the whole controversy between the North and the South...Amendments to the federal constitution are urged by some as a panacea for all the ills that beset us. That instrument is amply sufficient as it now stands, for the protection of Southern rights, if it was only enforced. The South wants practical evidence of good faith from the North, not mere paper agreements and compromises. They believe slavery a sin, we do not, and there lies the trouble."

Not in the Civil War, there were no "duration of hostilities" enlistments. Enlistments were for specific amounts of time, some as short as ninety days.

Wrong. Deserters were executed.

Union Army Deserters - Soldiers Executed | Shapell Manuscript Foundation

Read the original Harper's Weekly on the executions of five foreign-born Union Army soldiers. Visit the Shapell Manuscript Foundation today.

www.shapell.org

On the afternoon of August 29, 1863, the entire Fifth Corps of the Army of the Potomac massed at Beverly Ford, Virginia, to attend the execution of five soldiers in the 118th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry convicted of desertion. All were foreign-born, and each had enlisted to receive the bounty, but had not joined the regiment. Convicted to desertion by a court-martial on August 20th, all were found guilty and sentenced to be shot. The execution, decreed General Meade, was to take place on the 16th, between 12 and 4 p.m. The men appealed, however, for more time to prepare to die: two were Roman Catholics and one a Jew, they explained, and no priests or rabbis were available. They also asked that the sentence be changed to hard labor, since they were foreigners and had been told by other soldiers that “there would be no harm done.” Meade, disinclined to mercy, merely postponed the execution until the 29th, until such time as a Rabbi Benjamin Szold could arrive from Baltimore to solace and attend George Kuhne (or Kuhn), alias G. Weik, who had enlisted July 13th, been arrested August 13th, and would die, shot for desertion, some two weeks later, at 3:45 p.m. on the 29th.

 

[JoeB131]

Expressions of hostility for Negroes has been suppressed, but the hostility remains. Blacks reinforce the hostility with their performance and behavior.

There are bosses who dislike Jews and Orientals. Most hire Jews and Orientals anyway, because Jews and Orientals nearly always perform and behave well.

Bosses who hire blacks frequently hire problems. The black person will not perform well. When he is criticized he will call the boss a racist, and complain to human relations.

Again, we get it Hector, you got paid less than the Affirmative Action hire who probably moved on to better things.

But you need to get over it, man.

 

[sparky]

Nope, it was about slavery. Period.

It was about economics Joe

slavery was little more than a political kicking post

although i do appreciate your efforts to the contrary

~S~

 

[Hector12]

Again, we get it Hector, you got paid less than the Affirmative Action hire who probably moved on to better things.

But you need to get over it, man.

;By the time he was fired I was earning more than he was.

 

[Hector12]

It was about economics Joe

slavery was little more than a political kicking post

although i do appreciate your efforts to the contrary

~S~

JoeB131 thinks the bad way Negroes were treated in the past justifies their bad behavior now.

 

[sparky]

JoeB131 thinks the bad way Negroes were treated in the past justifies their bad behavior now.

The heart of libtardism is convoluting history toward an agenda Hector

~S~

 

[JoeB131]

It was about economics Joe

slavery was little more than a political kicking post

although i do appreciate your efforts to the contrary

~S~

Guy, you are too stupid to even talk to. Don't waste my time.

JoeB131 thinks the bad way Negroes were treated in the past justifies their bad behavior now.

Actually, given the way they are STILL treated, I think they are being incredibly restrained.

;By the time he was fired I was earning more than he was.

I'm betting if you found his LinkedIn Page, he had a better career than you did. Frankly, everything you've told me about your place of employment indicates a lack of professionalism.

 

[sparky]

Guy, you are too stupid to even talk to. Don't waste my time.

I'm well read, don't waste mine Joe

~S~