Zone1 "White privilege" does not exist, it is a lie.

[el midgetron]

Democrat and their supporters like JoeB heavily rely on "re-interpreting" history to fit their agendas. When I was a kid the Democrats were an honorable American Party. But after LBJ took over, they jumped the Marxist Shark and they've been riding it to the bottom ever since.

I voted Democrat most my life. It’s really just been the past 20 years that they have gone off the deep end.

 

[Lisa558]

I voted Democrat most my life. It’s really just been the past 20 years that they have gone off the deep end.

Almost every Republican I know, myself included, was a Democrat at one point.

 

[el midgetron]

Wow, so that makes what they did in the South Okay, then, that Barbarians acted like barbarians in the Iron Age? Really?

Straw man moving the goal posts…. Nobody is saying slavery was okay. But your white centric view of the world prevents you from comprehending the bigger picture.

So, um, did they castrate the women, too?

No Joe, those were real women. Not the blokes your fraternize with.

 

[JoeB131]

Straw man moving the goal posts…. Nobody is saying slavery was okay. But your white centric view of the world prevents you from comprehending the bigger picture.

There is no "bigger picture", guy.

America committed a Crime Against Humanity, and we need to atone. "Other people did it, too" doesn't count.

 

[el midgetron]

Dude, nobody is interested in your Islamophobia.

This isn't about imaginary crimes committed in the Arab world, it's about what America has done and still owes it's black population.

Joe is a devote bigot. They only way he can rationalize his hate of white people and western civilization, is to rewrite history, deny historical facts and excuse brown people for the same historical atrocities he holds America to the fire for.

 

[el midgetron]

There is no "bigger picture", guy.

America committed a Crime Against Humanity, and we need to atone. "Other people did it, too" doesn't count.

There is always a bigger picture. The historical context outside Western civilization is relevant. You just don’t care because you don’t care about slavery or “crimes against humanity”. Your a petty liberal racist who only cares about justifying your hate.

 

[el midgetron]

America committed a Crime Against Humanity, and we need to atone. "Other people did it, too" doesn't count.

How are you atoning Joe? Voting for the party that fought a war to keep slavery? You need to atone. Stop projecting your guilt on the rest of us.

 

[el midgetron]

Joe’s confederate-flag flying Democrats hold the record for the longest filibuster. They marathoned for 60 days trying to stop the Civil Rights act.

Democrats invented the KKK. Joe needs to atone for this crap.

Fact check: Southern Dems held up 1964 Civil Rights Act, set filibuster record at 60 days

The 1964 Civil Rights Act passed only after Southern legislators launched a filibuster against it to try to prevent its passage. It lasted 60 days.

www.usatoday.com

 

[JoeB131]

Joe is a devote bigot. They only way he can rationalize his hate of white people and western civilization, is to rewrite history, deny historical facts and excuse brown people for the same historical atrocities he holds America to the fire for.

THe White Fragility is strong in this one.

There is always a bigger picture. The historical context outside Western civilization is relevant. You just don’t care because you don’t care about slavery or “crimes against humanity”. Your a petty liberal racist who only cares about justifying your hate.

No, there's no bigger picture here. What happened in the Islamic World (where they apparently had all these black slaves and there are no black people in the Middle East) is not relevant to the fact that we still have an unequal society today.

How are you atoning Joe? Voting for the party that fought a war to keep slavery? You need to atone. Stop projecting your guilt on the rest of us.

No,I vote for the party that made a black man President and a black woman vice president and supported and passed every major civil rights bill since the 1960s.

Joe’s confederate-flag flying Democrats hold the record for the longest filibuster. They marathoned for 60 days trying to stop the Civil Rights act.

Democrats invented the KKK. Joe needs to atone for this crap.

Except the Klan got kicked out of the Democratic Party in 1964, and Tricky Dick welcomed them with open arms.

 

[horselightning]

Joe’s confederate-flag flying Democrats hold the record for the longest filibuster. They marathoned for 60 days trying to stop the Civil Rights act.

Democrats invented the KKK. Joe needs to atone for this crap.

Fact check: Southern Dems held up 1964 Civil Rights Act, set filibuster record at 60 days

The 1964 Civil Rights Act passed only after Southern legislators launched a filibuster against it to try to prevent its passage. It lasted 60 days.

www.usatoday.com

and blm

 

[el midgetron]

No, there's no bigger picture here.

That right there sums up the liberal intellect. Their heads are stuck in a little box. Worlds smallest echo chamber. You are blind to the rest of the world, history and context.

What happened in the Islamic World (where they apparently had all these black slaves and there are no black people in the Middle East) is not relevant to the fact that we still have an unequal society today.

Wrong again. We have an equal society. Equality is not the same thing as equity.

Bonus points for your denial of documented history.

No,I vote for the party that made a black man President and a black woman vice president and supported and passed every major civil rights bill since the 1960s.

That is what ignorant bigots do. Make decisions based on skin color.

You can pat yourself on the back all you want for “major civil rights bills” since the 1960s but the proof in the puddling. The black community is worse off now, than they were pre-civil rights. Worse crime rates, higher incarceration rates, higher drug use, more single parent homes. No improvement in the economic gap, God job Democrat dipshits.

After 60 years of your “advocacy”, the black community has seen no progress. And rather than owning up to your failure, you blame it on the “systemic racism” boogeyman. It’s a giant fraud and it is intended to keep black people on your plantation. It’s the same business strategy as Big Pharma, developing treatments but no cures. You don’t want to help the black community, you want to keep them down. You want them to keep coming back to you. All Democrats want is a plantation of dutiful voters. Lifting black people up, isn’t going to keep them on your plantation.

Except the Klan got kicked out of the Democratic Party in 1964, and Tricky Dick welcomed them with open arms.

The Klan could have never done to the black community what the Democrats did in just 60 years. You are the reason for the state black community is in. Pat yourself on the back.

 

[JoeB131]

That right there sums up the liberal intellect. Their heads are stuck in a little box. Worlds smallest echo chamber. You are blind to the rest of the world, history and context.

How does something that happened in China or Arabia in the Middle Ages have any effect on the life of an African-American Youth in 2024? There's a reason why they don't cover it in school, and even the History Nerds have a Western-centric view.

Wrong again. We have an equal society. Equality is not the same thing as equity.

Oh, come on, guy, we do not have an equal society, nowhere close.

After 60 years of your “advocacy”, the black community has seen no progress.

Really?

 

[el midgetron]

How does something that happened in China or Arabia in the Middle Ages have any effect on the life of an African-American Youth in 2024? There's a reason why they don't cover it in school, and even the History Nerds have a Western-centric view.

Because the practice of slavery was universal. The fact of the matter is that, during the time that there was slavery in the US, there were black slaves in Africa who were owned by other blacks. Today, the African Americans are far better off than the decedents of the blacks enslaved in Africa.

It’s not a matter of justifying the practice, it’s understanding the issue in an actual historical context.

You say we need to “atone”? I have an idea, how about we fight a war to end slavery? Or right, we are the only country to sacrifice 300k men to end the practice of slavery. Guess the body count is never big enough for you blood thirsty liberals, as you still expect the decedents of those soldiers to pay more.

Disparity does not equal discrimination.

Oh, come on, guy, we do not have an equal society, nowhere close.



Really?

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And here is your dilemma. You can either claim we are an unequal “systemically racist” country. Or, tout the “significant progress” the historically-racist-Democrats have supposedly made for black people.

Considering that in 100 years the Republicans fought a war and freed blacks from their Democrat slave masters, and got them all the way to having equal protecting under the law. But then, in the next 60 years Democrats haven’t been able to even dismantle the illegal racism they claim permeates every institution in the country. Funny how liberals run the media, our colleges and Universities and most of tech and the corporate world and at a minimum 50% of government, the very institutions that are supposedly “systemically racist” and discriminatory against blacks.

 

[JoeB131]

Because the practice of slavery was universal. The fact of the matter is that, during the time that there was slavery in the US, there were black slaves in Africa who were owned by other blacks. Today, the African Americans are far better off than the decedents of the blacks enslaved in Africa.

They aren't equal in the country they live in and helped build, this is the point you don't want to get...

And here is your dilemma. You can either claim we are an unequal “systemically racist” country. Or, tout the “significant progress” the historically-racist-Democrats have supposedly made for black people.

Nope. We've made progress. We haven't solved the problems.

Considering that in 100 years the Republicans fought a war and freed blacks from their Democrat slave masters, and got them all the way to having equal protecting under the law.

Holy, shit, what brain dead home school did you learn history in?

Here's what happened. Republicans ended slavery. Then Hayes made the corrupt bargain with the South to win an election he had lost. Then Garfield, before they shot him, realized that Republicans could win elections without the black vote and never cared about it again.

Which is why from 1880 to 1955, Blacks were locked into second class citizenship.

 

[el midgetron]

They aren't equal in the country they live in and helped build, this is the point you don't want to get...

They are equal. Disparity does not equal discrimination.

Nope. We've made progress. We haven't solved the problems.

No, you are the problem. Democrats haven’t done squat for the black community in the past sixty years. The economic gains you tout were predominantly the effects of the post war economic boom and the increased industrialization. New economic and educational opportunities in the wake of the Civil Rights act also had improved the socioeconomic position of the black community.

All Democrat have done is take credit for an declining trend in poverty and then cook up “social programs” that did nothing but tax that trend to an end. The systemically-racist-Democrats have also used subsidies to implement policies that harm the black community. Welfare recipients are penalized for marriage and the rate of single parent homes has increased, with blacks being disproportionately effected.

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You are the problem.

Holy, shit, what brain dead home school did you learn history in?

Here's what happened. Republicans ended slavery. Then Hayes made the corrupt bargain with the South to win an election he had lost. Then Garfield, before they shot him, realized that Republicans could win elections without the black vote and never cared about it again.

You forgot the bit about the bitter-loser-Democrats creating the KKK and terrorizing the black community and white Republicans. You also left out the part where the Histoically-racist-Democrats passed the Jim Crow laws and used their KKK terrorist-wing to enforce them.

Which is why from 1880 to 1955, Blacks were locked into second class citizenship.

It was actual systemic racism, mostly thanks to systemically-racist-Democrat policies, like Jim Crow. Not some tin-foil-hat stuff about Garfield. Garfield was a General in the Union Army. He regarded the Civil War as. “Holy Crusade against the Slave Power”.

“Garfield not only favored the abolition of slavery, but also believed the leaders of the rebellion had forfeited their constitutional rights. He supported the confiscation of Southern plantations and even exile or execution of rebellion leaders as a means to ensure a permanent end to slavery.[75] Garfield felt Congress had an obligation "to determine what legislation is necessary to secure equal justice to all loyal persons, without regard to color."[76] He was more supportive of Lincoln when he took action against slavery.[77]”

Wiki

“The elevation of the negro race from slavery to the full rights of citizenship is the most important political change we have known since the adoption of the Constitution of 1787. NO thoughtful man can fail to appreciate its beneficent effect upon our institutions and people.”

- Garfield’s inaugural address, 1881.

Garfield’s dedication to Civil Rights predated his presidential ambitions. He fought a war to end slavery. You just make shit up.

 

[horselightning]

They are equal. Disparity does not equal discrimination.


No, you are the problem. Democrats haven’t done squat for the black community in the past sixty years. The economic gains you tout were predominantly the effects of the post war economic boom and the increased industrialization. New economic and educational opportunities in the wake of the Civil Rights act also had improved the socioeconomic position of the black community.

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All Democrat have done is take credit for an declining trend in poverty and then cook up “social programs” that did nothing but tax that trend to an end. The systemically-racist-Democrats have also used subsidies to implement policies that harm the black community. Welfare recipients are penalized for marriage and the rate of single parent homes has increased, with blacks being disproportionately effected.

Living arrangements of children by race/ethnicity, 1970-2023 | Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention

Find answers to frequently asked questions about: Living arrangements of children by race/ethnicity, 1970-2023

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You are the problem.


You forgot the bit about the bitter-loser-Democrats creating the KKK and terrorizing the black community and white Republicans. You also left out the part where the Histoically-racist-Democrats passed the Jim Crow laws and used their KKK terrorist-wing to enforce them.


It was actual systemic racism, mostly thanks to systemically-racist-Democrat policies, like Jim Crow. Not some tin-foil-hat stuff about Garfield. Garfield was a General in the Union Army. He regarded the Civil War as. “Holy Crusade against the Slave Power”.

“Garfield not only favored the abolition of slavery, but also believed the leaders of the rebellion had forfeited their constitutional rights. He supported the confiscation of Southern plantations and even exile or execution of rebellion leaders as a means to ensure a permanent end to slavery.[75] Garfield felt Congress had an obligation "to determine what legislation is necessary to secure equal justice to all loyal persons, without regard to color."[76] He was more supportive of Lincoln when he took action against slavery.[77]”

Wiki

“The elevation of the negro race from slavery to the full rights of citizenship is the most important political change we have known since the adoption of the Constitution of 1787. NO thoughtful man can fail to appreciate its beneficent effect upon our institutions and people.”

- Garfield’s inaugural address, 1881.

Garfield’s dedication to Civil Rights predated his presidential ambitions. He fought a war to end slavery. You just make shit up.

you forgot blm terrorising the caucasion community.

 

[el midgetron]

you forgot blm terrorising the caucasion community.

BLM destroyed black businesses, they killed black people. Like 30 people died during that tantrum. Now I have to listen to liberals pissing themselves because someone is a “felon”? They were murdering people because of a felon.

Murder of David Dorn - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[JoeB131]

No, you are the problem. Democrats haven’t done squat for the black community in the past sixty years.

You mean other than Civil rights, voting rights, and improving the economy?

New economic and educational opportunities in the wake of the Civil Rights act also had improved the socioeconomic position of the black community.

The poverty rate dropped from 20% to 10%. I would call that pretty successful.

You forgot the bit about the bitter-loser-Democrats creating the KKK and terrorizing the black community and white Republicans. You also left out the part where the Histoically-racist-Democrats passed the Jim Crow laws and used their KKK terrorist-wing to enforce them.

And Republicans did nothing to stop them after Grant. That was the thing. They lost interest in the issue.

It was actual systemic racism, mostly thanks to systemically-racist-Democrat policies, like Jim Crow. Not some tin-foil-hat stuff about Garfield. Garfield was a General in the Union Army. He regarded the Civil War as. “Holy Crusade against the Slave Power”.

And he ran on a platform "We don't care what you do in the South anymore". That was the point, he should have kept things going, but he didn't. The GOP realized that civil rights weren't an important issue and moved on to other things.

Garfield’s dedication to Civil Rights predated his presidential ambitions. He fought a war to end slavery. You just make shit up.

But as President, he did nothing. His campaign issue in 1880 was ending the Spoils System, not enforcing freedmen's rights. He just stopped caring.

Would it been different if he hadn't died? Who knows.

The thing is, after Grant, you really can't name a single Republican who was "Good on Civil Rights"....

 

[JoeB131]

BLM destroyed black businesses, they killed black people. Like 30 people died during that tantrum. Now I have to listen to liberals pissing themselves because someone is a “felon”? They were murdering people because of a felon.

Murder of David Dorn - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

No, they were demonstrating because of police misconduct that had gone on for decades no one was fixing and a racist in the White House was openly encouraging.

Most of the 30 deaths were either police killing demonstrators or counter-demonstrators killing demonstrators.

 

[el midgetron]

Fact: George Floyd “incited” more violence than Trump. And, Floyd is the patron saint of the political left.