Which is more feasible? Underwater colonies or colonizing another planet or moon?

The Anasazi have a legend about the Ant People who lived underground for centuries. I've always wondered what made them do it? We could be forced to hole up somewhere again.

I was gonna respond civilly in my posting, but I thought, aw, screw it, and went for the gusto. Anyway. I was thinking this exact same thing you mentioned.

It's been done.

For instance...

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And then lookit that underground city in modern-day Turkey...

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You don't really need to be that deep underground anyway.

Do a Google image search for ancient underground cities, lot's of cool ones are returned.
 
Seems like underwater colonies would be something we could do now and we wouldnt need a fucking spacesuit or clothes 2 feet think to handle Titans temperatures.

Might wanna start diggin a hole out back, TN.

 
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Seems like underwater colonies would be something we could do now and we wouldnt need a fucking spacesuit or clothes 2 feet think to handle Titans temperatures.
How about taking care of this planet?

Maybe that's the OP's point, but we just keep arguing about it.

I don't think there is a planet in the solar system we can colonize. We can't even live on our moon. I'm not crazy about living underwater either, so I'll settle for living in a space station. But, but, but we'll need a planet to request supplies.

So, how about taking care of this planet? Maybe we can get rid of some people by having them try to colonize another planet, live underwater, live underground, or live on a space station :p.
 
More feasible? Outer space. In truth, neither is really doable without concerted worldwide effort.

The question I would have about the oceans is "why"? Space has a purpose of sorts.
NASA just announced a coalition of different countries working on sending people to the moon to make more drinking water and fuel, to then go to mars. Its what got me pondering this, actually.
Neither. Hell all we have to do is implement LFTR technology and we'd have ample power that's clean and affordable to solve all of our so-called problems.
I have hears those arent feasible. Thats why there arent any reactors.
Bullshit they've already been built and proven to work. Maybe you should start doing some of your own research and quit having so much smoke blown up your ass by those who would lose if LFTRs got a real foothold and became a going concern. It's very real and their are no physics problems only scaling and some simple engineering to do to put it into wide scale use almost immediately. Hell it could could even be used to convert existing fossil fuel plants to nuclear. All you're doing is replacing the heat source. It's much more real and feasible than the idiotic solar and wind nonsense.
OK Boomer
But im sure some random dickhead on the internet knows more about it.
 
Seems like underwater colonies would be something we could do now and we wouldnt need a fucking spacesuit or clothes 2 feet think to handle Titans temperatures.

Might wanna start diggin a hole out back, TN.

Yes. Thats what got me pondering this.
 
Seems like underwater colonies would be something we could do now and we wouldnt need a fucking spacesuit or clothes 2 feet think to handle Titans temperatures.


Can you put me in touch with your... pharmacist?

You must get really good stuff.
For real. We already have underground labs and what not. I dont see how we couldnt expand on that.
 
Seems like underwater colonies would be something we could do now and we wouldnt need a fucking spacesuit or clothes 2 feet think to handle Titans temperatures.


Can you put me in touch with your... pharmacist?

You must get really good stuff.
For real. We already have underground labs and what not. I dont see how we couldnt expand on that.


Just jaggin' ya man.

I would think the ocean has more direct benefit and feasible.

We know more about space than our own oceans.


I also work on nukes....
 
Seems like underwater colonies would be something we could do now and we wouldnt need a fucking spacesuit or clothes 2 feet think to handle Titans temperatures.

Might wanna start diggin a hole out back, TN.

Yes. Thats what got me pondering this.
Someday it will come in handy having a claim up there. The technology just hasn't caught up yet. But people who know its potential as a weapons site or place for a stationary space station will use it someday.

And I predict Russia and China will give a rats ass about our friendly "agreement." We'll be fighting over it just like we've fought over every other land claimed anywhere on this planet. It's just how we roll.
 
Seems like underwater colonies would be something we could do now and we wouldnt need a fucking spacesuit or clothes 2 feet think to handle Titans temperatures.

Might wanna start diggin a hole out back, TN.

Yes. Thats what got me pondering this.
Someday it will come in handy having a claim up there. The technology just hasn't caught up yet. But people who know its potential as a weapons site or place for a stationary space station will use it someday.

And I predict Russia and China will give a rats ass about our friendly "agreement." We'll be fighting over it just like we've fought over every other land claimed anywhere on this planet. It's just how we roll.
The members of that coalition would fucking destroy russia and china
 
Seems like underwater colonies would be something we could do now and we wouldnt need a fucking spacesuit or clothes 2 feet think to handle Titans temperatures.

Might wanna start diggin a hole out back, TN.

Yes. Thats what got me pondering this.
Someday it will come in handy having a claim up there. The technology just hasn't caught up yet. But people who know its potential as a weapons site or place for a stationary space station will use it someday.

And I predict Russia and China will give a rats ass about our friendly "agreement." We'll be fighting over it just like we've fought over every other land claimed anywhere on this planet. It's just how we roll.
The members of that coalition would fucking destroy russia and china
Don't encourage it, TN. It would be nice to think if we are smart enough to use the moon as a resource, we might have evolved the animal-instincts enough to work cooperatively in space. Apparently, the frontal lobe and deep brain don't talk much. It will be the end of us if we don't quit.
But that's getting off topic.
Did you read Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea? Me neither. But the imagination is sometimes very close to right in predicting the future!
 
Seems like underwater colonies would be something we could do now and we wouldnt need a fucking spacesuit or clothes 2 feet think to handle Titans temperatures.

Might wanna start diggin a hole out back, TN.

Yes. Thats what got me pondering this.
Someday it will come in handy having a claim up there. The technology just hasn't caught up yet. But people who know its potential as a weapons site or place for a stationary space station will use it someday.

And I predict Russia and China will give a rats ass about our friendly "agreement." We'll be fighting over it just like we've fought over every other land claimed anywhere on this planet. It's just how we roll.
The members of that coalition would fucking destroy russia and china
Don't encourage it, TN. It would be nice to think if we are smart enough to use the moon as a resource, we might have evolved the animal-instincts enough to work cooperatively in space. Apparently, the frontal lobe and deep brain don't talk much. It will be the end of us if we don't quit.
But that's getting off topic.
Did you read Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea? Me neither. But the imagination is sometimes very close to right in predicting the future!
I did but i dont remember it. I was a child.
I do agree. I wish we coudl come together. We would be so much better off. Maybe we will grow up one day!
 
If we are looking for a place to settle if the earth suffers a natural disaster, under water is more feasible than another planet

Some of the bigger natural disasters result in said oceans vaporizing. Kind of hard to hide under superheated steam.
 
If we are looking for a place to settle if the earth suffers a natural disaster, under water is more feasible than another planet

Some of the bigger natural disasters result in said oceans vaporizing. Kind of hard to hide under superheated steam.

How do you superheat an ocean?
Take a lot of energy
 
If we are looking for a place to settle if the earth suffers a natural disaster, under water is more feasible than another planet

Some of the bigger natural disasters result in said oceans vaporizing. Kind of hard to hide under superheated steam.

How do you superheat an ocean?
Take a lot of energy

As the movie Armageddon pointed out " a rock the size of Texas"

Most of the science in that movie was bullshit, but that one line was pretty damn accurate.
 
If we are looking for a place to settle if the earth suffers a natural disaster, under water is more feasible than another planet

Some of the bigger natural disasters result in said oceans vaporizing. Kind of hard to hide under superheated steam.

How do you superheat an ocean?
Take a lot of energy

As the movie Armageddon pointed out " a rock the size of Texas"

Most of the science in that movie was bullshit, but that one line was pretty damn accurate.

Well, a rock the size of Texas could hit another planet with similar results
 
If we are looking for a place to settle if the earth suffers a natural disaster, under water is more feasible than another planet

Some of the bigger natural disasters result in said oceans vaporizing. Kind of hard to hide under superheated steam.

How do you superheat an ocean?
Take a lot of energy

As the movie Armageddon pointed out " a rock the size of Texas"

Most of the science in that movie was bullshit, but that one line was pretty damn accurate.

Well, a rock the size of Texas could hit another planet with similar results

But at the same (relative) time?
 
The asteroid Belt contains precious metals, possibly water locked in the form of ice. There may even be undiscovered elements that don't exist on Earth. There are resources in space that may become necessary to mine as Earth's resources are finite. Where the hell do people think all the elements came from?
Hint, Space.

The show The Expanse does a great job showing the fight for those resources between Earth and the Mars Congressional Republic and the Belters,(who can never return to Earth born in low gravity).
Takes place a few hundred years in the future.
 
Seems like underwater colonies would be something we could do now and we wouldnt need a fucking spacesuit or clothes 2 feet think to handle Titans temperatures.
It’s utterly never going to happen this century !
The fuel does not exist . It maybe future discoveries in “ nuclear fussion “ but that only takes you to close planets within several light years .
We don’t have the “will or technology “ to reach Mars let alone terraform it
 
To terraform Mars would take several decades or a few centuries
You cannot live on mars as the solar rays would wipe out your dna
 
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