When it comes to politics is traditional media on life support?

[Clipper]

The media’s job is to report the news and keep the Govt and its agencies accountable on the federal, state and local levels. Yet as we have seen the media now takes sides. Trump labeled them “Fake News”. Viewership is down and many are now getting their news from podcasts, Internet and apps like X.

With most networks working in line with the the Democratic Party and of course papers like WAPO, Boston Globe and NYT the narrative is highly biased. Meanwhile Fox and NYP lean conservative or toward the GOP. Although Fox will have Democrats and their opinions on there like those of Juan Williams, Jessica Tarlov and Harold Ford Jr. I do not see the same level on MSNBC, ABC, CBS and CNN for example.

As such, younger people will just tune them out IMO.

Can traditional media survive? Probably but they need to again start reporting the news and not make it a narrative aka news entertainment and shill for one side.

Agree or Disagree?

Cable News Fact Sheet

In 2022, both prime-time and daytime cable news audiences increased for Fox News but decreased for CNN, MSNBC and Newsmax.

www.pewresearch.org

You should have left CNN out considering they helped Trump win, especially Erin Burnett. I hope she enjoys the Trump tax cut that she's counting on.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Seems foxnews is quite popular with your ilk.

I suspect they'll be doing gangbusters during the upcoming Trump Regime.

Do you disagree?

They seem to be the outlier but they do have Democrats on frequently can CNN and MSNBC say the same?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Probably but not for the reason you think.

Actually, what happens is that the MSM engages in too much "both side-ism"< where they've spent the last 8 years sane-washing Trump.

Who?

 

[HikerGuy83]

Do you want to change the business structure of foxnews, newsmax and aon?

Answer the question in the OP.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You should have left CNN out considering they helped Trump win, especially Erin Burnett. I hope she enjoys the Trump tax cut that she's counting on.

How? I do Not watch CNN. What did they do?

 

[HikerGuy83]

They seem to be the outlier but they do have Democrats on frequently can CNN and MSNBC say the same?

No.

I hope someone on the View farts and it ignites. They would all be incinerated and the collective IQ of the country would go up 5 points.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Do you want to change the business structure of foxnews, newsmax and aon?

I addressed this point in the last paragraph of the OP. Did you miss it?

 

[Clipper]

How? I do Not watch CNN. What did they do?

Burnett continually had guests on who trashed Harris with no facts to back it up. She also described Guiliani's predicament which he brought on himself as "sad". Sad? Who forced him to do what he did? Nobody.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Burnett continually had guests on who trashed Harris with no facts to back it up. She also described Guiliani's predicament which he brought on himself as "sad". Sad? Who forced him to do what he did? Nobody.

What guests? Are there links please?

 

[JoeB131]

They seem to be the outlier but they do have Democrats on frequently can CNN and MSNBC say the same?

Actually, you can. They have conservatives on those station all the time. And actual conservatives, not fake ones like Faux News.

That said... the real problem with the Corporate Media is that they are owned by big corporations, which is why you saw them sane-washing Trump as much as you did.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Actually, you can. They have conservatives on those station all the time. And actual conservatives, not fake ones like Faux News.

That said... the real problem with the Corporate Media is that they are owned by big corporations, which is why you saw them sane-washing Trump as much as you did.

WTF is wrong with you!?

You’re always looking for a fight. Take a Midol and STFU.

Your opinion is meaningless. You have no idea what an “actual conservative” is Here is the thing…remember that…I am smarter than you. So get lost.

 

[BluesLegend]

They have lost ALL credibility so other than something to mock they serve no real purpose.

 

[JoeB131]

WTF is wrong with you!?

You’re always looking for a fight. Take a Midol and STFU.

Your opinion is meaningless. You have no idea what an “actual conservative” is Here is the thing…remember that…I am smarter than you. So get lost.

Oooh, hit a soft spot, did I?

Trump isn't a "conservative" and neither are members of their cult.

Instead we have "family values" types excusing fucking a porn star, national security types cheering for Russian victory, and law and order types cheering for a felon.

So enjoy the koolaid...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Oooh, hit a soft spot, did I?

Trump isn't a "conservative" and neither are members of their cult.

Instead we have "family values" types excusing fucking a porn star, national security types cheering for Russian victory, and law and order types cheering for a felon.

So enjoy the koolaid...

My point is I want news not news entertainment. You don’t get to decide who is or isn’t a conservative. I asked You why you’re always looking for a fight. Way to answer the question. That is a nerve. I am Tired of dealing with weak men. Youre case in point. Converse in good faith or stay out of it

 

[whitehall]

The mainstream media lied to us about Biden's mental health for years and they rigged phony polls to make it look like Harris would win. Hard core lefties believe the lies because it's what they want to hear but it seems the majority of Americans are smarter than that.

 

[justoffal]

The media’s job is to report the news and keep the Govt and its agencies accountable on the federal, state and local levels. Yet as we have seen the media now takes sides. Trump labeled them “Fake News”. Viewership is down and many are now getting their news from podcasts, Internet and apps like X.

With most networks working in line with the the Democratic Party and of course papers like WAPO, Boston Globe and NYT the narrative is highly biased. Meanwhile Fox and NYP lean conservative or toward the GOP. Although Fox will have Democrats and their opinions on there like those of Juan Williams, Jessica Tarlov and Harold Ford Jr. I do not see the same level on MSNBC, ABC, CBS and CNN for example.

As such, younger people will just tune them out IMO.

Can traditional media survive? Probably but they need to again start reporting the news and not make it a narrative aka news entertainment and shill for one side.

Agree or Disagree?

Cable News Fact Sheet

In 2022, both prime-time and daytime cable news audiences increased for Fox News but decreased for CNN, MSNBC and Newsmax.

www.pewresearch.org

Somebody pulled the plug on the respirator a few years ago.

 

[JoeB131]

My point is I want news not news entertainment.

Wow, I would agree with your first sentence, but I think that train left the station a long time ago. The Movie Network was prophetic. Howard Beale seems relatively sedate compared to Carlson or Maddow.

You see, back in the day, it was expected that the networks would run their News Divisions at a loss. It was the job of Beverly Hillbillies to sell corn flakes, the News was there to keep people informed as a public service. If you look at what has happened in the last 40 years, they spend less on reporters and more on personalities. Why spend 10 million hiring 100 correspondents bringing us the news when you can spend $10 on a talking head who brings in the ratings.

Which brings us to the disease that is Donald Trump. In 2016, they gave Trump air time because he was entertaining, screaming like a fucking maniac about Mexican rapists. Why give Jeb Bush talking about Common Core any time, that shit is boring. We got to sell those corn flakes. And that follow that up with five talking heads arguing over whether or not Mexicans are all rapists.

You don’t get to decide who is or isn’t a conservative.

Sure I do. I voted Republican from 1980 until 2008. I campaigned for Reagan in College. Then I realized the GOP got hijacked by the Religious Zealots, the Gun fetishists, and the Libertarian Children. There were also things that went on in my personal life that changed my views on a lot of issues, but I won't go into that.

The fact is, Republicans today despise McCain, Romney, George W. Bush, and George H. Bush. The only guy they still have a somewhat favorable view of is Reagan, and only then because they distort what Reagan actually did. Shit, he gave amnesty to 3 million illegal aliens!!! That would never fly today. He put moderates on SCOTUS.

I asked You why you’re always looking for a fight. Way to answer the question. That is a nerve. I am Tired of dealing with weak men. Youre case in point. Converse in good faith or stay out of it

Guy, I would call you the biggest troll on this board. Your avatar is a literal Troll.

I don't say anything on here that I don't sincerely believe. I wonder if you can say the same.

 

[hadit]

The media’s job is to report the news and keep the Govt and its agencies accountable on the federal, state and local levels. Yet as we have seen the media now takes sides. Trump labeled them “Fake News”. Viewership is down and many are now getting their news from podcasts, Internet and apps like X.

With most networks working in line with the the Democratic Party and of course papers like WAPO, Boston Globe and NYT the narrative is highly biased. Meanwhile Fox and NYP lean conservative or toward the GOP. Although Fox will have Democrats and their opinions on there like those of Juan Williams, Jessica Tarlov and Harold Ford Jr. I do not see the same level on MSNBC, ABC, CBS and CNN for example.

As such, younger people will just tune them out IMO.

Can traditional media survive? Probably but they need to again start reporting the news and not make it a narrative aka news entertainment and shill for one side.

Agree or Disagree?

Cable News Fact Sheet

In 2022, both prime-time and daytime cable news audiences increased for Fox News but decreased for CNN, MSNBC and Newsmax.

www.pewresearch.org

They cannot regain credibility as long as "news" is packaged as entertainment and talking heads on TV try to make themselves part of that packaging.

 

[hadit]

Actually, you can. They have conservatives on those station all the time. And actual conservatives, not fake ones like Faux News.

That said... the real problem with the Corporate Media is that they are owned by big corporations, which is why you saw them sane-washing Trump as much as you did.

That's ludicrous given that his coverage was far and away negative. Cackles had much more positive spin.

 

[Marener]

They cannot regain credibility as long as "news" is packaged as entertainment and talking heads on TV try to make themselves part of that packaging.

People do not choose their media source based on credibility anymore.

They choose media that tells them what they want to hear.

Media that has adjusted to this reality has seen enormous success. Media that hasn’t adjusted is suffering.