Granny
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Hmmmm - no. I think you've lost the debate, SJofT.
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Hmmmm - no. I think you've lost the debate, SJofT.
Sorry bout that,
Hmmmm - no. I think you've lost the debate, SJofT.
1. Oh really based on what?
2. You just look at the small reality of this, stay out of truckers ways, and everythings okekiefokie.
3. Thats the case, most of the time, but in your limited world, you can't get past the fact that there are some *evil truckers* on the road, doing *murder* with *Semi Rigs*.
4. Check back with me when you can grasp this, and *checkmate* on you to Granny!
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
Sorry bout that,
Hmmmm - no. I think you've lost the debate, SJofT.
1. Oh really based on what?
2. You just look at the small reality of this, stay out of truckers ways, and everythings okekiefokie.
3. Thats the case, most of the time, but in your limited world, you can't get past the fact that there are some *evil truckers* on the road, doing *murder* with *Semi Rigs*.
4. Check back with me when you can grasp this, and *checkmate* on you to Granny!
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
C'mon, man. You just don't like truckers, you're afraid of big rigs and you like to argue false statements too much. I'm sorry if you had a bad experience with a trucker but you need to get over it and move on.
The reality should be that all drivers should drive safely no matter what they're driving. The reality is that too many drivers don't drive safely, never use their mirrors - they just have tunnel vision, they're willing to take risks to get around any obstacle that stands in the way of their progress. My reality is that defensive driving and common courtesy toward other drivers go a long way toward safer roads.
I completely realize that there are bad truckers - no question about it - but I also think they are in the minority. It's up to every driver to access the situation they're in and try to avoid making the situation worse. Accidents happen sometimes. Truckers do not get on the road with intent to murder anybody. However, you're proposed "self-defense" of pulling the trigger of a loaded gun to shoot the trucker is not only stupid, but if you actually hit and killed the trucker, it would be you who acted with intent to kill.
Sorry bout that,
Sorry bout that,
1. Oh really based on what?
2. You just look at the small reality of this, stay out of truckers ways, and everythings okekiefokie.
3. Thats the case, most of the time, but in your limited world, you can't get past the fact that there are some *evil truckers* on the road, doing *murder* with *Semi Rigs*.
4. Check back with me when you can grasp this, and *checkmate* on you to Granny!
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
C'mon, man. You just don't like truckers, you're afraid of big rigs and you like to argue false statements too much. I'm sorry if you had a bad experience with a trucker but you need to get over it and move on.
The reality should be that ALL drivers should drive safely no matter what they're driving. The reality is that too many drivers don't drive safely, never use their mirrors - they just have tunnel vision, they're willing to take risks to get around any obstacle that stands in the way of their progress. My reality is that defensive driving and common courtesy toward other drivers go a long way toward safer roads.
I completely realize that there are bad truckers - no question about it - but I also think they are in the minority. It's up to EVERY driver to access the situation they're in and try to avoid making the situation worse. Accidents happen sometimes. Truckers do not get on the road with intent to murder anybody. However, you're proposed "self-defense" of pulling the trigger of a loaded gun to shoot the trucker is not only stupid, but if you actually hit and killed the trucker, it would be you who acted with intent to kill.
1. I'm in fear, and I denie that 'I don't like truckers", I know and have known lots of truckers, and have been friend with them, and my cousins a trucker, *fuel*.????
So was my now retired cousin.
2. *FEAR*??? I have driven and have no problem with the heavey traffic in Manila.
I'm glad you have no problems driving in Manila. How do you fare with driving in, say, Houston or Dallas?
3. I don't think I have much fear at all behind a wheel or otherwise.
4. But, I suppose I have fear somewhere, but I just haven't found what it is yet? * I will let you know when I find out!
Maybe you just have a serious case of road rage.
5. To you there's no real problem here, its all fine, just stay in your lane, and everything will work out as planned.
6. So then you say, "I realize" there are *bad truckers*, and there's "no question about it", now we are getting somewhere, then quickly switch to "its all good, truckers, ie even *bad truckers* have to decide what to do when trouble arises, like its all within the mind of *all* truckers, to solve this problem, which its not.
See above - I said "all drivers" not just truck drivers.
7. *Evil truckers* need to be dealt with, not pacified, they need to be identified and taken off the road, revoke them any right to drive anything but a bicycle.
That happens.
8. Its really the only way to solve this and be fair at the same time.
I notice you didn't comment on your idea of dealing with truckers. Why not?
How about we do this: every trucker, without exception, should simultaneously park their rigs 24/7 for about 3-4 days and there are NO trucks delivering anything whatsoever on any road, anywhere. Damn, drivers would be so much safer not having to deal with the bastards ... just blissfully rolling along. Hell, man, you could throw your gun in the glove compartment - no need to use it for those 3-4 days.
Maybe some trucker responding to this thread could tell you what would really happen.
3. Granny ol gal, I do appreciate your efforts in this thread you're a heck of an ol gal, but this thread isn't about how *ALL* drivers need improvement.
Problem is more all the amateur drivers out there who have a tenth of the training, supervision, oversight and responsibility.Sorry bout that,
1. I drive in Dallas all the time.
2. When I need something there, which is often enough.
3. Granny ol gal, I do appreciate your efforts in this thread you're a heck of an ol gal, but this thread isn't about how *ALL* drivers need improvement.
4. I started this thread to show that some, *evil truckers* do stuff to harm and even kill other innocent drivers.
5. Now sure, you think that its a problem you can easyly blanket over everyone, I don't agree, in my opinion, there is a section of truckers who really drive aggresively, and they dont care if you get ran over and killed or not.
6. Day in Day out, innocent people get killed by *evil truckers*, when they dont have to be let loose on our roadways.
7. Like I said, its way too important to not do something, and computers and cameras has to be a first step.
8. It should be made, *LAW*.
9. To require *ALL* data of what happens should be relayed back to a centralized police force, that monitors this, which could be funded by the insurance companies.
10. Public safty should be everyone concern.
11. Now if a law is passed that allows people like myslef to open fire on truckers, for aggresive driving, I would be for it, it would keep the *evil truckers* inline, which would benefit all the innocent car drivers.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
You think killing the driver of a truck at 80k lbs going down the highway at 70mph in an urban area with a chemically hazardous highway is a smart thing?11. Now if a law is passed that allows people like myslef to open fire on truckers, for aggresive driving, I would be for it, it would keep the *evil truckers* inline, which would benefit all the innocent car drivers.
11. Now if a law is passed that allows people like myslef to open fire on truckers, for aggresive driving, I would be for it, it would keep the *evil truckers* inline, which would benefit all the innocent car drivers.
You think killing the driver of a truck at 80k lbs going down the highway at 70mph in an urban area with a chemically hazardous highway is a smart thing?
You need to get off my bus now.
May you attempt this solution and be hit by the same truck then. Solves both problems instantly because neither of you will survive.Sorry bout that,
11. Now if a law is passed that allows people like myslef to open fire on truckers, for aggresive driving, I would be for it, it would keep the *evil truckers* inline, which would benefit all the innocent car drivers.
You think killing the driver of a truck at 80k lbs going down the highway at 70mph in an urban area with a chemically hazardous highway is a smart thing?
You need to get off my bus now.
1. *YUP*.
2. If it's me or him, I choose him.
3. Whatever happens after that its on the owner of the truck.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
Problem is more all the amateur drivers out there who have a tenth of the training, supervision, oversight and responsibility.Sorry bout that,
1. I drive in Dallas all the time.
2. When I need something there, which is often enough.
3. Granny ol gal, I do appreciate your efforts in this thread you're a heck of an ol gal, but this thread isn't about how *ALL* drivers need improvement.
4. I started this thread to show that some, *evil truckers* do stuff to harm and even kill other innocent drivers.
5. Now sure, you think that its a problem you can easyly blanket over everyone, I don't agree, in my opinion, there is a section of truckers who really drive aggresively, and they dont care if you get ran over and killed or not.
6. Day in Day out, innocent people get killed by *evil truckers*, when they dont have to be let loose on our roadways.
7. Like I said, its way too important to not do something, and computers and cameras has to be a first step.
8. It should be made, *LAW*.
9. To require *ALL* data of what happens should be relayed back to a centralized police force, that monitors this, which could be funded by the insurance companies.
10. Public safty should be everyone concern.
11. Now if a law is passed that allows people like myslef to open fire on truckers, for aggresive driving, I would be for it, it would keep the *evil truckers* inline, which would benefit all the innocent car drivers.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
You ever get yearly certifications for the Smith System? How often a year are your skills evaluated? Do you drive with a cell phone in your ear? Texting? Do you have to get an annual or bi-annual physical to make sure you're physically fit enough and capable enough to drive a car? You willing to get a DUI for a 0.02 BAC like a professional? Willing to lose your license for a year for speeding like a pro? Willing to be subjected at every accident, even if it's a paint scrape with the loss of your job because you should 'know better' on how to take a turn?
If not, you're an amateur and much more likely to be the cause of the problem, than it's solution.
Monthly safety meetings and training here. DOT physicals are Biannual unless you are discovered to have Diabetes, High Blood Pressure, heart irregularities, Sleep Apnea or another chronic medical condition. Then it's yearly.Problem is more all the amateur drivers out there who have a tenth of the training, supervision, oversight and responsibility.Sorry bout that,
1. I drive in Dallas all the time.
2. When I need something there, which is often enough.
3. Granny ol gal, I do appreciate your efforts in this thread you're a heck of an ol gal, but this thread isn't about how *ALL* drivers need improvement.
4. I started this thread to show that some, *evil truckers* do stuff to harm and even kill other innocent drivers.
5. Now sure, you think that its a problem you can easyly blanket over everyone, I don't agree, in my opinion, there is a section of truckers who really drive aggresively, and they dont care if you get ran over and killed or not.
6. Day in Day out, innocent people get killed by *evil truckers*, when they dont have to be let loose on our roadways.
7. Like I said, its way too important to not do something, and computers and cameras has to be a first step.
8. It should be made, *LAW*.
9. To require *ALL* data of what happens should be relayed back to a centralized police force, that monitors this, which could be funded by the insurance companies.
10. Public safty should be everyone concern.
11. Now if a law is passed that allows people like myslef to open fire on truckers, for aggresive driving, I would be for it, it would keep the *evil truckers* inline, which would benefit all the innocent car drivers.
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
You ever get yearly certifications for the Smith System? How often a year are your skills evaluated? Do you drive with a cell phone in your ear? Texting? Do you have to get an annual or bi-annual physical to make sure you're physically fit enough and capable enough to drive a car? You willing to get a DUI for a 0.02 BAC like a professional? Willing to lose your license for a year for speeding like a pro? Willing to be subjected at every accident, even if it's a paint scrape with the loss of your job because you should 'know better' on how to take a turn?
If not, you're an amateur and much more likely to be the cause of the problem, than it's solution.
Actually, I never get yearly certifications for anything - Smith System or otherwise.
I think most trucking companies have mandatory safety meetings more than once a year. "Young and unexperienced" is a universal thing no matter what job you have - you have to start learning sometime - trick is retaining what you've learned so that you become more experienced with the passage of time. I do believe truckers, by law, have to have at least one physical exam a year to determine whether they are healthy enough to drive. There are also those random drug and alcohol tests if you work for a company. Companies don't want that kind of liability hanging over their heads.
Give it up, darlin' ... it's an imperfect world with imperfect people and that's just life - not a damned thing any of us can do to make everything 100% perfect 100% of the time.
I would think the worst of the worst drivers are pretty much off the road sincTruck driver in fatal crash chargede CDLs came about.
A car is just as much a lethal weapon as a big rig - and people driving cars are far more threatening to others on the road.
What's that saying? - "If you can't run with the big dogs, then stay on the porch."
I would think the worst of the worst drivers are pretty much off the road sincTruck driver in fatal crash chargede CDLs came about.
A car is just as much a lethal weapon as a big rig - and people driving cars are far more threatening to others on the road.
What's that saying? - "If you can't run with the big dogs, then stay on the porch."
Unfortunately, this happened just yesterday.
Truck driver in fatal crash charged
ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY -- The driver of a tractor-trailer truck involved in a crash that killed three people Thursday on U.S. Highway 67 has been charged with three counts of second-degree involuntary manslaughter, according to court filings.
Robert Carmona, 37, of New York City, was charged Friday in St. Francois County Circuit Court. He also is charged with driving while his license is revoked. Carmona's license was suspended because he stole motor fuel, according to court filings.
Carmona was driving southbound on the highway near Bonne Terre when his truck slammed into the back of a car in front of him, sending both vehicles off the roadway, the Missouri Highway Patrol said.
The driver of the car, Frank Weber, 56, of DeSoto, and two passengers, Aaron Weber, 20, and Rachel Sharp, 18, both of Bonne Terre, died in the crash.
Truck driver in fatal crash charged
Sorry bout that,
I would think the worst of the worst drivers are pretty much off the road sincTruck driver in fatal crash chargede CDLs came about.
A car is just as much a lethal weapon as a big rig - and people driving cars are far more threatening to others on the road.
What's that saying? - "If you can't run with the big dogs, then stay on the porch."
Unfortunately, this happened just yesterday.
Truck driver in fatal crash charged
ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY -- The driver of a tractor-trailer truck involved in a crash that killed three people Thursday on U.S. Highway 67 has been charged with three counts of second-degree involuntary manslaughter, according to court filings.
Robert Carmona, 37, of New York City, was charged Friday in St. Francois County Circuit Court. He also is charged with driving while his license is revoked. Carmona's license was suspended because he stole motor fuel, according to court filings.
Carmona was driving southbound on the highway near Bonne Terre when his truck slammed into the back of a car in front of him, sending both vehicles off the roadway, the Missouri Highway Patrol said.
The driver of the car, Frank Weber, 56, of DeSoto, and two passengers, Aaron Weber, 20, and Rachel Sharp, 18, both of Bonne Terre, died in the crash.
Truck driver in fatal crash charged
1, See now?
2. This is happening all across America.
3. Never doubt me.
4. Do a goggle search if you think I lie!
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
Sorry bout that,
Unfortunately, this happened just yesterday.
Truck driver in fatal crash charged
ST. FRANCOIS COUNTY -- The driver of a tractor-trailer truck involved in a crash that killed three people Thursday on U.S. Highway 67 has been charged with three counts of second-degree involuntary manslaughter, according to court filings.
Robert Carmona, 37, of New York City, was charged Friday in St. Francois County Circuit Court. He also is charged with driving while his license is revoked. Carmona's license was suspended because he stole motor fuel, according to court filings.
Carmona was driving southbound on the highway near Bonne Terre when his truck slammed into the back of a car in front of him, sending both vehicles off the roadway, the Missouri Highway Patrol said.
The driver of the car, Frank Weber, 56, of DeSoto, and two passengers, Aaron Weber, 20, and Rachel Sharp, 18, both of Bonne Terre, died in the crash.
Truck driver in fatal crash charged
1, See now?
2. This is happening all across America.
3. Never doubt me.
4. Do a goggle search if you think I lie!
Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
I've never denied that accidents happen, I've never denied that some truckers should be pulled off the road and/or lose their license. What I'm getting out of all this discourse is that someone wants me to admit that 100% of all the truckers on the road are careless and reckless shit heads bent on murdering everybody else on the highway - and that's not going to happen because it's not true.
As for JScott - (1) be more careful when you edit - don't put words in my mouth;
(2) I stand by what I said - lethal is lethal - I don't care whether you're hit by a big rig, a car, or a bicycle - dead is dead. Cars are essentially more dangerous than trucks because they can reach higher speeds faster and are more easily maneuverable - they can zip in and out of lanes quicker. Way more cars are on the roads than there are trucks and way too many people driving those cars have blistering road rage, think they are invincible, and take way more risks than truckers can take, if for no other reason than the size and weight of the big rigs.
(3) We, as consumers, need those trucks running 24/7 or we would find ourselves shit out of luck when it came time to purchase or we needed something. I can't think of one single thing that isn't hauled somewhere sometime by a trucker. So, if you can't run with the big dogs (if you're scared of or hate the big rigs) stay on the porch (stay at home or take the back roads scenic route to get where you're going).
Shooting the driver of a semi as it rolls down the road because it's perceived as a threat? Yeah, that seems like a good idea.
Now you can get prosecuted for more than one murder: The driver and then any other motorist/person who the now un-manned semi plows into. I am not a lawyer, but maybe the lawyers can help me out: would that be felony murder?
I know the OP is stupid, but this is a new high water mark of stupidity.