What's wrong with the GOP? Vote on Supreme Court Justice

[deltex1]

I have yet to hear a non-political non-BS reason for the GOP's hold out from meeting and voting on a Supreme Court Nominee. If there was a president Trump and the same situation presented itself in 4 years is there any doubt that they would flip a 180 and support a vote for the nominee??

If the GOP doesn't like the nominated justice then they can simply vote NO. The gridlock is ridiculous and the source for much frustration from Americans... Why can't they just do their jobs?

They don't know how to do their jobs. Obama has placed two morons on the court already...why give him a shot at a third. Once the process begins I don't trust the repubs to hold their ground. So do nothing.

 

[TNHarley]

Give it a freaking chance. Hussein only nominated him the day before yesterday. On the surface it seems that the judge might be a moderate but rumors persist that he holds unconstitutional personal bias against the 2nd Amendment. Let it play out.

Sure, give them a little time so they can check out his birth certificate, or investigate whether he caused the Benghazi tragedy. They are right wingers. They'll make up some silly thing to accuse him of. They always have before.

What have they accused him of before?

They make up accusations. That's what they do. He hasn't been in their sights before, but made up accusations are SOP for the right.

Didn't you already see a USMB rightwinger post one of their latest made-up lies about the nominee? That he's somehow anti-second amendment. No proof whatsoever to back it up, but somehow they just know he is. Somehow.

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The proof is in his history. Maybe you should bother to check it out.

 

[Brain357]

No, it is NOT working perfectly. Sabotaging the vetting process is NOT what the founders intended, No one is asking the Senate to accept the candidate,they are simply being asked to evaluate the nominee as prescribed in the Constitution. They can either reject or confirm him but ignoring the entire process is not provided for in the Constitution

I sent my elected representatives to Washington with instructions to tell Obama and Democrats to go to hell and vote no on anything they ask for. I love it when a plan comes together. (lights a Hannibal Smith cigar, A-Team theme song starts playing)

I don't care what your Senators do s long as they don't interfere with the Constitutional process of vetting a USSC nominee. They are refusing to do that and I expect Obama fie a lawsuit. This is not a filibuster which is legal BTW and has been used before, this is an unprecedented breech of Constitutional doctrine that cannot be tolerated as it would set a precedent that could have ramifications on both sides of the isle for every future nomination.

you are so FOS. The dems did exactly that same thing when the parties were reversed. You libs are sick.

I can't hep that you don't know the difference between vetting and not doing a damn thing. The democrats have always vetted nominees.
That is the dynamic involved in Advise and Consent wherein acceptance or rejection are ensconced as the two Constitutional options. To do nothing is NOT an option.

bullshit, listen to what Biden and Schumer said that last time the parties were reversed and this happened.

Not acting on a SC nomination is totally within the constitutional powers of the senate----------------and the really sick thing is that you dem/libs would be making that same argument if the parties were reversed. You are hypocrites.

After years of calling biden a moron, now all of a sudden you are listening to him. Amazing.

 

[Redfish]

I sent my elected representatives to Washington with instructions to tell Obama and Democrats to go to hell and vote no on anything they ask for. I love it when a plan comes together. (lights a Hannibal Smith cigar, A-Team theme song starts playing)

I don't care what your Senators do s long as they don't interfere with the Constitutional process of vetting a USSC nominee. They are refusing to do that and I expect Obama fie a lawsuit. This is not a filibuster which is legal BTW and has been used before, this is an unprecedented breech of Constitutional doctrine that cannot be tolerated as it would set a precedent that could have ramifications on both sides of the isle for every future nomination.

you are so FOS. The dems did exactly that same thing when the parties were reversed. You libs are sick.

I can't hep that you don't know the difference between vetting and not doing a damn thing. The democrats have always vetted nominees.
That is the dynamic involved in Advise and Consent wherein acceptance or rejection are ensconced as the two Constitutional options. To do nothing is NOT an option.

bullshit, listen to what Biden and Schumer said that last time the parties were reversed and this happened.

Not acting on a SC nomination is totally within the constitutional powers of the senate----------------and the really sick thing is that you dem/libs would be making that same argument if the parties were reversed. You are hypocrites.

After years of calling biden a moron, now all of a sudden you are listening to him. Amazing.

no, he is still a moron. just pointing out dem/lib hypocrisy.

 

[Brain357]

I don't care what your Senators do s long as they don't interfere with the Constitutional process of vetting a USSC nominee. They are refusing to do that and I expect Obama fie a lawsuit. This is not a filibuster which is legal BTW and has been used before, this is an unprecedented breech of Constitutional doctrine that cannot be tolerated as it would set a precedent that could have ramifications on both sides of the isle for every future nomination.

you are so FOS. The dems did exactly that same thing when the parties were reversed. You libs are sick.

I can't hep that you don't know the difference between vetting and not doing a damn thing. The democrats have always vetted nominees.
That is the dynamic involved in Advise and Consent wherein acceptance or rejection are ensconced as the two Constitutional options. To do nothing is NOT an option.

bullshit, listen to what Biden and Schumer said that last time the parties were reversed and this happened.

Not acting on a SC nomination is totally within the constitutional powers of the senate----------------and the really sick thing is that you dem/libs would be making that same argument if the parties were reversed. You are hypocrites.

After years of calling biden a moron, now all of a sudden you are listening to him. Amazing.

no, he is still a moron. just pointing out dem/lib hypocrisy.

While pointing out the repub hypocrisy. Well done.

 

[Redfish]

you are so FOS. The dems did exactly that same thing when the parties were reversed. You libs are sick.

I can't hep that you don't know the difference between vetting and not doing a damn thing. The democrats have always vetted nominees.
That is the dynamic involved in Advise and Consent wherein acceptance or rejection are ensconced as the two Constitutional options. To do nothing is NOT an option.

bullshit, listen to what Biden and Schumer said that last time the parties were reversed and this happened.

Not acting on a SC nomination is totally within the constitutional powers of the senate----------------and the really sick thing is that you dem/libs would be making that same argument if the parties were reversed. You are hypocrites.

After years of calling biden a moron, now all of a sudden you are listening to him. Amazing.

no, he is still a moron. just pointing out dem/lib hypocrisy.

While pointing out the repub hypocrisy. Well done.

yes, both parties do it. did you just figure that out?

 

[Brain357]

I can't hep that you don't know the difference between vetting and not doing a damn thing. The democrats have always vetted nominees.
That is the dynamic involved in Advise and Consent wherein acceptance or rejection are ensconced as the two Constitutional options. To do nothing is NOT an option.

bullshit, listen to what Biden and Schumer said that last time the parties were reversed and this happened.

Not acting on a SC nomination is totally within the constitutional powers of the senate----------------and the really sick thing is that you dem/libs would be making that same argument if the parties were reversed. You are hypocrites.

After years of calling biden a moron, now all of a sudden you are listening to him. Amazing.

no, he is still a moron. just pointing out dem/lib hypocrisy.

While pointing out the repub hypocrisy. Well done.

yes, both parties do it. did you just figure that out?

And the people should be against it like now. The repubs are shooting themselves in the foot again.

 

[Redfish]

bullshit, listen to what Biden and Schumer said that last time the parties were reversed and this happened.

Not acting on a SC nomination is totally within the constitutional powers of the senate----------------and the really sick thing is that you dem/libs would be making that same argument if the parties were reversed. You are hypocrites.

After years of calling biden a moron, now all of a sudden you are listening to him. Amazing.

no, he is still a moron. just pointing out dem/lib hypocrisy.

While pointing out the repub hypocrisy. Well done.

yes, both parties do it. did you just figure that out?

And the people should be against it like now. The repubs are shooting themselves in the foot again.

the foot shooting is being done by both parties. The GOP refusing to get behind the candidate that the people want, and the dems running a corrupt lying old white woman and a stupid old white male socialist.

 

[Brain357]

After years of calling biden a moron, now all of a sudden you are listening to him. Amazing.

no, he is still a moron. just pointing out dem/lib hypocrisy.

While pointing out the repub hypocrisy. Well done.

yes, both parties do it. did you just figure that out?

And the people should be against it like now. The repubs are shooting themselves in the foot again.

the foot shooting is being done by both parties. The GOP refusing to get behind the candidate that the people want, and the dems running a corrupt lying old white woman and a stupid old white male socialist.

The repub congress is refusing to do their job. They have been the do nothing congress, this only makes it more obvious right before an election.

 

[Redfish]

no, he is still a moron. just pointing out dem/lib hypocrisy.

While pointing out the repub hypocrisy. Well done.

yes, both parties do it. did you just figure that out?

And the people should be against it like now. The repubs are shooting themselves in the foot again.

the foot shooting is being done by both parties. The GOP refusing to get behind the candidate that the people want, and the dems running a corrupt lying old white woman and a stupid old white male socialist.

The repub congress is refusing to do their job. They have been the do nothing congress, this only makes it more obvious right before an election.

they are doing their job. They have told Obama that his nominee is not acceptable.

Now, if you want to talk about a do-nothing congress. How many house passed bills did Reid refuse to bring to a vote in the senate when the dems controlled it? Answer: over 300.

 

[Brain357]

While pointing out the repub hypocrisy. Well done.

yes, both parties do it. did you just figure that out?

And the people should be against it like now. The repubs are shooting themselves in the foot again.

the foot shooting is being done by both parties. The GOP refusing to get behind the candidate that the people want, and the dems running a corrupt lying old white woman and a stupid old white male socialist.

The repub congress is refusing to do their job. They have been the do nothing congress, this only makes it more obvious right before an election.

they are doing their job. They have told Obama that his nominee is not acceptable.

Now, if you want to talk about a do-nothing congress. How many house passed bills did Reid refuse to bring to a vote in the senate when the dems controlled it? Answer: over 300.

They said that before one was even picked. In fact they made it clear they would not do their job. Which should have been expected given how little they have done. Heck has Rubio even been their for anything?

I guess that is why the Dems lost the senate. Guess who's turn it is to lose it now?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Moron.org is enthusiastic about this joker....talk about a red flag.

He is one of the two who tried to derail the appeal that led to Heller. He wrote an opinion against the Little Sisters of the Poor. So he is anti 1st and 2nd amendment. NARAL rates him high as a pro-abortion pick, though the evidence supporting their support is spotty.

 

[Uncensored2008]

They don't know how to do their jobs. Obama has placed two morons on the court already...why give him a shot at a third. Once the process begins I don't trust the repubs to hold their ground. So do nothing.

I wouldn't call Elena Kagan a "moron," by any means.

A Communist dedicated to ending the Constitutional Republic, sure; but moron, nah...

Now Sotomayor is dumb as a stump.

 

[Slade3200]

Personally, I try not to be and don't think I have been bias in this discussion. I take issues at face value and sometimes my opinion falls left and sometimes right. I'm not a loyal party diehard, I think that is damaging to our process. Like with this discussion, you have all these right wingers backing up weak inaction from their party. If the dems did it they would be throwing a fit. It's hypocrisy at its finest. It goes both ways for both parties.

We spent 6 years fretting over Senate inaction on important GOP legislation that was blocked by Harry Reid. I don't recall you or any other Liberal in here calling for votes for or against our House Bills.

Hypocrite much?

I don't make excuses for Reid, he is also part of the problem.

 

[Searcher44]

I have yet to hear a non-political non-BS reason for the GOP's hold out from meeting and voting on a Supreme Court Nominee. If there was a president Trump and the same situation presented itself in 4 years is there any doubt that they would flip a 180 and support a vote for the nominee??

If the GOP doesn't like the nominated justice then they can simply vote NO. The gridlock is ridiculous and the source for much frustration from Americans... Why can't they just do their jobs?

I don't know why this question keeps getting ask. The answer was obvious years ago. Here's PBS's Frontline introduction to a video on Obama's Presidency;

"On the night of Barack Obama’s inauguration, a group of top GOP luminaries quietly gathered in a Washington steakhouse to lick their wounds and ultimately create the outline of a plan for how to deal with the incoming administration.
The room was filled. It was a who’s who of ranking members who had at one point been committee chairmen, or in the majority, who now wondered out loud whether they were in the permanent minority," Frank Luntz, who organized the event, told FRONTLINE.
"Among them were Senate power brokers Jim DeMint, Jon Kyl and Tom Coburn, and conservative congressmen Eric Cantor, Kevin McCarthy and Paul Ryan.
After three hours of strategizing, they decided they needed to fight Obama on everything. The new president had no idea what the Republicans were planning."

They were planning to sabotage Obama's Presidency, hopefully make him a one term president by any means possible.That meeting was the initial move in a conspiracy to effect what was in reality a non-violent, secret coup d'état designed to deny the President of the United States the opportunity to exercise the powers granted to him by the Constitution and possibly fulfill his promises to the American people. To make government more responsive to them, more transparent, and transform society into a more egalitarian and fair enterprise. If allowed to follow through on his campaign rhetoric the Congressional Parasites and their Corporate masters who fed off the blind brainwashed masses would no longer have a passive, compliant public to bleed dry, to act as bearers and beaters in their hunt for more and more profit and wealth.

Even after it became clear that Obama had no intention of being the transformative president he had advertised, an image which seduced a great many Americans and many more worldwide into believing America was about to become once more a shining example of democracy to lead the world into a better tomorrow, (oh how hungrily we progressives swallowed that clichéd dream). Even when from the very beginning his corporatist economic vision was declared by his choices of advisors and Cabinet members the Republicans still had no intention of cooperating, negotiating, or compromising as had always been done to at least fool the American people into believing things were happening, actions were being taken on their behalf. Hell, old-time Pols like Tip O`Neill and his Republican "enemies" in Congress actually believed their own rhetoric and that government could act to make life better for the average citizen. That seems a long time ago. Now the venality of perennially well financed incumbents in the Republican party is exposed (but unrecognized by most) by their personal hatred for this president and their willingness to let the infrastructures of American life go to hell before they will reach out across the aisle. Meanwhile their financiers engorge themselves on the abundance of fruit produced by and denied to the American worker.

I've become a terrible cynic lately regarding the fundamental motivation underlying the impediments to action, the blockading of any progress this President might attempt, barricades the Republicans have constructed year after year. It's a dark suspicion of residual evil in the primal underbelly of American society and Republican politics, a suspicion raised by the fact that Obama just happens to be the first black President.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I don't know why this question keeps getting ask. The answer was obvious years ago. Here's PBS's Frontline introduction to a video on Obama's Presidency;

"On the night of Barack Obama’s inauguration, a group of top GOP luminaries quietly gathered in a Washington steakhouse to lick their wounds and ultimately create the outline of a plan for how to deal with the incoming administration.
The room was filled. It was a who’s who of ranking members who had at one point been committee chairmen, or in the majority, who now wondered out loud whether they were in the permanent minority," Frank Luntz, who organized the event, told FRONTLINE.
"Among them were Senate power brokers Jim DeMint, Jon Kyl and Tom Coburn, and conservative congressmen Eric Cantor, Kevin McCarthy and Paul Ryan.
After three hours of strategizing, they decided they needed to fight Obama on everything. The new president had no idea what the Republicans were planning."

They were planning to sabotage Obama's Presidency, hopefully make him a one term president by any means possible.That meeting was the initial move in a conspiracy to effect what was in reality a non-violent, secret coup d'état designed to deny the President of the United States the opportunity to exercise the powers granted to him by the Constitution and possibly fulfill his promises to the American people. To make government more responsive to them, more transparent, and transform society into a more egalitarian and fair enterprise. If allowed to follow through on his campaign rhetoric the Congressional Parasites and their Corporate masters who fed off the blind brainwashed masses would no longer have a passive, compliant public to bleed dry, to act as bearers and beaters in their hunt for more and more profit and wealth.

Even after it became clear that Obama had no intention of being the transformative president he had advertised, an image which seduced a great many Americans and many more worldwide into believing America was about to become once more a shining example of democracy to lead the world into a better tomorrow, (oh how hungrily we progressives swallowed that clichéd dream). Even when from the very beginning his corporatist economic vision was declared by his choices of advisors and Cabinet members the Republicans still had no intention of cooperating, negotiating, or compromising as had always been done to at least fool the American people into believing things were happening, actions were being taken on their behalf. Hell, old-time Pols like Tip O`Neill and his Republican "enemies" in Congress actually believed their own rhetoric and that government could act to make life better for the average citizen. That seems a long time ago. Now the venality of perennially well financed incumbents in the Republican party is exposed (but unrecognized by most) by their personal hatred for this president and their willingness to let the infrastructures of American life go to hell before they will reach out across the aisle. Meanwhile their financiers engorge themselves on the abundance of fruit produced by and denied to the American worker.

I've become a terrible cynic lately regarding the fundamental motivation underlying the impediments to action, the blockading of any progress this President might attempt, barricades the Republicans have constructed year after year. It's a dark suspicion of residual evil in the primal underbelly of American society and Republican politics, a suspicion raised by the fact that Obama just happens to be the first black President.

Oh yes, if Obama were white the GOP would have embraced radical leftism.

You Communists sure are fucking smart...

I mean, Republicans never opposed Jimmy Carter or George McGovern.. right?

 

[Searcher44]

I don't know why this question keeps getting ask. The answer was obvious years ago. Here's PBS's Frontline introduction to a video on Obama's Presidency;

"On the night of Barack Obama’s inauguration, a group of top GOP luminaries quietly gathered in a Washington steakhouse to lick their wounds and ultimately create the outline of a plan for how to deal with the incoming administration.
The room was filled. It was a who’s who of ranking members who had at one point been committee chairmen, or in the majority, who now wondered out loud whether they were in the permanent minority," Frank Luntz, who organized the event, told FRONTLINE.
"Among them were Senate power brokers Jim DeMint, Jon Kyl and Tom Coburn, and conservative congressmen Eric Cantor, Kevin McCarthy and Paul Ryan.
After three hours of strategizing, they decided they needed to fight Obama on everything. The new president had no idea what the Republicans were planning."

They were planning to sabotage Obama's Presidency, hopefully make him a one term president by any means possible.That meeting was the initial move in a conspiracy to effect what was in reality a non-violent, secret coup d'état designed to deny the President of the United States the opportunity to exercise the powers granted to him by the Constitution and possibly fulfill his promises to the American people. To make government more responsive to them, more transparent, and transform society into a more egalitarian and fair enterprise. If allowed to follow through on his campaign rhetoric the Congressional Parasites and their Corporate masters who fed off the blind brainwashed masses would no longer have a passive, compliant public to bleed dry, to act as bearers and beaters in their hunt for more and more profit and wealth.

Even after it became clear that Obama had no intention of being the transformative president he had advertised, an image which seduced a great many Americans and many more worldwide into believing America was about to become once more a shining example of democracy to lead the world into a better tomorrow, (oh how hungrily we progressives swallowed that clichéd dream). Even when from the very beginning his corporatist economic vision was declared by his choices of advisors and Cabinet members the Republicans still had no intention of cooperating, negotiating, or compromising as had always been done to at least fool the American people into believing things were happening, actions were being taken on their behalf. Hell, old-time Pols like Tip O`Neill and his Republican "enemies" in Congress actually believed their own rhetoric and that government could act to make life better for the average citizen. That seems a long time ago. Now the venality of perennially well financed incumbents in the Republican party is exposed (but unrecognized by most) by their personal hatred for this president and their willingness to let the infrastructures of American life go to hell before they will reach out across the aisle. Meanwhile their financiers engorge themselves on the abundance of fruit produced by and denied to the American worker.

I've become a terrible cynic lately regarding the fundamental motivation underlying the impediments to action, the blockading of any progress this President might attempt, barricades the Republicans have constructed year after year. It's a dark suspicion of residual evil in the primal underbelly of American society and Republican politics, a suspicion raised by the fact that Obama just happens to be the first black President.

Oh yes, if Obama were white the GOP would have embraced radical leftism.

You Communists sure are fucking smart...

I mea, Republicans never opposed Jimmy Carter or George McGovern.. right?

I just explained how, from the start, Obama was nowhere near a "radical leftist". You're one of the blind brainwashed dolts who can't see that or is too prejudiced to let facts penetrate an infantile inability to analyze historical reality with anything approaching objectivity. Wake up and take your fucking blinders off.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I just explained how, from the start, Obama was nowhere near a "radical leftist". You're one of the blind brainwashed dolts who can't see that or is too prejudiced to let facts penetrate an infantile inability to analyze historical reality with anything approaching objectivity. Wake up and take your fucking blinders off.

Obama is the furthest left of any president in history. You leftists fools have nothing other than your divide and conquer demagoguery to work with. I oppose Obama because he is a pile of shit, same reason I oppose Hilliary.

The Obama color that sane people oppose is red.

Say, shouldn't you be watching your little tin messiah scrap and bow to Castro? Cuba has accepted our surrender as given by Obama.

 

[Searcher44]

I just explained how, from the start, Obama was nowhere near a "radical leftist". You're one of the blind brainwashed dolts who can't see that or is too prejudiced to let facts penetrate an infantile inability to analyze historical reality with anything approaching objectivity. Wake up and take your fucking blinders off.

Obama is the furthest left of any president in history. You leftists fools have nothing other than your divide and conquer demagoguery to work with. I oppose Obama because he is a pile of shit, same reason I oppose Hilliary.

The Obama color that sane people oppose is red.

Say, shouldn't you be watching your little tin messiah scrap and bow to Castro? Cuba has accepted our surrender as given by Obama.

The on-going primaries are incontrovertible proof that the majority of Americans have finally rejected the Establishment and the spoon-fed platitudes and talking points and upside down version of reality you are still spouting like a wind-up toy, careening around, bumping into obstacles, teetering off in another random direction, with a machine tooled look of bewilderment and no spontaneous reaction to what's really going on around you. Try thinking for yourself for a change. Both Republicans and Democrats are going in that novel direction. Or are you going to be one of those clinging to obsolete solutions that only benefit the establishment and unwilling to revolt by backing an anti-establishment type like Trump or Cruz or Sanders?

That bullshit about Castro is a typical example of the reactionaries denial of history. Shows a complete inability to accept America's role in installing and sustaining right-wing dictatorships in Latin America and around the World and the relationship of those wanna-be imperialist actions to U.S.-Cuban relations for the last 60-some years. Time to grow up and clear the cobwebs from your eyes.

 

[Arizona Willie]

Give it a freaking chance. Hussein only nominated him the day before yesterday. On the surface it seems that the judge might be a moderate but rumors persist that he holds unconstitutional personal bias against the 2nd Amendment. Let it play out.

I hope it plays out and congress does their job. I've been shaking my head for weeks at this posturing by the GOP to not even consider a nominee. It blows my mind and I still haven't heard a sensible justification.

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They are REPUBLICANS and therefore they have no use for logical / sensible / doing their job / and they hate the Constitution because it prevents them from installing a packed Supreme Court.