What will Israel do with 7 Million Palestinians?

[P F Tinmore]

"With growing numbers of Russian Jews applying to the Ottoman Consul-General at Odessa for visas to enter Palestine, the following notice was posted outside his office a few months later, on April 28, 1882: The Ottoman Government informs all [Jews] wishing to immigrate into Turkey that they are not permitted to settle in Palestine.

Interesting that the Ottomans recognized Palestine.

 

[Correll]

Your pretense that you do not understand the concept of linear time reveals you to be purposefully deceptive.


WHich strongly implies that you know that your claims are bs.


Which raises the question, why do you hold a position that you cannot honestly defend?

Is it because you are aware that if you were honest about the REASON for your position, that it would reveal it to be indefensible?

So, let's break this down. I only state fact. None of what I post is derived from other than source or close to the source data.

1. There were people living in Palestine/Ottoman Kuds Special District and environs in 1850. About 400,000 people according to Ottoman census data.
2. The people overwhelmingly practiced the Christian or Muslim religion. Perhaps 2-4% practiced Judaism.
3. Europeans that practiced Judaism began to arrive over the next few decades notwithstanding the fact that Ottoman laws had been passed that stated that those of the Jewish faith could settle anywhere in the Empire except for Palestine (Filistin).

"With growing numbers of Russian Jews applying to the Ottoman Consul-General at Odessa for visas to enter Palestine, the following notice was posted outside his office a few months later, on April 28, 1882: The Ottoman Government informs all [Jews] wishing to immigrate into Turkey that they are not permitted to settle in Palestine. They may immigrate into the other provinces of [the Empire] and settle as they wish, provided only that they become Ottoman subjects and accept the obligation to fulfil the laws of the Empire. "

http://ismi.emory.edu/home/documents/Readings/Mandel, Neville J. Ottoman Policy.pdf

Are we agreed so far?

4. What were the intentions of the Europeans arriving in Palestine. Can we accept their own announcements in the press at the time?

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times depicts how the Conference sought to “colonize Palestine” and discussed the purchasing of land with English Zionists.
World Bulletin/News Desk

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times expresses that the Zionists “will colonize Palestine.”

The article explains that the conference discussed a paper from the English Zionist Federation “proposing the re-establishment of Judea as an independent State, suggesting the purchase of the Maccabean sites in Palestine, and the beginning of the work by the establishment of a Jewish colony and a Jewish Agricultural College there.”

It further clarifies that “The site to be purchased comprises about fifty acres, six miles from a station on the railroad between Jappa and Jerusalem, and within sight of the sea and a large stretch of the Palestinian coast.”

It notes that English Zionists have gathered 2,500 dollars in the currency of the period and request that quantity from the American Zionists.

The article also explains that “On motion of Dr. Wise, the Federation voted $100 as the nucleus of the required fund of $2,500, the remainder to be raised by subscriptions from the 125 societies and individuals, both Jews and Gentiles. A general appeal to the public will be made.”

It also conveys that delegates will be elected at the Zionist meeting in Baltimore.

The straightforward and comfortable manner with which the colonization is pursued is indicative how, before having to be concerned with the image of Zionism and public relations, Zionist leaders depicted their movement as a colonial mission during a time in which European nations were colonial powers.

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times - World Bulletin

5. So, were they lying that they intended to colonize a place that was already inhabited by several hundred thousand native inhabitants? Should the Muslims and Christians have allowed themselves to be colonized without putting up resistance?

The native people were defending themselves, as I stated previously. It is you that are full of B.S.

This is illegal immigration decades before any of the border changes your maps indicate.

It certainly would be quite provocative and could be, depending on other factors, a Just Cause for War.

But, there was no war, for over 50 years.


Claiming self defense 50 years after the fact is a bit of a stretch.

So, you believe that the Muslims and Christians should just give up and submit to Jew rule. Do you think that the non-whites in Apartheid South Africa should have just given up and accepted white-rule?

NOthing of what you wrote there is in any way connected with anything in my post, that you hit the reply button to.

Please try again. Or not, if you have reached the point where you can't face honest and serious challenges anymore.





This is illegal immigration decades before any of the border changes your maps indicate.

It certainly would be quite provocative and could be, depending on other factors, a Just Cause for War.

But, there was no war, for over 50 years.


Claiming self defense 50 years after the fact is a bit of a stretch.

What should an occupied and colonized population claim, except self-defense?

They can claim whatever they want. THe question is, are they full of shit or not.


The primary military contributions of the many wars launched by the arabs were NOT the "occupied" arabs, but arabs from near by nations that seem more motivated by hatred of jews, than any concern for their personal safety.

 

[rylah]

That you could show those maps without mentioning that the changes were the results of


war start by arabs.

to destroy Israel

the arabs lose, then whine like faggots,

repeat



destroys any shred of credibility that you have, or any source you are using.

What war was started by Arabs? The Europeans invaded Palestine, the Christians and Muslims were simply defending themselves. It's like claiming the American Indians started the war against the British colonists. You are a nutcase.

Your pretense that you do not understand the concept of linear time reveals you to be purposefully deceptive.


WHich strongly implies that you know that your claims are bs.


Which raises the question, why do you hold a position that you cannot honestly defend?

Is it because you are aware that if you were honest about the REASON for your position, that it would reveal it to be indefensible?

So, let's break this down. I only state fact. None of what I post is derived from other than source or close to the source data.

1. There were people living in Palestine/Ottoman Kuds Special District and environs in 1850. About 400,000 people according to Ottoman census data.
2. The people overwhelmingly practiced the Christian or Muslim religion. Perhaps 2-4% practiced Judaism.
3. Europeans that practiced Judaism began to arrive over the next few decades notwithstanding the fact that Ottoman laws had been passed that stated that those of the Jewish faith could settle anywhere in the Empire except for Palestine (Filistin).

"With growing numbers of Russian Jews applying to the Ottoman Consul-General at Odessa for visas to enter Palestine, the following notice was posted outside his office a few months later, on April 28, 1882: The Ottoman Government informs all [Jews] wishing to immigrate into Turkey that they are not permitted to settle in Palestine. They may immigrate into the other provinces of [the Empire] and settle as they wish, provided only that they become Ottoman subjects and accept the obligation to fulfil the laws of the Empire. "

http://ismi.emory.edu/home/documents/Readings/Mandel, Neville J. Ottoman Policy.pdf

Are we agreed so far?

4. What were the intentions of the Europeans arriving in Palestine. Can we accept their own announcements in the press at the time?

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times depicts how the Conference sought to “colonize Palestine” and discussed the purchasing of land with English Zionists.
World Bulletin/News Desk

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times expresses that the Zionists “will colonize Palestine.”

The article explains that the conference discussed a paper from the English Zionist Federation “proposing the re-establishment of Judea as an independent State, suggesting the purchase of the Maccabean sites in Palestine, and the beginning of the work by the establishment of a Jewish colony and a Jewish Agricultural College there.”

It further clarifies that “The site to be purchased comprises about fifty acres, six miles from a station on the railroad between Jappa and Jerusalem, and within sight of the sea and a large stretch of the Palestinian coast.”

It notes that English Zionists have gathered 2,500 dollars in the currency of the period and request that quantity from the American Zionists.

The article also explains that “On motion of Dr. Wise, the Federation voted $100 as the nucleus of the required fund of $2,500, the remainder to be raised by subscriptions from the 125 societies and individuals, both Jews and Gentiles. A general appeal to the public will be made.”

It also conveys that delegates will be elected at the Zionist meeting in Baltimore.

The straightforward and comfortable manner with which the colonization is pursued is indicative how, before having to be concerned with the image of Zionism and public relations, Zionist leaders depicted their movement as a colonial mission during a time in which European nations were colonial powers.

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times - World Bulletin

5. So, were they lying that they intended to colonize a place that was already inhabited by several hundred thousand native inhabitants? Should the Muslims and Christians have allowed themselves to be colonized without putting up resistance?

The native people were defending themselves, as I stated previously. It is you that are full of B.S.

Jews were living in Palestine beyond the Jerusalem district.
There were communities in the Acre, Nablus and Damascus Sanjuks as well.

Jews were less 1% - 2% of the population prior to 1850 and they weren't European colonists.

I don't know what part of Palestine You're talking about.
Actually according to a report from Cesar Famin in 1853, there was a Jewish majority in Jerusalem.

Population of Jerusalem as reported by Cesar Famin, a French diplomat in 1853 (p.49):

Jews - - - - - - - - - 8,000
Muslims - - - - - - - 4,000
Christians - - - - - 3,490
--------------------------------
Total - - - - - - - - 15,490

Different scholars give different figures. But this actually supports a variety of references showing that Jews were a significant community in Jerusalem.

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Anyway Jews are less than 0.2% of the whole world population.
Still deserve rights, as much as Yazidis, Kurds or Druze.

 

[MJB12741]

We are thoroughly inured to poverty, pain, agony, and harsh life, so no matter what Israel does to us short of physical extermination, we will remain a thorn in its side until Israel’s comes to terms with our humanity and human rights, including the right to absolute equality. After all, Ismael was not a child of a lesser God.

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Please at least read the essay prior to posting your idiotic crap.

Thanks

WHAT WILL ISRAEL DO WITH 7 MILLION PALESTINIANS?

OUTSTANDING POST! And which of you Zionists called Louie an imbecile? In 1948 there were approximately 1.2 million Palestinians living in Israel. And now there are only near 7 million of them left. Stop treating the Palestinians like the Nazi's did to the Jews. Stop this GENOCIDE you Zionists.

Oh Louie, good boy. Thank you for helping everyone see the truth.


Population Statistics - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict - ProCon.org

 

[montelatici]

What war was started by Arabs? The Europeans invaded Palestine, the Christians and Muslims were simply defending themselves. It's like claiming the American Indians started the war against the British colonists. You are a nutcase.

Your pretense that you do not understand the concept of linear time reveals you to be purposefully deceptive.


WHich strongly implies that you know that your claims are bs.


Which raises the question, why do you hold a position that you cannot honestly defend?

Is it because you are aware that if you were honest about the REASON for your position, that it would reveal it to be indefensible?

So, let's break this down. I only state fact. None of what I post is derived from other than source or close to the source data.

1. There were people living in Palestine/Ottoman Kuds Special District and environs in 1850. About 400,000 people according to Ottoman census data.
2. The people overwhelmingly practiced the Christian or Muslim religion. Perhaps 2-4% practiced Judaism.
3. Europeans that practiced Judaism began to arrive over the next few decades notwithstanding the fact that Ottoman laws had been passed that stated that those of the Jewish faith could settle anywhere in the Empire except for Palestine (Filistin).

"With growing numbers of Russian Jews applying to the Ottoman Consul-General at Odessa for visas to enter Palestine, the following notice was posted outside his office a few months later, on April 28, 1882: The Ottoman Government informs all [Jews] wishing to immigrate into Turkey that they are not permitted to settle in Palestine. They may immigrate into the other provinces of [the Empire] and settle as they wish, provided only that they become Ottoman subjects and accept the obligation to fulfil the laws of the Empire. "

http://ismi.emory.edu/home/documents/Readings/Mandel, Neville J. Ottoman Policy.pdf

Are we agreed so far?

4. What were the intentions of the Europeans arriving in Palestine. Can we accept their own announcements in the press at the time?

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times depicts how the Conference sought to “colonize Palestine” and discussed the purchasing of land with English Zionists.
World Bulletin/News Desk

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times expresses that the Zionists “will colonize Palestine.”

The article explains that the conference discussed a paper from the English Zionist Federation “proposing the re-establishment of Judea as an independent State, suggesting the purchase of the Maccabean sites in Palestine, and the beginning of the work by the establishment of a Jewish colony and a Jewish Agricultural College there.”

It further clarifies that “The site to be purchased comprises about fifty acres, six miles from a station on the railroad between Jappa and Jerusalem, and within sight of the sea and a large stretch of the Palestinian coast.”

It notes that English Zionists have gathered 2,500 dollars in the currency of the period and request that quantity from the American Zionists.

The article also explains that “On motion of Dr. Wise, the Federation voted $100 as the nucleus of the required fund of $2,500, the remainder to be raised by subscriptions from the 125 societies and individuals, both Jews and Gentiles. A general appeal to the public will be made.”

It also conveys that delegates will be elected at the Zionist meeting in Baltimore.

The straightforward and comfortable manner with which the colonization is pursued is indicative how, before having to be concerned with the image of Zionism and public relations, Zionist leaders depicted their movement as a colonial mission during a time in which European nations were colonial powers.

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times - World Bulletin

5. So, were they lying that they intended to colonize a place that was already inhabited by several hundred thousand native inhabitants? Should the Muslims and Christians have allowed themselves to be colonized without putting up resistance?

The native people were defending themselves, as I stated previously. It is you that are full of B.S.

Jews were living in Palestine beyond the Jerusalem district.
There were communities in the Acre, Nablus and Damascus Sanjuks as well.

Jews were less 1% - 2% of the population prior to 1850 and they weren't European colonists.

I don't know what part of Palestine You're talking about.
Actually according to a report from Cesar Famin in 1853, there was a Jewish majority in Jerusalem.

Population of Jerusalem as reported by Cesar Famin, a French diplomat in 1853 (p.49):

Jews - - - - - - - - - 8,000
Muslims - - - - - - - 4,000
Christians - - - - - 3,490
--------------------------------
Total - - - - - - - - 15,490

And a French diplomat is certainly a better source than the Ottoman Census. In any case there were only about 7,000 Jews in all of Palestine (Kudus) in 1905.

See pages 166 and 167 in the census compilation available below.

OTTOMAN POPULATION, 1830-1914: Demographic and Social Characteristics, By KEMAL H. KARPAT

 

[rylah]

Your pretense that you do not understand the concept of linear time reveals you to be purposefully deceptive.


WHich strongly implies that you know that your claims are bs.


Which raises the question, why do you hold a position that you cannot honestly defend?

Is it because you are aware that if you were honest about the REASON for your position, that it would reveal it to be indefensible?

So, let's break this down. I only state fact. None of what I post is derived from other than source or close to the source data.

1. There were people living in Palestine/Ottoman Kuds Special District and environs in 1850. About 400,000 people according to Ottoman census data.
2. The people overwhelmingly practiced the Christian or Muslim religion. Perhaps 2-4% practiced Judaism.
3. Europeans that practiced Judaism began to arrive over the next few decades notwithstanding the fact that Ottoman laws had been passed that stated that those of the Jewish faith could settle anywhere in the Empire except for Palestine (Filistin).

"With growing numbers of Russian Jews applying to the Ottoman Consul-General at Odessa for visas to enter Palestine, the following notice was posted outside his office a few months later, on April 28, 1882: The Ottoman Government informs all [Jews] wishing to immigrate into Turkey that they are not permitted to settle in Palestine. They may immigrate into the other provinces of [the Empire] and settle as they wish, provided only that they become Ottoman subjects and accept the obligation to fulfil the laws of the Empire. "

http://ismi.emory.edu/home/documents/Readings/Mandel, Neville J. Ottoman Policy.pdf

Are we agreed so far?

4. What were the intentions of the Europeans arriving in Palestine. Can we accept their own announcements in the press at the time?

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times depicts how the Conference sought to “colonize Palestine” and discussed the purchasing of land with English Zionists.
World Bulletin/News Desk

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times expresses that the Zionists “will colonize Palestine.”

The article explains that the conference discussed a paper from the English Zionist Federation “proposing the re-establishment of Judea as an independent State, suggesting the purchase of the Maccabean sites in Palestine, and the beginning of the work by the establishment of a Jewish colony and a Jewish Agricultural College there.”

It further clarifies that “The site to be purchased comprises about fifty acres, six miles from a station on the railroad between Jappa and Jerusalem, and within sight of the sea and a large stretch of the Palestinian coast.”

It notes that English Zionists have gathered 2,500 dollars in the currency of the period and request that quantity from the American Zionists.

The article also explains that “On motion of Dr. Wise, the Federation voted $100 as the nucleus of the required fund of $2,500, the remainder to be raised by subscriptions from the 125 societies and individuals, both Jews and Gentiles. A general appeal to the public will be made.”

It also conveys that delegates will be elected at the Zionist meeting in Baltimore.

The straightforward and comfortable manner with which the colonization is pursued is indicative how, before having to be concerned with the image of Zionism and public relations, Zionist leaders depicted their movement as a colonial mission during a time in which European nations were colonial powers.

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times - World Bulletin

5. So, were they lying that they intended to colonize a place that was already inhabited by several hundred thousand native inhabitants? Should the Muslims and Christians have allowed themselves to be colonized without putting up resistance?

The native people were defending themselves, as I stated previously. It is you that are full of B.S.

Jews were living in Palestine beyond the Jerusalem district.
There were communities in the Acre, Nablus and Damascus Sanjuks as well.

Jews were less 1% - 2% of the population prior to 1850 and they weren't European colonists.

I don't know what part of Palestine You're talking about.
Actually according to a report from Cesar Famin in 1853, there was a Jewish majority in Jerusalem.

Population of Jerusalem as reported by Cesar Famin, a French diplomat in 1853 (p.49):

Jews - - - - - - - - - 8,000
Muslims - - - - - - - 4,000
Christians - - - - - 3,490
--------------------------------
Total - - - - - - - - 15,490

And a French diplomat is certainly a better source than the Ottoman Census. In any case there were only about 7,000 Jews in all of Palestine (Kudus) in 1905.

See pages 166 and 167 in the census compilation available below.

OTTOMAN POPULATION, 1830-1914: Demographic and Social Characteristics, By KEMAL H. KARPAT

Palestine is more than just the Kudus (Jerusalem) district.

But I don't see how Your fixation on those numbers changes anything.
Those Jews were still mascaraed and expelled by their Arab neighbors, before any Zionist immigration.

 

[montelatici]

So, let's break this down. I only state fact. None of what I post is derived from other than source or close to the source data.

1. There were people living in Palestine/Ottoman Kuds Special District and environs in 1850. About 400,000 people according to Ottoman census data.
2. The people overwhelmingly practiced the Christian or Muslim religion. Perhaps 2-4% practiced Judaism.
3. Europeans that practiced Judaism began to arrive over the next few decades notwithstanding the fact that Ottoman laws had been passed that stated that those of the Jewish faith could settle anywhere in the Empire except for Palestine (Filistin).

"With growing numbers of Russian Jews applying to the Ottoman Consul-General at Odessa for visas to enter Palestine, the following notice was posted outside his office a few months later, on April 28, 1882: The Ottoman Government informs all [Jews] wishing to immigrate into Turkey that they are not permitted to settle in Palestine. They may immigrate into the other provinces of [the Empire] and settle as they wish, provided only that they become Ottoman subjects and accept the obligation to fulfil the laws of the Empire. "

http://ismi.emory.edu/home/documents/Readings/Mandel, Neville J. Ottoman Policy.pdf

Are we agreed so far?

4. What were the intentions of the Europeans arriving in Palestine. Can we accept their own announcements in the press at the time?

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times depicts how the Conference sought to “colonize Palestine” and discussed the purchasing of land with English Zionists.
World Bulletin/News Desk

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times expresses that the Zionists “will colonize Palestine.”

The article explains that the conference discussed a paper from the English Zionist Federation “proposing the re-establishment of Judea as an independent State, suggesting the purchase of the Maccabean sites in Palestine, and the beginning of the work by the establishment of a Jewish colony and a Jewish Agricultural College there.”

It further clarifies that “The site to be purchased comprises about fifty acres, six miles from a station on the railroad between Jappa and Jerusalem, and within sight of the sea and a large stretch of the Palestinian coast.”

It notes that English Zionists have gathered 2,500 dollars in the currency of the period and request that quantity from the American Zionists.

The article also explains that “On motion of Dr. Wise, the Federation voted $100 as the nucleus of the required fund of $2,500, the remainder to be raised by subscriptions from the 125 societies and individuals, both Jews and Gentiles. A general appeal to the public will be made.”

It also conveys that delegates will be elected at the Zionist meeting in Baltimore.

The straightforward and comfortable manner with which the colonization is pursued is indicative how, before having to be concerned with the image of Zionism and public relations, Zionist leaders depicted their movement as a colonial mission during a time in which European nations were colonial powers.

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times - World Bulletin

5. So, were they lying that they intended to colonize a place that was already inhabited by several hundred thousand native inhabitants? Should the Muslims and Christians have allowed themselves to be colonized without putting up resistance?

The native people were defending themselves, as I stated previously. It is you that are full of B.S.

Jews were living in Palestine beyond the Jerusalem district.
There were communities in the Acre, Nablus and Damascus Sanjuks as well.

Jews were less 1% - 2% of the population prior to 1850 and they weren't European colonists.

I don't know what part of Palestine You're talking about.
Actually according to a report from Cesar Famin in 1853, there was a Jewish majority in Jerusalem.

Population of Jerusalem as reported by Cesar Famin, a French diplomat in 1853 (p.49):

Jews - - - - - - - - - 8,000
Muslims - - - - - - - 4,000
Christians - - - - - 3,490
--------------------------------
Total - - - - - - - - 15,490

And a French diplomat is certainly a better source than the Ottoman Census. In any case there were only about 7,000 Jews in all of Palestine (Kudus) in 1905.

See pages 166 and 167 in the census compilation available below.

OTTOMAN POPULATION, 1830-1914: Demographic and Social Characteristics, By KEMAL H. KARPAT

Palestine is more than just the Kudus (Jerusalem) district.

But I don't see how Your fixation on those numbers changes anything.

Kudus Special District includes all of Palestine, Gaza, Jaffa etc. included. The facts are the facts. There is a breakdown of each district in Kudos Special District.

You are on a Hasbara schtick trying to revive old propaganda that has been debunked. Give it up.

 

[rylah]

Jews were living in Palestine beyond the Jerusalem district.
There were communities in the Acre, Nablus and Damascus Sanjuks as well.

Jews were less 1% - 2% of the population prior to 1850 and they weren't European colonists.

I don't know what part of Palestine You're talking about.
Actually according to a report from Cesar Famin in 1853, there was a Jewish majority in Jerusalem.

Population of Jerusalem as reported by Cesar Famin, a French diplomat in 1853 (p.49):

Jews - - - - - - - - - 8,000
Muslims - - - - - - - 4,000
Christians - - - - - 3,490
--------------------------------
Total - - - - - - - - 15,490

And a French diplomat is certainly a better source than the Ottoman Census. In any case there were only about 7,000 Jews in all of Palestine (Kudus) in 1905.

See pages 166 and 167 in the census compilation available below.

OTTOMAN POPULATION, 1830-1914: Demographic and Social Characteristics, By KEMAL H. KARPAT

Palestine is more than just the Kudus (Jerusalem) district.

But I don't see how Your fixation on those numbers changes anything.

Kudus Special District includes all of Palestine, Gaza, Jaffa etc. included. The facts are the facts. There is a breakdown of each district in Kudos Special District.

You are on a Hasbara schtick trying to revive old propaganda that has been debunked. Give it up.

Why are You sooooooo stressed?
This is really simple,

the Jerusalem (Kudus) district, Nablus district, Acre district and a part of the Beirut district ALL constitute the land we're talking about:

 

[montelatici]

Fake maps, don't change the census.

31 Kudüs

Yafa

Gazze

Halilürrahman

Blrulsebi

Nasıra

Total. Kudüs

 

[Shusha]

The *snip* people were defending themselves, as I stated previously.

The Ottoman Empire was defending its colonization against the return of the Jewish people to their homeland.

 

[louie888]

The *snip* people were defending themselves, as I stated previously.

The Ottoman Empire was defending its colonization against the return of the Jewish people to their homeland.

They were not returning to shit, no matter how many times you lie attempting to make it so.

 

[Roudy]

We are thoroughly inured to poverty, pain, agony, and harsh life, so no matter what Israel does to us short of physical extermination, we will remain a thorn in its side until Israel’s comes to terms with our humanity and human rights, including the right to absolute equality. After all, Ismael was not a child of a lesser God.

View attachment 138237

Please at least read the essay prior to posting your idiotic crap.

Thanks

WHAT WILL ISRAEL DO WITH 7 MILLION PALESTINIANS?

Seven million?! Jesus you guys are getting more and more insane every day. By tomorrow it will be 100 million I bet. But what do you expect from a shithead who's source is a conspiracy site named "desert piss" and uses images from antisemtic sites for insane people.

 

[Roudy]

While some zionists despute the quote in the meme, Einstein did sign an open letter by Jewish intellectuals in 1948 that said, “Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the “Freedom Party” (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties.”

We had a whole thread on his actual views which certainly put the above in perspective.

Albert Einstein penned this letter in 1948... just wow!

Beyond that, you clowns never even read the essay from the OP, heartless tools.

Just wow. Another fake letter from a neo Nazi site.

Maybe that's why Einstein was considering running for Prime Minister of Israel, eh? Because he hated it so much. Ha ha ha. Take a hike.

 

[montelatici]

Now the facts, as usual the dimwit makes things up. You can see Einstein's actual letter to the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry by clicking on the link below.

Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, established in 1945 to consider the issue of Jewish immigration to Palestine, Einstein reviews and explains his testimony. He went solely to act “in favor of our just cause,” he says. He believes in Palestine as a Jewish homeland but not as a separate state. He feels the Zionists, by asking for more, are taking an intransigent position, which will only “damage our cause.” What he would like to see is a “secured bi-national status in Palestine with free immigration,” adding that it defies common sense to “ask to be given the political rule over Palestine where two thirds of the population are not Jewish.”
Typed Letter Signed (“A. Einstein”), 1 page, quarto, on his personal embossed letterhead, 112 Mercer Street, Princeton, New Jersey, January 21, 1946. To Henry J. Factor in Indianapolis.

Einstein's Zionist and Political Views in 1946

 

[Indeependent]

Now the facts, as usual the dimwit makes things up. You can see Einstein's actual letter to the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry by clicking on the link below.

Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, established in 1945 to consider the issue of Jewish immigration to Palestine, Einstein reviews and explains his testimony. He went solely to act “in favor of our just cause,” he says. He believes in Palestine as a Jewish homeland but not as a separate state. He feels the Zionists, by asking for more, are taking an intransigent position, which will only “damage our cause.” What he would like to see is a “secured bi-national status in Palestine with free immigration,” adding that it defies common sense to “ask to be given the political rule over Palestine where two thirds of the population are not Jewish.”
Typed Letter Signed (“A. Einstein”), 1 page, quarto, on his personal embossed letterhead, 112 Mercer Street, Princeton, New Jersey, January 21, 1946. To Henry J. Factor in Indianapolis.

Einstein's Zionist and Political Views in 1946

And no one beheaded him.
Now let's see an Arab write a letter against Arab invasion and domination.

 

[montelatici]

Now the facts, as usual the dimwit makes things up. You can see Einstein's actual letter to the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry by clicking on the link below.

Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, established in 1945 to consider the issue of Jewish immigration to Palestine, Einstein reviews and explains his testimony. He went solely to act “in favor of our just cause,” he says. He believes in Palestine as a Jewish homeland but not as a separate state. He feels the Zionists, by asking for more, are taking an intransigent position, which will only “damage our cause.” What he would like to see is a “secured bi-national status in Palestine with free immigration,” adding that it defies common sense to “ask to be given the political rule over Palestine where two thirds of the population are not Jewish.”
Typed Letter Signed (“A. Einstein”), 1 page, quarto, on his personal embossed letterhead, 112 Mercer Street, Princeton, New Jersey, January 21, 1946. To Henry J. Factor in Indianapolis.

Einstein's Zionist and Political Views in 1946

And no one beheaded him.
Now let's see an Arab write a letter against Arab invasion and domination.

The Arabians that invaded are long dead, the Turks invaded and conquered the Arabian ruled lands long ago.

 

[Correll]

Now the facts, as usual the dimwit makes things up. You can see Einstein's actual letter to the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry by clicking on the link below.

Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, established in 1945 to consider the issue of Jewish immigration to Palestine, Einstein reviews and explains his testimony. He went solely to act “in favor of our just cause,” he says. He believes in Palestine as a Jewish homeland but not as a separate state. He feels the Zionists, by asking for more, are taking an intransigent position, which will only “damage our cause.” What he would like to see is a “secured bi-national status in Palestine with free immigration,” adding that it defies common sense to “ask to be given the political rule over Palestine where two thirds of the population are not Jewish.”
Typed Letter Signed (“A. Einstein”), 1 page, quarto, on his personal embossed letterhead, 112 Mercer Street, Princeton, New Jersey, January 21, 1946. To Henry J. Factor in Indianapolis.

Einstein's Zionist and Political Views in 1946

And no one beheaded him.
Now let's see an Arab write a letter against Arab invasion and domination.

The Arabians that invaded are long dead, the Turks invaded and conquered the Arabian ruled lands long ago.

How many of the zionists from 1899 are still alive? That you are so bent out of shape about?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

We are thoroughly inured to poverty, pain, agony, and harsh life, so no matter what Israel does to us short of physical extermination, we will remain a thorn in its side until Israel’s comes to terms with our humanity and human rights, including the right to absolute equality. After all, Ismael was not a child of a lesser God.

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Please at least read the essay prior to posting your idiotic crap.

Thanks

WHAT WILL ISRAEL DO WITH 7 MILLION PALESTINIANS?

Seven million?! Jesus you guys are getting more and more insane every day. By tomorrow it will be 100 million I bet. But what do you expect from a shithead who's source is a conspiracy site named "desert piss" and uses images from antisemtic sites for insane people.

The 2 million inside Israel are fully integrated Israeli citizens. The 3 million in the West Bank and Gaza can live under PA and Hamas control, as long as they don't bother the Jews too much. There are always 22 Arab lands they can go to.

 

[Indeependent]

Now the facts, as usual the dimwit makes things up. You can see Einstein's actual letter to the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry by clicking on the link below.

Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, established in 1945 to consider the issue of Jewish immigration to Palestine, Einstein reviews and explains his testimony. He went solely to act “in favor of our just cause,” he says. He believes in Palestine as a Jewish homeland but not as a separate state. He feels the Zionists, by asking for more, are taking an intransigent position, which will only “damage our cause.” What he would like to see is a “secured bi-national status in Palestine with free immigration,” adding that it defies common sense to “ask to be given the political rule over Palestine where two thirds of the population are not Jewish.”
Typed Letter Signed (“A. Einstein”), 1 page, quarto, on his personal embossed letterhead, 112 Mercer Street, Princeton, New Jersey, January 21, 1946. To Henry J. Factor in Indianapolis.

Einstein's Zionist and Political Views in 1946

And no one beheaded him.
Now let's see an Arab write a letter against Arab invasion and domination.

The Arabians that invaded are long dead, the Turks invaded and conquered the Arabian ruled lands long ago.

Don't avoid the veracity of my statement...
Let's see an Arab write a letter against Arab invasion and domination.

 

[Roudy]

Now the facts, as usual the dimwit makes things up. You can see Einstein's actual letter to the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry by clicking on the link below.

Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry, established in 1945 to consider the issue of Jewish immigration to Palestine, Einstein reviews and explains his testimony. He went solely to act “in favor of our just cause,” he says. He believes in Palestine as a Jewish homeland but not as a separate state. He feels the Zionists, by asking for more, are taking an intransigent position, which will only “damage our cause.” What he would like to see is a “secured bi-national status in Palestine with free immigration,” adding that it defies common sense to “ask to be given the political rule over Palestine where two thirds of the population are not Jewish.”
Typed Letter Signed (“A. Einstein”), 1 page, quarto, on his personal embossed letterhead, 112 Mercer Street, Princeton, New Jersey, January 21, 1946. To Henry J. Factor in Indianapolis.

Einstein's Zionist and Political Views in 1946

Zzzzz More BS from the Internet Jihadi.

Einstein recoiled from nationalism. But his personal experience of anti-Semitism and his witnessing of anti-Semitic attacks on his European Jewish peers convinced him that Jews needed a homeland.

“Until the end of his life he defended” his Zionist instinct, Gutfreund said. Einstein maintained that he was always a “cosmopolitan, but this nationalism is forced upon us and… it’s a necessity.”

In 1921 he embarked on a two-month tour of America to raise money for the World Zionist Organization and, in particular, for the building of the Hebrew University.

Einstein believed that the Hebrew University, which was founded in 1918, would be a beacon to the world, devoted to the pursuit of Jewish values of justice and human dignity.

It was Einstein’s first trip to America, and everywhere he went he was mobbed as a scientific superstar and, as Walter Isaacson described in his biography of Einstein, as “a living patron saint for Jews.”

That trip was followed one year later by Einstein’s first and only visit to Palestine. Although Einstein was dismissive of the Orthodox Jews he saw praying at the Western Wall, he was inspired by the sight of industrious, secular Jews laying the foundation for a nation.

During a stop in Jerusalem, he told a Zionist crowd, “Today, I have been made happy by the sight of the Jewish people learning to recognize themselves and to make themselves recognized as a force in the world.”