What the science says

[Divine Wind]

Excellent! Hopefully that will delay the next ice age.

It will. Global warming saves lives.

Global warming will save millions of lives
Winter regularly takes many more lives than any heatwave: 25,000 to 50,000 people each year die in Britain from excess cold. Across Europe, there are six times more cold-related deaths than heat-related deaths. We know this from the world's biggest cross-national, peer-reviewed studies under the aegis of Professor William Keatinge of the University of London.

Global warming will mean more frequent heatwaves, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change – by 2100, every three years instead of every 20 years. But bitterly cold spells will decrease as quickly, coming once every two decades, rather than every three years.

For the UK, the Keatinge studies show heat-related deaths caused by global warming will increase by 2,000. But cold-related deaths will decrease by 20,000. The only global study suggests that this is true internationally: by 2050, there will be almost 400,000 more heat-related deaths a year, and almost 1.8 million fewer cold-related deaths. Warmer temperatures will save 1.4 million lives each year. The number of saved lives will outweigh the increase in heat-related deaths until at least 2200.

 

[jc456]

Yes. The warmer object loses heat more slowly if a cooler,

Can you prove that?

Link some experiment where that test was performed.

than it would with nothing nearby.

There will always be something nearby unless it was in a blackhole.

Nope. It emits at the same rate, but receives power back from the cooler object.

Well emitting is how it cools off, so your response makes no sense.

They emit at different rates. I've always said that.

As such, makes the warmer object dominate. The photon emitted by the cooler will not affect the warmer object and it is what you’ve never been able to validate.

Hence, no back radiation.

Because the cooler object is also emitting....toward the warmer object.

And has no affect.

Yup. So?

Yup and so?

So basically, the cooler atmosphere speeds up the release of heat from the surface.

Nope.

Yep see my response below about lack of moisture.

A heat-sink, in your computer, for instance, is a piece of metal that conducts heat away,

How does it do that? I’ll tell you, it’s cooler and it emits fast.

The cold atmosphere draws the heat from the surface. Or are you denying warm air moves to cold

How much heat does the atmosphere conduct away from the Earth's surface?

Look at the lapse rate. Look what happens when there is no moisture in the air. It gets cold really quick when the sun goes down.

Can you prove that?

Look up Stefan-Boltzmann. It was known over 130 years ago.

As such, makes the warmer object dominate.

Yes, the warmer object emits more, that's why it cools, even though it is getting energy from the cooler object.
That's how Stefan-Boltzmann works....with no violation of the 2nd Law.

The photon emitted by the cooler will not affect the warmer object

Every photon absorbed by an object affects it.

Hence, no back radiation.

DERP!

How does it do that?

How does a conductor conduct? By conduction.
Air is not a very good conductor. You can look it up.

The cold atmosphere draws the heat from the surface.

Like suction? LOL!
Is that why the Moon's surface at night is cooler than the Earth's surface?
No atmosphere draws heat away even faster than atmosphere?

Look what happens when there is no moisture in the air. It gets cold really quick when the sun goes down.

No water vapor to absorb IR from the surface and re-emit to the surface.

Look up Stefan-Boltzmann. It was known over 130 years ago.

Why, that isn’t proof. Provide the test that verifies it.


Yes, the warmer object emits more, that's why it cools, even though it is getting energy from the cooler object. That's how Stefan-Boltzmann works....with no violation of the 2nd Law.

Why does it emit more just because it is warm?

Yes it would violate the 2nd law, been discussed forever in here. Still no evidence to your point. Still waiting.

Every photon absorbed by an object affects it.

Nope, wrong, the temperature from where it came and the fact that it is emitted more than once weakens it.

DERP!

Back at ya.

How does a conductor conduct? By conduction.
Air is not a very good conductor. You can look it up.

CO2 is though.

Like suction?
nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

Is that why the Moon's surface at night is cooler than the Earth's surface?
no moisture correct.

No atmosphere draws heat away even faster than atmosphere?
huh?

No water vapor to absorb IR from the surface and re-emit to the surface.
to hold the heat in by conduction, convection and gravity. yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't, but it doesn't use the IR to re-emit as heat. that isn't possible. and you can't validate that either.

Why, that isn’t proof. Provide the test that verifies it.

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!

Why does it emit more just because it is warm?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

Yes it would violate the 2nd law, been discussed forever in here.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

Nope, wrong, the temperature from where it came and the fact that it is emitted more than once weakens it

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

CO2 is though.

CO2 is a good conductor?

nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

What force is forcing heat upward?

no moisture correct.

Water vapor is a green house gas?

yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't, but it doesn't use the IR to re-emit as heat.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!
Too funny. So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

It is.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

And you can’t prove me wrong.

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

It’s called reemitted. Look it up.

CO2 is a good conductor?

It is.

What force is forcing heat upward?

heat

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

It’s called reemitted.

A reemitted photon doesn't affect an object that absorbs it? Why not?

nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

You'll have to explain this "force acting upon heat".
Sounds like something you made up.

heat

Heat is a force? Why do you feel that?

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

But...yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't

^
You admitted it right there. Are you off your meds?

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

We're not talking about heat, we're talking about IR.
Don't get (more) mixed up.

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

Yeah you having no evidence.

It’s called reemitted.

A reemitted photon doesn't affect an object that absorbs it? Why not?

You should read.

Heat is a force? Why do you feel that?

Helps a rocket take off.

Water vapor is a green house gas?

no

But...yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It does, and there is no heat

We're not talking about heat, we're talking about IR.
you said it was heat. No it is not. I’m talking about heat. Conduction and convection

 

[jc456]

Look up Stefan-Boltzmann. It was known over 130 years ago.

Why, that isn’t proof. Provide the test that verifies it.


Yes, the warmer object emits more, that's why it cools, even though it is getting energy from the cooler object. That's how Stefan-Boltzmann works....with no violation of the 2nd Law.

Why does it emit more just because it is warm?

Yes it would violate the 2nd law, been discussed forever in here. Still no evidence to your point. Still waiting.

Every photon absorbed by an object affects it.

Nope, wrong, the temperature from where it came and the fact that it is emitted more than once weakens it.

DERP!

Back at ya.

How does a conductor conduct? By conduction.
Air is not a very good conductor. You can look it up.

CO2 is though.

Like suction?
nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

Is that why the Moon's surface at night is cooler than the Earth's surface?
no moisture correct.

No atmosphere draws heat away even faster than atmosphere?
huh?

No water vapor to absorb IR from the surface and re-emit to the surface.
to hold the heat in by conduction, convection and gravity. yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't, but it doesn't use the IR to re-emit as heat. that isn't possible. and you can't validate that either.

Why, that isn’t proof. Provide the test that verifies it.

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!

Why does it emit more just because it is warm?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

Yes it would violate the 2nd law, been discussed forever in here.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

Nope, wrong, the temperature from where it came and the fact that it is emitted more than once weakens it

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

CO2 is though.

CO2 is a good conductor?

nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

What force is forcing heat upward?

no moisture correct.

Water vapor is a green house gas?

yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't, but it doesn't use the IR to re-emit as heat.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!
Too funny. So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

It is.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

And you can’t prove me wrong.

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

It’s called reemitted. Look it up.

CO2 is a good conductor?

It is.

What force is forcing heat upward?

heat

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

Water vapor is THE dominant greenhouse gas on this planet. You need to look that one up dude.

No such thing as greenhouse gas. There is no evidence of such a thing.

Yes, there is, the mechanism of what they do is undefined currently but greenhouse gases are well established.

dude, you have no evidence. you even admit it.

 

[Divine Wind]

Global warming means an endless summer of tube tops and short shorts.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Can you prove that?

Look up Stefan-Boltzmann. It was known over 130 years ago.

As such, makes the warmer object dominate.

Yes, the warmer object emits more, that's why it cools, even though it is getting energy from the cooler object.
That's how Stefan-Boltzmann works....with no violation of the 2nd Law.

The photon emitted by the cooler will not affect the warmer object

Every photon absorbed by an object affects it.

Hence, no back radiation.

DERP!

How does it do that?

How does a conductor conduct? By conduction.
Air is not a very good conductor. You can look it up.

The cold atmosphere draws the heat from the surface.

Like suction? LOL!
Is that why the Moon's surface at night is cooler than the Earth's surface?
No atmosphere draws heat away even faster than atmosphere?

Look what happens when there is no moisture in the air. It gets cold really quick when the sun goes down.

No water vapor to absorb IR from the surface and re-emit to the surface.

Look up Stefan-Boltzmann. It was known over 130 years ago.

Why, that isn’t proof. Provide the test that verifies it.


Yes, the warmer object emits more, that's why it cools, even though it is getting energy from the cooler object. That's how Stefan-Boltzmann works....with no violation of the 2nd Law.

Why does it emit more just because it is warm?

Yes it would violate the 2nd law, been discussed forever in here. Still no evidence to your point. Still waiting.

Every photon absorbed by an object affects it.

Nope, wrong, the temperature from where it came and the fact that it is emitted more than once weakens it.

DERP!

Back at ya.

How does a conductor conduct? By conduction.
Air is not a very good conductor. You can look it up.

CO2 is though.

Like suction?
nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

Is that why the Moon's surface at night is cooler than the Earth's surface?
no moisture correct.

No atmosphere draws heat away even faster than atmosphere?
huh?

No water vapor to absorb IR from the surface and re-emit to the surface.
to hold the heat in by conduction, convection and gravity. yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't, but it doesn't use the IR to re-emit as heat. that isn't possible. and you can't validate that either.

Why, that isn’t proof. Provide the test that verifies it.

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!

Why does it emit more just because it is warm?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

Yes it would violate the 2nd law, been discussed forever in here.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

Nope, wrong, the temperature from where it came and the fact that it is emitted more than once weakens it

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

CO2 is though.

CO2 is a good conductor?

nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

What force is forcing heat upward?

no moisture correct.

Water vapor is a green house gas?

yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't, but it doesn't use the IR to re-emit as heat.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!
Too funny. So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

It is.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

And you can’t prove me wrong.

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

It’s called reemitted. Look it up.

CO2 is a good conductor?

It is.

What force is forcing heat upward?

heat

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

It’s called reemitted.

A reemitted photon doesn't affect an object that absorbs it? Why not?

nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

You'll have to explain this "force acting upon heat".
Sounds like something you made up.

heat

Heat is a force? Why do you feel that?

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

But...yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't

^
You admitted it right there. Are you off your meds?

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

We're not talking about heat, we're talking about IR.
Don't get (more) mixed up.

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

Yeah you having no evidence.

It’s called reemitted.

A reemitted photon doesn't affect an object that absorbs it? Why not?

You should read.

Heat is a force? Why do you feel that?

Helps a rocket take off.

Water vapor is a green house gas?

no

But...yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It does, and there is no heat

We're not talking about heat, we're talking about IR.
you said it was heat. No it is not. I’m talking about heat. Conduction and convection

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

Yeah you having no evidence.

I don't need to prove Stefan-Boltzmann, it's widely accepted.
Don't let that stop you from disproving it though.......

You should read.

I have. That's why your claim is so ridiculous.

Helps a rocket take off.

Heat helps a rocket take off? You are off your meds.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It does, and there is no heat

Water vapor absorbs and emits IR? Excellent!
You've just described a greenhouse gas.

you said it was heat.

Stop using heat and IR interchangeably. It makes you sound ignorant.

I’m talking about heat. Conduction and convection

The discussion is about IR, not conduction and convection. Try to keep up.
It's no wonder why your answers are all wrong.

 

[jc456]

Look up Stefan-Boltzmann. It was known over 130 years ago.

Why, that isn’t proof. Provide the test that verifies it.


Yes, the warmer object emits more, that's why it cools, even though it is getting energy from the cooler object. That's how Stefan-Boltzmann works....with no violation of the 2nd Law.

Why does it emit more just because it is warm?

Yes it would violate the 2nd law, been discussed forever in here. Still no evidence to your point. Still waiting.

Every photon absorbed by an object affects it.

Nope, wrong, the temperature from where it came and the fact that it is emitted more than once weakens it.

DERP!

Back at ya.

How does a conductor conduct? By conduction.
Air is not a very good conductor. You can look it up.

CO2 is though.

Like suction?
nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

Is that why the Moon's surface at night is cooler than the Earth's surface?
no moisture correct.

No atmosphere draws heat away even faster than atmosphere?
huh?

No water vapor to absorb IR from the surface and re-emit to the surface.
to hold the heat in by conduction, convection and gravity. yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't, but it doesn't use the IR to re-emit as heat. that isn't possible. and you can't validate that either.

Why, that isn’t proof. Provide the test that verifies it.

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!

Why does it emit more just because it is warm?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

Yes it would violate the 2nd law, been discussed forever in here.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

Nope, wrong, the temperature from where it came and the fact that it is emitted more than once weakens it

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

CO2 is though.

CO2 is a good conductor?

nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

What force is forcing heat upward?

no moisture correct.

Water vapor is a green house gas?

yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't, but it doesn't use the IR to re-emit as heat.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!
Too funny. So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

It is.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

And you can’t prove me wrong.

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

It’s called reemitted. Look it up.

CO2 is a good conductor?

It is.

What force is forcing heat upward?

heat

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

It’s called reemitted.

A reemitted photon doesn't affect an object that absorbs it? Why not?

nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

You'll have to explain this "force acting upon heat".
Sounds like something you made up.

heat

Heat is a force? Why do you feel that?

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

But...yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't

^
You admitted it right there. Are you off your meds?

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

We're not talking about heat, we're talking about IR.
Don't get (more) mixed up.

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

Yeah you having no evidence.

It’s called reemitted.

A reemitted photon doesn't affect an object that absorbs it? Why not?

You should read.

Heat is a force? Why do you feel that?

Helps a rocket take off.

Water vapor is a green house gas?

no

But...yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It does, and there is no heat

We're not talking about heat, we're talking about IR.
you said it was heat. No it is not. I’m talking about heat. Conduction and convection

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

Yeah you having no evidence.

I don't need to prove Stefan-Boltzmann, it's widely accepted.
Don't let that stop you from disproving it though.......

You should read.

I have. That's why your claim is so ridiculous.

Helps a rocket take off.

Heat helps a rocket take off? You are off your meds.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It does, and there is no heat

Water vapor absorbs and emits IR? Excellent!
You've just described a greenhouse gas.

you said it was heat.

Stop using heat and IR interchangeably. It makes you sound ignorant.

I’m talking about heat. Conduction and convection

The discussion is about IR, not conduction and convection. Try to keep up.
It's no wonder why your answers are all wrong.

Don't let that stop you from disproving it though.......
you can’t show evidence of it I understand. Please don’t think that’s going to stop me.


I have. That's why your claim is so ridiculous.

I see you have no test evidence I get it.

Heat helps a rocket take off? You are off your meds.

I’ve never seen ice under a rocket. So yeah it does.

You should take some meds.

You've just described a greenhouse gas.

No such thing, but keep writing it. Doesn’t it make it so.

Stop using heat and IR interchangeably. It makes you sound ignorant.

You said it not me.

The discussion is about IR, not conduction and convection. Try to keep up.
It’s about how the earth stays heated. And heat is what keeps the earth heated

 

[Divine Wind]

Global Warming means billions of dollars saved in transportations costs and lives saved in ice/snow related traffic deaths.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Global warming means an endless summer of tube tops and short shorts.

Crick and the rest can't figure out warm is good cold sucks...move up to damn Chicago..


.

 

[westwall]

Why, that isn’t proof. Provide the test that verifies it.

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!

Why does it emit more just because it is warm?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

Yes it would violate the 2nd law, been discussed forever in here.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

Nope, wrong, the temperature from where it came and the fact that it is emitted more than once weakens it

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

CO2 is though.

CO2 is a good conductor?

nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

What force is forcing heat upward?

no moisture correct.

Water vapor is a green house gas?

yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't, but it doesn't use the IR to re-emit as heat.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!
Too funny. So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

It is.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

And you can’t prove me wrong.

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

It’s called reemitted. Look it up.

CO2 is a good conductor?

It is.

What force is forcing heat upward?

heat

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

Water vapor is THE dominant greenhouse gas on this planet. You need to look that one up dude.

No such thing as greenhouse gas. There is no evidence of such a thing.

Yes, there is, the mechanism of what they do is undefined currently but greenhouse gases are well established.

dude, you have no evidence. you even admit it.

No. We KNOW that GHG's exist. To date however, there has been no real lab experiments to actually decipher their operation.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Global Warming means billions of dollars saved in transportations costs and lives saved in ice/snow related traffic deaths.

Not to mention the economy and school days lost- hey I thought liberals liked education?

What about the rusty cars?

Damn if I was president I would send all the AGW cult crowd to Antarctica for a year

 

[jc456]

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!
Too funny. So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

It is.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

And you can’t prove me wrong.

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

It’s called reemitted. Look it up.

CO2 is a good conductor?

It is.

What force is forcing heat upward?

heat

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

Water vapor is THE dominant greenhouse gas on this planet. You need to look that one up dude.

No such thing as greenhouse gas. There is no evidence of such a thing.

Yes, there is, the mechanism of what they do is undefined currently but greenhouse gases are well established.

dude, you have no evidence. you even admit it.

No. We KNOW that GHG's exist. To date however, there has been no real lab experiments to actually decipher their operation.

And until that happens, I'm a non believer

 

[Divine Wind]

Did I already mention the advantages of an endless summer?

 

[Divine Wind]

God Bless America!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why, that isn’t proof. Provide the test that verifies it.

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!

Why does it emit more just because it is warm?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

Yes it would violate the 2nd law, been discussed forever in here.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

Nope, wrong, the temperature from where it came and the fact that it is emitted more than once weakens it

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

CO2 is though.

CO2 is a good conductor?

nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

What force is forcing heat upward?

no moisture correct.

Water vapor is a green house gas?

yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't, but it doesn't use the IR to re-emit as heat.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!
Too funny. So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

It is.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

And you can’t prove me wrong.

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

It’s called reemitted. Look it up.

CO2 is a good conductor?

It is.

What force is forcing heat upward?

heat

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

It’s called reemitted.

A reemitted photon doesn't affect an object that absorbs it? Why not?

nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

You'll have to explain this "force acting upon heat".
Sounds like something you made up.

heat

Heat is a force? Why do you feel that?

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

But...yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't

^
You admitted it right there. Are you off your meds?

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

We're not talking about heat, we're talking about IR.
Don't get (more) mixed up.

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

Yeah you having no evidence.

It’s called reemitted.

A reemitted photon doesn't affect an object that absorbs it? Why not?

You should read.

Heat is a force? Why do you feel that?

Helps a rocket take off.

Water vapor is a green house gas?

no

But...yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It does, and there is no heat

We're not talking about heat, we're talking about IR.
you said it was heat. No it is not. I’m talking about heat. Conduction and convection

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

Yeah you having no evidence.

I don't need to prove Stefan-Boltzmann, it's widely accepted.
Don't let that stop you from disproving it though.......

You should read.

I have. That's why your claim is so ridiculous.

Helps a rocket take off.

Heat helps a rocket take off? You are off your meds.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It does, and there is no heat

Water vapor absorbs and emits IR? Excellent!
You've just described a greenhouse gas.

you said it was heat.

Stop using heat and IR interchangeably. It makes you sound ignorant.

I’m talking about heat. Conduction and convection

The discussion is about IR, not conduction and convection. Try to keep up.
It's no wonder why your answers are all wrong.

Don't let that stop you from disproving it though.......
you can’t show evidence of it I understand. Please don’t think that’s going to stop me.


I have. That's why your claim is so ridiculous.

I see you have no test evidence I get it.

Heat helps a rocket take off? You are off your meds.

I’ve never seen ice under a rocket. So yeah it does.

You should take some meds.

You've just described a greenhouse gas.

No such thing, but keep writing it. Doesn’t it make it so.

Stop using heat and IR interchangeably. It makes you sound ignorant.

You said it not me.

The discussion is about IR, not conduction and convection. Try to keep up.
It’s about how the earth stays heated. And heat is what keeps the earth heated

you can’t show evidence of it I understand.

Yeah, I'm not interested in proving widely acknowledged facts.

I’ve never seen ice under a rocket. So yeah it does.

What kind of force does heat exert?

No such thing, but keep writing it.

You said water vapor absorbs and emits IR. What do you think a greenhouse gas does? LOL!

You said it not me.

I never said they were interchangeable. Not even once.

It’s about how the earth stays heated.

Pesky greenhouse gasses.

And heat is what keeps the earth heated

Define heat.

 

[IanC]

JC456 just keeps getting stupider and stupider. he's not even trying to make sense any more.

ordinarily I would just find it pathetic but in this case he is besmirching the Skeptical Side's reputation with his lunacy.

 

[jc456]

Perform a test that disproves it, you'll be famous!
Too funny. So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

Yes, warmer objects emit more. Pretty basic stuff

It is.

Your feelings are well known, that's why we mock you.

And you can’t prove me wrong.

What is a "weakened photon"? Is that like a smart photon?

It’s called reemitted. Look it up.

CO2 is a good conductor?

It is.

What force is forcing heat upward?

heat

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

So you have no evidence, thanks for playing?

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

It’s called reemitted.

A reemitted photon doesn't affect an object that absorbs it? Why not?

nope heat being forced upward to the cold heat-sink

You'll have to explain this "force acting upon heat".
Sounds like something you made up.

heat

Heat is a force? Why do you feel that?

Water vapor is a green house gas?

No it isn’t, no such thing. You can’t prove it.

But...yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't

^
You admitted it right there. Are you off your meds?

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It’s not heat.

We're not talking about heat, we're talking about IR.
Don't get (more) mixed up.

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

Yeah you having no evidence.

It’s called reemitted.

A reemitted photon doesn't affect an object that absorbs it? Why not?

You should read.

Heat is a force? Why do you feel that?

Helps a rocket take off.

Water vapor is a green house gas?

no

But...yes water will absorb the IR, never said it didn't

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It does, and there is no heat

We're not talking about heat, we're talking about IR.
you said it was heat. No it is not. I’m talking about heat. Conduction and convection

If you have an issue with Stefan-Boltzmann, show your evidence.

Yeah you having no evidence.

I don't need to prove Stefan-Boltzmann, it's widely accepted.
Don't let that stop you from disproving it though.......

You should read.

I have. That's why your claim is so ridiculous.

Helps a rocket take off.

Heat helps a rocket take off? You are off your meds.

It absorbs IR, why can't it emit IR?

It does, and there is no heat

Water vapor absorbs and emits IR? Excellent!
You've just described a greenhouse gas.

you said it was heat.

Stop using heat and IR interchangeably. It makes you sound ignorant.

I’m talking about heat. Conduction and convection

The discussion is about IR, not conduction and convection. Try to keep up.
It's no wonder why your answers are all wrong.

Don't let that stop you from disproving it though.......
you can’t show evidence of it I understand. Please don’t think that’s going to stop me.


I have. That's why your claim is so ridiculous.

I see you have no test evidence I get it.

Heat helps a rocket take off? You are off your meds.

I’ve never seen ice under a rocket. So yeah it does.

You should take some meds.

You've just described a greenhouse gas.

No such thing, but keep writing it. Doesn’t it make it so.

Stop using heat and IR interchangeably. It makes you sound ignorant.

You said it not me.

The discussion is about IR, not conduction and convection. Try to keep up.
It’s about how the earth stays heated. And heat is what keeps the earth heated

you can’t show evidence of it I understand.

Yeah, I'm not interested in proving widely acknowledged facts.

I’ve never seen ice under a rocket. So yeah it does.

What kind of force does heat exert?

No such thing, but keep writing it.

You said water vapor absorbs and emits IR. What do you think a greenhouse gas does? LOL!

You said it not me.

I never said they were interchangeable. Not even once.

It’s about how the earth stays heated.

Pesky greenhouse gasses.

And heat is what keeps the earth heated

Define heat.

Yeah, I'm not interested in proving widely acknowledged facts.
you can’t show evidence of it I understand.

What kind of force does heat exert?
you should watch a rocket take off

You said water vapor absorbs and emits IR. What do you think a greenhouse gas does?
A greenhouse doesn’t use gas, so I have no idea your point.
No such thing, but keep writing it.

I never said they were interchangeable. Not even once.
I never made that comment either. I stated you claimed IR was heat. Here’s the quote.

Gases in the atmosphere absorbing and re-radiating IR? Are you sure?

The gases mix with H2O and the convection and conduction process

The gases mix with H2O and the convection and conduction process

I'll take, "What are things that don't have anything to do with radiation?" for $500 Alex.

so can you feel the atmosphere? just curious if you think you do or not.

When you're in a room is there CO2 present? is it touching you?

so can you feel the atmosphere?

Yes, I feel the atmosphere every day.
What does that have to do with your confusion about radiation?

When you're in a room is there CO2 present? is it touching you?

Yes. Yes.

so you feel heat or cold, heat is not radiation so you have no evidence of anything.

so you feel heat

Yes, I can feel IR. Can't you?

heat is not radiation

Why do you feel that?

Pesky greenhouse gasses.
pesky sun, gravity, conduction, convection

Define heat...
Intensity of feeling

 

[jc456]

JC456 just keeps getting stupider and stupider. he's not even trying to make sense any more.

ordinarily I would just find it pathetic but in this case he is besmirching the Skeptical Side's reputation with his lunacy.

funny you can't show evidence from a lab experiment IR emitting from CO2 and heating anything.

 

[Divine Wind]

funny you can't show evidence from a lab experiment IR emitting from CO2 and heating anything.

CO2, O2, H2O nor any other molecule of which I am aware emits heat by itself. It can emit heat in the formation of that molecule or, if heat is applied, there are properties that could cause it it reflect or retain heat.

The "greenhouse" effect of a car's glass is evident to anyone who has opened up a car that has been sitting in the sunlight. It's not the glass causing the heat. If it was, then it would heat even in shadow. It's the properties of the light passing through the glass and heating up materials inside.

 

[jc456]

funny you can't show evidence from a lab experiment IR emitting from CO2 and heating anything.

CO2, O2, H2O nor any other molecule of which I am aware emits heat by itself. It can emit heat in the formation of that molecule or, if heat is applied, there are properties that could cause it it reflect or retain heat.

The "greenhouse" effect of a car's glass is evident to anyone who has opened up a car that has been sitting in the sunlight. It's not the glass causing the heat. If it was, then it would heat even in shadow. It's the properties of the light passing through the glass and heating up materials inside.

yep, and color of material matter to aggravate that. yep, I just want to see the test with CO2. that's all. four years in this forum and still not one test provided. BTW, the fact that it gets hotter with the windows closed matters as well. That is a greenhouse effect.

 

[Divine Wind]

yep, and color of material matter to aggravate that. yep, I just want to see the test with CO2. that's all. four years in this forum and still not one test provided. BTW, the fact that it gets hotter with the windows closed matters as well. That is a greenhouse effect.

Correct about the color of material, which is why different parts of the Earth heat up faster than others. Why plowed dirt absorbs heat, but snow reflects it.

It's our atmosphere which keeps us warm. Venus has a "runaway" greenhouse effect while the atmosphere on Mars is too thin to retain much heat.

In the past, however, greenhouse gasses did help warm up Mars enough for water to flow....however, not CO2 as this article explains:

Global Warming Once Made Mars a Very Pleasant Place—Until it Didn't