forkintheroad7
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I have read up on this issue and am still researching, which means I only have a few conclusions at this point.
It appears to be a complex issue, probably because it is human nature to complicate things? I dunno. But in any case, I think I "know" the following:
Apparently, in Catholic teaching (the original teachings, NOT what is falsely being taught today by many clergy including the [supposed] pope), even if a pope is thought to be a notorious heretic (has not kept his heresy secret), he can only be deposed if he walks away from the papacy. Actually, I am not even sure that is correct because I don't really trust the authors of the material I am reading.
I am reading the material on this because the Sedevacantists believe one thing about how to deal with a heretical pope and the novus ordo people believe something else. So far, I am not clear on what makes the most sense (who is right). I'd have to research authentically-Catholic literature to attain perfect understanding.
However, there is this: The person who wrote the material says that people in the CIMRI Church (Sedevacantists) are not Catholic!
That is not true! The person who wrote the material seems to think he has to steer people away from the Sedevacantist position, and apparently thinks he may have to go to the point of being dishonest. It's like he is saying "Don't be a Sede or you will be called a schismatic or "un-Catholic." I have been in the CIMRI Church and it is a traditional CATHOLIC Church, using missals from 1962...
So I tend to think the writer of the material I am wading through is dishonest... which makes me not want to bother w/ the un-read parts.
But it does kind of make sense that the pope (alleged pope) cannot easily be removed.
In any case, we were all, fortunately, given a brain, so we don't need to listen to "popes" who teach anti-Catholic nonsense
It appears to be a complex issue, probably because it is human nature to complicate things? I dunno. But in any case, I think I "know" the following:
Apparently, in Catholic teaching (the original teachings, NOT what is falsely being taught today by many clergy including the [supposed] pope), even if a pope is thought to be a notorious heretic (has not kept his heresy secret), he can only be deposed if he walks away from the papacy. Actually, I am not even sure that is correct because I don't really trust the authors of the material I am reading.
I am reading the material on this because the Sedevacantists believe one thing about how to deal with a heretical pope and the novus ordo people believe something else. So far, I am not clear on what makes the most sense (who is right). I'd have to research authentically-Catholic literature to attain perfect understanding.
However, there is this: The person who wrote the material says that people in the CIMRI Church (Sedevacantists) are not Catholic!
That is not true! The person who wrote the material seems to think he has to steer people away from the Sedevacantist position, and apparently thinks he may have to go to the point of being dishonest. It's like he is saying "Don't be a Sede or you will be called a schismatic or "un-Catholic." I have been in the CIMRI Church and it is a traditional CATHOLIC Church, using missals from 1962...
So I tend to think the writer of the material I am wading through is dishonest... which makes me not want to bother w/ the un-read parts.
But it does kind of make sense that the pope (alleged pope) cannot easily be removed.
In any case, we were all, fortunately, given a brain, so we don't need to listen to "popes" who teach anti-Catholic nonsense