What should Zelensky do next? Apologize......and make the deal to save his country.

[1srelluc]

You seem to think trump's 1.5% win was historical. In a sense it was. 1.5% is one of the smallest amounts for any president to have won an election.

Don't stop believing. In fact, don't change a thing.

 

[BULLDOG]

And there are US ICBMs in Wyoming, but it doesn't mean that official Cheyenne control them. May be, in the case of peaceful secession of Wyoming, Washington will be ready to sign some meaningless papers for peaceful removal of those silos, but it doesn't mean that Cheyenne can really blackmail Washington with them, even less - that American people might allow Cheyenne people (however independent) to commit raids against White American towns in now-independent Wyoming.

What a childishly goofy remark.

 

[BULLDOG]

Well you see here is the big difference between you and me. I am not a big fan of people dying in war. I am even less of a fan of those making a profit off building the means to kill others in war. But I especially hate anyone that would line their pockets with aid that was meant to help a country and its people. It seems as if you like all those things.
The Biden administration did not just make an accusation they publicly stated that they gave Ukraine that money.
Zelensky says that Ukraine never got that much. It was not an accusation it was stated as fact. But you really do not care who is making a profit. You do not care how many people die. You only care about how the democrat cult can make the republican cult look bad.

Biden never said we gave that much. Come up with some proof of wrong doing, and we can talk. I'm sure you'll find the same amount of proof as you found about that election being stolen. Exactly none.

 

[Maxdeath]

Biden never said we gave that much. Come up with some proof of wrong doing, and we can talk. I'm sure you'll find the same amount of proof as you found about that election being stolen. Exactly none.

You really have drunk the koolaid. Look it up kid. While Zelensky claims the Ukraine got a lot less and he was the one that claimed it was due to corruption in the U.S.
But hey defend corruption and killing all you want

 

[Maxdeath]

Biden never said we gave that much. Come up with some proof of wrong doing, and we can talk. I'm sure you'll find the same amount of proof as you found about that election being stolen. Exactly none.

Try this on for size. Of course I do not really expect you to read it or care.

Ukraine has received less than half of US assistance allocated during full-scale war, Zelensky says

Zelensky implied that half of U.S. assistance was "lost" due to corruption or lobbying from the side of U.S. companies. Ukraine's head of state said this in response to Fridman's question about corruption concerns in Ukraine.

www.yahoo.com

 

[BULLDOG]

Try this on for size. Of course I do not really expect you to read it or care.

Ukraine has received less than half of US assistance allocated during full-scale war, Zelensky says

Zelensky implied that half of U.S. assistance was "lost" due to corruption or lobbying from the side of U.S. companies. Ukraine's head of state said this in response to Fridman's question about corruption concerns in Ukraine.

www.yahoo.com

Sure, I read it, and he makes sense. If we give him a dollar's worth of weapons, but charge him 50 cents for delivery, he still just got a dollar's worth of weapons. Perhaps musk could figure out where the waste is in that transaction.

 

[Cellblock2429]

This is exactly right...

Second, in the (likely) event that Europe is 100% talk and 0% action, Zelenskyy better start groveling ASAP. ( Europe is all talk....they are not going to send one soldier to help Ukraine.)

He should schedule a return meeting at the White House at Trump’s earliest convenience. Then, Zelenskyy should show up — on time! — with a clean shave, wearing a tuxedo. (Hell, he should bring a bouquet of flowers for the First Lady while he’s at it.)

And he should apologize.

There’s nothing shameful about saying you’re sorry. All Zelenskyy has to say is something like, “I’m so passionate about my country; sometimes my emotions get the better of me. Over the last three years, I’ve consoled so many mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters — and some of their stories are so tragic and haunting, it’s heartbreaking. But I know I must keep my emotions in check; not just for the good of my people, but for the good of all people. Mr. President, I apologize for my behavior in the White House. Ukraine is grateful, thankful, and appreciative of America’s generosity. War is hell, and if there’s a chance to stop the killing, it’s absolutely worth pursuing.”
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There’s a liberal theory that Trump and Vance planned this “ambush” of Zelenskyy, hoping to embarrass the Ukrainian leader on national TV. This is complete and utter nonsense: Trump wants to be known as a great dealmaker. He didn’t want to embarrass Zelenskyy; he wanted him to sign a deal.

Trump still does.

In a weird way, if he could get Zelenskyy to sign to a deal after this high-octane kerfuffle, it would be an even greater accomplishment. Which means that Zelenskyy will probably get another bite at the apple.

He better not blow it.

Because I don’t think he’ll get a third.

So What Should Zelenskyy Do Now?

pjmedia.com

/—-/ It looks like The midget was rude to Joe as well. No outrage from the Left so far.
Trump isn't the first US commander in chief to lose patience with Zelenskyy: resurfaced 2022 report
Trump isn't the first US commander in chief to lose patience with Zelenskyy: resurfaced 2022 report

 

[Maxdeath]

Sure, I read it, and he makes sense. If we give him a dollar's worth of weapons, but charge him 50 cents for delivery, he still just got a dollar's worth of weapons. Perhaps musk could figure out where the waste is in that transaction.

Ha ha. You really are a good cultist. I guess I really never did expect you to have a decent conversation, especially if it might make your cult look bad

 

[Rawley]

You seem to think trump's 1.5% win was historical. In a sense it was. 1.5% is one of the smallest amounts for any president to have won an election.

Other than Clintons' two elections.

 

[yidnar]

That's stupid. Nuclear weapons proliferation is a world problem. We should honor our treaty.

so its a good thing that Clinton convinced Ukraine to give up their weapons eh ? wonder how much Russia donated to the Clinton foundation ?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

This is exactly right...

Second, in the (likely) event that Europe is 100% talk and 0% action, Zelenskyy better start groveling ASAP. ( Europe is all talk....they are not going to send one soldier to help Ukraine.)

He should schedule a return meeting at the White House at Trump’s earliest convenience. Then, Zelenskyy should show up — on time! — with a clean shave, wearing a tuxedo. (Hell, he should bring a bouquet of flowers for the First Lady while he’s at it.)

And he should apologize.

There’s nothing shameful about saying you’re sorry. All Zelenskyy has to say is something like, “I’m so passionate about my country; sometimes my emotions get the better of me. Over the last three years, I’ve consoled so many mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters — and some of their stories are so tragic and haunting, it’s heartbreaking. But I know I must keep my emotions in check; not just for the good of my people, but for the good of all people. Mr. President, I apologize for my behavior in the White House. Ukraine is grateful, thankful, and appreciative of America’s generosity. War is hell, and if there’s a chance to stop the killing, it’s absolutely worth pursuing.”
--------
There’s a liberal theory that Trump and Vance planned this “ambush” of Zelenskyy, hoping to embarrass the Ukrainian leader on national TV. This is complete and utter nonsense: Trump wants to be known as a great dealmaker. He didn’t want to embarrass Zelenskyy; he wanted him to sign a deal.

Trump still does.

In a weird way, if he could get Zelenskyy to sign to a deal after this high-octane kerfuffle, it would be an even greater accomplishment. Which means that Zelenskyy will probably get another bite at the apple.

He better not blow it.

Because I don’t think he’ll get a third.

So What Should Zelenskyy Do Now?

pjmedia.com

Zelensky explain his thought process

 

[Missourian]

Nope! The Europeans were the ones who told the Zalensky to keep fighting! They own it now.
Americans are smelly anyway! Nobody wants them around.... Our presence is not wanted and our money is not needed.... I mean they just got done spending two days saying this!

^^^^This time 177 billion.

Ukraine is Europe's problem now.

 

[Crepitus]

This is exactly right...

Second, in the (likely) event that Europe is 100% talk and 0% action, Zelenskyy better start groveling ASAP. ( Europe is all talk....they are not going to send one soldier to help Ukraine.)

He should schedule a return meeting at the White House at Trump’s earliest convenience. Then, Zelenskyy should show up — on time! — with a clean shave, wearing a tuxedo. (Hell, he should bring a bouquet of flowers for the First Lady while he’s at it.)

And he should apologize.

There’s nothing shameful about saying you’re sorry. All Zelenskyy has to say is something like, “I’m so passionate about my country; sometimes my emotions get the better of me. Over the last three years, I’ve consoled so many mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters — and some of their stories are so tragic and haunting, it’s heartbreaking. But I know I must keep my emotions in check; not just for the good of my people, but for the good of all people. Mr. President, I apologize for my behavior in the White House. Ukraine is grateful, thankful, and appreciative of America’s generosity. War is hell, and if there’s a chance to stop the killing, it’s absolutely worth pursuing.”
--------
There’s a liberal theory that Trump and Vance planned this “ambush” of Zelenskyy, hoping to embarrass the Ukrainian leader on national TV. This is complete and utter nonsense: Trump wants to be known as a great dealmaker. He didn’t want to embarrass Zelenskyy; he wanted him to sign a deal.

Trump still does.

In a weird way, if he could get Zelenskyy to sign to a deal after this high-octane kerfuffle, it would be an even greater accomplishment. Which means that Zelenskyy will probably get another bite at the apple.

He better not blow it.

Because I don’t think he’ll get a third.

So What Should Zelenskyy Do Now?

pjmedia.com

Apologize for what?

 

[Missourian]

Europe has paid as much as we have.

Fake news.

The EU has given Ukraine €19 Billion

They've paid €22 billion to Russia.

EU spends more on Russian oil and gas than financial aid to Ukraine – report

Europe estimated to have bought €22bn of fossil fuels from Russia in 2024 but gave €19bn to support Kyiv

www.theguardian.com

You never know shit from shinola but talk directly out of your ass in every post like it's fact.

 

[Missourian]

Treasury Secretary says Ukraine economic deal is not on the table after Zelenskyy "chose to blow that up"

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said an economic deal with Ukraine is not currently on the table after a contentious Oval Office meeting.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[toobfreak]

You seem to think trump's 1.5% win was historical. In a sense it was. 1.5% is one of the smallest amounts for any president to have won an election.

You dolt--- in 2016, you made a mountain out of Hillary winning the popular vote by 2%, now you claim it is small potatoes when Trump does it. And you outspent Trump 10:1. The thing is, Biden beat Trump in 2020 recording an historic vote count, so Trump should not be winning at all now, much less both winning AND taking the popular vote by a couple percent!

Proof again that 2020 was a fraud.

Worse, Trump won 2016 without the popular vote! Not by +1.5%, not by 0%, he won by -98%.

 

[BULLDOG]

Other than Clintons' two elections.

Bill Clinton beat Bush by 5.6% and Dole by 8.5%. trump's little 1.5% is tiny compared to Bill Clinton.

 

[BULLDOG]

You dolt--- in 2016, you made a mountain out of Hillary winning the popular vote by 2%, now you claim it is small potatoes when Trump does it. And you outspent Trump 10:1. The thing is, Biden beat Trump in 2020 recording an historic vote count, so Trump should not be winning at all now, much less both winning AND taking the popular vote by a couple percent!

Proof again that 2020 was a fraud.

Worse, Trump won 2016 without the popular vote! Not by +1.5%, not by 0%, he won by -98%.

2.1% is more than 1.5% Especially when you consider he didn't even win the popular vote against Hillary.

 

[IM2]

Fake news.

The EU has given Ukraine €19 Billion

They've paid €22 billion to Russia.

EU spends more on Russian oil and gas than financial aid to Ukraine – report

Europe estimated to have bought €22bn of fossil fuels from Russia in 2024 but gave €19bn to support Kyiv

www.theguardian.com

You never know shit from shinola but talk directly out of your ass in every post like it's fact.

You are wrong. As usual. EU has given 138 billion to Ukraine in support for the war. The US 139 billion. I was not talking about how much they pay for fossil fuels.

Idiot.

 

[BULLDOG]

You dolt--- in 2016, you made a mountain out of Hillary winning the popular vote by 2%, now you claim it is small potatoes when Trump does it. And you outspent Trump 10:1. The thing is, Biden beat Trump in 2020 recording an historic vote count, so Trump should not be winning at all now, much less both winning AND taking the popular vote by a couple percent!

Proof again that 2020 was a fraud.

Worse, Trump won 2016 without the popular vote! Not by +1.5%, not by 0%, he won by -98%.

In 2022 Kansas beat the Eagles. Using your logic there is no way the Eagles could have won this year.