What should happen to kids of illegal aliens being deported?

[Obiwan]

Another city or state is still part of the U.S.A, isn't it? It's not a third world shit hole. So how is it the same?

He's giving the example of American families moving from state to state. The children have no say in the move. My parents moved to 4 different states when I was a child. They never asked my permission.

I'm well aware of that. It's not a valid comparison. We aren't talking about a state to state move here.

Yes, it is a valid comparison. American families move without their children's permission. Sometimes it is state to state other times it's to another country,

Exactly. You see it on the show House Hunters International all the time. The parents decide they want to live outside our country or otherwise have to move overseas because of work. The kids have no choice but to go with them.

Exactly, the parents decide. Are you seeing the difference here? The government is making the decision here so you have the government kicking out American citizens with their parents or according to some of your comrades here we can throw them in an orphanage.

So, if the parents are breaking the law, you propose what? Criminal activity by harboring fugitives, a life of welfare and poverty when the parents can't get a job, or a fresh start at age 18?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

So what are you suggesting here? That we, the United States Citizens, change our entire immigration system because of the "children" so we don't have to feel bad?

No, we change it because it's the sensible thing to do. This country was built on immigration. A hundred years ago people were coming here on boats by the tens of thousands and we had them sign their name in a book and be on there way and I'd say everything turned out pretty damn good in the long term. Now we've made it so absurdly complicated and time consuming that people are skirting the law. Unless you're intent on applying brute force that's what happens.

Let me tell you something, I'm sick of changing for them. I'm sick of having to press 1 to speak our language. I'm sick of having to choose between an English ballot or Spanish ballot at the voting places. I'm sick of having to change for them.

Oh, you poor baby! You have to choose between two?? That must be so incredibly trying for you. Most countries in the world have more than one official language spoken. Go to Canada and you'll find everything in English and French. Go to Europe and you'll find things reprinted in many different languages. Last time I was in Barcelona I ate at a restaurant where I could choose the language of my menu. Why is it that if somehow we have two widely spoken languages in the U.S. instead of just English that suddenly mean shit's going to come crashing down? That's just your xenophobia speaking.

Hey! I was here first. It's about time you change for me--not the other way around.

Yeah, I'm guessing a lot of Native American Indian tribes are going to disagree with you on that one.

 

[bripat9643]

You do realize that we will have to hire more border guards and officers to do this?? That means more government and MORE tax dollars!!!! lol

To be taken out of the foreign aid going to the countries sending illegals. Tax remittances. We will likely turn a profit.

How much foreign aid is going to Latin America. Do you have numbers on this to determine this alleged profit?

A billion dollars a year.

What s in the Billion-Dollar Aid Request for Central America Washington Office on Latin America

Cut it off, tax remittances. End obama's temporary orders.

Yeah, well, Trump's plan has been estimated to cost as much as $200 billion. Do you intend to take 200 years to deport everyone?



Donald Trump s Deportation Plan Would Cost 100-200 Billion - NBC News

Illegals cost this country 1 billion EACH year.

The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers 2013

This report estimates the annual costs of illegal immigration at the federal, state and local level to be about $113 billion; nearly $29 billion at the federal level and $84 billion at the state and local level. The study also estimates tax collections from illegal alien workers, both those in the above-ground economy and those in the underground economy. Those receipts do not come close to the level of expenditures and, in any case, are misleading as an offset because over time unemployed and underemployed U.S. workers would replace illegal alien workers.​

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

They will go as a family. Trump doesn't want to break up families

-Geaux

You can't deport an American citizen.

They should NOT be considered as citizens.

If they're born here, they're a citizen, Sparky.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

He's giving the example of American families moving from state to state. The children have no say in the move. My parents moved to 4 different states when I was a child. They never asked my permission.

I'm well aware of that. It's not a valid comparison. We aren't talking about a state to state move here.

Yes, it is a valid comparison. American families move without their children's permission. Sometimes it is state to state other times it's to another country,

Exactly. You see it on the show House Hunters International all the time. The parents decide they want to live outside our country or otherwise have to move overseas because of work. The kids have no choice but to go with them.

Exactly, the parents decide. Are you seeing the difference here? The government is making the decision here so you have the government kicking out American citizens with their parents or according to some of your comrades here we can throw them in an orphanage.

So, if the parents are breaking the law, you propose what? Criminal activity by harboring fugitives, a life of welfare and poverty when the parents can't get a job, or a fresh start at age 18?

You don't think sending them back to the third world with filth and drug cartel violence is sending them in to a life of poverty? Why the hell do you think these people came here in the first place?

 

[Unkotare]

The OP assumes anyone gets deported under obama unless they commit a crime big enough to land on the 24-hour news cycle, and even then...

 

[David_42]

Don't deport illegals, give them a path to citizenship. Unless you pro lifers want to see children go back to bad countries for them.

It's their country. It's where they belong.

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

No, I don't blame them as long as they get on the bus and go back to where they came from.

Tolerance. /s

 

[bripat9643]

So what are you suggesting here? That we, the United States Citizens, change our entire immigration system because of the "children" so we don't have to feel bad?

No, we change it because it's the sensible thing to do. This country was built on immigration. A hundred years ago people were coming here on boats by the tens of thousands and we had them sign their name in a book and be on there way and I'd say everything turned out pretty damn good in the long term. Now we've made it so absurdly complicated and time consuming that people are skirting the law. Unless you're intent on applying brute force that's what happens.

Let me tell you something, I'm sick of changing for them. I'm sick of having to press 1 to speak our language. I'm sick of having to choose between an English ballot or Spanish ballot at the voting places. I'm sick of having to change for them.

Oh, you poor baby! You have to choose between two?? That must be so incredibly trying for you. Most countries in the world have more than one official language spoken. Go to Canada and you'll find everything in English and French. Go to Europe and you'll find things reprinted in many different languages. Last time I was in Barcelona I ate at a restaurant where I could choose the language of my menu. Why is it that if somehow we have two widely spoken languages in the U.S. instead of just English that suddenly mean shit's going to come crashing down? That's just your xenophobia speaking.

Hey! I was here first. It's about time you change for me--not the other way around.

Yeah, I'm guessing a lot of Native American Indian tribes are going to disagree with you on that one.

You're wrong about what happened 100 years ago. We had strict quotas then. People had to get an immigration visa before they could come.

No other country has wide open borders like ours. They all strictly limit immigration. Why should we accept all the human refuse of the entire world?

 

[David_42]

Don't deport illegals, give them a path to citizenship. Unless you pro lifers want to see children go back to bad countries for them.

It's their country. It's where they belong.

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to America?

I don't blame them, but if they're illegals, they should go back.

Yeah, deport them back to communist cuba. Good idea.

 

[bripat9643]

Don't deport illegals, give them a path to citizenship. Unless you pro lifers want to see children go back to bad countries for them.

It's their country. It's where they belong.

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

No, I don't blame them as long as they get on the bus and go back to where they came from.

Tolerance. /s

Why should I be tolerant of illegal invaders?

 

[David_42]

Don't deport illegals, give them a path to citizenship. Unless you pro lifers want to see children go back to bad countries for them.

It's their country. It's where they belong.

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

No, I don't blame them as long as they get on the bus and go back to where they came from.

Tolerance. /s

Why should I be tolerant of illegal invaders?

They're invaders now? LOL.

 

[Jackson]

I'm well aware of that. It's not a valid comparison. We aren't talking about a state to state move here.

Yes, it is a valid comparison. American families move without their children's permission. Sometimes it is state to state other times it's to another country,

Exactly. You see it on the show House Hunters International all the time. The parents decide they want to live outside our country or otherwise have to move overseas because of work. The kids have no choice but to go with them.

Exactly, the parents decide. Are you seeing the difference here? The government is making the decision here so you have the government kicking out American citizens with their parents or according to some of your comrades here we can throw them in an orphanage.

So, if the parents are breaking the law, you propose what? Criminal activity by harboring fugitives, a life of welfare and poverty when the parents can't get a job, or a fresh start at age 18?

You don't think sending them back to the third world with filth and drug cartel violence is sending them in to a life of poverty? Why the hell do you think these people came here in the first place?

Why don't they do something about their own country? Have a revolution and clean up the dishonesty in government.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Don't deport illegals, give them a path to citizenship. Unless you pro lifers want to see children go back to bad countries for them.

It's their country. It's where they belong.

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to America?

I don't blame them, but if they're illegals, they should go back.

Yeah, deport them back to communist cuba. Good idea.

Sure, after we deport 10 or 12 million illegals, we can start deporting Cubans.

 

[bripat9643]

It's their country. It's where they belong.

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

No, I don't blame them as long as they get on the bus and go back to where they came from.

Tolerance. /s

Why should I be tolerant of illegal invaders?

They're invaders now? LOL.

Of course they're invaders.

 

[bripat9643]

They will go as a family. Trump doesn't want to break up families

-Geaux

You can't deport an American citizen.

They should NOT be considered as citizens.

If they're born here, they're a citizen, Sparky.

Time to change that.

 

[David_42]

Don't deport illegals, give them a path to citizenship. Unless you pro lifers want to see children go back to bad countries for them.

It's their country. It's where they belong.

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to America?

I don't blame them, but if they're illegals, they should go back.

Yeah, deport them back to communist cuba. Good idea.

Sure, after we deport 10 or 12 million illegals, we can start deporting Cubans.

*sigh* No hope. Go join the new gestapo.

 

[Jackson]

They will go as a family. Trump doesn't want to break up families

-Geaux

You can't deport an American citizen.

They should NOT be considered as citizens.

If they're born here, they're a citizen, Sparky.

If their parents cme over illegally, then they have to go.

 

[David_42]

They will go as a family. Trump doesn't want to break up families

-Geaux

You can't deport an American citizen.

They should NOT be considered as citizens.

If they're born here, they're a citizen, Sparky.

If their parents cme over illegally, then they have to go.

Wow, so compassionate and caring, deport children to crime ridden and impoverished mexico.

 

[Jackson]

It's their country. It's where they belong.

Many come to the "land of the free" and seek the "american dream." Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to america? I won't.
How Immigrants Boost U.S. Economic Growth The Fiscal Times

Can you blame them for leaving and seeking to come to America?

I don't blame them, but if they're illegals, they should go back.

Yeah, deport them back to communist cuba. Good idea.

Sure, after we deport 10 or 12 million illegals, we can start deporting Cubans.

*sigh* No hope. Go join the new gestapo.

{{sigh}} No hope. Go join the Communist Party, if you are not a member now.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So what are you suggesting here? That we, the United States Citizens, change our entire immigration system because of the "children" so we don't have to feel bad?

No, we change it because it's the sensible thing to do. This country was built on immigration. A hundred years ago people were coming here on boats by the tens of thousands and we had them sign their name in a book and be on there way and I'd say everything turned out pretty damn good in the long term. Now we've made it so absurdly complicated and time consuming that people are skirting the law. Unless you're intent on applying brute force that's what happens.

Let me tell you something, I'm sick of changing for them. I'm sick of having to press 1 to speak our language. I'm sick of having to choose between an English ballot or Spanish ballot at the voting places. I'm sick of having to change for them.

Oh, you poor baby! You have to choose between two?? That must be so incredibly trying for you. Most countries in the world have more than one official language spoken. Go to Canada and you'll find everything in English and French. Go to Europe and you'll find things reprinted in many different languages. Last time I was in Barcelona I ate at a restaurant where I could choose the language of my menu. Why is it that if somehow we have two widely spoken languages in the U.S. instead of just English that suddenly mean shit's going to come crashing down? That's just your xenophobia speaking.

Hey! I was here first. It's about time you change for me--not the other way around.

Yeah, I'm guessing a lot of Native American Indian tribes are going to disagree with you on that one.

People of any country have the right to fight in defense when they are being invaded, and yes, we are being invaded.

They are changing our language, changing our rate of pay, changing our laws. Taking jobs away from real Americans. What other country allows this besides the US?

You "surrender first" Americans better think about what you're giving up in return to feel all warm and fuzzy inside. So yes, I will choose to fight to keep our country the way it is, and hopefully return it to the way it was.