What kind of ally and NATO member is Turkey exactly?

[Doc1]

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Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the autocratic Islamist president of Turkey, wrote an op-ed article published on Monday by the New York Times, entitled “Turkey’s View of the Crisis With the U.S.” He complained that the United States does not respect “Turkey’s sovereignty” and “Turkish democracy.” He warned that failure to reverse the “trend” of “unilateral actions against Turkey by the United States” will require Turkey “to start looking for new friends and allies.” The fact is, however, that under Erdogan’s leadership, Turkey had already embarked on its own trend away from being a reliable NATO member and friend of the United States well before its recent disputes with the Trump administration.

Erdogan’s bill of particulars against U.S. policy set forth in his op-ed column included American support for Kurdish forces in Syria. Although the Syrian Kurds have been fighting effectively against ISIS, Erdogan treats them as terrorists more dangerous than ISIS because they are allied with the Kurds in Turkey seeking autonomy. Erdogan objected to what he considered the U.S.’s failure to adequately condemn the failed coup attempt against Erdogan’s government in 2016. He complained about the U.S.’s rejection of Turkey’s requests to turn over the presumed ring-leader of the coup attempt, Fethullah Gulen, who currently resides in Pennsylvania. Finally, Erdogan expressed defiance over the recent sanctions imposed by the Trump administration in response to the Turkish government’s refusal to free Pastor Andrew Brunson, a U.S. citizen. "

Erdogan's Warning to the US

Kiss our asses.

 

[JGalt]

Turkey is only an ally in that they allowed us to put some military bases on their property.

I'm pretty sure Trump could work out a better deal with someone else, and give them the boot.

 

[Tehon]

Erdogan has a point, I think. The Times wants me to pay to read his op-ed.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

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Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the autocratic Islamist president of Turkey, wrote an op-ed article published on Monday by the New York Times, entitled “Turkey’s View of the Crisis With the U.S.” He complained that the United States does not respect “Turkey’s sovereignty” and “Turkish democracy.” He warned that failure to reverse the “trend” of “unilateral actions against Turkey by the United States” will require Turkey “to start looking for new friends and allies.” The fact is, however, that under Erdogan’s leadership, Turkey had already embarked on its own trend away from being a reliable NATO member and friend of the United States well before its recent disputes with the Trump administration.

Erdogan’s bill of particulars against U.S. policy set forth in his op-ed column included American support for Kurdish forces in Syria. Although the Syrian Kurds have been fighting effectively against ISIS, Erdogan treats them as terrorists more dangerous than ISIS because they are allied with the Kurds in Turkey seeking autonomy. Erdogan objected to what he considered the U.S.’s failure to adequately condemn the failed coup attempt against Erdogan’s government in 2016. He complained about the U.S.’s rejection of Turkey’s requests to turn over the presumed ring-leader of the coup attempt, Fethullah Gulen, who currently resides in Pennsylvania. Finally, Erdogan expressed defiance over the recent sanctions imposed by the Trump administration in response to the Turkish government’s refusal to free Pastor Andrew Brunson, a U.S. citizen. "

Erdogan's Warning to the US

Kiss our asses.

Is this the same Turkey that bore the brunt of the refugee fall out from US wars in the Middle East ?

 

[longknife]

Turkey used to be a strong ally of the US and the West in general. It was founded on a strong position of being non-religious. The recent trend has been to restore Islam as the governing principals and has now become our enemy.

I think we should remove all of our military from bases in Turkey immediately!

 

[Correll]

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Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the autocratic Islamist president of Turkey, wrote an op-ed article published on Monday by the New York Times, entitled “Turkey’s View of the Crisis With the U.S.” He complained that the United States does not respect “Turkey’s sovereignty” and “Turkish democracy.” He warned that failure to reverse the “trend” of “unilateral actions against Turkey by the United States” will require Turkey “to start looking for new friends and allies.” The fact is, however, that under Erdogan’s leadership, Turkey had already embarked on its own trend away from being a reliable NATO member and friend of the United States well before its recent disputes with the Trump administration.

Erdogan’s bill of particulars against U.S. policy set forth in his op-ed column included American support for Kurdish forces in Syria. Although the Syrian Kurds have been fighting effectively against ISIS, Erdogan treats them as terrorists more dangerous than ISIS because they are allied with the Kurds in Turkey seeking autonomy. Erdogan objected to what he considered the U.S.’s failure to adequately condemn the failed coup attempt against Erdogan’s government in 2016. He complained about the U.S.’s rejection of Turkey’s requests to turn over the presumed ring-leader of the coup attempt, Fethullah Gulen, who currently resides in Pennsylvania. Finally, Erdogan expressed defiance over the recent sanctions imposed by the Trump administration in response to the Turkish government’s refusal to free Pastor Andrew Brunson, a U.S. citizen. "

Erdogan's Warning to the US

Kiss our asses.

Is this the same Turkey that bore the brunt of the refugee fall out from US wars in the Middle East ?

Did I ever tell you, how much I respected your Europeans for having the wisdom to not let the Turks into the EU?

That was very wise of you.


Let's face it, despite their generations of alliance, they really aren't Europeans, and would not be good EU members.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

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Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the autocratic Islamist president of Turkey, wrote an op-ed article published on Monday by the New York Times, entitled “Turkey’s View of the Crisis With the U.S.” He complained that the United States does not respect “Turkey’s sovereignty” and “Turkish democracy.” He warned that failure to reverse the “trend” of “unilateral actions against Turkey by the United States” will require Turkey “to start looking for new friends and allies.” The fact is, however, that under Erdogan’s leadership, Turkey had already embarked on its own trend away from being a reliable NATO member and friend of the United States well before its recent disputes with the Trump administration.

Erdogan’s bill of particulars against U.S. policy set forth in his op-ed column included American support for Kurdish forces in Syria. Although the Syrian Kurds have been fighting effectively against ISIS, Erdogan treats them as terrorists more dangerous than ISIS because they are allied with the Kurds in Turkey seeking autonomy. Erdogan objected to what he considered the U.S.’s failure to adequately condemn the failed coup attempt against Erdogan’s government in 2016. He complained about the U.S.’s rejection of Turkey’s requests to turn over the presumed ring-leader of the coup attempt, Fethullah Gulen, who currently resides in Pennsylvania. Finally, Erdogan expressed defiance over the recent sanctions imposed by the Trump administration in response to the Turkish government’s refusal to free Pastor Andrew Brunson, a U.S. citizen. "

Erdogan's Warning to the US

Kiss our asses.

Is this the same Turkey that bore the brunt of the refugee fall out from US wars in the Middle East ?

Did I ever tell you, how much I respected your Europeans for having the wisdom to not let the Turks into the EU?

That was very wise of you.


Let's face it, despite their generations of alliance, they really aren't Europeans, and would not be good EU members.

There are two Turkeys just as there are two Americas. If they had been in the EU this nonsense would not have happened.

 

[martybegan]

Turkey used to be a strong ally of the US and the West in general. It was founded on a strong position of being non-religious. The recent trend has been to restore Islam as the governing principals and has now become our enemy.

I think we should remove all of our military from bases in Turkey immediately!

Not only is it going more islamic, it is going more authoritarian.

We are better off supporting the Kurds and dumping Turkey out of NATO.

 

[Doc1]

Ole Erdogan thinks he is the new " Caliph".

 

[Doc1]

"
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the autocratic Islamist president of Turkey, wrote an op-ed article published on Monday by the New York Times, entitled “Turkey’s View of the Crisis With the U.S.” He complained that the United States does not respect “Turkey’s sovereignty” and “Turkish democracy.” He warned that failure to reverse the “trend” of “unilateral actions against Turkey by the United States” will require Turkey “to start looking for new friends and allies.” The fact is, however, that under Erdogan’s leadership, Turkey had already embarked on its own trend away from being a reliable NATO member and friend of the United States well before its recent disputes with the Trump administration.

Erdogan’s bill of particulars against U.S. policy set forth in his op-ed column included American support for Kurdish forces in Syria. Although the Syrian Kurds have been fighting effectively against ISIS, Erdogan treats them as terrorists more dangerous than ISIS because they are allied with the Kurds in Turkey seeking autonomy. Erdogan objected to what he considered the U.S.’s failure to adequately condemn the failed coup attempt against Erdogan’s government in 2016. He complained about the U.S.’s rejection of Turkey’s requests to turn over the presumed ring-leader of the coup attempt, Fethullah Gulen, who currently resides in Pennsylvania. Finally, Erdogan expressed defiance over the recent sanctions imposed by the Trump administration in response to the Turkish government’s refusal to free Pastor Andrew Brunson, a U.S. citizen. "

Erdogan's Warning to the US

Kiss our asses.

Is this the same Turkey that bore the brunt of the refugee fall out from US wars in the Middle East ?

Did I ever tell you, how much I respected your Europeans for having the wisdom to not let the Turks into the EU?

That was very wise of you.


Let's face it, despite their generations of alliance, they really aren't Europeans, and would not be good EU members.

There are two Turkeys just as there are two Americas. If they had been in the EU this nonsense would not have happened.

Don't be silly. Radical Islam is Radical Islam and we to look no further than the EU to know it.

 

[Correll]

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Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the autocratic Islamist president of Turkey, wrote an op-ed article published on Monday by the New York Times, entitled “Turkey’s View of the Crisis With the U.S.” He complained that the United States does not respect “Turkey’s sovereignty” and “Turkish democracy.” He warned that failure to reverse the “trend” of “unilateral actions against Turkey by the United States” will require Turkey “to start looking for new friends and allies.” The fact is, however, that under Erdogan’s leadership, Turkey had already embarked on its own trend away from being a reliable NATO member and friend of the United States well before its recent disputes with the Trump administration.

Erdogan’s bill of particulars against U.S. policy set forth in his op-ed column included American support for Kurdish forces in Syria. Although the Syrian Kurds have been fighting effectively against ISIS, Erdogan treats them as terrorists more dangerous than ISIS because they are allied with the Kurds in Turkey seeking autonomy. Erdogan objected to what he considered the U.S.’s failure to adequately condemn the failed coup attempt against Erdogan’s government in 2016. He complained about the U.S.’s rejection of Turkey’s requests to turn over the presumed ring-leader of the coup attempt, Fethullah Gulen, who currently resides in Pennsylvania. Finally, Erdogan expressed defiance over the recent sanctions imposed by the Trump administration in response to the Turkish government’s refusal to free Pastor Andrew Brunson, a U.S. citizen. "

Erdogan's Warning to the US

Kiss our asses.

Is this the same Turkey that bore the brunt of the refugee fall out from US wars in the Middle East ?

Did I ever tell you, how much I respected your Europeans for having the wisdom to not let the Turks into the EU?

That was very wise of you.


Let's face it, despite their generations of alliance, they really aren't Europeans, and would not be good EU members.

There are two Turkeys just as there are two Americas. If they had been in the EU this nonsense would not have happened.

How would being in the EU had prevented the trend towards islamofacism?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

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Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the autocratic Islamist president of Turkey, wrote an op-ed article published on Monday by the New York Times, entitled “Turkey’s View of the Crisis With the U.S.” He complained that the United States does not respect “Turkey’s sovereignty” and “Turkish democracy.” He warned that failure to reverse the “trend” of “unilateral actions against Turkey by the United States” will require Turkey “to start looking for new friends and allies.” The fact is, however, that under Erdogan’s leadership, Turkey had already embarked on its own trend away from being a reliable NATO member and friend of the United States well before its recent disputes with the Trump administration.

Erdogan’s bill of particulars against U.S. policy set forth in his op-ed column included American support for Kurdish forces in Syria. Although the Syrian Kurds have been fighting effectively against ISIS, Erdogan treats them as terrorists more dangerous than ISIS because they are allied with the Kurds in Turkey seeking autonomy. Erdogan objected to what he considered the U.S.’s failure to adequately condemn the failed coup attempt against Erdogan’s government in 2016. He complained about the U.S.’s rejection of Turkey’s requests to turn over the presumed ring-leader of the coup attempt, Fethullah Gulen, who currently resides in Pennsylvania. Finally, Erdogan expressed defiance over the recent sanctions imposed by the Trump administration in response to the Turkish government’s refusal to free Pastor Andrew Brunson, a U.S. citizen. "

Erdogan's Warning to the US

Kiss our asses.

Is this the same Turkey that bore the brunt of the refugee fall out from US wars in the Middle East ?

Did I ever tell you, how much I respected your Europeans for having the wisdom to not let the Turks into the EU?

That was very wise of you.


Let's face it, despite their generations of alliance, they really aren't Europeans, and would not be good EU members.

There are two Turkeys just as there are two Americas. If they had been in the EU this nonsense would not have happened.

How would being in the EU had prevented the trend towards islamofacism?

As stated there are two Turkeys. One is urban,modern and europeanised. The other is rural,badly educated and backward. Just like the US.
These people actually voted for Erdogan and they love him.He is building roads,bridges,housing, you name it, and improving their lives.
Membership of the EU would have been a way of drawing these people into the modern world. The benefits to membership would have outweighed the attractions of Erdogan.
Dont make the mistake of seeing Turkey as a sort of Isis state. It isnt by any means. Its a democratic country that has lost its way.
Erdogan is a shit but they elected him.

 

[Nia88]

Turkey used to be a strong ally of the US and the West in general. It was founded on a strong position of being non-religious. The recent trend has been to restore Islam as the governing principals and has now become our enemy.

I think we should remove all of our military from bases in Turkey immediately!

Kind of like how the current rethuglican government is trying to restore biblical values?

Trump admin is becoming the enemy of the entire free world at this point.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Turkey used to be a strong ally of the US and the West in general. It was founded on a strong position of being non-religious. The recent trend has been to restore Islam as the governing principals and has now become our enemy.

I think we should remove all of our military from bases in Turkey immediately!

Kind of like how the current rethuglican government is trying to restore biblical values?

Trump admin is becoming the enemy of the entire free world at this point.

That is another thing that links the US and Turkey.

 

[Bush92]

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Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the autocratic Islamist president of Turkey, wrote an op-ed article published on Monday by the New York Times, entitled “Turkey’s View of the Crisis With the U.S.” He complained that the United States does not respect “Turkey’s sovereignty” and “Turkish democracy.” He warned that failure to reverse the “trend” of “unilateral actions against Turkey by the United States” will require Turkey “to start looking for new friends and allies.” The fact is, however, that under Erdogan’s leadership, Turkey had already embarked on its own trend away from being a reliable NATO member and friend of the United States well before its recent disputes with the Trump administration.

Erdogan’s bill of particulars against U.S. policy set forth in his op-ed column included American support for Kurdish forces in Syria. Although the Syrian Kurds have been fighting effectively against ISIS, Erdogan treats them as terrorists more dangerous than ISIS because they are allied with the Kurds in Turkey seeking autonomy. Erdogan objected to what he considered the U.S.’s failure to adequately condemn the failed coup attempt against Erdogan’s government in 2016. He complained about the U.S.’s rejection of Turkey’s requests to turn over the presumed ring-leader of the coup attempt, Fethullah Gulen, who currently resides in Pennsylvania. Finally, Erdogan expressed defiance over the recent sanctions imposed by the Trump administration in response to the Turkish government’s refusal to free Pastor Andrew Brunson, a U.S. citizen. "

Erdogan's Warning to the US

Kiss our asses.

Turkey is a shit bag of an ally.

 

[Bush92]

Liberals like Turkey as an ally...you know...that whole men in a bath house thing.

 

[Nia88]

Liberals like Turkey as an ally...you know...that whole men in a bath house thing.

Yeah because all liberals are gay.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

"
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the autocratic Islamist president of Turkey, wrote an op-ed article published on Monday by the New York Times, entitled “Turkey’s View of the Crisis With the U.S.” He complained that the United States does not respect “Turkey’s sovereignty” and “Turkish democracy.” He warned that failure to reverse the “trend” of “unilateral actions against Turkey by the United States” will require Turkey “to start looking for new friends and allies.” The fact is, however, that under Erdogan’s leadership, Turkey had already embarked on its own trend away from being a reliable NATO member and friend of the United States well before its recent disputes with the Trump administration.

Erdogan’s bill of particulars against U.S. policy set forth in his op-ed column included American support for Kurdish forces in Syria. Although the Syrian Kurds have been fighting effectively against ISIS, Erdogan treats them as terrorists more dangerous than ISIS because they are allied with the Kurds in Turkey seeking autonomy. Erdogan objected to what he considered the U.S.’s failure to adequately condemn the failed coup attempt against Erdogan’s government in 2016. He complained about the U.S.’s rejection of Turkey’s requests to turn over the presumed ring-leader of the coup attempt, Fethullah Gulen, who currently resides in Pennsylvania. Finally, Erdogan expressed defiance over the recent sanctions imposed by the Trump administration in response to the Turkish government’s refusal to free Pastor Andrew Brunson, a U.S. citizen. "

Erdogan's Warning to the US

Kiss our asses.

Turkey is a shit bag of an ally.

You mean unlike the Saudis ?

 

[Correll]

"
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the autocratic Islamist president of Turkey, wrote an op-ed article published on Monday by the New York Times, entitled “Turkey’s View of the Crisis With the U.S.” He complained that the United States does not respect “Turkey’s sovereignty” and “Turkish democracy.” He warned that failure to reverse the “trend” of “unilateral actions against Turkey by the United States” will require Turkey “to start looking for new friends and allies.” The fact is, however, that under Erdogan’s leadership, Turkey had already embarked on its own trend away from being a reliable NATO member and friend of the United States well before its recent disputes with the Trump administration.

Erdogan’s bill of particulars against U.S. policy set forth in his op-ed column included American support for Kurdish forces in Syria. Although the Syrian Kurds have been fighting effectively against ISIS, Erdogan treats them as terrorists more dangerous than ISIS because they are allied with the Kurds in Turkey seeking autonomy. Erdogan objected to what he considered the U.S.’s failure to adequately condemn the failed coup attempt against Erdogan’s government in 2016. He complained about the U.S.’s rejection of Turkey’s requests to turn over the presumed ring-leader of the coup attempt, Fethullah Gulen, who currently resides in Pennsylvania. Finally, Erdogan expressed defiance over the recent sanctions imposed by the Trump administration in response to the Turkish government’s refusal to free Pastor Andrew Brunson, a U.S. citizen. "

Erdogan's Warning to the US

Kiss our asses.

Is this the same Turkey that bore the brunt of the refugee fall out from US wars in the Middle East ?

Did I ever tell you, how much I respected your Europeans for having the wisdom to not let the Turks into the EU?

That was very wise of you.


Let's face it, despite their generations of alliance, they really aren't Europeans, and would not be good EU members.

There are two Turkeys just as there are two Americas. If they had been in the EU this nonsense would not have happened.

How would being in the EU had prevented the trend towards islamofacism?

As stated there are two Turkeys. One is urban,modern and europeanised. The other is rural,badly educated and backward. Just like the US.
These people actually voted for Erdogan and they love him.He is building roads,bridges,housing, you name it, and improving their lives.
Membership of the EU would have been a way of drawing these people into the modern world. The benefits to membership would have outweighed the attractions of Erdogan.
Dont make the mistake of seeing Turkey as a sort of Isis state. It isnt by any means. Its a democratic country that has lost its way.
Erdogan is a shit but they elected him.

First of all your bigotry to the poor, the rural, and even those without college degrees, is noted, held against you are proof that you are a bad person, and dismissed as unsupported garbage.


Second of all, your assumption that those that live in the city are the opposite of your stereotypes of the rural, is also noted, held against you and laughed at.


Turkey is following the global muslim trend towards more hostility to the non-Muslim world. EU member ship would have just let those "poor uneducated and hostile rural" people of Turkey, move by the millions into your lands.


It was wise of your people to avoid that nightmare.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Is this the same Turkey that bore the brunt of the refugee fall out from US wars in the Middle East ?

Did I ever tell you, how much I respected your Europeans for having the wisdom to not let the Turks into the EU?

That was very wise of you.


Let's face it, despite their generations of alliance, they really aren't Europeans, and would not be good EU members.

There are two Turkeys just as there are two Americas. If they had been in the EU this nonsense would not have happened.

How would being in the EU had prevented the trend towards islamofacism?

As stated there are two Turkeys. One is urban,modern and europeanised. The other is rural,badly educated and backward. Just like the US.
These people actually voted for Erdogan and they love him.He is building roads,bridges,housing, you name it, and improving their lives.
Membership of the EU would have been a way of drawing these people into the modern world. The benefits to membership would have outweighed the attractions of Erdogan.
Dont make the mistake of seeing Turkey as a sort of Isis state. It isnt by any means. Its a democratic country that has lost its way.
Erdogan is a shit but they elected him.

First of all your bigotry to the poor, the rural, and even those without college degrees, is noted, held against you are proof that you are a bad person, and dismissed as unsupported garbage.


Second of all, your assumption that those that live in the city are the opposite of your stereotypes of the rural, is also noted, held against you and laughed at.


Turkey is following the global muslim trend towards more hostility to the non-Muslim world. EU member ship would have just let those "poor uneducated and hostile rural" people of Turkey, move by the millions into your lands.


It was wise of your people to avoid that nightmare.

A good exemple of your usual idiocy. How does Turkish hostility to non muslims manifest itself ? Which countries have they bombed or invaded ?

There are half a million turks who live in the uk already and have done for generations. They are moderate,hard working and an asset to our country.

Your shit kicker racism shows how ignorant you actually are.