What inferences can we make by looking at these two specimins?

[progressive hunter]

That's not what textbooks say ... chemistry studies the changes these materials make ... from common ancestors ... a vessel of pure methane will be contaminated with ethane after so much time ... evolution ... DNA is a little more complicated but it not all that much ... the chemistry is the same ...

not all textbooks say that,, and none of them show who observed and recorded data from millions of yrs ago..

as I said,, inside of a species like in this case canines, changes can happen due to breeding and environment,, thats not evolution,,

evolution claim is that I a human being have a common ancestor with several different other species and have magically changed over millions of yrs,,

 

[Leo123]

That's not what textbooks say ... chemistry studies the changes these materials make ... from common ancestors ... a vessel of pure methane will be contaminated with ethane after so much time ... evolution ... DNA is a little more complicated but it not all that much ... the chemistry is the same ...

DNA made this, just one motor of one cilia in an E Coli cell. I'd say it's much more than a little more complicated.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

DNA made this, just one motor of one cilia in an E Coli cell. I'd say it's much more than a little more complicated.

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So what? This doesn't impress anyone.

 

[ding]

Source? You don't actually believe anyone, well, other than ding, is apt to just take your word it?

I live rent free in your head.

 

[ding]

That's what is called "unsound logic", as it is based on a false premise. And ironically enough, you just proved it wrong by writing a post, since you are indeed an ape.

Sort of like your statement that the moon is made of cheese.

 

[ReinyDays]

not all textbooks say that,, and none of them show who observed and recorded data from millions of yrs ago..

as I said,, inside of a species like in this case canines, changes can happen due to breeding and environment,, thats not evolution,,

evolution claim is that I a human being have a common ancestor with several different other species and have magically changed over millions of yrs,,

Yes ... all textbooks say that ... methane evolves into ethane ... do you not believe me? ...

You have some crazy ideas about evolution, of course what you've designed is wrong ... that's the designer's fault ... if fault it is? ...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

For example, what might their nearest common ancestor look like? might their DNA be similar? if we found these only as fossils, what might we infer?

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The skeleton on the left is feline. The skeleton on the left is canine.

 

[ReinyDays]

So what? This doesn't impress anyone.

I was impressed it came with a motor switch ... I'd have just used a 110V job from the hardware store ...

 

[progressive hunter]

Yes ... all textbooks say that ... methane evolves into ethane ... do you not believe me? ...

You have some crazy ideas about evolution, of course what you've designed is wrong ... that's the designer's fault ... if fault it is? ...

when did we start talking about methane and ethane??

I didnt design anything,,

are you feeling OK??

youre all over the place,,

 

[Leo123]

The skeleton on the left is feline. The skeleton on the left is canine.

Isn't it left canine and right feline?

 

[progressive hunter]

Isn't it left canine and right feline?

ones a coyote and ones a dingo,,

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Isn't it left canine and right feline?

As I sit here, facing the images, the one on the left is Feline and the one on the right is Canine.

I know the cat, because there is only one animal on earth that walks on its toes and that's a cat, all cats, Lions even.

The shape of the teeth on the skeleton on the right is obviously canine. And the rib cage, see how large it is in comparison to the rest of the bone structure. That's doggie.

 

[Leo123]

As I sit here, facing the images, the one on the left is Feline and the one on the right is Canine.

I know the cat, because there is only one animal on earth that walks on its toes and that's a cat, all cats, Lions even.

The shape of the teeth on the skeleton on the right is obviously canine. And the rib cage, see how large it is in comparison to the rest of the bone structure. That's doggie.

Yes it sure looks like the one on the left is on its toes. However, the one on the right seems to have a more flexible spine which is typical in cats. The bones are heavier on the left specimen which, IMO, is more indicative of a dog. Overall I really don't know. The one on the left looks strong and healthy, the one on the right, seems older and more fragile.

 

[scruffy]

DNA made this, just one motor of one cilia in an E Coli cell. I'd say it's much more than a little more complicated.

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This is taken to the next level in the antennae of, for example, crickets. Where the cilium is an olfactory organ as well as a pointing device and a mechanism for mapping the spatial environment.

Here's a cricket antenna:

The flagellum is the cousin of the cilium.

The motor mechanism is more sophisticated, it looks like this:

There are giant neuron in the subesophageal ganglion with very fast responses at 10 msec latency

Here's an actual cricket antenna:

 

[Grumblenuts]

Yes ... all textbooks say that ... methane evolves into ethane ... do you not believe me? ...

Sorry, I do not believe that all textbooks say that. In fact, I'd be surprised to find one that did.

 

[dblack]

But one could never assert that if all we had were fossils, the assumption would be (because it always is) that they were closely related and divergent.

Oh geez... this is an evolution denial thread.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Oh geez... this is an evolution denial thread.

aka "Intelligent design" aka creationist hooey.

 

[ReinyDays]

Sorry, I do not believe that all textbooks say that. In fact, I'd be surprised to find one that did.

Bubba didn't finish Middle School ... would you understand a chemistry textbook? ... geez, I'D be surprised if you found one that did mentioned alkane ... or alkene ... or alkyne ... those are words taught in high school chemistry class ...

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sort of like your statement that the moon is made of cheese.

Exactly!

 

[ding]

Exactly!

And yet you are arguing that was valid logic while in this thread you recognize unsound logic leads to false conclusions.... like the moon is made of cheese.