What if: What would a 4-team CFP look like this year??

[Mr. Friscus]

8 teams out of 135 is a ridiculously low ratio.

Name a year and I can show a clear elite class of 4-8 schools who clearly fit an elevated standard as far as consideration for the championship. It’s never been 12, you’re letting in teams that blew their chances in the regular season… make the regular season matter more, now you can lose 2-3 games and still get in… ridiculous

 

[Couchpotato]

Name a year and I can show a clear elite class of 4-8 schools who clearly fit an elevated standard as far as consideration for the championship. It’s never been 12, you’re letting in teams that blew their chances in the regular season… make the regular season matter more, now you can lose 2-3 games and still get in… ridiculous

The point is you are eliminating 99% of the field before a game is played. I also don't see how it's "better" to get fewer games between marquee teams. In your scenario we dont get OSU v Tenn. We dont get to see if Az State can "shock the world" or Boise St or SMU. It will be.

OSU
Mich
Alabama
UGA
Texas
Oregon
ND

favored every year and given 13 second chances at getting in the top 4/8

PSU
UF
Ole Miss
Tenn
Fla St
Miami
Clemson
Colorado (as long as Dieon is there)

Have a shot if they have a great season and the teams in the upper tier have a down year.



Everyone else.

No shot no matter what they do.

 

[XponentialChaos]

What if we just went back to the numerous regional conferences, the traditional bowl games, and just argued about who was best at the end of the season?

 

[JoeMoma]

 

[Mr. Friscus]

The point is you are eliminating 99% of the field before a game is played. I also don't see how it's "better" to get fewer games between marquee teams. In your scenario we dont get OSU v Tenn. We dont get to see if Az State can "shock the world" or Boise St or SMU. It will be.

OSU
Mich
Alabama
UGA
Texas
Oregon
ND

favored every year and given 13 second chances at getting in the top 4/8

PSU
UF
Ole Miss
Tenn
Fla St
Miami
Clemson
Colorado (as long as Dieon is there)

Have a shot if they have a great season and the teams in the upper tier have a down year.



Everyone else.

No shot no matter what they do.

I get what you're saying, and I understand your perspective.

I'll admit, as anyone should, that there's big program bias. However, I maintain that as long as there's an understanding on what the 8-team tournament is, it would be the best.

The basic framework would be the Big 10, SEC, ACC, and Big 12 Champs, and 4 at-large teams. As far as an "understanding", I would commit to making sure a dominant undefeated or 1 loss Mountain west or smaller school gets in over a 3rd place Big 10 or SEC team. Perhaps no conference can have more than 2 teams?

To me there's a cut-off in college football as far as elite schools who deserve a shot and those that lost too many games and don't. Sure, it's subjective, but many years it's pretty clear. I think the CFP should have undefeated, 1 loss, or 2 loss teams who lost to elite schools. If you lost 3 games you shouldn't be in. If you lost to 2 bums you shouldn't be given a shot.

That's must my perspective.

 

[Couchpotato]

This is the first thing year of the 12 team CFP. One thing it does is give the committee a TON of wiggle room to give the appearance of objectivity without being truly pressed.

I mean, I would say that if there was only a 4 team playoff this year, it would absolutely NOT be
1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Boise St
4. Arizona St.

I would say 3 and 4 would either be filled out by Penn St, Texas, Notre Dame.. and maybe the slimmest chance of Boise or even Ohio St.

There’s no way they would put Arizona St in a 4 team playoff. Absolutely none. You’d be more likely to see a unicorn running by Hunter Biden as he says no to a line of Cocaine than Arizona St. even mentioned if this were 4 teams

So, why are they 4th in a 12 team playoff? That shows what I talked about… they can appear objective, but we all know they aren’t.

Az St gave Texas all they wanted.
PSU v BSt was a good game
OSU is currently killing Oregon. The 12 team PO is so far, far far superior to the 4 team. We are getting 4 great games we wouldn’t otherwise have seen.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Az St gave Texas all they wanted.
PSU v BSt was a good game
OSU is currently killing Oregon. The 12 team PO is so far, far far superior to the 4 team. We are getting 4 great games we wouldn’t otherwise have seen.

I’ve advocated for 6 or 8 teams. I always thought 4 was too few.

If you want to use this year, it looks like 8 would have been fine… Indiana, SMU, Tennessee, etc were pretenders

 

[JoeMoma]

I’ve advocated for 6 or 8 teams. I always thought 4 was too few.

If you want to use this year, it looks like 8 would have been fine… Indiana, SMU, Tennessee, etc were pretenders

If the current 12 team playoff system continues, it's only a matter of time until a 9-12 seed wins the national championship. It's similar to a wild card team winning the Super Bowl.

 

[Couchpotato]

I’ve advocated for 6 or 8 teams. I always thought 4 was too few.

If you want to use this year, it looks like 8 would have been fine… Indiana, SMU, Tennessee, etc were pretenders

If I were a betting man I’d wager it expands to 16 before it contracts to 6 or 8. The seeding needs to be reworked, higher seed should get home field until the champ game. I still think they should split up the div to 4-6 sub divisions that each has a playoff series, but that will never happen. I’m not sure how they fix the Indiana type issue. They definitely need to stop ranking teams before a game is played. Week 6? Later?

 

[Couchpotato]

If the current 12 team playoff system continues, it's only a matter of time until a 9-12 seed wins the national championship. It's similar to a wild card team winning the Super Bowl.

It looks like an 8 seed is going to win it this year.

 

[JoeMoma]

We could potentially see Ga Vs. Texas III.
Texas wins the championship by going 1-2 against Ga, I'm sure there will be a lot of Bulldogs claiming the championship illegitimate.

 

[Couchpotato]

We could potentially see Ga Vs. Texas III.
Texas wins the championship by going 1-2 against Ga, I'm sure there will be a lot of Bulldogs claiming the championship illegitimate.

We could but if OSU keeps playing like this they will clown stomp Texas. I also wouldn’t bet on Ga making it past ND or PSU. I think there’s a greater chance of an all B1G NC game than an all SEC one.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

First obvious problem is what was easily predicted; the teams with byes were put at a disadvantage by having to play warmed-up teams that had just recently played and kicked off the dust. The NCAA basketball tourney had to expand to 64 teams back in the 1980’s for that very same reason.

 

[Votto]

This is the first thing year of the 12 team CFP. One thing it does is give the committee a TON of wiggle room to give the appearance of objectivity without being truly pressed.

I mean, I would say that if there was only a 4 team playoff this year, it would absolutely NOT be
1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. Boise St
4. Arizona St.

I would say 3 and 4 would either be filled out by Penn St, Texas, Notre Dame.. and maybe the slimmest chance of Boise or even Ohio St.

There’s no way they would put Arizona St in a 4 team playoff. Absolutely none. You’d be more likely to see a unicorn running by Hunter Biden as he says no to a line of Cocaine than Arizona St. even mentioned if this were 4 teams

So, why are they 4th in a 12 team playoff? That shows what I talked about… they can appear objective, but we all know they aren’t.

Don't look now.................

 

[Mr. Friscus]

If the current 12 team playoff system continues, it's only a matter of time until a 9-12 seed wins the national championship. It's similar to a wild card team winning the Super Bowl.

Well it would be a matter of time before any seed won the national championship..

 

[Mr. Friscus]

If I were a betting man I’d wager it expands to 16 before it contracts to 6 or 8.

Unfortunately I agree. Sports never contract.

The seeding needs to be reworked

If 12 is here to stay, I say no bye week and make ‘‘em all play.

Hand out national championship opportunities like pamphlets at Disney world.. make the regular season mean less and less.

They definitely need to stop ranking teams before a game is played. Week 6? Later?

I’ve said this for a long time. at least week 4.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

It looks like an 8 seed is going to win it this year.

They could, although they aren’t an overall 8th seed. They’re only lower because of auto-rankings from winning lower conferences are put ahead of them by mandate. Arizona St. was like 20+ ranked before being vaulted into the top 4.

OSU would probably be a 4-5 seed if they actually used genuine seeding.