What if we aren't taking this as seriously as we should?

[Crepitus]

Seriously, have any if you looked at this not as a series of discreet events, but as a whole pattern?

An interesting and compelling look from NY Magazine
What If Trump Has Been a Russian Asset Since 1987?

A little snip from the opening. Read the rest at the link and discuss.

The unfolding of the Russia scandal has been like walking into a dark cavern. Every step reveals that the cave runs deeper than we thought, and after each one, as we wonder how far it goes, our imaginations are circumscribed by the steps we have already taken. The cavern might go just a little farther, we presume, but probably not much farther. And since trying to discern the size and shape of the scandal is an exercise in uncertainty, we focus our attention on the most likely outcome, which is that the story goes a little deeper than what we have already discovered. Say, that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort told their candidate about the meeting they held at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer after they were promised dirt on Hillary Clinton; and that Trump and Kushner have some shady Russian investments; and that some of Trump’s advisers made some promises about lifting sanctions.

But what if that’s wrong? What if we’re still standing closer to the mouth of the cave than the end?

The media has treated the notion that Russia has personally compromised the president of the United States as something close to a kook theory. A minority of analysts, mostly but not exclusively on the right, have promoted aggressively exculpatory interpretations of the known facts, in which every suspicious piece of evidence turns out to have a surprisingly innocent explanation. And it is possible, though unlikely, that every trail between Trump Tower and the Kremlin extends no farther than its point of current visibility.

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[easyt65]

Seriously, have any if you looked at this not as a series of discreet events, but as a whole pattern?

An interesting and compelling look from NY Magazine
What If Trump Has Been a Russian Asset Since 1987?

A little snip from the opening. Read the rest at the link and discuss.

The unfolding of the Russia scandal has been like walking into a dark cavern. Every step reveals that the cave runs deeper than we thought, and after each one, as we wonder how far it goes, our imaginations are circumscribed by the steps we have already taken. The cavern might go just a little farther, we presume, but probably not much farther. And since trying to discern the size and shape of the scandal is an exercise in uncertainty, we focus our attention on the most likely outcome, which is that the story goes a little deeper than what we have already discovered. Say, that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort told their candidate about the meeting they held at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer after they were promised dirt on Hillary Clinton; and that Trump and Kushner have some shady Russian investments; and that some of Trump’s advisers made some promises about lifting sanctions.

But what if that’s wrong? What if we’re still standing closer to the mouth of the cave than the end?

The media has treated the notion that Russia has personally compromised the president of the United States as something close to a kook theory. A minority of analysts, mostly but not exclusively on the right, have promoted aggressively exculpatory interpretations of the known facts, in which every suspicious piece of evidence turns out to have a surprisingly innocent explanation. And it is possible, though unlikely, that every trail between Trump Tower and the Kremlin extends no farther than its point of current visibility.

 

[Crepitus]

Neither one of you fools bothered to read the link, it's hundreds of words and you dismissed it in seconds.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Seriously, have any if you looked at this not as a series of discreet events, but as a whole pattern?

An interesting and compelling look from NY Magazine
What If Trump Has Been a Russian Asset Since 1987?

A little snip from the opening. Read the rest at the link and discuss.

The unfolding of the Russia scandal has been like walking into a dark cavern. Every step reveals that the cave runs deeper than we thought, and after each one, as we wonder how far it goes, our imaginations are circumscribed by the steps we have already taken. The cavern might go just a little farther, we presume, but probably not much farther. And since trying to discern the size and shape of the scandal is an exercise in uncertainty, we focus our attention on the most likely outcome, which is that the story goes a little deeper than what we have already discovered. Say, that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort told their candidate about the meeting they held at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer after they were promised dirt on Hillary Clinton; and that Trump and Kushner have some shady Russian investments; and that some of Trump’s advisers made some promises about lifting sanctions.

But what if that’s wrong? What if we’re still standing closer to the mouth of the cave than the end?

The media has treated the notion that Russia has personally compromised the president of the United States as something close to a kook theory. A minority of analysts, mostly but not exclusively on the right, have promoted aggressively exculpatory interpretations of the known facts, in which every suspicious piece of evidence turns out to have a surprisingly innocent explanation. And it is possible, though unlikely, that every trail between Trump Tower and the Kremlin extends no farther than its point of current visibility.

You people. Every time I think you’ve hit rock bottom you show up with a jackhammer and keep digging.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Sorry excuse to cover Mueller's nothingness and let him continue forever.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Neither one of you fools bothered to read the link, it's hundreds of words and you dismissed it in seconds.

 

[nat4900]

Sorry excuse to cover Mueller's nothingness and let him continue forever.

"Comforting" words to those soon-to-be-convicts, correct, you fucking moron???........LOL

 

[easyt65]

Barak Obama ADMITTED He:

- Was sired by an Anti-Colonialist who wanted to see the US eliminated as a World Power and World influence
-- During college he connected with his father and changed his name to honor him

- Was tutored for years by Communist Frank Marshall Davis

- Studied Socialist Saul Alensky & quoted him during his Inauguration

- Was Mentored for decades by a racist, hate-spewing, anti-American

- Was friends with an un-apologetic domestic terrorists

Did liberals take all of this too lightly?


During his Presidency - over 8 years - Obama:
- Financed, supplied, supported, aided, abetted, armed, trained, protected, defended, and even dragged the US into Un-Constitutional, unapproved wars to help terrorists - to include Al Qaeda who slaughtered 3,000 Americans - take over their own country.

- In our war with terrorists rendered critical captured classified evidence / information we had obtained USELESS by broadcasting it to the world

- Aided terrorists, drug cartels, human traffickers, violent gangs, violent criminal illegals, and enemies to this country

- Violated both Constitution and Law

- Abandoned / sacrificed Americans to die at the hands of terrorists, illegally spied o Americans / reporters / the media / US Senators / USSC JUSTICES, GOP candidates, and a US President....Used a weaponized IRS against Americans who legally opposed his re-election

He did more harm to this country than any outside threat.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Barak Obama ADMITTED He:

- Was sired by an Anti-Colonialist who wanted to see the US eliminated as a World Power and World influence
-- During college he connected with his father and changed his name to honor him

- Was tutored for years by Communist Frank Marshall Davis

- Studied Socialist Saul Alensky & quoted him during his Inauguration

- Was Mentored for decades by a racist, hate-spewing, anti-American

- Was friends with an un-apologetic domestic terrorists

Did liberals take all of this too lightly?


During his Presidency - over 8 years - Obama:
- Financed, supplied, supported, aided, abetted, armed, trained, protected, defended, and even dragged the US into Un-Constitutional, unapproved wars to help terrorists - to include Al Qaeda who slaughtered 3,000 Americans - take over their own country.

- In our war with terrorists rendered critical captured classified evidence / information we had obtained USELESS by broadcasting it to the world

- Aided terrorists, drug cartels, human traffickers, violent gangs, violent criminal illegals, and enemies to this country

- Violated both Constitution and Law

- Abandoned / sacrificed Americans to die at the hands of terrorists, illegally spied o Americans / reporters / the media / US Senators / USSC JUSTICES, GOP candidates, and a US President....Used a weaponized IRS against Americans who legally opposed his re-election

He did more harm to this country than any outside threat.

He would have done more, Thank God he's lazy.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It is ironic how the same people that trumpet about the Deep State and the NWO and such laugh at this like it is impossible.


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[Crepitus]

Barak Obama ADMITTED He:

- Was sired by an Anti-Colonialist who wanted to see the US eliminated as a World Power and World influence
-- During college he connected with his father and changed his name to honor him

- Was tutored for years by Communist Frank Marshall Davis

- Studied Socialist Saul Alensky & quoted him during his Inauguration

- Was Mentored for decades by a racist, hate-spewing, anti-American

- Was friends with an un-apologetic domestic terrorists

Did liberals take all of this too lightly?


During his Presidency - over 8 years - Obama:
- Financed, supplied, supported, aided, abetted, armed, trained, protected, defended, and even dragged the US into Un-Constitutional, unapproved wars to help terrorists - to include Al Qaeda who slaughtered 3,000 Americans - take over their own country.

- In our war with terrorists rendered critical captured classified evidence / information we had obtained USELESS by broadcasting it to the world

- Aided terrorists, drug cartels, human traffickers, violent gangs, violent criminal illegals, and enemies to this country

- Violated both Constitution and Law

- Abandoned / sacrificed Americans to die at the hands of terrorists, illegally spied o Americans / reporters / the media / US Senators / USSC JUSTICES, GOP candidates, and a US President....Used a weaponized IRS against Americans who legally opposed his re-election

He did more harm to this country than any outside threat.

The difference here? Your post is rwnj propaganda, mine is a series of documented facts.

 

[easyt65]

Sorry excuse to cover Mueller's nothingness and let him continue forever.

"Comforting" words to those soon-to-be-convicts, correct you fucking moron???........LOL

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Bwuhahahaha.....

Manafort:
Mueller had to go back nearly a decade - back before Obama was President - to find a crime...that involved Hillary's campaign manager...and only indict Manafort....for a 'Scooter Libby' crime that had nothing to do with non-existent Russian collusion.

You scream 'at least I don't have aides' when someone points out you have 'herpes', as if manufactured / decades-old cherry-picked crimes have anything to do with the false accusations against Trump and/or as if they could possibly hide / excuse all the crimes committed by Democrats so far.

Rosenstein and Mueller, for example, ARE CRIMINALS - RIGHT NOW. It has been PROVEN! They continue to refuse to comply with Congressional subpoenas. So while they CLAIM Trump is a criminal while providing no evidence, their evidence of Obstruction is made obvious every single day by their continued refusal to comply.

 

[nat4900]

He did more harm to this country than any outside threat

....AND, he was half-black (the "nerve" of Obama)........................LOL

 

[nat4900]

Bwuhahahaha.....

Manafort:
Mueller had to go back nearly a decade - back before Obama was President

You're "correct" Queasy...................Trump hires only the "BEST" corrupt, crooks.

LOL

 

[easyt65]

The difference here? Your post is rwnj propaganda, mine is a series of documented facts.

Quite the opposite, D!ckhead. I have continuously presented links, articles, stories, reports - even from your beloved CNN, while you and your fellow snowflakes continue to regurgitate and parrot the same ol' opinionated BS!

Let's go for something simple. Show the entire board how you can stay focused on 1 thing AND BE HONEST:

The FBI declared they found over 15,000 official documents on Hillary's server that she had never turned in, AS RESUIRED BY THE FOIA AND FEDERAL RECORDS ACT.

Do you agree that failing to do as required by the law more than 15,000 times means HILLARY BROKE THE LAW?

(It's a 'No-Brainer', which means even YOU ought to be able to get this one right....my money is on the facct that you will refuse to answer, will spin, or lie and say 'no' just to keep protecting her ass...)

 

[easyt65]

He did more harm to this country than any outside threat

....AND, he was half-black (the "nerve" of Obama)........................LOL

Nice dodge of the damning FACT...what a useless tit...

 

[dave p]

He did more harm to this country than any outside threat

....AND, he was half-black (the "nerve" of Obama)........................LOL

What does that have to do with anything? Nothing!!!!

 

[nat4900]

He did more harm to this country than any outside threat.

Poor, poor Queasy.........For those 8 years of Obama's administration, he was a bit concerned about wearing his white sheet and pointed hood.......Now, under Trump, that dress-code is de rigueur among most Trump ass kissers.

“Suffering” under Obama’s 2-terms?

When Obama took office, the Dow was 6,626. When Obama left office, iit was 19,875. Has this caused your suffering?

We had 82 straight months of private sector job growth - the longest streak in the history of the United States. Has this caused your suffering?

Especially considering where the economy was when he took over, an amazing 11.3 million new jobs were created under President Obama (far more than President Bush). Has this caused your suffering?

Obama has taken Unemployment from 10% down to 4.7%. Has this caused your suffering?

Homelessness among US Veterans has dropped by half. Has this caused your suffering?

Obama shut down the US overseas’ secret prisons. Has this caused your suffering?

President Obama has created a policy for the families of fallen soldiers to have their travel paid for to be there when remains are flown home. Has this caused your suffering?

We landed a rover on Mars. Has this caused your suffering?

He passed the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Has this caused your suffering?

Uninsured adults has decreased to below 10%: 90% of adults are insured - an increase of 20 Million Adults. Has this caused your suffering?

People are now covered for pre-existing conditions. Has this caused your suffering?

Insurance Premiums increased an average of $4,677 from 2002-2008, an increase of 58% under Bush. The growth of these insurance premiums has gone up $4,145 – a slower rate of increase. Has this caused your suffering?

Obama added Billions of dollars to mental health care for our Veterans. Has this caused your suffering?

Consumer confidence has gone from 37.7 to 98.1 during Obama’s tenure. Has this caused your suffering?

He passed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Has this caused your suffering?

His bi-annual Nuclear Summit convinced 16 countries to give up and destroy all their loose nuclear material so it could not be stolen. Has this caused your suffering?

He saved the US Auto industry. American cars sold at the beginning of his term were 10.4M and upon his exit 17.5M. Has this caused your suffering?

The deficit as a percentage of the GDP has gone from 9.8% to 3.2%. Has this caused your suffering?

The deficit itself was cut by $800 Billion Dollars. Has this caused your suffering?

Obama preserved the middle class tax cuts. Has this caused your suffering?

Obama banned solitary confinement for juveniles in federal prisons. Has this caused your suffering?

He signed Credit Card reform so that rates could not be raised without you being notified. Has this caused your suffering?

He outlawed Government contractors from discriminating against LGBT persons. Has this caused your suffering?

He doubled Pell Grants. Has this caused your suffering?

Abortion is down. Has this caused your suffering?

Violent crime is down. Has this caused your suffering?

He overturned the scientific ban on stem cell research. Has this caused your suffering?

He protected Net Neutrality. Has this caused your suffering?

Obamacare has extended the life of the Medicare insurance trust fund (will be solvent until 2030). Has this caused your suffering?

President Obama repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell. Has this caused your suffering?

He banned torture. Has this caused your suffering?

He negotiated with Syria to give up its chemical weapons and they were destroyed. Has this caused your suffering?

Solar and Wind Power are at an all time high. Has this caused your suffering?

High School Graduation rates hit 83% - an all time high. Has this caused your suffering?

Corporate profits are up by 144%. Has this caused your suffering?

He normalized relations with Cuba. Has this caused your suffering?

Reliance on foreign oil is at a 40 year low. Has this caused your suffering?

US Exports are up 28%. Has this caused your suffering?

He appointed the most diverse cabinet ever. Has this caused your suffering?

He reduced the number of troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Has this caused your suffering?

Yes, he killed Osama Bin Laden and retrieved all the documents in his possession for analysis. Perhaps THIS caused your suffering?

Things were not perfect. Things can always be better. We are on much better footing now than we were in 2008.

 

[dave p]

Barak Obama ADMITTED He:

- Was sired by an Anti-Colonialist who wanted to see the US eliminated as a World Power and World influence
-- During college he connected with his father and changed his name to honor him

- Was tutored for years by Communist Frank Marshall Davis

- Studied Socialist Saul Alensky & quoted him during his Inauguration

- Was Mentored for decades by a racist, hate-spewing, anti-American

- Was friends with an un-apologetic domestic terrorists

Did liberals take all of this too lightly?


During his Presidency - over 8 years - Obama:
- Financed, supplied, supported, aided, abetted, armed, trained, protected, defended, and even dragged the US into Un-Constitutional, unapproved wars to help terrorists - to include Al Qaeda who slaughtered 3,000 Americans - take over their own country.

- In our war with terrorists rendered critical captured classified evidence / information we had obtained USELESS by broadcasting it to the world

- Aided terrorists, drug cartels, human traffickers, violent gangs, violent criminal illegals, and enemies to this country

- Violated both Constitution and Law

- Abandoned / sacrificed Americans to die at the hands of terrorists, illegally spied o Americans / reporters / the media / US Senators / USSC JUSTICES, GOP candidates, and a US President....Used a weaponized IRS against Americans who legally opposed his re-election

He did more harm to this country than any outside threat.

The difference here? Your post is rwnj propaganda, mine is a series of documented facts.

Actually those statements have been proven.