What GW Bush didn't do as President...

[Toddsterpatriot]

Changing the subject is a good idea if one was getting his/her ass kicked as badly as you are.



Class dismissed.

Hey Bush, Osama (who already attacked our embassies and declared war on us) wants to attack the US.

Great warning there. Bush should have stopped any attack, based on that very specific warning. LOL!

Now you're just making yourself look completely foolish (not unlike many neo-cons on this board).

Try reading the memo (parts of which were "blacked out" by the Bush administration).

Part of it.......

We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.

Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

Now stop making a total ass of yourself. You argued and got your ass kicked.




Again......Class dismissed.

We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft

I guess Clinton should have killed that guy when he had the chance, eh?

 

[Sallow]

It's amazing anyone tries to defend this bullshit.

George W. Bush was such a bad president..it was criminal.

they complain about blaming Bush but they keep trying to rewrite history of Bush.

So I take it you don't believe there was $5 trillion in losses due to Dot.com bust?

You also don't think 9/11 occurred?

Or NONE of the worst hurricanes in history occurred?

Those events NEVER happened then?

NONE of which were the fault of Clinton except the Gorelick Memo which prevented CIA from sharing with FBI Chinese donations to Clinton in exchange for missile technology.. which would not allow CIA to share with FBI about 9/11 hijackers...

And NO ONE blames ANYONE for the worst hurricanes in history..
BUT what do you think happened to the Trillions of dollars of businesses, assets, stock, inventory, lost revenue that those events caused?

ARe you totally UNAWARE that the IRS allows tax payers to subtract those $ 8 trillion in losses over 30 years and this was about $200 billion a year that started in 2002 and continues??
AND you don't think that had any affect?

You got that so damn backwards.

The REPUBLICANS STOPPED Clinton from hardening the airports..and Killing Bin Laden. They would not authorize special forces to get him.

And the laughed when he hit Bin Laden's compound with missiles..saying he was trying to wag the dog.

Everything else in the post is nonsense. The "Dot Com Bust" was largely over..and the money that was lost was rich people's.

 

[rightwinger]

Hey Bush, Osama (who already attacked our embassies and declared war on us) wants to attack the US.

Great warning there. Bush should have stopped any attack, based on that very specific warning. LOL!

Now you're just making yourself look completely foolish (not unlike many neo-cons on this board).

Try reading the memo (parts of which were "blacked out" by the Bush administration).

Part of it.......

We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.

Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

Now stop making a total ass of yourself. You argued and got your ass kicked.




Again......Class dismissed.

We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft

I guess Clinton should have killed that guy when he had the chance, eh?

He got closer than Bush who diverted the war on terror to attack Iraq

 

[Sallow]

The GOP trashed Clinton for trying to kill Bin Laden

Awww, poor Bill. Maybe Monica can help cheer him up?

Changing the subject is a good idea if one was getting his/her ass kicked as badly as you are.



Class dismissed.

Hey Bush, Osama (who already attacked our embassies and declared war on us) wants to attack the US.

Great warning there. Bush should have stopped any attack, based on that very specific warning. LOL!

Four planes were hijacked. They were in the air for over an hour. The only plane that anyone even tried to stop was the one heading for washington..to the area where Dick Cheney was staying.

So..more money spent on a military then all other militaries, combined, and still can't stop 4 subsonic commercial planes in the air for an hour.

That was either gross incompetence or gross stupidity.

Take your pick.

 

[Sallow]

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It's amazing anyone tries to defend this bullshit.

George W. Bush was such a bad president..it was criminal.

And President Obama is seen as 4 more years of the same.

I agree GWB was a loser. The only question in my mind is will President Obama be seen as better or worse.

Either way...he is still a loser.

Yeah..like Bush he had to be installed by the Supreme Court..

Oh wait.

He won the popular vote by over 10 million.

Sounds like he is a winner!

 

[Dragon]

Typical MO for healthmyths is to present a whole lot of data supporting an argument that is flawed in its premise. The invitation is for people to concentrate on the data presented, when the proper response is to point out the flaw in the premise making all of the data irrelevant.

That's the case here once more. It is completely inappropriate to compare the Bush and Obama administrations. Bush was president during the last eight years of an Unraveling era, while Obama is our first Crisis-era president (except the last few MONTHS of Bush's second term, and that don't count). Radically different circumstances = impossibility of doing a valid one-to-one comparison.

On the other hand, Clinton was also an Unraveling-era president, as was the elder Bush, and Ronald Reagan in his second (but not first) term. So it's reasonable to compare any of them to what Bush did. But I will leave that to others.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Now you're just making yourself look completely foolish (not unlike many neo-cons on this board).

Try reading the memo (parts of which were "blacked out" by the Bush administration).

Part of it.......


Now stop making a total ass of yourself. You argued and got your ass kicked.




Again......Class dismissed.

We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft

I guess Clinton should have killed that guy when he had the chance, eh?

He got closer than Bush who diverted the war on terror to attack Iraq

He didn't get close enough, did he?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Changing the subject is a good idea if one was getting his/her ass kicked as badly as you are.



Class dismissed.

Hey Bush, Osama (who already attacked our embassies and declared war on us) wants to attack the US.

Great warning there. Bush should have stopped any attack, based on that very specific warning. LOL!

Four planes were hijacked. They were in the air for over an hour. The only plane that anyone even tried to stop was the one heading for washington..to the area where Dick Cheney was staying.

So..more money spent on a military then all other militaries, combined, and still can't stop 4 subsonic commercial planes in the air for an hour.

That was either gross incompetence or gross stupidity.

Take your pick.

Was Clinton able to intercept commercial planes?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It's amazing anyone tries to defend this bullshit.

George W. Bush was such a bad president..it was criminal.

And President Obama is seen as 4 more years of the same.

I agree GWB was a loser. The only question in my mind is will President Obama be seen as better or worse.

Either way...he is still a loser.

Yeah..like Bush he had to be installed by the Supreme Court..

Oh wait.

He won the popular vote by over 10 million.

Sounds like he is a winner!

Hey, Obama, where are the JOBS?

 

[rightwinger]

We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft

I guess Clinton should have killed that guy when he had the chance, eh?

He got closer than Bush who diverted the war on terror to attack Iraq

He didn't get close enough, did he?

No.....Bush never even gave it a shot

 

[healthmyths]

Typical MO for healthmyths is to present a whole lot of data supporting an argument that is flawed in its premise. The invitation is for people to concentrate on the data presented, when the proper response is to point out the flaw in the premise making all of the data irrelevant.

That's the case here once more. It is completely inappropriate to compare the Bush and Obama administrations. Bush was president during the last eight years of an Unraveling era, while Obama is our first Crisis-era president (except the last few MONTHS of Bush's second term, and that don't count). Radically different circumstances = impossibility of doing a valid one-to-one comparison.

On the other hand, Clinton was also an Unraveling-era president, as was the elder Bush, and Ronald Reagan in his second (but not first) term. So it's reasonable to compare any of them to what Bush did. But I will leave that to others.

You wrote"present a whole lot of data supporting an argument that is flawed in its premise."

WHAT was the "flawed Premise"?
BUSH didn't apologize!
Bush didn't complain!
THE facts are FACTS!
Did the Dot.com bust happen..YES!
Did it cause $5 trillion in losses..YES!
Did 9/11 happen? YES and it cause $2 trillion losses
Worst hurricanes happened YES caused $1 trillion.
How complicated is to understand the treasury didn't get $200 billion a year
because these losses were being written off? Is that complicated?
Then we have job losses! Nearly 2 million due to dot.com/911/hurricanes!
WHY are those premises "flawed"? THEY happened!
Then we have the MSM every day badgering Bush about the "poor economy"
which was sooo bad at
Prime
Inflation Interest rate Unemployment
2001 2.80% 9.00% 4.70%
2002 1.60% 4.25% 5.80%
2003 2.30% 4.00% 6.00%
2004 2.70% 5.25% 5.50%
2005 3.40% 7.25% 5.10%
2006 3.20% 8.25% 4.60%
2007 2.80% 7.75% 4.60%
2008 3.80% 3.25% 5.80%

Would it be sooo bad now???

All your "unraveling/raveling" voodoo economic theory may be TRUE!
BUT I am showing the FACTS which seem to be totally ignored by you mumbo jumbo people...
FACTS are the economy was good .. in spite of dot.com/9/11/hurricanes!
And idiots like you that supported the terrorists by encouraging the terrorists to keep on using little kids as bombs while our troops handed out candy and you and Kerry/Reid/Obama you all blamed our troops..called them terrorists.. you called them civilian killers!
And you have the total audacity to claim "free speech" which was being provided to 28 million people that you wanted to see still living under a dictator! Then this same idiot president who called military methodically air-raiding villages killing civilians.. ATTACKED Libya and has troops now in Africa and Australia!
AND you have the stupidity to call Bush a "LOSER"????

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He got closer than Bush who diverted the war on terror to attack Iraq

He didn't get close enough, did he?

No.....Bush never even gave it a shot

Bush wasn't President when Clinton dropped the ball.

 

[American Horse]

What a load of dog shit.

Karl Rove claims Bush didn't blame Clinton for the '01 recession. Oh really? | Crooks and Liars

From our link; Bush blaming Carter, Reagan, Clinton:

Bush Blames Carter, Reagan, Clinton for 9/11
By Judd Legum on Aug 30, 2005 at 1:55 pm

As his poll numbers sink, Bush is getting desperate. From his address today in San Diego:

They looked at our response after the hostage crisis in Iran, the bombings of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the first World Trade Center attack, the killing of American soldiers in Somalia, the destruction of two U.S. embassies in Africa, and the attack on the USS Cole. They concluded that free societies lacked the courage and character to defend themselves against a determined enemy… After September the 11th, 2001, we’ve taught the terrorists a very different lesson: America will not run in defeat and we will not forget our responsibilities.

He was right, and he was not blaming anyone. He was simply pointing out a national behavorial/institutional weakness we exhibited theretofore, and declared we're getting over that.

 

[rightwinger]

He didn't get close enough, did he?

No.....Bush never even gave it a shot

Bush wasn't President when Clinton dropped the ball.

Clinton didn't have 3000 Americans killed on his watch

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No.....Bush never even gave it a shot

Bush wasn't President when Clinton dropped the ball.

Clinton didn't have 3000 Americans killed on his watch

Why didn't Clinton kill Osama when he had the chance?

 

[healthmyths]

What Bush didn't do in office:

Deal with an economic collapse, an exploding national debt, and two wars that were dumped in his lap by his predecessor.

1) Let's talk about "Economic collapse" and more specifically are you aware of the Economic terror attack that occurred 9/18/2008?
Evidently YOU are totally ignorant about how the world ECONOMY would have collapsed if THE USA didn't at that point step in!
Did you know that Soros and his ilk were part of a group withdrawal of $500 BILLION in 2.5 hours from the $4 trillion money market funds that for the first time in HISTORY would have "broke the buck" a term obviously you know nothing about!
2) Exploding national debt!
IDIOT... what do you think I was writing about when I said..
IRS allows 30 years to write off losses against income and with
$8 trillion losses from dot.com/9/11/hurricanes..
IDIOT... that is $200 billion a year starting in 2002 that was NOT
collected and therefore not available to pay BUDGETS that were
BASED ON having $200 billion more a year!
Have you heard any of that from the beloved MSM?????
3)Two wars dumped!
YOU frigging idiot!
A) Clinton signed the The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 Public law 105-338 expressed the sense of congress it should be policy to support efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime.

WHY do you think CLINTON did that you dummy???
Why do you think CLINTON fired In the first three months of 1999, U.S. led-forces bombarded Iraq with 241,000 pounds of bombsjust shy of the 253,000 pounds dropped under President Bush in the eight months leading up to the final UN resolution before the war.By August of 1999, American and British pilots had fired more than 1,100 missiles against 359 targetsthat year alone.
ALL BEFORE BUSH INTO IRAQ AND YOU SAY "DUMPED"????

BUT then IDIOTS like you HELPED the terrorists to prolong IRAQ by calling our troops terrorists, or Obama's calling our military for air raiding villages..yea that was good for recruiting terrorists!!!

Why is it so hard to see what that prick and other pricks did to help prolong the war and seriously want the USA to lose?

I really don't understand how complicated it is to understand these guys and evidently YOU were cheerleaders for the Terrorists!
YOU cheered at Gitmo. You CHEERED abu ghrib!
You cheered when our troops were killed... YOU WANTED photos of their bodies coming back and YOU CHEERED for that!
Explain why else Harvard's study showed when CHEERING like this occurred there was a measureable 10% increase in Iraq after statements like these:

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets --action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost",
U.S. Rep. Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
Senator Kerry(D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the
dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."
Senator Obama(D) .."troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

AND YOU fuckers have the AUDACITY to call Bush a LOSER after you were ball less cheerleaders for the Terrorists.

 

[AmericanFirst]

No.....Bush never even gave it a shot

Bush wasn't President when Clinton dropped the ball.

Clinton didn't have 3000 Americans killed on his watch

No but clinton failed to get bin laden when he was offered his head on a silver plater.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Bush wasn't President when Clinton dropped the ball.

Clinton didn't have 3000 Americans killed on his watch

Why didn't Clinton kill Osama when he had the chance?

Because like obamaturd he is a spineless coward.

 

[Chris]

 

[healthmyths]

No.....Bush never even gave it a shot

Bush wasn't President when Clinton dropped the ball.

GORELICK MEMO/WALL!!!!

Clinton didn't have 3000 Americans killed on his watch
AM I glad YOU brought that up!!!!!

"C.I.A. officials of deliberately withholding crucial documents and photographs of Qaeda operatives from the F.B.I."
Known as the Gorelick Memo...
"As Deputy Attorney General under Bill Clinton from 1994 to 1997 Jamie Gorelick wrote the memo that created the now infamous “Gorelick Wall.” A 1995 memo she wrote,
stated explicitly that they would “go beyond what is legally required, [to] prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.”
These rules were, shortly after their creation, expanded to regulate such communications in future counter-terrorism investigations.
It set a procedure where various intelligence operations could not share information with each other.
Jamie Gorelick’s wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, already in custody on an immigration violation shortly before 9/11.
At the time, an enraged FBI investigator wrote a prophetic memo to headquarters about the wall
‘Whatever has happened to this — someday someone will die — and wall or not — the public will not understand why we were not more effective in throwing every resource we had at certain problems…..especially since the biggest threat to us UBL [Usama bin Laden], is getting the most protection.
» Jamie Gorelick Who ‘Helped to Bring us 9/11 AND Housing Collapse’ Is On Short List to Lead FBI - Big Government

Here is what Richard A. Clark, former counter-terrorism advisor for both the Clinton and Bush Administrations, testified to in prepared remarks before the Sept. 11 Commission on March 24, 2004:
“In retrospect, we know that there was information available to some in the FBI and CIA that al Qida [sic] operatives had entered the United States. That information was not shared with the senior FBI counter-terrorism official (Dale Watson) or with me, despite the heightened state of concern in the Counter-terrorism Security Group.”
Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented? The Gorelick Memo and What We Knew

NOW WHY did the Gorelick Memo and subsequent WALL come into being???

It should be noted that when Gorelick penned the aforementioned memo, President Clinton was extremely worried about ongoing FBI and CIA investigations into illegal Chinese contributions that had been made to his presidential campaign. Both the FBI and the CIA were churning up evidence damaging to the Democratic Party, its fundraisers, the Chinese, and ultimately the Clinton administration itself.
The Wall of Separation between Law-Enforcement and Intelligence - Discover the Networks