What governs us?

[Woodznutz]

Q. Are we governed by Federal, State, and local laws?
Q. Are we governed by what we have been taught?
Q. Are we governed by a sense of morality?
Q. Are we governed by our expectations, or the expectations of others?
A. Yes, to some extent, all of the above.

But what governs or influences most of our actions and behaviors is our basic human nature, which is largely ungovernable by outside influences or forces. In fact, we are generally in rebellion against any other form of governance.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

Was there a point to this?

 

[whitehall]

The Constitution.

 

[Woodznutz]

Was there a point to this?

The point is that we as a species are largely ungovernable, thus the problems that we have brought upon ourselves. Governance, whether from within or without, brings order. We are a disorderly lot socially even while being personally orderly.

 

[BackAgain]

We are soveriegn.

We have a Constitution and we operate under it in the form of a Consitutional republic.

While it often falls short of being handled by our politicians and other elected officials (and even by judges) in that manner, that doesn’t change the answering.

 

[task0778]

Q. Are we governed by a sense of morality?

Doesn't seem like a lot of that going around. Sometimes it's more of a sense of what's in my best interests?

 

[Woodznutz]

We are soveriegn.

We have a Constitution and we operate under it in the form of a Consitutional republic.

While it often falls short of being handled by our politicians and other elected officials (and even by judges) in that manner, that doesn’t change the answering.

The Constitution only reaches so far down into society. Personal rights are routinely violated by the governing authorities who have no concern for Constitutional rights.
The most egregious violation is of the "general welfare" clause.

 

[Woodznutz]

Doesn't seem like a lot of that going around. Sometimes it's more of a sense of what's in my best interests?

Zackly.

 

[BackAgain]

The Constitution only reaches so far down into society. Personal rights are routinely violated by the governing authorities who have no concern for Constitutional rights.
The most egregious violation is of the "general welfare" clause.

I am a conservative so I appreciate it when people recognize any improper intrusion of our personal rights. I also complain about on principle Wuhan those intrusions do violate our Constitutional rights.

As a basis for legislation, the general welfare clause does not trump the enumerated powers.

 

[saveliberty]

What governs us? What we are willing to tolerate as a society.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Was there a point to this?

If there was, I missed it too! I think the OP is the master of the obvious with this one!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The point is that we as a species are largely ungovernable, thus the problems that we have brought upon ourselves. Governance, whether from within or without, brings order. We are a disorderly lot socially even while being personally orderly.

False statement.

 

[Meathead]

Q. Are we governed by Federal, State, and local laws?
Q. Are we governed by what we have been taught?
Q. Are we governed by a sense of morality?
Q. Are we governed by our expectations, or the expectations of others?
A. Yes, to some extent, all of the above.

But what governs or influences most of our actions and behaviors is our basic human nature, which is largely ungovernable by outside influences or forces. In fact, we are generally in rebellion against any other form of governance.

We are governed by human nature.

 

[Dorian Mode]

A political establishment, funded by the top .1%, that manages the federal government through Big Money for the benefit of the top .1%. It's been like that for almost 250 years now.

 

[Woodznutz]

We are governed by human nature.

Which is a mixture of good and evil.

 

[Woodznutz]

A political establishment, funded by the top .1%, that manages the federal government through Big Money for the benefit of the top .1%. It's been like that for almost 250 years now.

We can cut into that power if we choose to.

 

[JGalt]

Q. Are we governed by Federal, State, and local laws?
Q. Are we governed by what we have been taught?
Q. Are we governed by a sense of morality?
Q. Are we governed by our expectations, or the expectations of others?
A. Yes, to some extent, all of the above.

But what governs or influences most of our actions and behaviors is our basic human nature, which is largely ungovernable by outside influences or forces. In fact, we are generally in rebellion against any other form of governance.

Fear of losing something. Whether it's man's law or God's law, you risk the possibility of losing your property, your freedom, your life, or your soul if you violate them.

 

[Foxfyre]

Q. Are we governed by Federal, State, and local laws?
Q. Are we governed by what we have been taught?
Q. Are we governed by a sense of morality?
Q. Are we governed by our expectations, or the expectations of others?
A. Yes, to some extent, all of the above.

But what governs or influences most of our actions and behaviors is our basic human nature, which is largely ungovernable by outside influences or forces. In fact, we are generally in rebellion against any other form of governance.

The Founders structured a nation called the United States of America on the concept that a free people, guided and restrained by shared basic concepts of Christian morality, would make mistakes, get things wrong, would need to regroup and try again at times. But ultimately they would establish social contract in a way that provided reasonable laws and responsibilities as necessary to secure their unalienable rights. Otherwise each citizen would enjoy liberty, choices, options, opportunity to pursue the American dream as best they could.

In other words, they would be under no dictator, monarch, authoritarian pope, totalitarian oligarchy, or any other such authority. A central government would impose such laws/rules/regulation as absolutely necessary in order for the various states to function as one nation and not do violence to one another. Otherwise it was given no authority to do anything that the private sector could do.

The people would govern themselves.

 

[Woodznutz]

Fear of losing something. Whether it's man's law or God's law, you risk the possibility of losing your property, your freedom, your life, or your soul if you violate them.

Good point.

 

[Meathead]

Which is a mixture of good and evil.

Ultimately, to survive and prosper. And yes, human nature is a mix of good and evil.