What does Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, & Rush Limbaugh have in common?

[Murf76]

Stuttering LimpTard also says quite frequently that he never said he hoped average hard-working Americans would suffer the loss of their jobs.

October 31, 2008
RUSH: Joe the Plumber. Now, Joe the Plumber is an average citizen

November 5, 2008
RUSH: I hope all your Joe the Plumbers are unemployed in six months! There.

February 13, 2009
RUSH: I Hope the Stimulus Package Fails
I hope it prolongs the recession.

July 13, 2009
RUSH: I did not want 10% unemployment and going higher. I did not want people losing jobs. I did not want the economy stagnating.

Blah, blah, blah.

You've got quite the pervy mancrush on Rush, dontcha?
All of these little blurbs, disregarding of context, aren't going to fool anyone who's actually listened to the program.

The Porkulus bill was bound to fail because... it was STUPID. No one with half a brain needed Rush Limbaugh or a Magic Eight Ball to tell them that.

Interesting how you seem to believe that Limbaugh can wish some ill-will on your ideological agenda and it magically causes it to fail. He's like some scary voodoo witchdoctor in your book, huh?

Don't look now... {gasp!}.... he's standing right behind you.....


{
BOO!!!

(Ha- ha! Made ya look! )

 

[edthecynic]

Stuttering LimpTard also says quite frequently that he never said he hoped average hard-working Americans would suffer the loss of their jobs.

October 31, 2008
RUSH: Joe the Plumber. Now, Joe the Plumber is an average citizen

November 5, 2008
RUSH: I hope all your Joe the Plumbers are unemployed in six months! There.

February 13, 2009
RUSH: I Hope the Stimulus Package Fails
I hope it prolongs the recession.

July 13, 2009
RUSH: I did not want 10% unemployment and going higher. I did not want people losing jobs. I did not want the economy stagnating.

Blah, blah, blah.

You've got quite the pervy mancrush on Rush, dontcha?
All of these little blurbs, disregarding of context, aren't going to fool anyone who's actually listened to the program.

Still projecting, I see.

The context of each of those quotes is so obvious, you have no choice but make personal attacks as you are programmed to do.

How many times does he have to lie and contradict himself before you stop swallowing his BS?

December 11, 2007
RUSH: By the way, I want to renew a bet. I will bet my life's fortune against Algore's that what he predicts in 2030 will not happen...
I made this offer six months ago, and I'll make it again in future days

December 20, 2007
Caller Proposes Recession Bet
RUSH: I wouldn't enter into a wager ... publicly because I choose not too violate federal gambling laws.

 

[MaggieMae]

As for the GM payback, I agree that the company has embellished the real deal in TV ads (which hopefully will sell cars, so who cares?). However, the point is they paid the portion back that they agreed to pay back 5 years earlier than agreed. Money is money, and Treasury can use all they can get at this point. GM did not suck up all the funds in an effort to stay afloat, and they did not ask for more money as all the RW pundits smugly projected.

The better point is that sales are coming back faster than anticipated and that allowed them to pay back the money, and as a result, 250,000 people were able to stay gainfully employed.

No, Maggie. They used taxpayer dollars to pay back taxpayer dollars. They took money from one pocket and put it into another. It's a scam and a lie... and not one word to set the matter straight by your precious Obama.

He and his entire administration are the most deliberately dishonest bunch of assholes to ever skulk through the halls of Washington. And it pisses the left off to no end that they can't FORCE people not to talk about it.

No comment? Aren't you guys the ones screeching that it's Obama's responsibility to personally(?) start creating jobs? This was an opportunity to keep people employed, and hire new people. But I guess that's a bad thing. Plus, GM paying back only a portion of their loan doesn't mean eventually they won't be able to pay all of it back. Unless of course your Magic 8 ball sez otherwise.

 

[MaggieMae]

Googling "Obama Lies" is tantamount to punching in "Bush Lies" (of which there are millions of pages). Most of them are blogsites or articles from the opposition. It's a meaningless effort. Someday, maybe even small minds will learn how to weed out truth on the Internet.

You don't have to go to any sites that you have an ideological bias against. There are plenty of other choices in all those many pages of "Obama lies". I believe Snopes is on page one. Have at it. Find out just who it is that you're carrying water for every day.

It's easier to snark about "weeding out the truth" than it is to actually do it, isn't it Mags? 'Cause if you did, you might see something you don't like.

Nice try, but I would reference Snopes.com if I were you. I went there, and the first (and only) page using "Obama Lies" turned up falsities for every one but two, one of which attributed correctly the author only and the second was an "undetermined" photograph of his mother in the nude.

I'm aware of what you people consider "lies," and I'm also fully aware of those situations where Obama or someone in his administration has deftly used spin. But there is a HUGE difference, my friend.

 

[MaggieMae]

No, Murf, it pisses you off that it has worked economically, and you have tried to pass off one of the more dishonest hack comments since Dude's work last week.

Give us the evidence of the scam, all right?

I posted one link already. Here's another:
Hot Air Blog Archive How did GM pay off its bailout loans?

And here's some back story:
Gas in the tank: GM repays $8.1B in gov't loans - Yahoo! Finance

It's not difficult information to come by. Google is your friend, man.

I don't know how anyone figures it's a "scam," when the balance still owing from the loan, $45.3 billion, is projected to be repaid when the GM sells stock to the public.

 

[Murf76]

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No comment? Aren't you guys the ones screeching that it's Obama's responsibility to personally(?) start creating jobs? This was an opportunity to keep people employed, and hire new people. But I guess that's a bad thing. Plus, GM paying back only a portion of their loan doesn't mean eventually they won't be able to pay all of it back. Unless of course your Magic 8 ball sez otherwise.

Tell it to the people of Spring Hill, TN, who lost Saturn because GM wouldn't give enough mechanical support to close the Penske deal. Tell it to the countless dealers who had their businesses pretty much handed over to their local competitors without explanation. Tell it to the bondholders who got screwed in Obama's "surgical" bankruptcy in order to protect his UAW goons.

The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT decided who the winners and who the losers were going to be. Do you honestly think that by any stretch of the imagination the fucking federal government should be deciding who gets to keep their job and who loses it... in the PRIVATE sector? Really?

Read the links I posted earlier. Lots of people got hurt. And taxpayers are paying the bill so that Barack Obama and his cronies can make politically expedient choices.

You can't be a player on the field *AND* the referee. Not with any semblance of credibility anyway.

 

[Murf76]

Still projecting, I see.

The context of each of those quotes is so obvious, you have no choice but make personal attacks as you are programmed to do.

How many times does he have to lie and contradict himself before you stop swallowing his BS?

December 11, 2007
RUSH: By the way, I want to renew a bet. I will bet my life's fortune against Algore's that what he predicts in 2030 will not happen...
I made this offer six months ago, and I'll make it again in future days

December 20, 2007
Caller Proposes Recession Bet
RUSH: I wouldn't enter into a wager ... publicly because I choose not too violate federal gambling laws.

Pathetic. You still haven't managed to regale us all with how Rush Limbaugh is directly affecting your life, but you expect us to take seriously your childish deflection on some pointless 'gotcha' contradiction.

Get a life, man. Really. Put down your Rush Limbaugh blow-up doll and get out of the basement for awhile.

 

[edthecynic]

That's another myth. What's scary about them is that there are so many millions who cling to every word they utter as if it's gospel truth. I couldn't give a shit what THEY say--only that when they say something totally inaccurate, or perpetuate an already debunked "story," you and your ilk believe it anyway.

Barack Obama and his Merry Band of Socialist Thieves believe that the American People are innately stupid.

Well there you go again, parroting your programming expressed in the first quote in my sig by projecting CON$ervoFascist ideology onto those you've been programmed to hate.

Here is your MessiahRushie stating outright his utter contempt and hatred for American Citizens.

December 10, 2008
DEMINT: Americans are not stupid.

RUSH: Yes, they are.

Still projecting, I see.

The context of each of those quotes is so obvious, you have no choice but make personal attacks as you are programmed to do.

How many times does he have to lie and contradict himself before you stop swallowing his BS?

December 11, 2007
RUSH: By the way, I want to renew a bet. I will bet my life's fortune against Algore's that what he predicts in 2030 will not happen...
I made this offer six months ago, and I'll make it again in future days

December 20, 2007
Caller Proposes Recession Bet
RUSH: I wouldn't enter into a wager ... publicly because I choose not too violate federal gambling laws.

Pathetic. You still haven't managed to regale us all with how Rush Limbaugh is directly affecting your life, but you expect us to take seriously your childish deflection on some pointless 'gotcha' contradiction.

Get a life, man. Really. Put down your Rush Limbaugh blow-up doll and get out of the basement for awhile.

You just can't stop your projections.

This started with you projecting LimpTard's CON$ervative contempt for the American people and has nothing to do with how your MessiahRushie affects my life other than deflecting from your projection.

Jan 3, 2008
RUSH: I know I have a lot of power. I don't think about it. I don't consciously try to exercise it. (to staff) I do not, I don't care what you're laughing about in there, I -- (interruption) What? I do what? I don't sink people. They sink themselves. Dawn's in there being very wifey. I'm sitting here, I'm being honest, and I'm saying I know I've got a lot of power

 

[Murf76]

You just can't stop your projections.

This started with you projecting LimpTard's CON$ervative contempt for the American people and has nothing to do with how your MessiahRushie affects my life other than deflecting from your projection.

Jan 3, 2008
RUSH: I know I have a lot of power. I don't think about it. I don't consciously try to exercise it. (to staff) I do not, I don't care what you're laughing about in there, I -- (interruption) What? I do what? I don't sink people. They sink themselves. Dawn's in there being very wifey. I'm sitting here, I'm being honest, and I'm saying I know I've got a lot of power

The only power Rush Limbaugh has is to frighten little squawking chickens like YOU. You're the one who gives him status. He can't make legislation; can't make any dictatorial mandates. He doesn't set foreign policy or decide tax rates. It's YOU who makes him important by hanging on to every word. It's not me who goes around quoting Rush Limbaugh every post. That's YOU.

He's not stupid. He KNOWS hes in your head. That's the power that he recognizes... the power that YOU and every other leftist talking-head who can't get over the fact that he's got a microphone and an audience GIVE to him. He has the "power" to make a comment and start every last one of you clucking like a bunch of barnyard hens.

Heck, you can't blame the guy for being amused by that. It's funny.

 

[Madeline]

Hey MaggieMae, you have outted me. I lied on my profile. I'm really a smokin' hot 19 year old swedish chicklet with a trust fund and a sex addition. Ah am soooo ahshamed...and easily led.

But Ah digress.

Old age ain't for pussies anymore, Ma'am. But yanno? Some pussies are baitches, and some are just c-nts.

Ah say if ya got one, embrace your inner baitch.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww69vIhVIOs]YouTube - Kathy Bates in Dolores Claiborne (Sometimes Being A Bitch..)[/ame]

 

[edthecynic]

You just can't stop your projections.

This started with you projecting LimpTard's CON$ervative contempt for the American people and has nothing to do with how your MessiahRushie affects my life other than deflecting from your projection.

Jan 3, 2008
RUSH: I know I have a lot of power. I don't think about it. I don't consciously try to exercise it. (to staff) I do not, I don't care what you're laughing about in there, I -- (interruption) What? I do what? I don't sink people. They sink themselves. Dawn's in there being very wifey. I'm sitting here, I'm being honest, and I'm saying I know I've got a lot of power

The only power Rush Limbaugh has is to frighten little squawking chickens like YOU. You're the one who gives him status. He can't make legislation; can't make any dictatorial mandates. He doesn't set foreign policy or decide tax rates. It's YOU who makes him important by hanging on to every word. It's not me who goes around quoting Rush Limbaugh every post. That's YOU.

He's not stupid. He KNOWS hes in your head. That's the power that he recognizes... the power that YOU and every other leftist talking-head who can't get over the fact that he's got a microphone and an audience GIVE to him. He has the "power" to make a comment and start every last one of you clucking like a bunch of barnyard hens.

Heck, you can't blame the guy for being amused by that. It's funny.

There you go again still just projecting. You are mindlessly parroting his words as your own so obviously he lives rent free in YOUR head.

You are just pissed that a nothing like me can make a complete fool of the MessiahRushie you worship. But I'm not the only nobody who can make a fool of your Gawwwwwd-da. Remember the bet contradiction I posted earlier? In 2007 the caller offering the bet and everyone else with a brain knew about the economic disaster coming, including LimpTard which is why he refused to bet even $500 to save face, proof he is not only a pathological liar, but a premeditated liar. The caller was infinitely more "prescient" than the "all seeing, all knowing MessiahRushie."

NOW he says there was no way Obama could have known how bad the economy was in 2007 when he warned of the coming problems without SOROS telling him. LimpTard suffers from Soros Derangement Syndrome.

Are you stupid enough to believe the caller "had a hand in it?"

Caller Proposes Recession Bet
December 20, 2007
CALLER: I was hoping that I might make a wager with you and, to be fair, it was based on income. So I'm saying that the economy is going to have a major recession to a depression, within the next two to three years -- and I base that belief on the housing market. A case where people are tapped out with equity; they've been living the good life, and now that spigot is shut off. Now they're going to credit cards and they're showing through the roof on defaults. I think it's just a matter of time before this house of cards collapses. What do you thinks? [sic]

RUSH: Nope. I don't think it's going to happen. I've been hearing things like this my whole life. I've been hearing the national debt is going to wipe us out. I've been hearing the annual deficit is going to wipe us out. I've been hearing the credit card debt and that people are not saving enough money, is going to wipe us out. I keep hearing that Social Security is going to wipe us out in 50 years unless we reform it. I think that the country is built on far more than a house of cards, and I wouldn't enter into a wager lining [sic - like] this publicly because I choose not too violate federal gambling laws.

CALLER: (laughs) Yes, sir.

RUSH: (laughs) But what were you willingly to put on the line for this?

CALLER: I was going to put my $500.

RUSH: Five hundred dollars. Well, look, if you're right, you can't afford to lose $500.

CALLER: Well, I think that's so, but I think the money I'd win from you would be well worth it.

RUSH: Do you think a president can stop the slide that's imminent?

CALLER: No, Rush, and I think the housing market this time is something like the country's never seen. It has never soared so high in the history, since they started keeping numbers. They can't compare it to any time in history except Japan, where it happened in 1984, and theirs is still coming down.

RUSH: Well, I'm amazed that people can take the news on a day like this. See, I think you're being helped along by the context and the attitude in which all of this is reported: the doom and gloom. For example, you make it sound like everybody who owns a house is going to go bust, because they're going to lose their equity in it, then they're going to turn to credit cards and they're going to get cut off from those and then they're going to be up a creek. Ninety-four percent of mortgage holders are making payments on time: 94%. Now, that might be better if it were 98, but the point is it's not 50. It's not 60. It's 94%. So the roots of the so-called housing crisis, I don't think they're deep, and certainly it's not as bad as it's being portrayed.

April 22, 2010
RUSH: Keep in mind you're listening to President Obama, a guy who has never, ever held a real job in a productive economy. The only thing he knows about money is how to spend other people's. He doesn't know how to earn it; he doesn't know anything about capital formation; he could not have known in 2007 what was coming. He has no experience. Somebody had to tell him what was coming in 2007, meaning the crash in 2008. He didn't have any experience to know. Somebody had to know, somebody had to tell him, for that somebody to know they had to have a hand in it. Can anybody say George Soros?

 

[MaggieMae]

[
No comment? Aren't you guys the ones screeching that it's Obama's responsibility to personally(?) start creating jobs? This was an opportunity to keep people employed, and hire new people. But I guess that's a bad thing. Plus, GM paying back only a portion of their loan doesn't mean eventually they won't be able to pay all of it back. Unless of course your Magic 8 ball sez otherwise.

Tell it to the people of Spring Hill, TN, who lost Saturn because GM wouldn't give enough mechanical support to close the Penske deal. Tell it to the countless dealers who had their businesses pretty much handed over to their local competitors without explanation. Tell it to the bondholders who got screwed in Obama's "surgical" bankruptcy in order to protect his UAW goons.

The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT decided who the winners and who the losers were going to be. Do you honestly think that by any stretch of the imagination the fucking federal government should be deciding who gets to keep their job and who loses it... in the PRIVATE sector? Really?

Read the links I posted earlier. Lots of people got hurt. And taxpayers are paying the bill so that Barack Obama and his cronies can make politically expedient choices.

You can't be a player on the field *AND* the referee. Not with any semblance of credibility anyway.

Now that you've already had a cow, I'll remind you that I was talking about CURRENT jobs within GM that will be saved, not the history of who and why others got canned a year ago when all of this was going down.

And by the way, if you and your ilk don't expect OBAMA AND HIS CRONIES to "do something" about the unemployment situation, then stop demanding that he do so. Obviously, he can't do any more than he already has, but I suppose it would behoove you to check out a few facts, like the incentives and tax credits given to small businesses to enable them to hire.

 

[MaggieMae]

Hey MaggieMae, you have outted me. I lied on my profile. I'm really a smokin' hot 19 year old swedish chicklet with a trust fund and a sex addition. Ah am soooo ahshamed...and easily led.

But Ah digress.

Old age ain't for pussies anymore, Ma'am. But yanno? Some pussies are baitches, and some are just c-nts.

Ah say if ya got one, embrace your inner baitch.

YouTube - Kathy Bates in Dolores Claiborne (Sometimes Being A Bitch..)

Well...a helpful hint: I wouldn't start getting into pissing matches just for the hell of it. Your credibility will sink faster than the Titanic. There are only a select few here who will cause me turn into Mrs. Hyde.

 

[Murf76]

Now that you've already had a cow, I'll remind you that I was talking about CURRENT jobs within GM that will be saved, not the history of who and why others got canned a year ago when all of this was going down.

And by the way, if you and your ilk don't expect OBAMA AND HIS CRONIES to "do something" about the unemployment situation, then stop demanding that he do so. Obviously, he can't do any more than he already has, but I suppose it would behoove you to check out a few facts, like the incentives and tax credits given to small businesses to enable them to hire.

Current jobs? Really?....

GM plans to shift overseas production
David Shepardson / Detroit News Washington Bureau

Washington -- General Motors Corp. will shift more production of vehicles bound for the U.S. market to China, Mexico, South Korea and Japan, but will keep total imports at roughly one-third of all sales here.

In a confidential 12-page presentation to members of Congress, obtained by The Detroit News on Friday, GM said it will boost U.S. sales of vehicles built in those four countries by 98 percent -- or about 365,000 vehicles -- while shrinking production in Canada, Australia and European countries by about 130,000 vehicles.

GM also disclosed it will start importing vehicles made in China in 2011, reaching 51,546 vehicles in 2014. Imports from South Korea to the United States will jump from 36,967 vehicles in 2010 to 157,126 in 2014.

The automaker said it is canceling expansion projects in Russia, India and Mexico.

GM's plan to import more vehicles from low-wage countries raises questions about whether it should beef up its foreign operations as it is relying on federal money to stay afloat. It also puts the automaker at odds with the United Auto Workers, which is trying to protect U.S. jobs amid a dramatic restructuring of the domestic auto industry.

GM has faced strong protests from the union that its turnaround plan unfairly targets U.S. workers and plants for cuts. GM plans to trim 21,000 hourly workers and close 13 of its 47 U.S. plants by the end of 2010 as part of a tougher recovery plan sought by President Obama's auto task force. It will close three more U.S. plants by 2014.

(more...)

From The Detroit News: GM plans to shift overseas production | detnews.com | The Detroit News

The union goons over at the UAW might have ended up with ownership of fairly large chunks of both GM and Chrysler... but they didn't get ALL they wanted. In order to keep some of their fat benefit packages, they're having to take advantage of cheap, underpaid, overseas labor.

Barack Obama and his cronies are just another bunch of greasy politicians and worse than most. Because... they've hand-picked the winners and losers, and apparently, Spring Hill TN, located in a right-to-work state as you might note... wasn't among the winners.

Now we see GM claiming that its paid back the taxpayers, but they don't bother to tell us in their homey little ads that they used OUR MONEY to do it. And you know why they want to give the false impression that they're fully recovered???
It's so as to convince the public to take a chance on their crappy stock. IOW, with the full blessings of the Obama administration, they want to fool people into believing their stock is a worthwhile investment.

Yay Team Obama. He does your "ilk" so proud.


p.s. You know what Obama and his Pet Democrats could do to improve U.S. employment, don'tcha?
.... They could shove their moronic socialist policies right up their wrinkly old asses and get the hell out of our way.

 

[Murf76]

There you go again still just projecting. You are mindlessly parroting his words as your own so obviously he lives rent free in YOUR head.

You are just pissed that a nothing like me can make a complete fool of the MessiahRushie you worship. But I'm not the only nobody who can make a fool of your Gawwwwwd-da. Remember the bet contradiction I posted earlier? In 2007 the caller offering the bet and everyone else with a brain knew about the economic disaster coming, including LimpTard which is why he refused to bet even $500 to save face, proof he is not only a pathological liar, but a premeditated liar. The caller was infinitely more "prescient" than the "all seeing, all knowing MessiahRushie."

NOW he says there was no way Obama could have known how bad the economy was in 2007 when he warned of the coming problems without SOROS telling him. LimpTard suffers from Soros Derangement Syndrome.

Are you stupid enough to believe the caller "had a hand in it?"

Caller Proposes Recession Bet
December 20, 2007
CALLER: I was hoping that I might make a wager with you and, to be fair, it was based on income. So I'm saying that the economy is going to have a major recession to a depression, within the next two to three years -- and I base that belief on the housing market. A case where people are tapped out with equity; they've been living the good life, and now that spigot is shut off. Now they're going to credit cards and they're showing through the roof on defaults. I think it's just a matter of time before this house of cards collapses. What do you thinks? [sic]

RUSH: Nope. I don't think it's going to happen. I've been hearing things like this my whole life. I've been hearing the national debt is going to wipe us out. I've been hearing the annual deficit is going to wipe us out. I've been hearing the credit card debt and that people are not saving enough money, is going to wipe us out. I keep hearing that Social Security is going to wipe us out in 50 years unless we reform it. I think that the country is built on far more than a house of cards, and I wouldn't enter into a wager lining [sic - like] this publicly because I choose not too violate federal gambling laws.

CALLER: (laughs) Yes, sir.

RUSH: (laughs) But what were you willingly to put on the line for this?

CALLER: I was going to put my $500.

RUSH: Five hundred dollars. Well, look, if you're right, you can't afford to lose $500.

CALLER: Well, I think that's so, but I think the money I'd win from you would be well worth it.

RUSH: Do you think a president can stop the slide that's imminent?

CALLER: No, Rush, and I think the housing market this time is something like the country's never seen. It has never soared so high in the history, since they started keeping numbers. They can't compare it to any time in history except Japan, where it happened in 1984, and theirs is still coming down.

RUSH: Well, I'm amazed that people can take the news on a day like this. See, I think you're being helped along by the context and the attitude in which all of this is reported: the doom and gloom. For example, you make it sound like everybody who owns a house is going to go bust, because they're going to lose their equity in it, then they're going to turn to credit cards and they're going to get cut off from those and then they're going to be up a creek. Ninety-four percent of mortgage holders are making payments on time: 94%. Now, that might be better if it were 98, but the point is it's not 50. It's not 60. It's 94%. So the roots of the so-called housing crisis, I don't think they're deep, and certainly it's not as bad as it's being portrayed.

April 22, 2010
RUSH: Keep in mind you're listening to President Obama, a guy who has never, ever held a real job in a productive economy. The only thing he knows about money is how to spend other people's. He doesn't know how to earn it; he doesn't know anything about capital formation; he could not have known in 2007 what was coming. He has no experience. Somebody had to tell him what was coming in 2007, meaning the crash in 2008. He didn't have any experience to know. Somebody had to know, somebody had to tell him, for that somebody to know they had to have a hand in it. Can anybody say George Soros?

You're very tiresome, bleating on about the same kind of crap I already responded to earlier. Re-read Post #349. THAT's my response.

 

[sitarro]

Hey MaggieMae, you have outted me. I lied on my profile. I'm really a smokin' hot 19 year old swedish chicklet with a trust fund and a sex addition. Ah am soooo ahshamed...and easily led.




Well...a helpful hint: I wouldn't start getting into pissing matches just for the hell of it. Your credibility will sink faster than the Titanic. There are only a select few here who will cause me turn into Mrs. Hyde.

The Titanic took 2 hours, 40 minutes to sink.

 

[MaggieMae]

Now that you've already had a cow, I'll remind you that I was talking about CURRENT jobs within GM that will be saved, not the history of who and why others got canned a year ago when all of this was going down.

And by the way, if you and your ilk don't expect OBAMA AND HIS CRONIES to "do something" about the unemployment situation, then stop demanding that he do so. Obviously, he can't do any more than he already has, but I suppose it would behoove you to check out a few facts, like the incentives and tax credits given to small businesses to enable them to hire.

Current jobs? Really?....

GM plans to shift overseas production
David Shepardson / Detroit News Washington Bureau

Washington -- General Motors Corp. will shift more production of vehicles bound for the U.S. market to China, Mexico, South Korea and Japan, but will keep total imports at roughly one-third of all sales here.

In a confidential 12-page presentation to members of Congress, obtained by The Detroit News on Friday, GM said it will boost U.S. sales of vehicles built in those four countries by 98 percent -- or about 365,000 vehicles -- while shrinking production in Canada, Australia and European countries by about 130,000 vehicles.

GM also disclosed it will start importing vehicles made in China in 2011, reaching 51,546 vehicles in 2014. Imports from South Korea to the United States will jump from 36,967 vehicles in 2010 to 157,126 in 2014.

The automaker said it is canceling expansion projects in Russia, India and Mexico.

GM's plan to import more vehicles from low-wage countries raises questions about whether it should beef up its foreign operations as it is relying on federal money to stay afloat. It also puts the automaker at odds with the United Auto Workers, which is trying to protect U.S. jobs amid a dramatic restructuring of the domestic auto industry.

GM has faced strong protests from the union that its turnaround plan unfairly targets U.S. workers and plants for cuts. GM plans to trim 21,000 hourly workers and close 13 of its 47 U.S. plants by the end of 2010 as part of a tougher recovery plan sought by President Obama's auto task force. It will close three more U.S. plants by 2014.

(more...)

From The Detroit News: GM plans to shift overseas production | detnews.com | The Detroit News

The union goons over at the UAW might have ended up with ownership of fairly large chunks of both GM and Chrysler... but they didn't get ALL they wanted. In order to keep some of their fat benefit packages, they're having to take advantage of cheap, underpaid, overseas labor.

Barack Obama and his cronies are just another bunch of greasy politicians and worse than most. Because... they've hand-picked the winners and losers, and apparently, Spring Hill TN, located in a right-to-work state as you might note... wasn't among the winners.

Now we see GM claiming that its paid back the taxpayers, but they don't bother to tell us in their homey little ads that they used OUR MONEY to do it. And you know why they want to give the false impression that they're fully recovered???
It's so as to convince the public to take a chance on their crappy stock. IOW, with the full blessings of the Obama administration, they want to fool people into believing their stock is a worthwhile investment.

Yay Team Obama. He does your "ilk" so proud.


p.s. You know what Obama and his Pet Democrats could do to improve U.S. employment, don'tcha?
.... They could shove their moronic socialist policies right up their wrinkly old asses and get the hell out of our way.

The date of your posted article is May 09. 2009. Frankly, I'm not interested in your political blathering on this whole thing. It's JOBS JOBS JOBS that concern me, and it should you.

GM is already able to invest $257 million in its assembly plant in Kansas City and in the Detroit-Hamtramck plant keeping thousands of people employed.

 

[Murf76]

The date of your posted article is May 09. 2009. Frankly, I'm not interested in your political blathering on this whole thing. It's JOBS JOBS JOBS that concern me, and it should you.

GM is already able to invest $257 million in its assembly plant in Kansas City and in the Detroit-Hamtramck plant keeping thousands of people employed.

The government can't "create"jobs, Maggie. Government jobs de-fund the private economy. They don't produce anything. They just take money out of one citizen's pocket and put it into another.

What this administration needs to do in order to get employers hiring again is to abandon their job-killing agenda. But they're not going to do that, are they? Which leaves us no choice but to PUNT their stupid asses out of office in 2010 and 2012. That's how I'm going to show MY concern about jobs... at the ballot box.



It doesn't matter if the article I sited is from last year if GM's plans haven't changed, if they're still closing plants and still moving jobs into cheaper labor markets. And isn't it convenient how people's confidence in foreign cars has dropped here lately, so that GM can afford to expand its product line? The Democrats in Congress might have been pure as the driven snow in it's sanction of Toyota... but who but an abject moron would believe it when their political fortunes are tied to the health of their bailout projects?

During the financial crisis that led to GM filing for bankruptcy protection last year, the automaker closed 14 factories and shed more than 65,000 blue-collar jobs in the U.S. through buyouts, early retirement offers and layoffs. The company now employs about 40,000 hourly workers in the U.S.

After the event at the Kansas City plant, Whitacre was scheduled to fly to Washington, where he will meet with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other lawmakers.

GM's moves come as a new poll finds that slightly more Americans now say the U.S. makes better-quality vehicles than Asia, with 38 percent saying U.S. cars are best and 33 percent preferring autos made by Asian companies, according to an Associated Press-GfK survey.

The poll suggests the shift in sentiment is largely fueled by a plunge in Toyota's reputation and an upswing in Ford Motor Co's. The poll was conducted in March, as Toyota was suffering bad publicity over its recall of more than 8 million vehicles around the globe.

When the same question was asked in a December 2006 AP-AOL poll, 46 percent said Asian countries made superior cars, while just 29 percent preferred American vehicles, reflecting a perception of U.S. automotive inferiority that began taking hold about three decades ago.

(more...)
GM Pumps $257M into Michigan, Kansas Plants - CBS News

Note that if you read the entire article, no mention is made of how GM paid us back with our own taxpayer dollars.

Note also that as soon as Whitacre made his press release in Kansas... he jetted off to Washington for a meeting with Nancy Pelosi.

What amazes me is the vociferous complaint that we so often hear from liberals right on this very board regarding corporatism... but that they can't seem to recognize it when it's right up under their noses.



Back on topic, I've noticed that the GM ad is getting quite a bit of play on talk-radio... and just this morning I heard one of our local talkers defending GM against a caller who was boycotting. Not so, Glenn Beck on his Fox Broadcast earlier this evening. He had already fired them from his advertising line-up a good while back... and gave them the shit that they so richly deserved tonight for LYING to the public.

No media outlet is explicitly trustworthy. We have a responsibility as citizens to seek out the truth for ourselves. And sticking our heads in the sand because the truth doesn't necessarily jibe with our chosen ideology solves NONE of our problems. I heard two conservative talkers discuss GM today, one was taking advertising, one wasn't.... and their verbiage was very different. And in the article above, we see that CBS doesn't feel the need to share with us how GM paid the money back. I have to wonder if GM is advertising with them too.

The U.S. Government should NOT be in the car business, or the bank business, or the healthcare business. You can't be the referee *AND* a player on the field with a vested interest in the outcome. That's how we end up with a corrupt, corporatist system.

You can't keep the money from affecting the press... but damned if we should put up with it in our government. That's OUR house. WE are the sovereign.

 

[Si modo]

Next the administration will spend to keep the buggy whip plants open. Jobs making a product few want is important, doncha know. Well, important for buying votes, that is.

 

[Founder]

The date of your posted article is May 09. 2009. Frankly, I'm not interested in your political blathering on this whole thing. It's JOBS JOBS JOBS that concern me, and it should you.

GM is already able to invest $257 million in its assembly plant in Kansas City and in the Detroit-Hamtramck plant keeping thousands of people employed.

The government can't "create"jobs, Maggie. Government jobs de-fund the private economy. They don't produce anything. They just take money out of one citizen's pocket and put it into another.

What this administration needs to do in order to get employers hiring again is to abandon their job-killing agenda. But they're not going to do that, are they? Which leaves us no choice but to PUNT their stupid asses out of office in 2010 and 2012. That's how I'm going to show MY concern about jobs... at the ballot box.



It doesn't matter if the article I sited is from last year if GM's plans haven't changed, if they're still closing plants and still moving jobs into cheaper labor markets. And isn't it convenient how people's confidence in foreign cars has dropped here lately, so that GM can afford to expand its product line? The Democrats in Congress might have been pure as the driven snow in it's sanction of Toyota... but who but an abject moron would believe it when their political fortunes are tied to the health of their bailout projects?

During the financial crisis that led to GM filing for bankruptcy protection last year, the automaker closed 14 factories and shed more than 65,000 blue-collar jobs in the U.S. through buyouts, early retirement offers and layoffs. The company now employs about 40,000 hourly workers in the U.S.

After the event at the Kansas City plant, Whitacre was scheduled to fly to Washington, where he will meet with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other lawmakers.

GM's moves come as a new poll finds that slightly more Americans now say the U.S. makes better-quality vehicles than Asia, with 38 percent saying U.S. cars are best and 33 percent preferring autos made by Asian companies, according to an Associated Press-GfK survey.

The poll suggests the shift in sentiment is largely fueled by a plunge in Toyota's reputation and an upswing in Ford Motor Co's. The poll was conducted in March, as Toyota was suffering bad publicity over its recall of more than 8 million vehicles around the globe.

When the same question was asked in a December 2006 AP-AOL poll, 46 percent said Asian countries made superior cars, while just 29 percent preferred American vehicles, reflecting a perception of U.S. automotive inferiority that began taking hold about three decades ago.

(more...)
GM Pumps $257M into Michigan, Kansas Plants - CBS News

Note that if you read the entire article, no mention is made of how GM paid us back with our own taxpayer dollars.

Note also that as soon as Whitacre made his press release in Kansas... he jetted off to Washington for a meeting with Nancy Pelosi.

What amazes me is the vociferous complaint that we so often hear from liberals right on this very board regarding corporatism... but that they can't seem to recognize it when it's right up under their noses.



Back on topic, I've noticed that the GM ad is getting quite a bit of play on talk-radio... and just this morning I heard one of our local talkers defending GM against a caller who was boycotting. Not so, Glenn Beck on his Fox Broadcast earlier this evening. He had already fired them from his advertising line-up a good while back... and gave them the shit that they so richly deserved tonight for LYING to the public.

No media outlet is explicitly trustworthy. We have a responsibility as citizens to seek out the truth for ourselves. And sticking our heads in the sand because the truth doesn't necessarily jibe with our chosen ideology solves NONE of our problems. I heard two conservative talkers discuss GM today, one was taking advertising, one wasn't.... and their verbiage was very different. And in the article above, we see that CBS doesn't feel the need to share with us how GM paid the money back. I have to wonder if GM is advertising with them too.

The U.S. Government should NOT be in the car business, or the bank business, or the healthcare business. You can't be the referee *AND* a player on the field with a vested interest in the outcome. That's how we end up with a corrupt, corporatist system.

You can't keep the money from affecting the press... but damned if we should put up with it in our government. That's OUR house. WE are the sovereign.

Government such as our own is, by definition, an umpire for our society, NOT a player. Only in the rarest of circumstances should the government be a player. When the government is a player it is as though the NFL umpires fielded a team of umpires, while trying at the same time to umpire the games. Who do you think would go to the superbowl every year in that case?It is OK for the government to kick-start some things such as space travel, or the post office, or our railroad system in their beginnings, but as soon as they are up and running government should withdraw and allow the market place to run these things, insuring only a level playing field for all the competing teams. When government picks winners and losers and plays the game there is no fairness for anyone.