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What do the State Right's people think of this?

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Calif. pot dispensaries told to shut down - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com

SAN FRANCISCO — Federal prosecutors have launched a crackdown on pot dispensaries in California, warning the stores that they must shut down in 45 days or face criminal charges and confiscation of their property even if they are operating legally under the state's 15-year-old medical marijuana law

It seems that they are paying taxes, are responsible businesses operating within the laws of their State.

On the other hand, the Federal government won't try to prosecute anyone because of the fear of losing the case and thereby setting precedent.

That means this is simple harassment and potentially an illegal confiscation of personal property in violation of civil rights.

I’m wondering about the ‘conservative’ members on this board? How do you feel about the Federal Government stepping on the rights of States?
 

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I think it is outrageous. They are already paying millions in taxes. If they shut them down they'll be paying ZERO. Hard to understand the rationale.
 

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Calif. pot dispensaries told to shut down - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com

SAN FRANCISCO — Federal prosecutors have launched a crackdown on pot dispensaries in California, warning the stores that they must shut down in 45 days or face criminal charges and confiscation of their property even if they are operating legally under the state's 15-year-old medical marijuana law

It seems that they are paying taxes, are responsible businesses operating within the laws of their State.

On the other hand, the Federal government won't try to prosecute anyone because of the fear of losing the case and thereby setting precedent.

That means this is simple harassment and potentially an illegal confiscation of personal property in violation of civil rights.

I’m wondering about the ‘conservative’ members on this board? How do you feel about the Federal Government stepping on the rights of States?

Well you are ignoring the supremacy clause

However, I wish the Feds would take the stance of adopting that states unique view on marijuana as to how it enforces it. Sorry for the bad wording, basically if Cali decriminalizes the government recognizes that position but if it remains illegal in Texas the government will allot resources if it wishes to help enforce the law.
 

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Calif. pot dispensaries told to shut down - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com

SAN FRANCISCO — Federal prosecutors have launched a crackdown on pot dispensaries in California, warning the stores that they must shut down in 45 days or face criminal charges and confiscation of their property even if they are operating legally under the state's 15-year-old medical marijuana law

It seems that they are paying taxes, are responsible businesses operating within the laws of their State.

On the other hand, the Federal government won't try to prosecute anyone because of the fear of losing the case and thereby setting precedent.

That means this is simple harassment and potentially an illegal confiscation of personal property in violation of civil rights.

I’m wondering about the ‘conservative’ members on this board? How do you feel about the Federal Government stepping on the rights of States?

It's a problem resulting from our stupid federal drug laws conflicting with CA's law. It was bound to happen.
 

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Calif. pot dispensaries told to shut down - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com

SAN FRANCISCO — Federal prosecutors have launched a crackdown on pot dispensaries in California, warning the stores that they must shut down in 45 days or face criminal charges and confiscation of their property even if they are operating legally under the state's 15-year-old medical marijuana law

It seems that they are paying taxes, are responsible businesses operating within the laws of their State.

On the other hand, the Federal government won't try to prosecute anyone because of the fear of losing the case and thereby setting precedent.

That means this is simple harassment and potentially an illegal confiscation of personal property in violation of civil rights.

I’m wondering about the ‘conservative’ members on this board? How do you feel about the Federal Government stepping on the rights of States?
The federal "war" on (some) drugs is a joke, in the absolutely poorest of taste....I'll throw the FDA in there for good measure.

Just another federal cluster fuck that's better left to the free market, states and individuals to decide how to imbibe or medicate themselves.
 

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The OP must be devastated that he didn't cause a wrestle with the dogma siezure.

Must have thought that Conservatives were Democrats who held a different dogma.

Alrighty, then... Let's turn this around. How do Liberals feel about a state flaunting Federal Law? Send in the US Marshalls? Escort the flower children through the harrassing crowds into the Marijuana clinics? Will Norman Rockwell rise from the grave tro reprise his famous poster of the little girl braving the gauntlet of hate in the Deep South?

http://0.tqn.com/d/detroit/1/0/T/8/-/-/The-Problem-We-All-Live-With-8x5.jpg
 
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Calif. pot dispensaries told to shut down - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com

SAN FRANCISCO — Federal prosecutors have launched a crackdown on pot dispensaries in California, warning the stores that they must shut down in 45 days or face criminal charges and confiscation of their property even if they are operating legally under the state's 15-year-old medical marijuana law

It seems that they are paying taxes, are responsible businesses operating within the laws of their State.

On the other hand, the Federal government won't try to prosecute anyone because of the fear of losing the case and thereby setting precedent.

That means this is simple harassment and potentially an illegal confiscation of personal property in violation of civil rights.

I’m wondering about the ‘conservative’ members on this board? How do you feel about the Federal Government stepping on the rights of States?

Well you are ignoring the supremacy clause

However, I wish the Feds would take the stance of adopting that states unique view on marijuana as to how it enforces it. Sorry for the bad wording, basically if Cali decriminalizes the government recognizes that position but if it remains illegal in Texas the government will allot resources if it wishes to help enforce the law.

The Supremacy Clause IS NOT an independent source of Federal power. It merely resolves that when Federal power is legitimate, and State law conflicts with it, Federal law controls.

But the Feds should not be able to enact criminal law. This is a traditional and long-recognized state prerogative.
 

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Calif. pot dispensaries told to shut down - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com

SAN FRANCISCO — Federal prosecutors have launched a crackdown on pot dispensaries in California, warning the stores that they must shut down in 45 days or face criminal charges and confiscation of their property even if they are operating legally under the state's 15-year-old medical marijuana law

It seems that they are paying taxes, are responsible businesses operating within the laws of their State.

On the other hand, the Federal government won't try to prosecute anyone because of the fear of losing the case and thereby setting precedent.

That means this is simple harassment and potentially an illegal confiscation of personal property in violation of civil rights.

I’m wondering about the ‘conservative’ members on this board? How do you feel about the Federal Government stepping on the rights of States?

I'd sue the feds for over stepping it's authority.
 

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Using the words "states rights" in conjunction with the peoples republik of California is an exercise in futility.
 

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The OP must be devastated that he didn't cause a wrestle with the dogma siezure.

Must have thought that Conservatives were Democrats who held a different dogma.

Alrighty, then... Let's turn this around. How do Liberals feel about a state flaunting Federal Law? Send in the US Marshalls? Escort the flower children through the harrassing crowds into the Marijuana clinics? Will Norman Rockwell rise from the grave tro reprise his famous poster of the little girl braving the gauntlet of hate in the Deep South?

http://0.tqn.com/d/detroit/1/0/T/8/-/-/The-Problem-We-All-Live-With-8x5.jpg

That's wild, Man!

:smoke: I want what you're smokin'.​
 

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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE LIBS?

Hell, at least Chimpola got some resistance from the right when he spent like a drunken Kennedy.

I know y'all are looking in on this thread....Are your heads really buried that far up Boiking's ass that y'all can't utter so much as a peep?
 

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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE LIBS?

Hell, at least Chimpola got some resistance from the right when he spent like a drunken Kennedy.

I know y'all are looking in on this thread....Are your heads really buried that far up Boiking's ass that y'all can't utter so much as a peep?

YES THEY ARE:clap2:
 

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Feds cracking down on California medical marijuana dispensaries - latimes.com

It's not clear to me the reason for this crackdown. The Obama administration had previously declined to prosecute medical marijuana in states where it was legal under state law.

The legal justification for the crackdown is that marijuana possession is illegal under federal law. The constitutionality of the law follows from the commerce clause, (Gonzales v. Raich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) according to most Supreme Court justices, including Scalia.

That being said, even though the federal government has the power to go after medical marijuana (which in practice it clearly does) I don't think it should. There doesn't seem to be any compelling reason to, as far as I can see.
 

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Calif. pot dispensaries told to shut down - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com

SAN FRANCISCO — Federal prosecutors have launched a crackdown on pot dispensaries in California, warning the stores that they must shut down in 45 days or face criminal charges and confiscation of their property even if they are operating legally under the state's 15-year-old medical marijuana law

It seems that they are paying taxes, are responsible businesses operating within the laws of their State.

On the other hand, the Federal government won't try to prosecute anyone because of the fear of losing the case and thereby setting precedent.

That means this is simple harassment and potentially an illegal confiscation of personal property in violation of civil rights.

I’m wondering about the ‘conservative’ members on this board? How do you feel about the Federal Government stepping on the rights of States?

You have not gotten the responses you were expecting, have you.
 

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Feds cracking down on California medical marijuana dispensaries - latimes.com

It's not clear to me the reason for this crackdown. The Obama administration had previously declined to prosecute medical marijuana in states where it was legal under state law.

The legal justification for the crackdown is that marijuana possession is illegal under federal law. The constitutionality of the law follows from the commerce clause, (Gonzales v. Raich - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) according to most Supreme Court justices, including Scalia.

That being said, even though the federal government has the power to go after medical marijuana (which in practice it clearly does) I don't think it should. There doesn't seem to be any compelling reason to, as far as I can see.
Wow...Really doing your best to thread that needle and keep from being reported to Attack Watch, aintcha? :lol:
 

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