What Did john kerry Do On 9/11?

[007]

What Did John Kerry Do On 9/11?
+ + +

8/15/2004



We continue to be amazed at how political leaders are reading
off the Michael Moore playbook as outlined in is movie,
"Fahrenheit 9/11." It further emphasizes the importance of
Grassfire's new publication, "Michael Moore’s Misleads."

For example, Moore goes to great lengths in an attempt to show
that President Bush didn't know what to do when he first found
out that America was under attack on 9/11. Moore shows footage
of the President sitting in a Florida classroom for seven
minutes after an aid told him about the World Trade Center
attacks. Moore makes the President look incompetent and
confused.

It's a Moore mislead. Moore manipulated the video footage and
ignored the facts. We expose Moore's tactics in our pamphlet.
It's Mislead #6.

+ + Kerry attacks Bush for the 7-minute delay

A few days ago, Sen. John Kerry read from the Moore playbook
in criticizing President Bush for the supposed 7-minute delay.
Here is what Kerry said:

Had I been reading to children and had my top aide
whispered in my ear, 'America is under attack,' I would have
told those kids very politely and nicely that the President of
the United States had something that he needed to attend
to -- and I would have attended to it.

+ + What Did Kerry Actually Do On 9/11?

Before we go on, we want to state that we disagree with Michael
Moore's analysis of the supposed "7-minute delay." We also
disagree with leaders like Sen. Kerry making this an issue.
Events were unfolding quickly and there was much confusion
in those first moments.

That said, it is important to point out the hypocrisy of
Sen. Kerry by looking at what Kerry himself did at that
same moment in time.

Here is Sen. Kerry's explanation of what he was doing when
the first attacks came (see link below to the full transcript):

KERRY: I was in the Capitol. We'd just had a meeting --
we'd just come into a leadership meeting in Tom Daschle's
office, looking out at the Capitol. And as I came in, Barbara
Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched
the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly
thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized
nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw
the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon. And then word came
from the White House, they were evacuating, and we were to
evacuate, and so we immediately began the evacuation.

+ + Kerry: "Nobody Could Think"

For the record, it was about 40 minutes between the when the
second tower was hit and when the Pentagon was hit. For 40
minutes, Sen. John Kerry, a sitting member of the Senate
Intelligence Committee, sat in a room with Senate Leader
Tom Daschle.

In Kerry's own words, "nobody could think."

Sen. Kerry sat in a very vulnerable place on Capitol Hill for
40 minutes after the second tower was hit. What did he mean when
he said, "nobody could think"? Perhaps the chaos and confusion
of the moment meant that a group of top leaders in the Senate
really did not know what to do! So they sat in a vulnerable
Senate office, exposed to attack. Apparently, Kerry and others
did not yet realize that America was at war.

When did Kerry know America was at war?

Again, in Sen. Kerry's own words:

And as we went out of the building, my immediate feeling
was, we're at war. I mean, that was the sense, that we are
under attack. People are attacking the United States of
America and we needed to respond.

So, more than 45 minutes after the second tower was hit, as
Sen. Kerry was evacuating the Capitol, his "immediate feeling"
was that America was "at war." In his own words, it took
Sen. Kerry 45 minutes to come to this conclusion.


www.grassfire.org

 

[krisy]

What Did John Kerry Do On 9/11?
+ + +

8/15/2004



We continue to be amazed at how political leaders are reading
off the Michael Moore playbook as outlined in is movie,
"Fahrenheit 9/11." It further emphasizes the importance of
Grassfire's new publication, "Michael Moore’s Misleads."

For example, Moore goes to great lengths in an attempt to show
that President Bush didn't know what to do when he first found
out that America was under attack on 9/11. Moore shows footage
of the President sitting in a Florida classroom for seven
minutes after an aid told him about the World Trade Center
attacks. Moore makes the President look incompetent and
confused.

It's a Moore mislead. Moore manipulated the video footage and
ignored the facts. We expose Moore's tactics in our pamphlet.
It's Mislead #6.

+ + Kerry attacks Bush for the 7-minute delay

A few days ago, Sen. John Kerry read from the Moore playbook
in criticizing President Bush for the supposed 7-minute delay.
Here is what Kerry said:

Had I been reading to children and had my top aide
whispered in my ear, 'America is under attack,' I would have
told those kids very politely and nicely that the President of
the United States had something that he needed to attend
to -- and I would have attended to it.

+ + What Did Kerry Actually Do On 9/11?

Before we go on, we want to state that we disagree with Michael
Moore's analysis of the supposed "7-minute delay." We also
disagree with leaders like Sen. Kerry making this an issue.
Events were unfolding quickly and there was much confusion
in those first moments.

That said, it is important to point out the hypocrisy of
Sen. Kerry by looking at what Kerry himself did at that
same moment in time.

Here is Sen. Kerry's explanation of what he was doing when
the first attacks came (see link below to the full transcript):

KERRY: I was in the Capitol. We'd just had a meeting --
we'd just come into a leadership meeting in Tom Daschle's
office, looking out at the Capitol. And as I came in, Barbara
Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched
the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly
thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized
nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw
the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon. And then word came
from the White House, they were evacuating, and we were to
evacuate, and so we immediately began the evacuation.

+ + Kerry: "Nobody Could Think"

For the record, it was about 40 minutes between the when the
second tower was hit and when the Pentagon was hit. For 40
minutes, Sen. John Kerry, a sitting member of the Senate
Intelligence Committee, sat in a room with Senate Leader
Tom Daschle.

In Kerry's own words, "nobody could think."

Sen. Kerry sat in a very vulnerable place on Capitol Hill for
40 minutes after the second tower was hit. What did he mean when
he said, "nobody could think"? Perhaps the chaos and confusion
of the moment meant that a group of top leaders in the Senate
really did not know what to do! So they sat in a vulnerable
Senate office, exposed to attack. Apparently, Kerry and others
did not yet realize that America was at war.

When did Kerry know America was at war?

Again, in Sen. Kerry's own words:

And as we went out of the building, my immediate feeling
was, we're at war. I mean, that was the sense, that we are
under attack. People are attacking the United States of
America and we needed to respond.

So, more than 45 minutes after the second tower was hit, as
Sen. Kerry was evacuating the Capitol, his "immediate feeling"
was that America was "at war." In his own words, it took
Sen. Kerry 45 minutes to come to this conclusion.


www.grassfire.org

Don't you know the difference,rider? See when Kerry wans't president,he wasn't able to think,but when he becomes prsident he magically will be able too. It is ridiculous for Kerry or anyone else to judge what anyone would do in that situation. Why is this suddenly being talked about so much? Could it be election year horsecrap?

 

[Bonnie]

What Did John Kerry Do On 9/11?
+ + +

8/15/2004



We continue to be amazed at how political leaders are reading
off the Michael Moore playbook as outlined in is movie,
"Fahrenheit 9/11." It further emphasizes the importance of
Grassfire's new publication, "Michael Moore’s Misleads."

For example, Moore goes to great lengths in an attempt to show
that President Bush didn't know what to do when he first found
out that America was under attack on 9/11. Moore shows footage
of the President sitting in a Florida classroom for seven
minutes after an aid told him about the World Trade Center
attacks. Moore makes the President look incompetent and
confused.

It's a Moore mislead. Moore manipulated the video footage and
ignored the facts. We expose Moore's tactics in our pamphlet.
It's Mislead #6.

+ + Kerry attacks Bush for the 7-minute delay

A few days ago, Sen. John Kerry read from the Moore playbook
in criticizing President Bush for the supposed 7-minute delay.
Here is what Kerry said:

Had I been reading to children and had my top aide
whispered in my ear, 'America is under attack,' I would have
told those kids very politely and nicely that the President of
the United States had something that he needed to attend
to -- and I would have attended to it.

+ + What Did Kerry Actually Do On 9/11?

Before we go on, we want to state that we disagree with Michael
Moore's analysis of the supposed "7-minute delay." We also
disagree with leaders like Sen. Kerry making this an issue.
Events were unfolding quickly and there was much confusion
in those first moments.

That said, it is important to point out the hypocrisy of
Sen. Kerry by looking at what Kerry himself did at that
same moment in time.

Here is Sen. Kerry's explanation of what he was doing when
the first attacks came (see link below to the full transcript):

KERRY: I was in the Capitol. We'd just had a meeting --
we'd just come into a leadership meeting in Tom Daschle's
office, looking out at the Capitol. And as I came in, Barbara
Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched
the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly
thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized
nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw
the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon. And then word came
from the White House, they were evacuating, and we were to
evacuate, and so we immediately began the evacuation.

+ + Kerry: "Nobody Could Think"

For the record, it was about 40 minutes between the when the
second tower was hit and when the Pentagon was hit. For 40
minutes, Sen. John Kerry, a sitting member of the Senate
Intelligence Committee, sat in a room with Senate Leader
Tom Daschle.

In Kerry's own words, "nobody could think."

Sen. Kerry sat in a very vulnerable place on Capitol Hill for
40 minutes after the second tower was hit. What did he mean when
he said, "nobody could think"? Perhaps the chaos and confusion
of the moment meant that a group of top leaders in the Senate
really did not know what to do! So they sat in a vulnerable
Senate office, exposed to attack. Apparently, Kerry and others
did not yet realize that America was at war.

When did Kerry know America was at war?

Again, in Sen. Kerry's own words:

And as we went out of the building, my immediate feeling
was, we're at war. I mean, that was the sense, that we are
under attack. People are attacking the United States of
America and we needed to respond.

So, more than 45 minutes after the second tower was hit, as
Sen. Kerry was evacuating the Capitol, his "immediate feeling"
was that America was "at war." In his own words, it took
Sen. Kerry 45 minutes to come to this conclusion.


www.grassfire.org

That is a great website and article!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bonnie]

Don't you know the difference,rider? See when Kerry wans't president,he wasn't able to think,but when he becomes prsident he magically will be able too. It is ridiculous for Kerry or anyone else to judge what anyone would do in that situation. Why is this suddenly being talked about so much? Could it be election year horsecrap?

Not to mention the systemic break down in communication was completley out of the Presidents hands in those minutes after the planes hit......So it's really a mute point. Everything that could have been done in those moments was being done.........

 

[krisy]

Not to mention the systemic break down in communication was completley out of the Presidents hands in those minutes after the planes hit......So it's really a mute point. Everything that could have been done in those moments was being done.........

Exactly. This is nothing more than an attempt to convince voters that BUsh cannot react to catastrophies in a timely manner,that he isn't a quick enough thinker. If this is the best the Dems can do,it's a pretty weak argument. What exactly could he have done in those 7 minutes to make some kind of difference-nothing. Kerry has allready made a fool of himself with what he has stated his reaction was. Not that we all weren't stunned,but when you pick on someone for doing something,you better make damn sure you haven't done it yourself!

 

[Moi]

Personally, I think Bush did the right thing.

However, I'm just curious why 7 minutes was too long for him to continue speaking with children after learning that a plane or two hit the world trade center and yet, 12 years went by before he bombed Iraq and that, apparently, was just too damn short a time period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Gimme a break. And make it John Kerry's jawbone.

 

[007]

I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing on 9/11. I was working at the Supermax Prison in Boscobel, Wisconsin. Someone had a TV on and people were watching the first tower burn, and were still trying to figure out if it was intentional or not, when the second plane flew into the second tower. We all saw that in real time as it happened. Then we all knew some dirty bastards were doing it on purpose. We then heard about the Pentagon, and the other plane that crashed where the BRAVE passengers tried to take it back.

I can tell that as I watched what was happening, I was full of all sorts of emotion, but most of all, DISBELIEF. There had to be a dozen of us standing there watching the TV not really knowing what to say or do. It was hard to comprehend.

Had "I" been the President... I'm sure the first thing I'd have done is SHIT MY PANTS! Maybe that's what GW did. Who cares. All I know is that after the brief period in question, that man stepped up to the plate like no other. He pulled America through that catastrophe with his outstanding leadership, and he hasn't backed off yet.

I have total respect for President Bush. He's been tried and proven under fire of the worst sort, and proven himself to be a strong leader in those dark times. And THAT is why I'm voting for him in November. We need someone like him right now, and for some time to come with this rotten war on terror. We need someone tough. Not a liberal appeaser pussy like johnny, lets talk to the terrorists, kerry.

 

[Avatar4321]

I remember where i was during 911 too. I had decided that i would actually cut myself off from civilization for the morning and study so when i actually did communicate people and everyone was talking about it, i was like woah no way. So yeah disbelief. i mean i continued on with my classes that day, didnt get much more studying done though but wow that was unique day.

 

[Bullypulpit]

What Did John Kerry Do On 9/11?
+ + +

8/15/2004



We continue to be amazed at how political leaders are reading
off the Michael Moore playbook as outlined in is movie,
"Fahrenheit 9/11." It further emphasizes the importance of
Grassfire's new publication, "Michael Moore’s Misleads."

For example, Moore goes to great lengths in an attempt to show
that President Bush didn't know what to do when he first found
out that America was under attack on 9/11. Moore shows footage
of the President sitting in a Florida classroom for seven
minutes after an aid told him about the World Trade Center
attacks. Moore makes the President look incompetent and
confused.

It's a Moore mislead. Moore manipulated the video footage and
ignored the facts. We expose Moore's tactics in our pamphlet.
It's Mislead #6.

+ + Kerry attacks Bush for the 7-minute delay

A few days ago, Sen. John Kerry read from the Moore playbook
in criticizing President Bush for the supposed 7-minute delay.
Here is what Kerry said:

Had I been reading to children and had my top aide
whispered in my ear, 'America is under attack,' I would have
told those kids very politely and nicely that the President of
the United States had something that he needed to attend
to -- and I would have attended to it.

+ + What Did Kerry Actually Do On 9/11?

Before we go on, we want to state that we disagree with Michael
Moore's analysis of the supposed "7-minute delay." We also
disagree with leaders like Sen. Kerry making this an issue.
Events were unfolding quickly and there was much confusion
in those first moments.

That said, it is important to point out the hypocrisy of
Sen. Kerry by looking at what Kerry himself did at that
same moment in time.

Here is Sen. Kerry's explanation of what he was doing when
the first attacks came (see link below to the full transcript):

KERRY: I was in the Capitol. We'd just had a meeting --
we'd just come into a leadership meeting in Tom Daschle's
office, looking out at the Capitol. And as I came in, Barbara
Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched
the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly
thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized
nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw
the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon. And then word came
from the White House, they were evacuating, and we were to
evacuate, and so we immediately began the evacuation.

+ + Kerry: "Nobody Could Think"

For the record, it was about 40 minutes between the when the
second tower was hit and when the Pentagon was hit. For 40
minutes, Sen. John Kerry, a sitting member of the Senate
Intelligence Committee, sat in a room with Senate Leader
Tom Daschle.

In Kerry's own words, "nobody could think."

Sen. Kerry sat in a very vulnerable place on Capitol Hill for
40 minutes after the second tower was hit. What did he mean when
he said, "nobody could think"? Perhaps the chaos and confusion
of the moment meant that a group of top leaders in the Senate
really did not know what to do! So they sat in a vulnerable
Senate office, exposed to attack. Apparently, Kerry and others
did not yet realize that America was at war.

When did Kerry know America was at war?

Again, in Sen. Kerry's own words:

And as we went out of the building, my immediate feeling
was, we're at war. I mean, that was the sense, that we are
under attack. People are attacking the United States of
America and we needed to respond.

So, more than 45 minutes after the second tower was hit, as
Sen. Kerry was evacuating the Capitol, his "immediate feeling"
was that America was "at war." In his own words, it took
Sen. Kerry 45 minutes to come to this conclusion.


www.grassfire.org

If that's the best you can do, just roll over and play dead.

 

[jimnyc]

If that's the best you can do, just roll over and play dead.

If that's the best rebuttal you can muster, just re-enroll in high school again.

 

[007]

If that's the best you can do, just roll over and play dead.

 

[Hobbit]

Yeah, had John Kerry been president, he would have stared towards the back of the classroom for the better part of an hour not thinking, then said politely, "Excuse me children, but the president of the United States has something he needs to do."...then crapped his pants.

And let's not forget some other similar moments in history. As cruel as he was, Stalin was one of the most fearless men to lead a nation at war. When Germany attacked the Soviet half of Poland, violating their treaty, Stalin was found in a basement, naked and drunk, clutching his treaty while curled up in the fetal position. I thought Bush handled it rather well.

 

[Psychoblues]

9/11 was a sad day. Mr. Bush's performance on that day only intensifies the sadness. He ran from danger when his country needed him as a young man and he ran again, with approximately the same advisors, when we desparately needed his immediate leadership as the selected pResident. To even compare Mr. Bush's actions on that day to any that were not in that position is ludicrous. But the facts remain. Mr. Bush's actions were deplorable on that day as they were many years earlier when guys like me were depending on guys like him to only do their duty. Nothing heroic required.

Psychoblues

God Bless America

 

[Annie]

9/11 was a sad day. Mr. Bush's performance on that day only intensifies the sadness. He ran from danger when his country needed him as a young man and he ran again, with approximately the same advisors, when we desparately needed his immediate leadership as the selected pResident. To even compare Mr. Bush's actions on that day to any that were not in that position is ludicrous. But the facts remain. Mr. Bush's actions were deplorable on that day as they were many years earlier when guys like me were depending on guys like him to only do their duty. Nothing heroic required.

Psychoblues

God Bless America

Damn Psycho, absence hasn't helped your thought processes, but you have been missed!

To get to you point, assuming you meant one, Bush took all of 7 minutes, Kerry by his own admission over 40. He is criticizing Bush? LOL. Tell us, what were your reactions that day?

 

[Bern80]

I have asked this of psycho and bully before, but I'll try again. If your going to respond to a post could you just maybe make it constructive? As in tell us why and with some semblence of proof that what you are saying is right and what you are refutting is wrong.

To psycho: What exacltey are the deplorable actions of Bush? The whole 7 minute thing? Even if true i don't find it deplorable. Even the CIC is gonna need a couple minutes to gather himself and for one will grant him the seven minutes. So other than that what are the deplorable actions you speak of?

 

[Psychoblues]

I appreciate the fact that I may have been missed, but 7 minutes does not tell the tale at all does it? What about the next many hours of flying around willy nilly, dodging perceived questions and potential dangers along with several days of non-recognition for the firemen and policemen that gave it all in their perceived protection of their countrymen? Not to mention the thousands that volunteer or not gave it all many years earlier for a war little understood and completely unjustified as history now tells us.

It's no secret that I despise GWB. Not for his politics but more for his character. I've been personally damaged by his kind far too often for any excuse whatsoever to absolve them their transgressions. We need a TRUE AMERICAN that has been tried and true to lead folks like me into anything. GWB had me convinced in his original WAR ON TERROR. He lost me in his lies about Iraq.

As I have invited you before, I again repeat the invitation. Go to the Middle East, or the Far East, or even Western Europe. Live with those people. Absorb some of their culture. Gather some of their "common sense". Appreciate some of their concerns and fears of intervention and occupation. Actually, if handled correctly, intervention and occupation is not necessarily a BAD thing. The shrub has neither the talent or the inclination for education to handle any of that "correctly", IMHO. And he is determined to prove my observations correct, it seems. But somehow he is asking my children and grandchildren to prove him correct. I refuse.

Psychoblues

God Bless America

 

[insein]

I appreciate the fact that I may have been missed, but 7 minutes does not tell the tale at all does it? What about the next many hours of flying around willy nilly, dodging perceived questions and potential dangers along with several days of non-recognition for the firemen and policemen that gave it all in their perceived protection of their countrymen? Not to mention the thousands that volunteer or not gave it all many years earlier for a war little understood and completely unjustified as history now tells us.

It's no secret that I despise GWB. Not for his politics but more for his character. I've been personally damaged by his kind far too often for any excuse whatsoever to absolve them their transgressions. We need a TRUE AMERICAN that has been tried and true to lead folks like me into anything. GWB had me convinced in his original WAR ON TERROR. He lost me in his lies about Iraq.

As I have invited you before, I again repeat the invitation. Go to the Middle East, or the Far East, or even Western Europe. Live with those people. Absorb some of their culture. Gather some of their "common sense". Appreciate some of their concerns and fears of intervention and occupation. Actually, if handled correctly, intervention and occupation is not necessarily a BAD thing. The shrub has neither the talent or the inclination for education to handle any of that "correctly", IMHO. And he is determined to prove my observations correct, it seems. But somehow he is asking my children and grandchildren to prove him correct. I refuse.

Psychoblues

God Bless America

So you consider a Blue Blood who has stepped on the backs of everyone INCLUDING his fellow soldiers in Vietnam in order to achieve one singleminded goal of becoming president a TRUE AMERICAN?

 

[Psychoblues]

You're pretty screwed up about Viet Nam, aren't you? There were those of us that believed in America and went whether we really wanted to or not. There were others that avoided Viet Nam service through college deferments, Peace Corps service, etc. There were others that simply left the country to forego involuntary conscription and become participants in a war that they understood to be ethically and morally wrong. There were others that seemed to believe they could "save face" and enlist in units that could not possibly be tasked for duty in Viet Nam. Where in all this do you place GWB? I prefer the intelligence and bravery of our ex-patriot Canadians to the likes of GWB. At least those ex-patriots put their very citizenship on the line. GWB never put anything on the line.

You gotta quit reading those Republican Romance novels, my friend.

Psychoblues

God Bless America

 

[Hobbit]

You're pretty screwed up about Viet Nam, aren't you? There were those of us that believed in America and went whether we really wanted to or not. There were others that avoided Viet Nam service through college deferments, Peace Corps service, etc. There were others that simply left the country to forego involuntary conscription and become participants in a war that they understood to be ethically and morally wrong. There were others that seemed to believe they could "save face" and enlist in units that could not possibly be tasked for duty in Viet Nam. Where in all this do you place GWB? I prefer the intelligence and bravery of our ex-patriot Canadians to the likes of GWB. At least those ex-patriots put their very citizenship on the line. GWB never put anything on the line.

You gotta quit reading those Republican Romance novels, my friend.

Psychoblues

God Bless America

A) I've gotten onto you enough for bringing up the 2000 election that Bush won fairly, because it was 4 years ago, and it's time to move on. Vietnam was over 30 years ago.

B) I, personally, am faaaaaar more interested in Kerry's senate record than his war record, but if it came to that, I don't ever blame anybody for being a draft-dodger from that era, and I'd rather have a draft-dodger than a backstabber, anyway. Next, Kerry's gonna tell the U.N. about all the atrocities U.S. forces committed against Iran after GW ordered them to go there along the Euphrates River in 1998, atrocities like, "Shock and Awe," and shooting people with guns.

Let's face it, W has proven his ability as a leader in the past four years and all Kerry has proven in his 20 years in the senate is that he wants to be president.

 

[007]

You're pretty screwed up about Viet Nam, aren't you? There were those of us that believed in America and went whether we really wanted to or not. There were others that avoided Viet Nam service through college deferments, Peace Corps service, etc. There were others that simply left the country to forego involuntary conscription and become participants in a war that they understood to be ethically and morally wrong. There were others that seemed to believe they could "save face" and enlist in units that could not possibly be tasked for duty in Viet Nam. Where in all this do you place GWB? I prefer the intelligence and bravery of our ex-patriot Canadians to the likes of GWB. At least those ex-patriots put their very citizenship on the line. GWB never put anything on the line.

You gotta quit reading those Republican Romance novels, my friend.

Psychoblues

God Bless America

Who the hell died and appointed you sole pundit on Viet Nam? I think YOU are messed up.

My older brother joined the Army in 1970. Went to Viet Nam and did two tours. Came back home fucked up, but made it eight years, then finaly commited suicide. So you think I want to sit here and listen to some spinless little pencil neck liberal like you talk about Viet Nam and how bad our President is? You're fucking off your rocker.

You come in here spouting this BULL SHIT, well if you're going to make all these ASSERTIONS as if they actually contained a MICRON of truth, and not just your fucking radical, liberal, warped, opinion, then start posting some links to back your shit up fuckwad. Otherwise, my suggestion to anyone reading your caustic crap is ignore you, and maybe with any luck, you'll fucking disappear again.