What a great man.... HAPPY 100th Ronald Reagan, you are truly missed.

[Trajan]

i think Huck will be the nominee. It all comes down to Iowa, essentially.

actually there have been numerous rules changes to the gop primary structure that rewards organizations, broad based ones, mass appeal and the machine that builds it. so huck? I am not so sure. etc.......

 

[uscitizen]

Iowa... Is Huckleberry for ending AG subsidies?

 

[Trajan]

Iowa... Is Huckleberry for ending AG subsidies?

I doubt it...but then again neither is newt the toad.

 

[Synthaholic]

Nah, you are a scullery maid who thinks she is the queen of England. However, Ronnie could win, and that excuses most things. Sarah and Michelle can't win next year, and that shuts them down for anything.

You do have a major hardon for Palin and Bachman dear. Or is it for Romeny?
go take a cold shower.

I want a winner. Don't you? Then drop the women and concentrate on the guy who can win.

Romney cannot win. Unless he can win without the South. He's a Mormon, and as I've pointed out time and again, Southern Baptists - as an organization - believes Mormonism is a cult. Period. They just do. This is not disputed. And religious organizations do not often walk back their declarations. So I don't see Southern Baptists, which are the majority of the South, voting for him.

 

[Synthaholic]

I want a winner. Don't you? Then drop the women and concentrate on the guy who can win.

I haven't made up my mind yet, but I can tell you it is a NO to Romney for me.
but hey, if he blows your skirt up, have at it.

Then offer someone else who has a solid chance. Romney, Sarah and Michelle don't. Who do you like other than them? Huckabee, Pawlenty, Christie?

Trump!

 

[Synthaholic]

i think Huck will be the nominee. It all comes down to Iowa, essentially.

Nope. Mitch Daniels.

ETA: Daniels already, as Indiana Governor, knows hot to speak the language of 'corn', so he will fit in quite easily in Iowa. He's one of them.

 

[Political Junky]

I haven't made up my mind yet, but I can tell you it is a NO to Romney for me.
but hey, if he blows your skirt up, have at it.

Then offer someone else who has a solid chance. Romney, Sarah and Michelle don't. Who do you like other than them? Huckabee, Pawlenty, Christie?

Trump!

The South, GOP's base, is sure to love Trump, a New Yorker.

 

[georgephillip]

You're clueless you and goergie need to get a room.

Do we thank Reagan for your regular access to a computer?

"...Is it any wonder that California seems to have all of the crazy homeless people? State mental hospitals were taken away by Governor Reagan in the seventies, and federal mental health programs were later taken away by President Reagan in the eighties.

"When Ronald Reagan was governor of California he systematically began closing down mental hospitals, later as president he would cut aid for federally-funded community mental health programs.

"It is not a coincidence that the homeless populations in the state of California grew in the seventies and eighties. The people were put out on the street when mental hospitals started to close all over the state.

Seeing an increase in crime, and brutal murders by Herb Mullin, a mental hospital patient, the state legislature passed a law that would stop Reagan from closing even more state-funded mental health hospitals.

"But Reagan would not be outdone.

"In 1980, congress proposed new legislation (PL 96-398) called the community mental health systems act (crafted by Ted Kennedy), but the program was killed by newly-elected President Ronald Reagan. This action ended the federal community mental health centers (see timeline on this link) program and its funding.

"In closing, the next time you pass by a homeless person in downtown San Francisco screaming to themselves at the top of their lungs, remember Reagan..."

And just say thanks.

Ronald Reagan

Please.. look at California now that the left has taken over... look at it...enough said.

Be careful.
If you look hard enough you'll see California's solution:

"California has over $17 billion on deposit in banks that have refused to honor its IOUs, forcing legislators to accept crippling budget cuts.

"These austerity measures are unnecessary.

"If the state were to deposit its money in its own state-owned bank, it could have enough credit to solve its budget crisis with funds to spare."

Don't worry.
Reagan was too ignorant to see the answer, also.

 

[sangha]

You're clueless you and goergie need to get a room.

Do we thank Reagan for your regular access to a computer?

"...Is it any wonder that California seems to have all of the crazy homeless people? State mental hospitals were taken away by Governor Reagan in the seventies, and federal mental health programs were later taken away by President Reagan in the eighties.

"When Ronald Reagan was governor of California he systematically began closing down mental hospitals, later as president he would cut aid for federally-funded community mental health programs.

"It is not a coincidence that the homeless populations in the state of California grew in the seventies and eighties. The people were put out on the street when mental hospitals started to close all over the state.

Seeing an increase in crime, and brutal murders by Herb Mullin, a mental hospital patient, the state legislature passed a law that would stop Reagan from closing even more state-funded mental health hospitals.

"But Reagan would not be outdone.

"In 1980, congress proposed new legislation (PL 96-398) called the community mental health systems act (crafted by Ted Kennedy), but the program was killed by newly-elected President Ronald Reagan. This action ended the federal community mental health centers (see timeline on this link) program and its funding.

"In closing, the next time you pass by a homeless person in downtown San Francisco screaming to themselves at the top of their lungs, remember Reagan..."

And just say thanks.

Ronald Reagan

Please.. look at California now that the left has taken over... look at it...enough said.

Look at what the wingnuts have done to Texas

Wow: Texas Deficit Estimate Comes In Worse Than The Worst Expectations

 

[sangha]

I don't live very far from Dixon, IL (Reagan's home town) and I've been to the place where he was a life guard many times. If you ever get the chance to go through the house that he was living in while in Dixon, IL, you will enjoy it. I think Reagan was an excellent Commander-in-Chief and I was proud to serve in the military while he was President.

Do you hold him responsible for the '83 Beirut barracks bombing?

What about Israel?

do you all hold Clinton responsible for the Oklahoma city bombing, the First World trade center bombing, the Uss Cole bombing, the Branch davidians killings, Elian Gonzales kidnapping by gunpoint while hiding in a closet.

Let's compare Clintons' response to those attacks with Ronnies' response to the Beirut barracks bombing, which killed more than 200 Marines

OKC - The Clinton admin pursued and caught the perps
WTC attack #1 - The Clinton admin pursued and caught the perps
USS Cole - The Clinton admin pursued the perps

The BD crimrinals and the Cuban kidnappers of Elian Gonzales are not terrorists

Now, let's see what Ronnie did in response to the Beirut barracks attack

Ronnie cut and run from Lebanon, and soon after invaded Grenada, thereby sending a message to the terrorists - "Attack us and we will invade a tropical island!!"

 

[sangha]

They just HATE to admit that Reagan was and is still admired even now in his death.

Some people just hate seeing a group of people suck a dead guy's dick so much. Necrophilia ain't cool yo.

Cut her some slack, for xrists sake. If it weren't for the dead, she'd never even see a hard dick.

 

[sangha]

Pardoned..big difference. Never convicted was Simpson's legacy...until that little incident in Nevada.

Neither Reagan nor North were ever convicted of anything re Iran Contra. Even the Democrats' special counsel, after years and mega millions of dollars of investigation, reported that though there were some minor laws broken, none carried any penalty. And that closed the books on Iran Contra. There were some minor players in that who were convicted but not for anything the Democrats wanted Reagan and North to be charged with.

North was convicted for falsifying evidence on a security fence around his home that he received after receiving death threats. (This wouldn't have been a problem except that he changed the date on a receipt.) And obstruction of justice--lying and withholding evidence from Congress. It was a conviction that he never would have received had he not been given immunity so that he could tell all to Congress. Evenso he received a very light sentence--some fines; some community service. The appellate court saw that he has been convicted after receiving immunity which put him in the constitutionally unacceptable position of incriminating himself and they threw it all out. As they should.

It's your right to defend treasonous and traitorous behavior. But it doesn't change it. Reagan violated the Constitution's separation of powers and committed treason when he made deals with an enemy foreign power prior to the election.

He admitted it. Nothing changes that.




There's no "out of context" here. That's the full, unedited speech. It's damning..and it's good that he was probably forced to make it.

The right LOVES making deals with terrorists and arming them with Stinger missiles

 

[ogibillm]

the worship of the myth of st. ronnie is disturbing at best

 

[Stephanie]

They just HATE to admit that Reagan was and is still admired even now in his death.

Some people just hate seeing a group of people suck a dead guy's dick so much. Necrophilia ain't cool yo.

Cut her some slack, for xrists sake. If it weren't for the dead, she'd never even see a hard dick.

real cute buddy boy

 

[sangha]

Some people just hate seeing a group of people suck a dead guy's dick so much. Necrophilia ain't cool yo.

Cut her some slack, for xrists sake. If it weren't for the dead, she'd never even see a hard dick.

real cute

I wish I could return the compliment

 

[Stephanie]

Cut her some slack, for xrists sake. If it weren't for the dead, she'd never even see a hard dick.

real cute

I wish I could return the compliment

no problem buddy boy

 

[Meister]

the worship of the myth of st. ronnie is disturbing at best

Worship? No...not worship. "Admire" would be more of the word conservatives use.
We leave the word "worship" in politics for the democrats with their messiah.

 

[elvis]

the worship of the myth of st. ronnie is disturbing at best

Worship? No...not worship. "Admire" would be more of the word conservatives use.
We leave the word "worship" in politics for the democrats with their messiah.

Ossiah.

 

[boedicca]

Thank you Ronnie!

I love that his 100th birthday is on SuperBowl Sunday and that tributes to him will be blasted all over the world. It's a reminder of the true American spirit and values.

 

[Trajan]

Of course by "people" you mean the backs of the board members of the biggest multinational corporations. Those long suffering "people" have been mighty grateful to Ronnie.

You're clueless you and goergie need to get a room.

Do we thank Reagan for your regular access to a computer?

"...Is it any wonder that California seems to have all of the crazy homeless people? State mental hospitals were taken away by Governor Reagan in the seventies, and federal mental health programs were later taken away by President Reagan in the eighties.

"When Ronald Reagan was governor of California he systematically began closing down mental hospitals, later as president he would cut aid for federally-funded community mental health programs.

"It is not a coincidence that the homeless populations in the state of California grew in the seventies and eighties. The people were put out on the street when mental hospitals started to close all over the state.

Seeing an increase in crime, and brutal murders by Herb Mullin, a mental hospital patient, the state legislature passed a law that would stop Reagan from closing even more state-funded mental health hospitals.

"But Reagan would not be outdone.

"In 1980, congress proposed new legislation (PL 96-398) called the community mental health systems act (crafted by Ted Kennedy), but the program was killed by newly-elected President Ronald Reagan. This action ended the federal community mental health centers (see timeline on this link) program and its funding.

"In closing, the next time you pass by a homeless person in downtown San Francisco screaming to themselves at the top of their lungs, remember Reagan..."

And just say thanks.

Ronald Reagan

uh huh, here we go another hit and run 'factoid'........nothing happens in a vacuum george....the advocacy for institutionalized was another 60's lefty academic exercise in messing with peoples lives absent any connection to the issue on the ground, in short they had no dog in the fight, people are just blocks of wood, even sick ones,...and they will make them feel better if only they had more 'rights'... deinstitutionalization another in the long line of failed lefty social policy. Reagan's mistake? he listened to these idiots.


for instance;

Bedlam Revisited
JONATHAN KELLERMAN
2007

Why the Virginia Tech shooter was not committed.
I was in graduate school, studying clinical psychology when they began shutting down the asylums. The place was California, the time was the early 1970s, and "they" were an unprecedented confederation of progressives, libertarians and fiscal conservatives.

From the left marched battalions of self-styled mental health "liberation activists" steeped in the writings of Scottish psychiatrist R.D. Laing. Though he denied being opposed to his own profession, Laing's notion that madness could be a reasonable reaction to an unjust society, or even a vehicle for spiritual transformation, helped fuel the anti-psychiatry movement of the post Love-In era. The most radical of Laingians carried revisionism one step further: Not only wasn't psychosis a bad thing, it was evidence of a superior level of consciousness.

The libertarians were fueled by Thomas Szasz, an iconoclastic psychiatrist who was, and remains, an outspoken foe of virtually every aspect of his chosen specialty. Hungarian-born in 1920, and witness to vicious state exploitation of medical practice by the Nazis and the communists, Dr. Szasz pushed an absolutist dogma of individual choice, finding ready converts among members of the Do-Your-Own-Thing generation. Though his early essays offered much-needed critiques of the Orwellian nightmares that can result when autocracy corrupts health care, Dr. Szasz devolved into something of a psychiatric Flat-Earther, insisting in the face of mounting contrary evidence that mental illness simply does not exist. Currently, he serves on a commission, cofounded with the Church of Scientology, that purports to investigate human rights violations perpetrated by mental health professionals.

Accepting the arguments of the liberationists and the libertarians at face value led to the assertion that no matter how bizarre, disabling or life-threatening a person's hallucinations and delusions, involuntary treatment was never called for. And to the assertion that violation of that premise created yet another class of political prisoners.

While moderate members of the anti-asylum movement were willing to concede that psychosis might pose difficulties for a few individuals, they insisted that society had no more right to force psychoactive drugs upon mental patients than it did to hold down diabetics for insulin injections. If treatment was to be offered, it needed to be consensually contracted between caregivers and care-recipients on an outpatient basis. That fit perfectly with the sensibilities of conservative scrooges searching for ways to cut the state budget, and all too happy to dismantle a massive state hospital system denigrated as inefficient at best and inhumane at worst. The replacement chosen was an untested, less costly treatment model: the community mental center.

more at-
Bedlam Revisited

be sure and read the whole article please.



and;

After the founding of the National Institutes of Mental Health (NIMH), new psychiatric medications were developed and introduced into state mental hospitals beginning in 1955. These new medicines brought new hope, and helped address some of the symptoms of mental disorders.

President John F. Kennedy's 1963 Community Mental Health Centers Act accelerated the trend toward deinstitutionalization with the establishment of a network of community mental health centers. In the 1960s, with the introduction of Medicare and Medicaid, the federal government assumed an increasing share of responsibility for the costs of mental health care. That trend continued into the 1970s with the implementation of the Supplemental Security Income program in 1974. State governments helped accelerate deinstitutionalization, especially of elderly people. In the 1960s and 1970s, state and national policies championed the need for comprehensive community mental health care, though this ideal was slowly and only partially realized.

Beginning in the 1980s, managed care systems began to review systematically the use of inpatient hospital care for mental health. Both public concerns and private health insurance policies generated financial incentives to admit fewer people to hospitals and discharge inpatients more rapidly, limit the length of patient stays, or to transfer responsibility to less costly forms of care.

Read more: Deinstitutionalization - causes, effects, therapy, person, people, health, Definition, History, Causes and consequences, Experience and adjustment Deinstitutionalization - causes, effects, therapy, person, people, health, Definition, History, Causes and consequences, Experience and adjustment

plus-

http://etd.fcla.edu/SF/SFE0000112/Thesis.pdf



and and for a laugh.....just to how you how far it had gone...


Joyce Patricia Brown (perhaps better known as Billie Boggs) was a mentally ill homeless person who defeated New York City's efforts to force her into a psychiatric treatment program. Her case set legal precedents for forced psychiatric care which have hamstrung involuntary psychiatric commitments of the homeless in New York and elsewhere.

In late 1987, NYC Mayor Ed Koch announced a new program for removing mentally disturbed homeless people from the streets, based on a state law allowing involuntary hospitalization of mentally ill people who were considered dangerous. Brown was the first homeless person to be involuntarily committed to a treatment program under the new program.

snip-
During Brown's 1987-1988 commitment and trial, Dr. Francine Cournos, a Columbia University assistant professor of psychiatry, testified that Brown was mentally ill.

Robert Levy, a staff attorney from the New York Civil Liberties Union (a state ACLU branch), defended her in court. On January 15, 1988, State Supreme Court Justice Irving Kirshenbaum ruled that New York City could not forcibly medicate Brown. Shortly thereafter, Acting State Supreme Court Justice Robert Lippmann ordered her released, in part because although she was mentally ill, her behavior was not obviously and immediately dangerous to anyone. She was released in late January after about eleven weeks of involuntary commitment and returned to the streets.

In 2000, the New York Daily News reported that Brown attended a talk sponsored by the Institute for Community Living. The article, which described Brown as "formerly homeless," stated she was continuing to receive drug counseling and had recently suffered a stroke.[1]

The Social Security Death Index [1] reports that Brown died on November 29, 2005.

Joyce Patricia Brown - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and for extra credit what legislature passed the bill that really sprung the door in cali in the 60's/70's?