WH OFFICIAL SCATHING OP ED NYT re Trump incompetence and AMORALITY!

[WTP]

Not one of these three clowns has even ATTEMPTED to explain why it's a crime for people connected to Donald Trump to simply meet with Veselnitskaya and not a crime for people connected to Hillary Clinton to meet REPEATEDLY with Veselnitskaya! WTP will once again cite a statute that doesn't apply to the situation! Faun will once again call me a "lying con tool" (which is his fall back whenever he can't refute what I've posted!) and Skylar will put on his blinders one more time and only see what he wants to see!

Seek help. The law for a conspiracy has already been presented to you. If you had a defense, don't you think by now your buddies would have come to your aid? Answer, Yes! Have they? No! They've read the law about conspiracies with foreign countries to get dirt on an opponent, as most informed people have. Jr. and his goons are guilty and the law spells it out clearly. Get over yourself, or get help.

 

[Oldstyle]

"The Moscow lawyer had been turned down for a visa to enter the U.S. lawfully but then was granted special immigration parole by then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch for the limited purpose of helping a company owned by Russian businessman Denis Katsyv, her client, defend itself against a Justice Department asset forfeiture case in federal court in New York City.

During a court hearing in early January 2016, as Veselnitskaya’s permission to stay in the country was about to expire, federal prosecutors described how rare the grant of parole immigration was as Veselnitskaya pleaded for more time to remain in the United States.

“In October the government bypassed 
the normal visa process and gave a type of extraordinary 
permission to enter the country called immigration parole,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Paul Monteleoni explained to the judge during a hearing on Jan. 6, 2016."
Exclusive: DOJ let Russian lawyer into US before she met with Trump team

You lying con tool -- your article says she entered the U.S. in 2015. Clearly, that had nothing to do with Trump.

And how did Veselnitskaya get into the US in 2015, Faun? OMG...she had to have special immigration parole issued by the Attorney General, Loretta Lynch! And what had to happen for that special immigration parole to be extended when it ran out, Faun? OMG...it had to be reissued by (Drumroll please!!!) Attorney General, Loretta Lynch!

So did you want to take a crack at explaining why if Veselnitskaya is this "agent" of a enemy nation as you and WTP want to portray her...she's being issued visa pardons by the Obama Justice Department? Did you want to explain to us all why it's a CRIME for Donald Trump Jr to have a meeting with this person who he thinks is going to provide "dirt" on Hillary Clinton...a meeting that lasted no time at all once Trump realized that she had no dirt on Clinton and the whole meeting was nothing more than a scam...but is fine when that same lawyer is meeting with Hillary Clinton's dirty tricks guy three times in three days centered AROUND the Trump Tower meeting? If Veselnitskaya is this evil person that the two of you claim...THEN WHAT IS SHE DOING WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HIRED TO SMEAR DONALD TRUMP!!!

We already explained the illegality of the Trump Tower meeting, with statutes attached to the illegal meeting. Why you keep asking the same thing, and not rebutting it when it is explained to you, can only be analyzed by mental professionals. You definitely do not play with a full deck.

You keep stating that it was an "illegal" meeting and I keep on pointing out that you're full of shit! Here's a hint for you, Sparky! If it WAS an illegal meeting, the Obama Justice Department would have brought someone up on charges for having it! The statute you keep trotting out has NOTHING to do with what took place that day at Trump Tower...something you can't seem to grasp!

It's rather obvious at this point that what took place back then was Glenn Simpson (Hillary Clinton's dirty tricks guy!) set up a meeting with the Trump campaign with a lawyer he knew from working for the same Russian oligarch as she did...to supposedly provide "dirt" on how Clinton was laundering money coming in from wealthy Russians...but in reality all Simpson wanted was the ability to accuse the Trump campaign of working with Putin against Hillary Clinton to take some of the heat off Clinton for her email and pay for play scandals at the State Department!

Telling me I am full of shit is not a counter argument. That argument is for cowards and liars like yourself. I presented the statute, and that statute matches perfectly with the crime.

As for Glenn Simpson and Fusion, you sir are not well. Seek help. Being an obsessive compulsive about a host of theories, that without concrete evidence for any of them, has become nothing more than a mental condition.

What CRIME? You keep "presenting" a statute that doesn't apply to what took place! It's idiotic! Anyone who thinks a crime DID take place and the Obama Justice Department didn't immediately bring charges is so naïve it's pathetic!

Kindly explain why it's a "crime" for someone in the Trump camp to talk to briefly to Veselnitskaya...but it's not a crime for someone in the Clinton camp to have three meetings with her over the space of three days! Or does your magic "statute" only apply to Republicans?

 

[Oldstyle]

Not one of these three clowns has even ATTEMPTED to explain why it's a crime for people connected to Donald Trump to simply meet with Veselnitskaya and not a crime for people connected to Hillary Clinton to meet REPEATEDLY with Veselnitskaya! WTP will once again cite a statute that doesn't apply to the situation! Faun will once again call me a "lying con tool" (which is his fall back whenever he can't refute what I've posted!) and Skylar will put on his blinders one more time and only see what he wants to see!

Seek help. The law for a conspiracy has already been presented to you. If you had a defense, don't you think by now your buddies would have come to your aid? Answer, Yes! Have they? No! They've read the law about conspiracies with foreign countries to get dirt on an opponent, as most informed people have. Jr. and his goons are guilty and the law spells it out clearly. Get over yourself, or get help.

Where in your statute does it say that a campaign can't get dirt on an opponent from a non American?

 

[Oldstyle]

In order to even attempt to make that case...you need Veselnitskaya to be a representative of the Russian Government (which at the time she was not!) but what makes your claims even MORE ridiculous is that if she WAS an agent of the Russian Government then why is Glenn Simpson meeting with her repeatedly and why is that not criminal as well? Can you not grasp how your whole narrative falls to pieces with even a cursory examination of the facts?

 

[Oldstyle]

Only someone as clueless as you, WTP wouldn't understand that the Mueller investigation looked into the Trump Tower meeting and then rather quickly moved on! Why? BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CRIME THAT TOOK PLACE THERE! DUH?

 

[WTP]

You lying con tool -- your article says she entered the U.S. in 2015. Clearly, that had nothing to do with Trump.

And how did Veselnitskaya get into the US in 2015, Faun? OMG...she had to have special immigration parole issued by the Attorney General, Loretta Lynch! And what had to happen for that special immigration parole to be extended when it ran out, Faun? OMG...it had to be reissued by (Drumroll please!!!) Attorney General, Loretta Lynch!

So did you want to take a crack at explaining why if Veselnitskaya is this "agent" of a enemy nation as you and WTP want to portray her...she's being issued visa pardons by the Obama Justice Department? Did you want to explain to us all why it's a CRIME for Donald Trump Jr to have a meeting with this person who he thinks is going to provide "dirt" on Hillary Clinton...a meeting that lasted no time at all once Trump realized that she had no dirt on Clinton and the whole meeting was nothing more than a scam...but is fine when that same lawyer is meeting with Hillary Clinton's dirty tricks guy three times in three days centered AROUND the Trump Tower meeting? If Veselnitskaya is this evil person that the two of you claim...THEN WHAT IS SHE DOING WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HIRED TO SMEAR DONALD TRUMP!!!

We already explained the illegality of the Trump Tower meeting, with statutes attached to the illegal meeting. Why you keep asking the same thing, and not rebutting it when it is explained to you, can only be analyzed by mental professionals. You definitely do not play with a full deck.

You keep stating that it was an "illegal" meeting and I keep on pointing out that you're full of shit! Here's a hint for you, Sparky! If it WAS an illegal meeting, the Obama Justice Department would have brought someone up on charges for having it! The statute you keep trotting out has NOTHING to do with what took place that day at Trump Tower...something you can't seem to grasp!

It's rather obvious at this point that what took place back then was Glenn Simpson (Hillary Clinton's dirty tricks guy!) set up a meeting with the Trump campaign with a lawyer he knew from working for the same Russian oligarch as she did...to supposedly provide "dirt" on how Clinton was laundering money coming in from wealthy Russians...but in reality all Simpson wanted was the ability to accuse the Trump campaign of working with Putin against Hillary Clinton to take some of the heat off Clinton for her email and pay for play scandals at the State Department!

Telling me I am full of shit is not a counter argument. That argument is for cowards and liars like yourself. I presented the statute, and that statute matches perfectly with the crime.

As for Glenn Simpson and Fusion, you sir are not well. Seek help. Being an obsessive compulsive about a host of theories, that without concrete evidence for any of them, has become nothing more than a mental condition.

What CRIME? You keep "presenting" a statute that doesn't apply to what took place! It's idiotic! Anyone who thinks a crime DID take place and the Obama Justice Department didn't immediately bring charges is so naïve it's pathetic!

Kindly explain why it's a "crime" for someone in the Trump camp to talk to briefly to Veselnitskaya...but it's not a crime for someone in the Clinton camp to have three meetings with her over the space of three days! Or does your magic "statute" only apply to Republicans?

You are not well; 11 CFR 110.20 - Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510). You may need to get someone to school you on interpretation, or you may need mental assistance?

 

[WTP]

Not one of these three clowns has even ATTEMPTED to explain why it's a crime for people connected to Donald Trump to simply meet with Veselnitskaya and not a crime for people connected to Hillary Clinton to meet REPEATEDLY with Veselnitskaya! WTP will once again cite a statute that doesn't apply to the situation! Faun will once again call me a "lying con tool" (which is his fall back whenever he can't refute what I've posted!) and Skylar will put on his blinders one more time and only see what he wants to see!

Seek help. The law for a conspiracy has already been presented to you. If you had a defense, don't you think by now your buddies would have come to your aid? Answer, Yes! Have they? No! They've read the law about conspiracies with foreign countries to get dirt on an opponent, as most informed people have. Jr. and his goons are guilty and the law spells it out clearly. Get over yourself, or get help.

Where in your statute does it say that a campaign can't get dirt on an opponent from a non American?

b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. 11 CFR 110.20 - Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).


Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Before running for president Trump was in fact known to be ignorant, incompetent, a serial sexual predator, and amoral – what exactly did Trump’s idiotic supporters think would happen once Trump became president.

 

[WTP]

Before running for president Trump was in fact known to be ignorant, incompetent, a serial sexual predator, and amoral – what exactly did Trump’s idiotic supporters think would happen once Trump became president.

Their hate ran so deep for Obama and Clinton, they would have voted for Charles Manson. Hate is a severe mental illness for more people than we will ever know.

 

[Oldstyle]

Before running for president Trump was in fact known to be ignorant, incompetent, a serial sexual predator, and amoral – what exactly did Trump’s idiotic supporters think would happen once Trump became president.

And yet people chose him over Hillary Clinton! Gee, think you folks on the left ran a bad candidate? (eye roll)

 

[Oldstyle]

And how did Veselnitskaya get into the US in 2015, Faun? OMG...she had to have special immigration parole issued by the Attorney General, Loretta Lynch! And what had to happen for that special immigration parole to be extended when it ran out, Faun? OMG...it had to be reissued by (Drumroll please!!!) Attorney General, Loretta Lynch!

So did you want to take a crack at explaining why if Veselnitskaya is this "agent" of a enemy nation as you and WTP want to portray her...she's being issued visa pardons by the Obama Justice Department? Did you want to explain to us all why it's a CRIME for Donald Trump Jr to have a meeting with this person who he thinks is going to provide "dirt" on Hillary Clinton...a meeting that lasted no time at all once Trump realized that she had no dirt on Clinton and the whole meeting was nothing more than a scam...but is fine when that same lawyer is meeting with Hillary Clinton's dirty tricks guy three times in three days centered AROUND the Trump Tower meeting? If Veselnitskaya is this evil person that the two of you claim...THEN WHAT IS SHE DOING WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HIRED TO SMEAR DONALD TRUMP!!!

We already explained the illegality of the Trump Tower meeting, with statutes attached to the illegal meeting. Why you keep asking the same thing, and not rebutting it when it is explained to you, can only be analyzed by mental professionals. You definitely do not play with a full deck.

You keep stating that it was an "illegal" meeting and I keep on pointing out that you're full of shit! Here's a hint for you, Sparky! If it WAS an illegal meeting, the Obama Justice Department would have brought someone up on charges for having it! The statute you keep trotting out has NOTHING to do with what took place that day at Trump Tower...something you can't seem to grasp!

It's rather obvious at this point that what took place back then was Glenn Simpson (Hillary Clinton's dirty tricks guy!) set up a meeting with the Trump campaign with a lawyer he knew from working for the same Russian oligarch as she did...to supposedly provide "dirt" on how Clinton was laundering money coming in from wealthy Russians...but in reality all Simpson wanted was the ability to accuse the Trump campaign of working with Putin against Hillary Clinton to take some of the heat off Clinton for her email and pay for play scandals at the State Department!

Telling me I am full of shit is not a counter argument. That argument is for cowards and liars like yourself. I presented the statute, and that statute matches perfectly with the crime.

As for Glenn Simpson and Fusion, you sir are not well. Seek help. Being an obsessive compulsive about a host of theories, that without concrete evidence for any of them, has become nothing more than a mental condition.

What CRIME? You keep "presenting" a statute that doesn't apply to what took place! It's idiotic! Anyone who thinks a crime DID take place and the Obama Justice Department didn't immediately bring charges is so naïve it's pathetic!

Kindly explain why it's a "crime" for someone in the Trump camp to talk to briefly to Veselnitskaya...but it's not a crime for someone in the Clinton camp to have three meetings with her over the space of three days! Or does your magic "statute" only apply to Republicans?

You are not well; 11 CFR 110.20 - Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510). You may need to get someone to school you on interpretation, or you may need mental assistance?

Are you REALLY claiming that a meeting where Veselnitskaya gave them nothing...somehow violates that statute? Can you still not grasp that the entire meeting was a sham put on by Glenn Simpson so he could smear the Trump campaign?

What's amusing is that the campaign that broke that statute repeatedly is the Clinton campaign. They took in millions in "donations" to the Clinton Foundation from foreign nationals through the pay for play scheme she was running at the State Department and used part of that money to help pay the salaries of the people who worked on her campaign!

 

[Oldstyle]

Not one of these three clowns has even ATTEMPTED to explain why it's a crime for people connected to Donald Trump to simply meet with Veselnitskaya and not a crime for people connected to Hillary Clinton to meet REPEATEDLY with Veselnitskaya! WTP will once again cite a statute that doesn't apply to the situation! Faun will once again call me a "lying con tool" (which is his fall back whenever he can't refute what I've posted!) and Skylar will put on his blinders one more time and only see what he wants to see!

Seek help. The law for a conspiracy has already been presented to you. If you had a defense, don't you think by now your buddies would have come to your aid? Answer, Yes! Have they? No! They've read the law about conspiracies with foreign countries to get dirt on an opponent, as most informed people have. Jr. and his goons are guilty and the law spells it out clearly. Get over yourself, or get help.

Where in your statute does it say that a campaign can't get dirt on an opponent from a non American?

b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. 11 CFR 110.20 - Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).


Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

I'm curious...do you think endlessly repeating something that has ZERO bearing on the meeting that took place somehow means you'll convince anyone that it does? Veselnitskaya was not an "officer" or "agent" of a foreign government...she was in the US as the lawyer of a private Russian citizen.

 

[WTP]

We already explained the illegality of the Trump Tower meeting, with statutes attached to the illegal meeting. Why you keep asking the same thing, and not rebutting it when it is explained to you, can only be analyzed by mental professionals. You definitely do not play with a full deck.

You keep stating that it was an "illegal" meeting and I keep on pointing out that you're full of shit! Here's a hint for you, Sparky! If it WAS an illegal meeting, the Obama Justice Department would have brought someone up on charges for having it! The statute you keep trotting out has NOTHING to do with what took place that day at Trump Tower...something you can't seem to grasp!

It's rather obvious at this point that what took place back then was Glenn Simpson (Hillary Clinton's dirty tricks guy!) set up a meeting with the Trump campaign with a lawyer he knew from working for the same Russian oligarch as she did...to supposedly provide "dirt" on how Clinton was laundering money coming in from wealthy Russians...but in reality all Simpson wanted was the ability to accuse the Trump campaign of working with Putin against Hillary Clinton to take some of the heat off Clinton for her email and pay for play scandals at the State Department!

Telling me I am full of shit is not a counter argument. That argument is for cowards and liars like yourself. I presented the statute, and that statute matches perfectly with the crime.

As for Glenn Simpson and Fusion, you sir are not well. Seek help. Being an obsessive compulsive about a host of theories, that without concrete evidence for any of them, has become nothing more than a mental condition.

What CRIME? You keep "presenting" a statute that doesn't apply to what took place! It's idiotic! Anyone who thinks a crime DID take place and the Obama Justice Department didn't immediately bring charges is so naïve it's pathetic!

Kindly explain why it's a "crime" for someone in the Trump camp to talk to briefly to Veselnitskaya...but it's not a crime for someone in the Clinton camp to have three meetings with her over the space of three days! Or does your magic "statute" only apply to Republicans?

You are not well; 11 CFR 110.20 - Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510). You may need to get someone to school you on interpretation, or you may need mental assistance?

Are you REALLY claiming that a meeting where Veselnitskaya gave them nothing...somehow violates that statute? Can you still not grasp that the entire meeting was a sham put on by Glenn Simpson so he could smear the Trump campaign?

What's amusing is that the campaign that broke that statute repeatedly is the Clinton campaign. They took in millions in "donations" to the Clinton Foundation from foreign nationals through the pay for play scheme she was running at the State Department and used part of that money to help pay the salaries of the people who worked on her campaign!

When you read statutes, you have no idea what it is that you read. If a bunch of guys get into a vehicle together to rob a bank and the driver stays in the car, while the other robbers fail to get the money, do you think that relieves the driver? Boss, that is a basic understanding of right and wrong. Our laws have already established that. Don Jr. set out to commit a crime. The thing of value he was after didn't happen. Again, another crime. This is ABC logic when it comes to the law. Your grade school counter arguments are a joke.

 

[WTP]

Not one of these three clowns has even ATTEMPTED to explain why it's a crime for people connected to Donald Trump to simply meet with Veselnitskaya and not a crime for people connected to Hillary Clinton to meet REPEATEDLY with Veselnitskaya! WTP will once again cite a statute that doesn't apply to the situation! Faun will once again call me a "lying con tool" (which is his fall back whenever he can't refute what I've posted!) and Skylar will put on his blinders one more time and only see what he wants to see!

Seek help. The law for a conspiracy has already been presented to you. If you had a defense, don't you think by now your buddies would have come to your aid? Answer, Yes! Have they? No! They've read the law about conspiracies with foreign countries to get dirt on an opponent, as most informed people have. Jr. and his goons are guilty and the law spells it out clearly. Get over yourself, or get help.

Where in your statute does it say that a campaign can't get dirt on an opponent from a non American?

b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. 11 CFR 110.20 - Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).


Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

I'm curious...do you think endlessly repeating something that has ZERO bearing on the meeting that took place somehow means you'll convince anyone that it does? Veselnitskaya was not an "officer" or "agent" of a foreign government...she was in the US as the lawyer of a private Russian citizen.

You seriously need to educate yourself. Veselnitskaya went there to represent the Russian government to get rid of the Magnitsky Act. Who do you think was working in coordination with her to do that? Enough said.

 

[WTP]

You lying con tool -- your article says she entered the U.S. in 2015. Clearly, that had nothing to do with Trump.

And how did Veselnitskaya get into the US in 2015, Faun? OMG...she had to have special immigration parole issued by the Attorney General, Loretta Lynch! And what had to happen for that special immigration parole to be extended when it ran out, Faun? OMG...it had to be reissued by (Drumroll please!!!) Attorney General, Loretta Lynch!

So did you want to take a crack at explaining why if Veselnitskaya is this "agent" of a enemy nation as you and WTP want to portray her...she's being issued visa pardons by the Obama Justice Department? Did you want to explain to us all why it's a CRIME for Donald Trump Jr to have a meeting with this person who he thinks is going to provide "dirt" on Hillary Clinton...a meeting that lasted no time at all once Trump realized that she had no dirt on Clinton and the whole meeting was nothing more than a scam...but is fine when that same lawyer is meeting with Hillary Clinton's dirty tricks guy three times in three days centered AROUND the Trump Tower meeting? If Veselnitskaya is this evil person that the two of you claim...THEN WHAT IS SHE DOING WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HIRED TO SMEAR DONALD TRUMP!!!

We already explained the illegality of the Trump Tower meeting, with statutes attached to the illegal meeting. Why you keep asking the same thing, and not rebutting it when it is explained to you, can only be analyzed by mental professionals. You definitely do not play with a full deck.

You keep stating that it was an "illegal" meeting and I keep on pointing out that you're full of shit! Here's a hint for you, Sparky! If it WAS an illegal meeting, the Obama Justice Department would have brought someone up on charges for having it! The statute you keep trotting out has NOTHING to do with what took place that day at Trump Tower...something you can't seem to grasp!

It's rather obvious at this point that what took place back then was Glenn Simpson (Hillary Clinton's dirty tricks guy!) set up a meeting with the Trump campaign with a lawyer he knew from working for the same Russian oligarch as she did...to supposedly provide "dirt" on how Clinton was laundering money coming in from wealthy Russians...but in reality all Simpson wanted was the ability to accuse the Trump campaign of working with Putin against Hillary Clinton to take some of the heat off Clinton for her email and pay for play scandals at the State Department!

Telling me I am full of shit is not a counter argument. That argument is for cowards and liars like yourself. I presented the statute, and that statute matches perfectly with the crime.

As for Glenn Simpson and Fusion, you sir are not well. Seek help. Being an obsessive compulsive about a host of theories, that without concrete evidence for any of them, has become nothing more than a mental condition.

What CRIME? You keep "presenting" a statute that doesn't apply to what took place! It's idiotic! Anyone who thinks a crime DID take place and the Obama Justice Department didn't immediately bring charges is so naïve it's pathetic!

Kindly explain why it's a "crime" for someone in the Trump camp to talk to briefly to Veselnitskaya...but it's not a crime for someone in the Clinton camp to have three meetings with her over the space of three days! Or does your magic "statute" only apply to Republicans?

The Obama justice department wasn't there when the crime was discovered.

The magic statute applies to Russians and other foreign countries. Who are people from another country. Russians are also adversaries for who we have sanctions against. It is illegal to involve them in our election process to get dirt on another American opponent. That is an attack on the U.S.

 

[WTP]

Not one of these three clowns has even ATTEMPTED to explain why it's a crime for people connected to Donald Trump to simply meet with Veselnitskaya and not a crime for people connected to Hillary Clinton to meet REPEATEDLY with Veselnitskaya! WTP will once again cite a statute that doesn't apply to the situation! Faun will once again call me a "lying con tool" (which is his fall back whenever he can't refute what I've posted!) and Skylar will put on his blinders one more time and only see what he wants to see!

Seek help. The law for a conspiracy has already been presented to you. If you had a defense, don't you think by now your buddies would have come to your aid? Answer, Yes! Have they? No! They've read the law about conspiracies with foreign countries to get dirt on an opponent, as most informed people have. Jr. and his goons are guilty and the law spells it out clearly. Get over yourself, or get help.

Where in your statute does it say that a campaign can't get dirt on an opponent from a non American?

Do you know what a foreign national is? Then find out. Because that is another label for this lawyer. And foreign nationals are included in the statute.

 

[Oldstyle]

Not one of these three clowns has even ATTEMPTED to explain why it's a crime for people connected to Donald Trump to simply meet with Veselnitskaya and not a crime for people connected to Hillary Clinton to meet REPEATEDLY with Veselnitskaya! WTP will once again cite a statute that doesn't apply to the situation! Faun will once again call me a "lying con tool" (which is his fall back whenever he can't refute what I've posted!) and Skylar will put on his blinders one more time and only see what he wants to see!

Seek help. The law for a conspiracy has already been presented to you. If you had a defense, don't you think by now your buddies would have come to your aid? Answer, Yes! Have they? No! They've read the law about conspiracies with foreign countries to get dirt on an opponent, as most informed people have. Jr. and his goons are guilty and the law spells it out clearly. Get over yourself, or get help.

Where in your statute does it say that a campaign can't get dirt on an opponent from a non American?

b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. 11 CFR 110.20 - Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).


Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

I'm curious...do you think endlessly repeating something that has ZERO bearing on the meeting that took place somehow means you'll convince anyone that it does? Veselnitskaya was not an "officer" or "agent" of a foreign government...she was in the US as the lawyer of a private Russian citizen.

You seriously need to educate yourself. Veselnitskaya went there to represent the Russian government to get rid of the Magnitsky Act. Who do you think was working in coordination with her to do that? Enough said.

No, YOU need to educate yourself! Veselnitskaya was there as the lawyer for Denis Katsyv...a Russian businessman who was being hurt by the Nagnitsky Act. She was not there in any official capacity whatsoever with the Russian government!

 

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And how did Veselnitskaya get into the US in 2015, Faun? OMG...she had to have special immigration parole issued by the Attorney General, Loretta Lynch! And what had to happen for that special immigration parole to be extended when it ran out, Faun? OMG...it had to be reissued by (Drumroll please!!!) Attorney General, Loretta Lynch!

So did you want to take a crack at explaining why if Veselnitskaya is this "agent" of a enemy nation as you and WTP want to portray her...she's being issued visa pardons by the Obama Justice Department? Did you want to explain to us all why it's a CRIME for Donald Trump Jr to have a meeting with this person who he thinks is going to provide "dirt" on Hillary Clinton...a meeting that lasted no time at all once Trump realized that she had no dirt on Clinton and the whole meeting was nothing more than a scam...but is fine when that same lawyer is meeting with Hillary Clinton's dirty tricks guy three times in three days centered AROUND the Trump Tower meeting? If Veselnitskaya is this evil person that the two of you claim...THEN WHAT IS SHE DOING WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HIRED TO SMEAR DONALD TRUMP!!!

We already explained the illegality of the Trump Tower meeting, with statutes attached to the illegal meeting. Why you keep asking the same thing, and not rebutting it when it is explained to you, can only be analyzed by mental professionals. You definitely do not play with a full deck.

You keep stating that it was an "illegal" meeting and I keep on pointing out that you're full of shit! Here's a hint for you, Sparky! If it WAS an illegal meeting, the Obama Justice Department would have brought someone up on charges for having it! The statute you keep trotting out has NOTHING to do with what took place that day at Trump Tower...something you can't seem to grasp!

It's rather obvious at this point that what took place back then was Glenn Simpson (Hillary Clinton's dirty tricks guy!) set up a meeting with the Trump campaign with a lawyer he knew from working for the same Russian oligarch as she did...to supposedly provide "dirt" on how Clinton was laundering money coming in from wealthy Russians...but in reality all Simpson wanted was the ability to accuse the Trump campaign of working with Putin against Hillary Clinton to take some of the heat off Clinton for her email and pay for play scandals at the State Department!

Telling me I am full of shit is not a counter argument. That argument is for cowards and liars like yourself. I presented the statute, and that statute matches perfectly with the crime.

As for Glenn Simpson and Fusion, you sir are not well. Seek help. Being an obsessive compulsive about a host of theories, that without concrete evidence for any of them, has become nothing more than a mental condition.

What CRIME? You keep "presenting" a statute that doesn't apply to what took place! It's idiotic! Anyone who thinks a crime DID take place and the Obama Justice Department didn't immediately bring charges is so naïve it's pathetic!

Kindly explain why it's a "crime" for someone in the Trump camp to talk to briefly to Veselnitskaya...but it's not a crime for someone in the Clinton camp to have three meetings with her over the space of three days! Or does your magic "statute" only apply to Republicans?

The Obama justice department wasn't there when the crime was discovered.

The magic statute applies to Russians and other foreign countries. Who are people from another country. Russians are also adversaries for who we have sanctions against. It is illegal to involve them in our election process to get dirt on another American opponent. That is an attack on the U.S.

What statute makes it "illegal" for a private citizen from another country to provide "dirt" on someone running for office in America? The statute that you keep citing doesn't come close to doing that!

What that statute DOES make illegal is for foreign entities to inject millions of dollars into our elections to support a candidate! Gee, now who's campaign did that? Oh, that's right...that would be the Hillary Clinton campaign who used money from the Clinton Foundation to help pay the salaries of Hillary's reelection campaign staff! Now THAT is an attack on the US elections, WTP! Call Robert Mueller and get him busy on investigating that...will you!

 

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Seek help. The law for a conspiracy has already been presented to you. If you had a defense, don't you think by now your buddies would have come to your aid? Answer, Yes! Have they? No! They've read the law about conspiracies with foreign countries to get dirt on an opponent, as most informed people have. Jr. and his goons are guilty and the law spells it out clearly. Get over yourself, or get help.

Where in your statute does it say that a campaign can't get dirt on an opponent from a non American?

b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. 11 CFR 110.20 - Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).


Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

I'm curious...do you think endlessly repeating something that has ZERO bearing on the meeting that took place somehow means you'll convince anyone that it does? Veselnitskaya was not an "officer" or "agent" of a foreign government...she was in the US as the lawyer of a private Russian citizen.

You seriously need to educate yourself. Veselnitskaya went there to represent the Russian government to get rid of the Magnitsky Act. Who do you think was working in coordination with her to do that? Enough said.

No, YOU need to educate yourself! Veselnitskaya was there as the lawyer for Denis Katsyv...a Russian businessman who was being hurt by the Nagnitsky Act. She was not there in any official capacity whatsoever with the Russian government!

Lying con tool …. where does that statute limit "foreign nationals" to only foreign government officials?

(b) Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
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(3) Foreign national means -

(i) A foreign principal, as defined in 22 U.S.C. 611(b); or

(ii) An individual who is not a citizen of the United States and who is not lawfully admitted for permanent residence, as defined in 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(20); however,

(iii)Foreign national shall not include any individual who is a citizen of the United States, or who is a national of the United States as defined in 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(22).

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Where in your statute does it say that a campaign can't get dirt on an opponent from a non American?

b)Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election. 11 CFR 110.20 - Prohibition on contributions, donations, expenditures, independent expenditures, and disbursements by foreign nationals (52 U.S.C. 30121, 36 U.S.C. 510).


Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

I'm curious...do you think endlessly repeating something that has ZERO bearing on the meeting that took place somehow means you'll convince anyone that it does? Veselnitskaya was not an "officer" or "agent" of a foreign government...she was in the US as the lawyer of a private Russian citizen.

You seriously need to educate yourself. Veselnitskaya went there to represent the Russian government to get rid of the Magnitsky Act. Who do you think was working in coordination with her to do that? Enough said.

No, YOU need to educate yourself! Veselnitskaya was there as the lawyer for Denis Katsyv...a Russian businessman who was being hurt by the Nagnitsky Act. She was not there in any official capacity whatsoever with the Russian government!

Lying con tool …. where does that statute limit "foreign nationals" to only foreign government officials?

(b) Contributions and donations by foreign nationals in connection with elections. A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
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(3) Foreign national means -

(i) A foreign principal, as defined in 22 U.S.C. 611(b); or

(ii) An individual who is not a citizen of the United States and who is not lawfully admitted for permanent residence, as defined in 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(20); however,

(iii)Foreign national shall not include any individual who is a citizen of the United States, or who is a national of the United States as defined in 8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(22).

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The only people making donations to a candidate in that election were all of the foreign nationals that were giving millions to the Clinton Foundation that Hillary was then using to help fund her reelection campaign, Faun. Are you claiming that Veselnitskaya gave money to the Trump campaign? I must have missed when that happened!