West Virginia Coal Miners: some good news, some bad news

[JLW]

Coal Miners who voted for Donald Trump to keep West Virginia’s mines humming applaud the president’s executive orders allowing power plants to burn more coal.

But the Trump administration has also cut programs that keep miners safe, shutting down the country’s only program tracking an epidemic of black-lung disease and silicosis, and firing technicians who give miners chest X-rays. It has also signaled a scaling back of at least 35 offices at the agency that inspects mines.

Unfortunately this is West Virginia where among all 50 states, West Virginia has the highest percentage of people living in counties where government aid is a significant share of personal income, according to think tank Economic Innovation Group. Nearly 27% of West Virginia residents, for instance, were Social Security beneficiaries in 2023, the highest share among states, according to federal data.

Also unfortunately for these coal miners Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fired scientists at the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health that helped coal miners.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/west-virginians-cheer-trumps-pro-coal-agenda-but-fret-over-safety-cuts-172d20b6?mod=hp_lead_pos10

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I guess the message to coal miners from Trump is “I appreciate your giving your lives for coal, but damnit don’t come asking the government handouts after you get sick or ask that your mines be safe.”

Coal as an energy source is headed out. Hillary was right. She was looking to future. Like all things Trump, he only looks back. Too bad West Virginians can’t see that.

 

[initforme]

Coal Miners who voted for Donald Trump to keep West Virginia’s mines humming applaud the president’s executive orders allowing power plants to burn more coal.

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But the Trump administration has also cut programs that keep miners safe, shutting down the country’s only program tracking an epidemic of black-lung disease and silicosis, and firing technicians who give miners chest X-rays. It has also signaled a scaling back of at least 35 offices at the agency that inspects mines.

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Unfortunately this is West Virginia where among all 50 states, West Virginia has the highest percentage of people living in counties where government aid is a significant share of personal income, according to think tank Economic Innovation Group. Nearly 27% of West Virginia residents, for instance, were Social Security beneficiaries in 2023, the highest share among states, according to federal data.

Also unfortunately for these coal miners Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fired scientists at the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health that helped coal miners.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/west-virginians-cheer-trumps-pro-coal-agenda-but-fret-over-safety-cuts-172d20b6?mod=hp_lead_pos10

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I guess the message to coal miners from Trump is “I appreciate your giving your lives for coal, but damnit don’t come asking the government handouts after you get sick or ask that your mines be safe.”

Coal as an energy source is headed out. Hillary was right. She was looking to future. Like all things Trump, he only looks back. Too bad West Virginians can’t see that.

This cannot be true. Shutting down black lung disease tracking and such? No way this can happen in a nation awash in wealth. Is there legit links to this?

 

[JLW]

This cannot be true. Shutting down black lung disease tracking and such? No way this can happen in a nation awash in wealth. Is there legit links to this?

The WSJ is not legit?

 

[Zincwarrior]

This cannot be true. Shutting down black lung disease tracking and such? No way this can happen in a nation awash in wealth. Is there legit links to this?

Its almost like Trump is a billionaire who tries to fuck you over with frauds, importing Chinese goods, and using illegal labor!

 

[initforme]

The WSJ is not legit?

I'm not sure. But I do know you protect those miners like they are incredibly fragile. They should have zero pay deductible and 10 weeks paid time off....to start. 6 figure salaries as well.

 

[whitehall]

Unflattering photos of coal miners substitutes for discussion. No surprises here.

 

[MarathonMike]

Coal Miners who voted for Donald Trump to keep West Virginia’s mines humming applaud the president’s executive orders allowing power plants to burn more coal.

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But the Trump administration has also cut programs that keep miners safe, shutting down the country’s only program tracking an epidemic of black-lung disease and silicosis, and firing technicians who give miners chest X-rays. It has also signaled a scaling back of at least 35 offices at the agency that inspects mines.

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Unfortunately this is West Virginia where among all 50 states, West Virginia has the highest percentage of people living in counties where government aid is a significant share of personal income, according to think tank Economic Innovation Group. Nearly 27% of West Virginia residents, for instance, were Social Security beneficiaries in 2023, the highest share among states, according to federal data.

Also unfortunately for these coal miners Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fired scientists at the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health that helped coal miners.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/west-virginians-cheer-trumps-pro-coal-agenda-but-fret-over-safety-cuts-172d20b6?mod=hp_lead_pos10

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I guess the message to coal miners from Trump is “I appreciate your giving your lives for coal, but damnit don’t come asking the government handouts after you get sick or ask that your mines be safe.”

Coal as an energy source is headed out. Hillary was right. She was looking to future. Like all things Trump, he only looks back. Too bad West Virginians can’t see that.

Coal miners got the greatest news of all on November 5th when they learned that the Party who tried to bury American coal mining forever got their asses kicked out of office. This WSJ hit piece is weasel worded bullshit.

 

[whitehall]

The US relies on fossil fuel and the technology has come a long way.

 

[initforme]

Coal miners got the greatest news of all on November 5th when they learned that the Party who tried to bury American coal mining forever got their asses kicked out of office. This WSJ hit piece is weasel worded bullshit.

And every last little medical need those miners have should cost them less than zero. And their wages should double immediately. Then I'm somewhat on board.

 

[Crepitus]

Coal Miners who voted for Donald Trump to keep West Virginia’s mines humming applaud the president’s executive orders allowing power plants to burn more coal.

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But the Trump administration has also cut programs that keep miners safe, shutting down the country’s only program tracking an epidemic of black-lung disease and silicosis, and firing technicians who give miners chest X-rays. It has also signaled a scaling back of at least 35 offices at the agency that inspects mines.

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Unfortunately this is West Virginia where among all 50 states, West Virginia has the highest percentage of people living in counties where government aid is a significant share of personal income, according to think tank Economic Innovation Group. Nearly 27% of West Virginia residents, for instance, were Social Security beneficiaries in 2023, the highest share among states, according to federal data.

Also unfortunately for these coal miners Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fired scientists at the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health that helped coal miners.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/west-virginians-cheer-trumps-pro-coal-agenda-but-fret-over-safety-cuts-172d20b6?mod=hp_lead_pos10

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I guess the message to coal miners from Trump is “I appreciate your giving your lives for coal, but damnit don’t come asking the government handouts after you get sick or ask that your mines be safe.”

Coal as an energy source is headed out. Hillary was right. She was looking to future. Like all things Trump, he only looks back. Too bad West Virginians can’t see that.

Yay, they get to die while making coal barons richer and killing people with pollution!

 

[22lcidw]

Coal Miners who voted for Donald Trump to keep West Virginia’s mines humming applaud the president’s executive orders allowing power plants to burn more coal.

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But the Trump administration has also cut programs that keep miners safe, shutting down the country’s only program tracking an epidemic of black-lung disease and silicosis, and firing technicians who give miners chest X-rays. It has also signaled a scaling back of at least 35 offices at the agency that inspects mines.

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Unfortunately this is West Virginia where among all 50 states, West Virginia has the highest percentage of people living in counties where government aid is a significant share of personal income, according to think tank Economic Innovation Group. Nearly 27% of West Virginia residents, for instance, were Social Security beneficiaries in 2023, the highest share among states, according to federal data.

Also unfortunately for these coal miners Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fired scientists at the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health that helped coal miners.

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/west-virginians-cheer-trumps-pro-coal-agenda-but-fret-over-safety-cuts-172d20b6?mod=hp_lead_pos10

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I guess the message to coal miners from Trump is “I appreciate your giving your lives for coal, but damnit don’t come asking the government handouts after you get sick or ask that your mines be safe.”

Coal as an energy source is headed out. Hillary was right. She was looking to future. Like all things Trump, he only looks back. Too bad West Virginians can’t see that.

Stats can mean things. A lot of times we do not get all of the particulars of a stat. West Virginia is cheap to live in. Do people move there that collect Social Security or even with small pensions to live better? Again, stats can be muddled.

 

[elektra]

Who gives a shit
We know what where and how black lung disease happens.
OSHA tracks black lung
We dont need a high paid college graduate, tracking/counting how many cases there are.

Black Lung is a problem that occured in another century. In the 21st century, it aint a West Virginia problem

Democrats will turn a drink of water of Trump's into a negative issue.

 

[Missourian]

Miners have a union, and they aren't afraid to use it.

My grandad was a coal miner and two of my cousins work the mines to this day.

 

[1srelluc]

You need to keep up with the times OP.





The Trump administration on Tuesday temporarily reinstated dozens of fired federal workers who help screen coal miners for black lung, a deadly and incurable disease caused by inhaling toxic coal dust.

MSN

 

[g5000]

Trump stated the facts in 1992.

TRUMP: I like the challenge and tell the story of the coal miner’s son. The coal miner gets black-lung disease, his son gets it, then his son . If I had been the son of a coal miner, I would have left the damn mines. But most people don’t have the imagination–or whatever–to leave their mine. They don’t have “it.”

PLAYBOY: Which is?

TRUMP: “It” is an ability to become an entrepreneur, a great athlete, a great writer. You’re either born with it or you’re not.


Those are the true feelings Trump has toward his supporters, and why he knows he can con them forever.

 

[g5000]

As I have stated ad nauseum, the days of going to work in your daddy's factory, or in this case your daddy's mine, are over.

Trump is flatly lying about bringing back coal jobs.

It is easier to lie than to retool our education system, and so long as the cult keeps falling for his BULLSHIT, then our kids are FUCKED.

Here's the real truth about coal jobs:

Before anyone uses CultLogic™ and claims those jobs went to 'Gina', here is the history of US coal production during the same period.

 

[g5000]

West Virginia Coal Miners: some good news, some bad news​

There is no good news for coal miners. They're fucked, and they should take Trump's advice from 1992 in his Playboy interview and get the hell out of the mines.

 

[MarathonMike]

And every last little medical need those miners have should cost them less than zero. And their wages should double immediately. Then I'm somewhat on board.

I'll go with the best available medical care big wages increases, I'd have to see the details on doubling wages. But I'm all for the miners, the farmers, the truck drivers, the garbage truck drivers.....everyone who make this country go. Fortunately we now have a President who is all for them, too.