We need a Federal "No Masks Allowed" law at all demonstrations and marches.

[BasicHumanUnit]

So, it does nothing to stop the violence, it is just an additional punishment once the thug is caught?
Not useless, but not really helpful in the context of STOPPING mob violence.

It could deter the violence. If they didn't prefer to commit these crimes hidden, they wouldn't be wearing the masks.

I think it'll help.

 

[Correll]

IMO the time has come for a nationwide "No Masks Allowed" law at any public march or demonstration. We have had too many peaceful demonstrators attacked by individuals who hide their identities with masks so that they may carry out vicious attacks without consequence. We also have had several demonstrations that turned violent because the police were either nowhere to be seen or present but not willing to intervene to keep the peace.

If local police forces cannot be counted on to maintain the peace, then we can't allow people to show up at public marches concealing their identity. This is not a Right/Left issue it is a safety issue.

Have I got this wrong, is there some individual rights issue here that is more important than the safety of the demonstrators?

Canada has outlawed the wearing of masks during riots and unlawful assemblies.

They have also made it a crime to wear a mask with the intent of committing a crime.

Two ideas worth considering.

1. How do you prove that someone is wearing it with the intent to commit a crime?


2. And that does not give you power to stop people from wearing the masks, to give cover for those who ARE there to commit crimes.

You would probably have to catch them in the act.

So, it does nothing to stop the violence, it is just an additional punishment once the thug is caught?


Not useless, but not really helpful in the context of STOPPING mob violence.

Okay

Now, if you just outlaw the public wearing of masks, you can arrest anyone that is wearing a mask, and that will discourage, mob violence.

 

[Correll]

So, it does nothing to stop the violence, it is just an additional punishment once the thug is caught?
Not useless, but not really helpful in the context of STOPPING mob violence.

It could deter the violence. If they didn't prefer to commit these crimes hidden, they wouldn't be wearing the masks.

I think it'll help.

True. but better to just arrest them for wearing the mask.

 

[Tehon]

Canada has outlawed the wearing of masks during riots and unlawful assemblies.

They have also made it a crime to wear a mask with the intent of committing a crime.

Two ideas worth considering.

1. How do you prove that someone is wearing it with the intent to commit a crime?


2. And that does not give you power to stop people from wearing the masks, to give cover for those who ARE there to commit crimes.

You would probably have to catch them in the act.

So, it does nothing to stop the violence, it is just an additional punishment once the thug is caught?


Not useless, but not really helpful in the context of STOPPING mob violence.

Okay

Now, if you just outlaw the public wearing of masks, you can arrest anyone that is wearing a mask, and that will discourage, mob violence.

Mardi Gras?

Halloween?

 

[Correll]

1. How do you prove that someone is wearing it with the intent to commit a crime?


2. And that does not give you power to stop people from wearing the masks, to give cover for those who ARE there to commit crimes.

You would probably have to catch them in the act.

So, it does nothing to stop the violence, it is just an additional punishment once the thug is caught?


Not useless, but not really helpful in the context of STOPPING mob violence.

Okay

Now, if you just outlaw the public wearing of masks, you can arrest anyone that is wearing a mask, and that will discourage, mob violence.

Mardi Gras?

Halloween?

Good question....


If only there was some way to write a law that has exceptions for children, and/or certain holidays, or perhaps limits the ban to the context of political rallies or something like it.


Wait, it is completely possible to write such exceptions into a law.


YOu are welcome.

 

[Tehon]

You would probably have to catch them in the act.

So, it does nothing to stop the violence, it is just an additional punishment once the thug is caught?


Not useless, but not really helpful in the context of STOPPING mob violence.

Okay

Now, if you just outlaw the public wearing of masks, you can arrest anyone that is wearing a mask, and that will discourage, mob violence.

Mardi Gras?

Halloween?

Good question....


If only there was some way to write a law that has exceptions for children, and/or certain holidays, or perhaps limits the ban to the context of political rallies or something like it.


Wait, it is completely possible to write such exceptions into a law.


YOu are welcome.

perhaps limits the ban to the context of political rallies or something like it.

I gave two ideas taken from Canadian law. That one ^ was the one you ignored.

 

[Correll]

So, it does nothing to stop the violence, it is just an additional punishment once the thug is caught?


Not useless, but not really helpful in the context of STOPPING mob violence.

Okay

Now, if you just outlaw the public wearing of masks, you can arrest anyone that is wearing a mask, and that will discourage, mob violence.

Mardi Gras?

Halloween?

Good question....


If only there was some way to write a law that has exceptions for children, and/or certain holidays, or perhaps limits the ban to the context of political rallies or something like it.


Wait, it is completely possible to write such exceptions into a law.


YOu are welcome.

perhaps limits the ban to the context of political rallies or something like it.

I gave two ideas taken from Canadian law. That one ^ was the one you ignored.

Big difference between "riots and unlawful assemblies" and " political rallies".



Cause it is quite common for antifa violence to break out at lawful assemblies.

 

[Tehon]

Okay

Now, if you just outlaw the public wearing of masks, you can arrest anyone that is wearing a mask, and that will discourage, mob violence.

Mardi Gras?

Halloween?

Good question....


If only there was some way to write a law that has exceptions for children, and/or certain holidays, or perhaps limits the ban to the context of political rallies or something like it.


Wait, it is completely possible to write such exceptions into a law.


YOu are welcome.

perhaps limits the ban to the context of political rallies or something like it.

I gave two ideas taken from Canadian law. That one ^ was the one you ignored.

Big difference between "riots and unlawful assemblies" and " political rallies".



Cause it is quite common for antifa violence to break out at lawful assemblies.

Fair enough.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Now, if you just outlaw the public wearing of masks, you can arrest anyone that is wearing a mask, and that will discourage, mob violence.
Halloween?

Those are different.
I think what needs to be done is no masks allowed at protest gatherings such as demonstrations etc.

You know, where tempers flare and emotions are already at extremes.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Ain't gonna sell in New Orleans.

Are ya fucken retarded?

Did ya fucken CLICK THE LINK?

You're fucken retarded....
Stop trying equate a party atmosphere with a riot.

Once AGAIN ---- the OP of this thread reads, and I quote:

MARATHONMIKE SAID: ↑

IMO the time has come for a nationwide "No Masks Allowed" law at any public march or demonstration.​

Go learn to READ.

New Orleans has PARADES where the participants in the PARADE sometimes wear fun masks. That is clearly different than what the law would be addressing.

/----/ Unless you're the villain in a 007 movie disguised in the parade so you can kill James Bond.

 

[cnm]

This is about Antifa and fascist leftist pigs...not government.

You want the nanny state to reduce your freedoms.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

This is about Antifa and fascist leftist pigs...not government.

You want the nanny state to reduce your freedoms.

Not at all.
What I really want is for your leftbeenies to stop acting insane and trying to destroy a great thing. (too late)

Just think, if EVERYONE was responsible and civil, we wouldn't even need Police.....probably not even government.

 

[Pogo]

Then maybe you need to amend your OP. I'm quoting exactly what you wrote. And what you titled this thread. Unlike the wacko above I won't presume you wrote one thing and meant another.

Just admit you're a moron waste product and move on. After all, you think Socialism is great.

Everyone but you slow learners knew what he meant. It's called Cognitive abilities.

I read what the page says, Hunior. And I don't purport to impart meanings that AREN'T THE FUCK THERE.

You're WRONG. DEAL with it.

 

[Paulie]

IMO the time has come for a nationwide "No Masks Allowed" law at any public march or demonstration. We have had too many peaceful demonstrators attacked by individuals who hide their identities with masks so that they may carry out vicious attacks without consequence. We also have had several demonstrations that turned violent because the police were either nowhere to be seen or present but not willing to intervene to keep the peace.

If local police forces cannot be counted on to maintain the peace, then we can't allow people to show up at public marches concealing their identity. This is not a Right/Left issue it is a safety issue.

Have I got this wrong, is there some individual rights issue here that is more important than the safety of the demonstrators?

Honestly I respect the hell out of you for asking that last question. God forbid we try to rationalize our thought process before we act emotionally on something. As someone who leans more libertarian I struggle with a 1st amendment rights issue on this and id rather err on the side of liberty than let yet another slippery slope of a law be added to the millions of them that already exist. It's almost the same as saying a gun is the cause of a shooting rather than the person doing the shooting. The mask isn't the problem it's the fucking morons behind them

 

[Malice]

IMO the time has come for a nationwide "No Masks Allowed" law at any public march or demonstration. We have had too many peaceful demonstrators attacked by individuals who hide their identities with masks so that they may carry out vicious attacks without consequence. We also have had several demonstrations that turned violent because the police were either nowhere to be seen or present but not willing to intervene to keep the peace.

If local police forces cannot be counted on to maintain the peace, then we can't allow people to show up at public marches concealing their identity. This is not a Right/Left issue it is a safety issue.

Have I got this wrong, is there some individual rights issue here that is more important than the safety of the demonstrators?

Does this include police?? The most violent gang in existence.

 

[Pogo]

IMO the time has come for a nationwide "No Masks Allowed" law at any public march or demonstration. We have had too many peaceful demonstrators attacked by individuals who hide their identities with masks so that they may carry out vicious attacks without consequence. We also have had several demonstrations that turned violent because the police were either nowhere to be seen or present but not willing to intervene to keep the peace.

If local police forces cannot be counted on to maintain the peace, then we can't allow people to show up at public marches concealing their identity. This is not a Right/Left issue it is a safety issue.

Have I got this wrong, is there some individual rights issue here that is more important than the safety of the demonstrators?

Does this include police?? The most violent gang in existence.

Excellent point.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

‘We need a Federal "No Masks Allowed" law at all demonstrations and marches.’

No, we don’t.

More laws, more government, and more restrictions on our civil liberties is not the answer.

 

[Malice]

Funny

‘We need a Federal "No Masks Allowed" law at all demonstrations and marches.’

No, we don’t.

More laws, more government, and more restrictions on our civil liberties is not the answer.

Funny how many people on this thread want less government but more laws. Just a bunch of closet statists.

 

[eagle1462010]

They make shields and carry metal pipes and have used them on citizens. Those however crude are WEAPONS........They come looking for a fight every time. They by their own words WANT A FIGHT..........To gather with the purpose of harm is instigating a RIOT.

 

[eagle1462010]