Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.
money.....
Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.
And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.
actually, right now it has been dictating gun policy, including the writing of statutes. that's what lobbyists do. and GOP pols are subject to their influence because you don't find one-issue NRA voters anywhere but the reddest states.
I'm not familiar with this issue. Can you give me an example of an NRA lobbyist dictating gun policy?
right now about 2% of Americans have 50% of the country's guns. those 2% are the one-issue voters. you see them spamming this board with NRA propaganda. the rest of the country wants enough regulation to prevent people who shouldn't have guns from getting them. that doesn't require bans. it doesn't require any infringement on the 2nd. it only requires a willingness to target the dangerously ill, felons and domestic abusers to make huge inroads.
the next posts you see will include some type of BS that those changes "won't end gun violence". that's probably true. but we basically have a mass shooting a day in this country. that's obscene and we don't look at any other problem and say "oh well, it won't solve the problem 100% so we won't do anything"
Pro 2nd Amendment people are not suggesting we do nothing in lieu of banning firearms. They and the NRA have proposed alternative measures to approach the problem but, just as you say 2nd Amendment supporters do, pro gun control advocates say it won't solve the problem. So around and around we go.
And the deputies on scene made sure he had access to his victims of choice.
The NRA doesn't dictate gun policy in this country, contrary to what most liberals may believe.
The NRA has conservatives by the balls
Young people like David Hogg want to hold them accountable
Maybe, maybe not. But they still don't dictate gun policy. If the NRA has some conservatives by the balls it's because they allowed it to happen.
money.....
Yes, of course it's about money. But the NRA still does not dictate gun policy.
And don't kid yourself into thinking that Democrat politicians are not taking money from lobby groups.
who said democrats don't take money from lobbying groups? just wondering.
Liberals have been vilifying conservative politicians for taking money from the NRA so you tell me.
but democrats don't take money from the gun manufacturers' lobby. do they?
Collin Peterson and Henry Cuellar, both Democrat congressmen from Minnesota and Texas, respectively, took money from the NRA this year. Sanford Bishop (Democrat from Georgia) and Henry Cuellar took money from the NRA in 2016. John Barrow, Nick Rahall, Collin Peterson and Sanford Bishop, Democrat congressmen from Georgia, West Virginia, Minnesota and Georgia, respectively, took money from the NRA in 2014. Need I go on?
are people dying because of any lobbies democrats fund?
Well, if it's true that people are dying as a direct result of NRA political contributions then yes, people are dying because of Democrat lobbyist contributions to the tune of over 600,000 killed each year. That's roughly the number of babies killed annually because of the abortion lobby contributions.
I took a look at all these and I see that they give a lot of money to politicians and whatnot but I see nothing here to suggest that the NRA dictates gun policy.
and hiding behind being "Pro 2nd amendment" is nonsense. you aren't "pro 2nd amendment". you're pro unlimited access to unlimited weapons by people who shouldn't be allowed to have those weapons.
Um, no. This is nothing short of demonizing your opponent because by doing so, in your mind, it renders his/her arguments as less valid. If he's an amoral monster then his arguments can have no credence. It's a classic debate tactic that does nothing more than express your personal opinion of your opponent's character and contributes nothing to the debate.
Having said that, speaking for myself, being pro 2nd Amendment only means I support the right to bear arms. Why the hell would I want unlimited access to unlimited weapons for people who shouldn't have them?
and that has NEVER been what the 2nd amendment stands for. not ever... until NRA propaganda .... on behalf of gun manufacturers.
oh... there's a shooting at a school? 17 people were murdered? no problem. ... buy more guns, right?
If you're referring to the jump in gun sales after a shooting, this happens because people fear that the shooting will bring legislation that will prevent them from buying in the future.