Watch this interview with a bedrock Republican Bush appointee who once ran USAID.

This is a discussion forum so it would be rather appropriate to show the waste and fraud from USAID in a counterpoint to justify the shutting down of the agency. That would be presenting a substantive argument
I would argue that we need to spend that money here. North Carolina needs bridges, and people need employment.
 

I realize what the reflexive response will be considering the interview took place on MSNBC. If you can get past that you can judge for yourself whether Andrew Natsios, the USAID administrator under George Bush, has something of value to say. You can skip to roughly the 2 minute mark of the interview.

I think he offers some valuable insight in to the work of the agency you don't hear about over the din of vitriol about Musk, his lack of authority to do what he's doing, and his obvious conflicts of interest.
Oh gee, a former recipient of the gravy train has a sad because the gravy train has been taken away from his fellow leeches.

Fuck 'em. They can earn their money like the rest of us.
 
I would argue that we need to spend that money here. North Carolina needs bridges, and people need employment.
Is that what’s happening? Did Trump redirect the aid back to the USA?
 
You need to go further in to the interview. Try to keep an open mind. Thanks.

I watched, he mentions warning system for disease outbreak and famine. Okay those things will probably be saved, but with more control regarding the flow of money.
But we all now know USAID was used for much more than health and food. It was being used to meddle in foreign elections, you know the stuff liberals whine about Russia doing. It was used to promote liberal ideologies.
So I'm not sure how liberals have convinced their base to defend the corruption. It's like they learned nothing from the elections. You all lost trying to defend open borders and funding illegals, and now you're doubling down defending taxpayer $ funding Trans Elmo to the middle east.
 

I realize what the reflexive response will be considering the interview took place on MSNBC. If you can get past that you can judge for yourself whether Andrew Natsios, the USAID administrator under George Bush, has something of value to say. You can skip to roughly the 2 minute mark of the interview.

I think he offers some valuable insight in to the work of the agency you don't hear about over the din of vitriol about Musk, his lack of authority to do what he's doing, and his obvious conflicts of interest.

DumbASS post.

The Bushs' are about as globalist / elitist as they come.
Shows how totally ignorant you are.
 

I realize what the reflexive response will be considering the interview took place on MSNBC. If you can get past that you can judge for yourself whether Andrew Natsios, the USAID administrator under George Bush, has something of value to say. You can skip to roughly the 2 minute mark of the interview.

I think he offers some valuable insight in to the work of the agency you don't hear about over the din of vitriol about Musk, his lack of authority to do what he's doing, and his obvious conflicts of interest.


I realize what the reflexive response will be considering the interview took place on MSNBC. If you can get past that you can judge for yourself whether Andrew Natsios, the USAID administrator under George Bush, has something of value to say. You can skip to roughly the 2 minute mark of the interview.
The republican gentlemen seem like he was being very honest. USA ID is controlled by the current president and is highly partisan due to that control. A new president comes in and operates USAID the way he sees fit. He has no obligation to operate USAID the same way his predecessor did. That’s what the man you told us to listen to said.

I guess the real difference with Trump is that, rather than have USAID move from a woke propaganda unit to a MAGA propaganda unit, he prefers taxpayers not be FORCED to spend on propaganda in the first place.

I think he offers some valuable insight in to the work of the agency you don't hear about over the din of vitriol about Musk, his lack of authority to do what he's doing, and his obvious conflicts of interest.
His authority comes from his position as a special government employee, and from the president and from Congress, who has a full committee to oversee DOGE.

If you disagree, cite the law that says that Musk cannot do what he is doing.

If you cannot cite the law, stop pretending that anything you don’t like is illegal.
 
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I watched, he mentions warning system for disease outbreak and famine. Okay those things will probably be saved, but with more control regarding the flow of money.
But we all now know USAID was used for much more than health and food. It was being used to meddle in foreign elections, you know the stuff liberals whine about Russia doing. It was used to promote liberal ideologies.
So I'm not sure how liberals have convinced their base to defend the corruption. It's like they learned nothing from the elections. You all lost trying to defend open borders and funding illegals, and now you're doubling down defending taxpayer $ funding Trans Elmo to the middle east.

While I'm on your team, I still think we know A LOT LESS than we think we do simply because the sources (all of them) are tainted.
 

I realize what the reflexive response will be considering the interview took place on MSNBC. If you can get past that you can judge for yourself whether Andrew Natsios, the USAID administrator under George Bush, has something of value to say. You can skip to roughly the 2 minute mark of the interview.

I think he offers some valuable insight in to the work of the agency you don't hear about over the din of vitriol about Musk, his lack of authority to do what he's doing, and his obvious conflicts of interest.
May have been doing that stuff under Bush, but now all it does is launder money pushing the nutbag tranny agenda.
 

I realize what the reflexive response will be considering the interview took place on MSNBC. If you can get past that you can judge for yourself whether Andrew Natsios, the USAID administrator under George Bush, has something of value to say. You can skip to roughly the 2 minute mark of the interview.

I think he offers some valuable insight in to the work of the agency you don't hear about over the din of vitriol about Musk, his lack of authority to do what he's doing, and his obvious conflicts of interest.
This is so dynamically simple.Merely consider the source.
Pin tit Leftist Witch Nicolle Wallace a classic example of
what constitutes a clueless dizzy dope hell bent on
making herself seem relevant.A virtual Never Trumper before
the term was ever exploited.
Her days may { should } be numbered.No matter how
Comcast can afford to lose viewers while still paying
their hosts.The worse example is 10 pm Host { Lawrence O'Donnell } who somewhat bragged { very cautiously } that he
had Biden's ear.A somewhat direct line to the Biden White House.
For what good it accomplished.
So let the drooling anti-American hothead { ask Pat Buchanan }
about Lawrence's hot temper.Showcased on - Hardball -
back in it's prime.
 
He's stopping the bleeding, one cut at a time. USAInternationalDevelopment is a trojan horse that has the opposite effect of the mythical event.
Just wondering why you think you know more about its work than the Repub are who ran it?
 
The republican gentlemen seem like he was being very honest. USA ID is controlled by the current president and is highly partisan due to that control. A new president comes in and operates USAID the way he sees fit. He has no obligation to operate USAID the same way his predecessor did. That’s what the man you told us to listen to said.

I guess the real difference with Trump is that, rather than have USAID move from a woke propaganda unit to a MAGA propaganda unit, he prefers taxpayers not be FORCED to spend on propaganda in the first place.


His authority comes from his position as a special government employee, and from the president and from Congress, who has a full committee to oversee DOGE.

If you disagree, cite the law that says that Musk cannot do what he is doing.

If you cannot cite the law, stop pretending that anything you don’t like is illegal.
What do you think about the specific examples he gave describing the irreplaceable benefits of USAID's work?
 
That's very unfortunate because Natsios sheds some light on the largely unappreciated value of USAID's work.
I'm sure usaid does do some good work, but there is also a lot of money being spent that shouldn't be.

My guess is doge is going to keep the good stuff and weed out the bad stuff. What's wrong with that?
 
I encourage you to put aside the narrative you have been fed, if only for 10 minutes, and listen to the interview. Don't be afraid to have your mind changed.
What is your opinion on the waste that is being uncovered? Should it still be operating in the dark out of taxpayer view?
 
What do you think about the specific examples he gave describing the irreplaceable benefits of USAID's work?
They aren't irreplaceable, for one. So the talking point is false from the start.
 
While I'm on your team, I still think we know A LOT LESS than we think we do simply because the sources (all of them) are tainted.
Hello ... Hello. Trump is a known braggart.Loves to boast.
Talk endlessly about his efforts.Or most anything he does.
But he does Reap results and in no time.
Trump did however get comic { Lifelong New Yorker }
Andrew " Dice " Clay ticked off a few years ago.Because
he { Trump } started acting like he tells better jokes than most
all comics { Dice included }.
I think We the People could tame Donald John Trump's
overly ambitious and cocksure view of himself.
But why bother.He's doing such a noble job of getting
what needs to be done ... Done.
If Trump wants to { In his old age } kinda cheat when no one is
watching when out golfing ...let it be.
Make a song out of.Like the Beatles hit.
 
Which programs should be cut from USAID?
Could it be the reason you favor what Musk is doing has to do with misinformation coming from the WH?

The White House’s wildly inaccurate claims about USAID spending

Eleven out of 12 claims about the agency’s work are misleading, wrong or lack context.

As the Trump administration this week dismantled the U.S. Agency for International Development, the primary vehicle for U.S. foreign aid, the White House issued a statement justifying its actions. Titled “At USAID, Waste and Abuse Runs Deep,” the news release claimed USAID “has been unaccountable to taxpayers as it funnels massive sums of money to the ridiculous — and, in many cases, malicious — pet projects of entrenched bureaucrats, with next-to-no oversight.”

The news release then listed 12 examples, plucked from the websites of right-wing media. But the numbers cited — as low as $32,000 — hardly justify the claim that these are “massive sums” of money. In fact, they are so low that some of the funds appear to have been awarded at the ambassador level, without Washington involvement. At least one dated from the first Trump administration, and some were actually State Department grants, not USAID.

According to surveys, many Americans have a misguided view of how much money the United States devotes to foreign aid. Polls consistently reveal that Americans believe that it is about 25 percent of the federal budget — and that a majority believe it should be more like 10 percent. In reality, foreign aid is less than 1 percent of the budget.

 

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