Watch Armed Citizen Use Birdshot In A Gunfight, Proving Why It's A Bad Idea For Self Defense

[DonGlock26]

I prefer 00 Buck myself. I've heard a good argument for #1 Buck. If I were really concerned about over penetration, then
I'd use #4 Buck but no smaller. I put a 18.5" barrel on my 590 Mossy for ease of use indoors.

 

[westwall]

High velocity 6's are devastating within 20 feet. They remove body parts. But get beyond that and yeah, their effectiveness degrades.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I prefer 00 Buck myself. I've heard a good argument for #1 Buck. If I were really concerned about over penetration, then
I'd use #4 Buck but no smaller. I put a 18.5" barrel on my 590 Mossy for ease of use indoors.

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Mossbergs are nice. I have one with both a short barrel and long barrel combo.

Yes bird shot is generally considered less lethal.

 

[DonGlock26]

 

[1srelluc]

I prefer federal premium tactical #4 Buck with a improved cylinder choke.....Devastating within 25 yards and not too shabby at 40.

I saw a guy killed with a load of #8 shot. He was shot at about two yards and the shot column at that distance acted like a slug. It eat a hole in the guy's chest and broke his spine but never exited, the shot cup was still inside of him....But yeah it sucks otherwise.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I prefer federal premium tactical #4 Buck with a improved cylinder choke.....Devastating within 25 yards and not too shabby at 40.

I saw a guy killed with a load of #8 shot. He was shot at about two yards and the shot column at that distance acted like a slug. It eat a hole in the guy's chest and broke his spine but never exited, the shot cup was still inside of him....But yeah it sucks otherwise.

OO buckshot, but shifted to 9mm gold dots or critical duty as got old and fat.

The daughter was a problem. She's this thin elf without strong fingers. She can't really rack a pistol slide or squeeze a revolver trigger. After some testing we have gone back to her first rifle. Its a youth sized 5lb semi .22lr rifle. Has a big bolt handle and moderate trigger. 25 round mag. Rack and magdump. Not a fan of .22 for defense but stingers meet FBI Penetration requirements and nothing says I love you like ten to the chest.

 

[1srelluc]

OO buckshot, but shifted to 9mm gold dots or critical duty as got old and fat.

The daughter was a problem. She's this thin elf without strong fingers. She can't really rack a pistol slide or squeeze a revolver trigger. After some testing we have gone back to her first rifle. Its a youth sized 5lb semi .22lr rifle. Has a big bolt handle and moderate trigger. 25 round mag. Rack and magdump. Not a fan of .22 for defense but stingers meet FBI Penetration requirements and nothing says I love you like ten to the chest.

They make small semi-auto handguns with "easy rack" slides. I don't know much about them other than the Beretta tip-ups.

Pistols you can actually rack with weak hands - The Avid Outdoorsman

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Ruger makes a poly frame DA only revolver with the best DA pull I've ever used.

If memory serves they make a .22 and .22 magnum version but a .38 with 147 gr wadcutters is a pussycat load and serves for SD.

 

[Chuz Life]

Back when I had some shotguns to toy around with (Ithica Deerslayers, Remington 870s, Mossberg 500, old Marlin) - I used to load my own shells for home defense - using fishing sinkers, guitar string, Steel Shot, etc.

Then I discovered some YouTube sources where they take it to a whole nuther level!

TAOFLEDERMAUS

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[DonGlock26]

Back when I had some shotguns to toy around with (Ithica Deerslayers, Remington 870s, Mossberg 500, old Marlin) - I used to load my own shells for home defense - using fishing sinkers, guitar string, Steel Shot, etc.

Then I discovered some YouTube sources where they take it to a whole nuther level!

TAOFLEDERMAUS

We create original videos, many of which are viewer-suggestions. From strange demonstrations of mercury, to shooting projectiles made by viewers and other YouTube channels. Instead of being passive observers, viewers can become part of the the video production process by suggesting...

www.youtube.com

I've heard of loading shotshells with dimes.





Keep the change MF'er!!

 

[DonGlock26]

They make small semi-auto handguns with "easy rack" slides. I don't know much about them other than the Beretta tip-ups.

Pistols you can actually rack with weak hands - The Avid Outdoorsman

Information is for educational purposes. Obey all local laws and follow established firearm safety rules. Do not attempt illegal...

theavidoutdoorsman.com

Ruger makes a poly frame DA only revolver with the best DA pull I've ever used.

If memory serves they make a .22 and .22 magnum version but a .38 with 147 gr wadcutters is a pussycat load and serves for SD.

I want one of those. I traded in my S&W 649 for a S&W 442 Airweight.

 

[1srelluc]

Back when I had some shotguns to toy around with (Ithica Deerslayers, Remington 870s, Mossberg 500, old Marlin) - I used to load my own shells for home defense - using fishing sinkers, guitar string, Steel Shot, etc.

Then I discovered some YouTube sources where they take it to a whole nuther level!

TAOFLEDERMAUS

We create original videos, many of which are viewer-suggestions. From strange demonstrations of mercury, to shooting projectiles made by viewers and other YouTube channels. Instead of being passive observers, viewers can become part of the the video production process by suggesting...

www.youtube.com

LOL.....Back when there were surplus flechetts available for cheap I used to load them into shotshells. I must have not done it right because they would keyhole much beyond 10 yards.

 

[DonGlock26]

LOL.....Back when there were surplus flechetts available for cheap I used to load them into shotshells. I must have not done it right because they would keyhole much beyond 10 yards.

The US Army experimented with flechettes during the Vietnam War. The combat shotgun was useful in jungle patrolling.

 

[Zincwarrior]

They make small semi-auto handguns with "easy rack" slides. I don't know much about them other than the Beretta tip-ups.

Pistols you can actually rack with weak hands - The Avid Outdoorsman

Information is for educational purposes. Obey all local laws and follow established firearm safety rules. Do not attempt illegal...

theavidoutdoorsman.com

Ruger makes a poly frame DA only revolver with the best DA pull I've ever used.

If memory serves they make a .22 and .22 magnum version but a .38 with 147 gr wadcutters is a pussycat load and serves for SD.

Yes the wife has a Beretta Storm with about the easiest slide I have ever seen and the rotating bolt halves felt recoil. Its slso why I got the FPS (9mm carbine). The rack is in the back on the stock and the wife can do it. Frankly I rack it like the world's biggest pistol.

 

[1srelluc]

Yes the wife has a Beretta Storm with about the easiest slide I have ever seen and the rotating bolt halves felt recoil. Its slso why I got the FPS (9mm carbine). The rack is in the back on the stock and the wife can do it. Frankly I rack it like the world's biggest pistol.

I have a Beretta CX4 Storm carbine....Nice companion carbine to a M92 pistol as it uses the same mags.

I found it hard to scope so found a intermediate eye relief scope that fits between the "humps" and that solved the problem of having to mount a scope too high.

 

[Zincwarrior]

https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-smith-wesson-m-p-fpc-a-low-profile-pcc/I have a Beretta CX4 Storm carbine....Nice companion carbine to a M92 pistol as it uses the same mags.

I found it hard to scope so found a intermediate eye relief scope that fits between the "humps" and that solved the problem of having to mount a scope too high.

Yes another light 5lber!

An Official Journal Of The NRA | The Smith & Wesson M&P FPC: A Low-Profile PCC

Folding to slightly longer than its 16" barrel, and carrying an impressive payload of 9 mm Luger ammunition, S&W’s FPC is an efficient, effective long gun for the format-conscious armed citizen.

www.americanrifleman.org

 

[DonGlock26]

I have a Beretta CX4 Storm carbine....Nice companion carbine to a M92 pistol as it uses the same mags.

I found it hard to scope so found a intermediate eye relief scope that fits between the "humps" and that solved the problem of having to mount a scope too high.

How's the trigger?

 

[1srelluc]

How's the trigger?

Really crappy till I worked on it....I got it down to 4.5# and left it well enough alone. Damn shame, a $500 carbine with a Hi-Point Carbine trigger. It shoots really good though.

 

[1srelluc]

Yes another light 5lber!

An Official Journal Of The NRA | The Smith & Wesson M&P FPC: A Low-Profile PCC

Folding to slightly longer than its 16" barrel, and carrying an impressive payload of 9 mm Luger ammunition, S&W’s FPC is an efficient, effective long gun for the format-conscious armed citizen.

www.americanrifleman.org

I had one of those and did not care for it. Ended-up trading it in on a Win. Model 92 in .32-20.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I had one of those and did not care for it. Ended-up trading it in on a Win. Model 92 in .32-20.

I hope it meets your needs.

 

[1srelluc]

I hope it meets your needs.

More like it met my wants.