Was Hitler right or left wing or neither?

[Edgetho]

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Obama, Hitler, And Exploding The Biggest Lie In History

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[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The "right left" spectrum isn't a spectrum at all. Who would ever describe something one-dimensional as a "spectrum."

If you want to peg him into one of the parties we currently have, which of course the partisan retards always want to, you have some things to consider:

- He was a nationalist. Closer to today's right.
- He was an authoritarian. Both parties have this on lock.
- His government was fascist, in that government told private industry what to do. Much closer to today's left.
- He was imperialist. Closer to today's right.
- He was a racial purist. Closer to today's far right.
- He was a collectivist. Closer to today's left.

So all of you with your red and blue team jerseys on: you both have a pretty equal claim to Hitler. Congratulations.

Precisely.

Collectivists are more Left wing how?

Explain why lumping groups together a Collectivist mind-set, is somehow Left wing, rather than Right-Wing?

This is prejudices, and how is prejudices Left-Wing?

It is Right-Wing, and Socially Conservative to lump Gays together, Blacks together, Women together etc.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

My conclusion from reading a bunch of posts here, is that Americans are very dumb, especially Republicans.

A.) Capitalism has nothing to do with the classical definition of Right - Left politics.

B.) If Capitalism was a Right wing characteristic, it's far from being the only characteristic, as many here ignore.

C.) There's still Authoritarian, Hierarchy, Traditional Values, Clerical Values, what Nazis did fits this bill, they were for Authoritarianism, they were for Hierarchy, Racial hierarchy, Social Darwinism, Eugenics, they were for Traditional Values, blood, and soil, anti-Abortion, anti-Gay, they did work with Clerical values, they were anti-Atheist, and did work with some of the Christian clerics.

D.) Capitalism is probably more of a Left wing characteristic, it's anti-Authoritarianism, and Authoritarianism is Right-Wing.

Especially considering the Capitalists push for Liberalism, to hire Illegal immigrants, to outsource jobs, to sell drugs, to sell porn to sell abortions, to sell gangster rap music, to sell Hollywood selling degenerate smut, and shoot em' up films with Liberal agendas, Media pushing for Liberalism, Facebook, Instagram, and Youtube shutting down Conservatives.

That is Capitalism, and because Nazis regulated that, for more Nationalistic, and Socially Conservative values, that makes them Leftists?
Far form the truth.

My conclusion is that.

A.) Americans don't understand political spectrum I.E what a Right-Wing value even is.

B.) Americans don't understand political dynamics I.E how Capitalism causes Liberal values.

I could go on, and on, and on.

Republicans not understanding that social programs aren't necessarily Socialism.

Republicans not understanding that the Founding Father's weren't Capitalists.

Republicans not understanding they are by classical definitions Far-Left Liberals.

I'm not too thrilled with America's stupid masses.

 

[Some Guy]

The "right left" spectrum isn't a spectrum at all. Who would ever describe something one-dimensional as a "spectrum."

If you want to peg him into one of the parties we currently have, which of course the partisan retards always want to, you have some things to consider:

- He was a nationalist. Closer to today's right.
- He was an authoritarian. Both parties have this on lock.
- His government was fascist, in that government told private industry what to do. Much closer to today's left.
- He was imperialist. Closer to today's right.
- He was a racial purist. Closer to today's far right.
- He was a collectivist. Closer to today's left.

So all of you with your red and blue team jerseys on: you both have a pretty equal claim to Hitler. Congratulations.

Precisely.

Collectivists are more Left wing how?

Explain why lumping groups together a Collectivist mind-set, is somehow Left wing, rather than Right-Wing?

This is prejudices, and how is prejudices Left-Wing?

It is Right-Wing, and Socially Conservative to lump Gays together, Blacks together, Women together etc.

"Closer" to today's left. Today's left is all about collectivism with very little concern with individual rights. They're the ones proudly labeling themselves by race, gender, sexual orientation and ethnicity and saying that these groups need "social" justice. This shouldn't be shocking in the slightest.

 

[g5000]

Was Hitler right or left wing or neither?

You shouldn't even have to ask.

Only retards claim Hitler was left wing.

"Because socialism!"

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Was Hitler right or left wing or neither?

You shouldn't even have to ask.

Only retards claim Hitler was left wing.

"Because socialism!"

And retards label him right wing.
Hitler was both, and neither.

 

[Some Guy]

My conclusion from reading a bunch of posts here, is that Americans are very dumb, especially Republicans.

A.) Capitalism has nothing to do with the classical definition of Right - Left politics.

B.) If Capitalism was a Right wing characteristic, it's far from being the only characteristic, as many here ignore.

C.) There's still Authoritarian, Hierarchy, Traditional Values, Clerical Values, what Nazis did fits this bill, they were for Authoritarianism, they were for Hierarchy, Racial hierarchy, Social Darwinism, Eugenics, they were for Traditional Values, blood, and soil, anti-Abortion, anti-Gay, they did work with Clerical values, they were anti-Atheist, and did work with some of the Christian clerics.

D.) Capitalism is probably more of a Left wing characteristic, it's anti-Authoritarianism, and Authoritarianism is Right-Wing.

Especially considering the Capitalists push for Liberalism, to hire Illegal immigrants, to outsource jobs, to sell drugs, to sell porn to sell abortions, to sell gangster rap music, to sell Hollywood selling degenerate smut, and shoot em' up films with Liberal agendas, Media pushing for Liberalism, Facebook, Instagram, and Youtube shutting down Conservatives.

That is Capitalism, and because Nazis regulated that, for more Nationalistic, and Socially Conservative values, that makes them Leftists?
Far form the truth.

My conclusion is that.

A.) Americans don't understand political spectrum I.E what a Right-Wing value even is.

B.) Americans don't understand political dynamics I.E how Capitalism causes Liberal values.

I could go on, and on, and on.

Republicans not understanding that social programs aren't necessarily Socialism.

Republicans not understanding that the Founding Father's weren't Capitalists.

Republicans not understanding they are by classical definitions Far-Left Liberals.

I'm not too thrilled with America's stupid masses.

This post perfectly illustrates how woefully under equipped a single axis political spectrum is. Anyone can take what they don't like and call it whatever wing they're not on.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The "right left" spectrum isn't a spectrum at all. Who would ever describe something one-dimensional as a "spectrum."

If you want to peg him into one of the parties we currently have, which of course the partisan retards always want to, you have some things to consider:

- He was a nationalist. Closer to today's right.
- He was an authoritarian. Both parties have this on lock.
- His government was fascist, in that government told private industry what to do. Much closer to today's left.
- He was imperialist. Closer to today's right.
- He was a racial purist. Closer to today's far right.
- He was a collectivist. Closer to today's left.

So all of you with your red and blue team jerseys on: you both have a pretty equal claim to Hitler. Congratulations.

Precisely.

Collectivists are more Left wing how?

Explain why lumping groups together a Collectivist mind-set, is somehow Left wing, rather than Right-Wing?

This is prejudices, and how is prejudices Left-Wing?

It is Right-Wing, and Socially Conservative to lump Gays together, Blacks together, Women together etc.

"Closer" to today's left. Today's left is all about collectivism with very little concern with individual rights. They're the ones proudly labeling themselves by race, gender, sexual orientation and ethnicity and saying that these groups need "social" justice. This shouldn't be shocking in the slightest.

You're making assumptions that, American Republicans are the only Right Wingers, in fact you're making assumptions that American Republicans are even Right-Wingers.

Poland's more Right-Wing than the U.S.A, and they're a lot more ethno-centric, and collectivist (Prejudiced) on groups than the U.S.A Democrats, or Republicans.

Yes, absolutely Poland has strict anti-abortion laws, Poland has very strict immigration laws, no Gay marriage.

All classical Right-Wing values, which the U.S.A Democrats, and Republicans don't even fight on anymore.

Note that we still have roughly 10 million illegals, we still have loose abortion laws, we still have Gay marriage, not a whole lot has really changed all too much with Trump.

 

[Some Guy]

The "right left" spectrum isn't a spectrum at all. Who would ever describe something one-dimensional as a "spectrum."

If you want to peg him into one of the parties we currently have, which of course the partisan retards always want to, you have some things to consider:

- He was a nationalist. Closer to today's right.
- He was an authoritarian. Both parties have this on lock.
- His government was fascist, in that government told private industry what to do. Much closer to today's left.
- He was imperialist. Closer to today's right.
- He was a racial purist. Closer to today's far right.
- He was a collectivist. Closer to today's left.

So all of you with your red and blue team jerseys on: you both have a pretty equal claim to Hitler. Congratulations.

Precisely.

Collectivists are more Left wing how?

Explain why lumping groups together a Collectivist mind-set, is somehow Left wing, rather than Right-Wing?

This is prejudices, and how is prejudices Left-Wing?

It is Right-Wing, and Socially Conservative to lump Gays together, Blacks together, Women together etc.

"Closer" to today's left. Today's left is all about collectivism with very little concern with individual rights. They're the ones proudly labeling themselves by race, gender, sexual orientation and ethnicity and saying that these groups need "social" justice. This shouldn't be shocking in the slightest.

You're making assumptions that, American Republicans are the only Right Wingers, in fact you're making assumptions that American Republicans are even Right-Wingers.

Poland's more Right-Wing than the U.S.A, and they're a lot more ethno-centric, and collectivist (Prejudiced) on groups than the U.S.A Democrats, or Republicans.

Yes, absolutely Poland has strict anti-abortion laws, Poland has very strict immigration laws, no Gay marriage.

All classical Right-Wing values, which the U.S.A Democrats, and Republicans don't even fight on anymore.

Note that we still have roughly 10 million illegals, we still have loose abortion laws, we still have Gay marriage, not a whole lot has really changed all too much with Trump.

And i was comparing against what we have in America. Poland's idea of right-wing if irrelevant to this conversation.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

My conclusion from reading a bunch of posts here, is that Americans are very dumb, especially Republicans.

A.) Capitalism has nothing to do with the classical definition of Right - Left politics.

B.) If Capitalism was a Right wing characteristic, it's far from being the only characteristic, as many here ignore.

C.) There's still Authoritarian, Hierarchy, Traditional Values, Clerical Values, what Nazis did fits this bill, they were for Authoritarianism, they were for Hierarchy, Racial hierarchy, Social Darwinism, Eugenics, they were for Traditional Values, blood, and soil, anti-Abortion, anti-Gay, they did work with Clerical values, they were anti-Atheist, and did work with some of the Christian clerics.

D.) Capitalism is probably more of a Left wing characteristic, it's anti-Authoritarianism, and Authoritarianism is Right-Wing.

Especially considering the Capitalists push for Liberalism, to hire Illegal immigrants, to outsource jobs, to sell drugs, to sell porn to sell abortions, to sell gangster rap music, to sell Hollywood selling degenerate smut, and shoot em' up films with Liberal agendas, Media pushing for Liberalism, Facebook, Instagram, and Youtube shutting down Conservatives.

That is Capitalism, and because Nazis regulated that, for more Nationalistic, and Socially Conservative values, that makes them Leftists?
Far form the truth.

My conclusion is that.

A.) Americans don't understand political spectrum I.E what a Right-Wing value even is.

B.) Americans don't understand political dynamics I.E how Capitalism causes Liberal values.

I could go on, and on, and on.

Republicans not understanding that social programs aren't necessarily Socialism.

Republicans not understanding that the Founding Father's weren't Capitalists.

Republicans not understanding they are by classical definitions Far-Left Liberals.

I'm not too thrilled with America's stupid masses.

This post perfectly illustrates how woefully under equipped a single axis political spectrum is. Anyone can take what they don't like and call it whatever wing they're not on.

So, you're admitting Republicans have falsely called themselves the Right-Wing?

 

[Votto]

I suppose we might need to define what it means to be right or left wing? Would anyone like to take a crack at this?

The left wants to change society, the right wants to keep it the same as it was.

Close.

The Left wants to change society, conservatives just want to be left alone and live their lives how they see fit so long as they are not hurting other people.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The "right left" spectrum isn't a spectrum at all. Who would ever describe something one-dimensional as a "spectrum."

If you want to peg him into one of the parties we currently have, which of course the partisan retards always want to, you have some things to consider:

- He was a nationalist. Closer to today's right.
- He was an authoritarian. Both parties have this on lock.
- His government was fascist, in that government told private industry what to do. Much closer to today's left.
- He was imperialist. Closer to today's right.
- He was a racial purist. Closer to today's far right.
- He was a collectivist. Closer to today's left.

So all of you with your red and blue team jerseys on: you both have a pretty equal claim to Hitler. Congratulations.

Precisely.

Collectivists are more Left wing how?

Explain why lumping groups together a Collectivist mind-set, is somehow Left wing, rather than Right-Wing?

This is prejudices, and how is prejudices Left-Wing?

It is Right-Wing, and Socially Conservative to lump Gays together, Blacks together, Women together etc.

"Closer" to today's left. Today's left is all about collectivism with very little concern with individual rights. They're the ones proudly labeling themselves by race, gender, sexual orientation and ethnicity and saying that these groups need "social" justice. This shouldn't be shocking in the slightest.

You're making assumptions that, American Republicans are the only Right Wingers, in fact you're making assumptions that American Republicans are even Right-Wingers.

Poland's more Right-Wing than the U.S.A, and they're a lot more ethno-centric, and collectivist (Prejudiced) on groups than the U.S.A Democrats, or Republicans.

Yes, absolutely Poland has strict anti-abortion laws, Poland has very strict immigration laws, no Gay marriage.

All classical Right-Wing values, which the U.S.A Democrats, and Republicans don't even fight on anymore.

Note that we still have roughly 10 million illegals, we still have loose abortion laws, we still have Gay marriage, not a whole lot has really changed all too much with Trump.

And i was comparing against what we have in America. Poland's idea of right-wing if irrelevant to this conversation.

Racism is Right-Wing, it is hierarchy, and it is authoritarian in practice, heck it could be considered a natural value, or traditional value, considering it was found to be prevalent in everybody's ethnic's, until some very dumb Individualist Liberal (Western Europeans) decided otherwise.

Since Racism is collectivist, then absolutely collectivism is associated more with the right-wing.

 

[Papageorgio]

Hitler was pure evil, his politics didn't matter to him, he wanted total control of the world for 1000 years. He was a nut and he did whatever he wanted to do to gain power, he was neither right or left, he used politics to gain power and nothing else mattered. He political belief was Hitler first the hell with the rest of you.

 

[Some Guy]

My conclusion from reading a bunch of posts here, is that Americans are very dumb, especially Republicans.

A.) Capitalism has nothing to do with the classical definition of Right - Left politics.

B.) If Capitalism was a Right wing characteristic, it's far from being the only characteristic, as many here ignore.

C.) There's still Authoritarian, Hierarchy, Traditional Values, Clerical Values, what Nazis did fits this bill, they were for Authoritarianism, they were for Hierarchy, Racial hierarchy, Social Darwinism, Eugenics, they were for Traditional Values, blood, and soil, anti-Abortion, anti-Gay, they did work with Clerical values, they were anti-Atheist, and did work with some of the Christian clerics.

D.) Capitalism is probably more of a Left wing characteristic, it's anti-Authoritarianism, and Authoritarianism is Right-Wing.

Especially considering the Capitalists push for Liberalism, to hire Illegal immigrants, to outsource jobs, to sell drugs, to sell porn to sell abortions, to sell gangster rap music, to sell Hollywood selling degenerate smut, and shoot em' up films with Liberal agendas, Media pushing for Liberalism, Facebook, Instagram, and Youtube shutting down Conservatives.

That is Capitalism, and because Nazis regulated that, for more Nationalistic, and Socially Conservative values, that makes them Leftists?
Far form the truth.

My conclusion is that.

A.) Americans don't understand political spectrum I.E what a Right-Wing value even is.

B.) Americans don't understand political dynamics I.E how Capitalism causes Liberal values.

I could go on, and on, and on.

Republicans not understanding that social programs aren't necessarily Socialism.

Republicans not understanding that the Founding Father's weren't Capitalists.

Republicans not understanding they are by classical definitions Far-Left Liberals.

I'm not too thrilled with America's stupid masses.

This post perfectly illustrates how woefully under equipped a single axis political spectrum is. Anyone can take what they don't like and call it whatever wing they're not on.

So, you're admitting Republicans have falsely called themselves the Right-Wing?

You're not wholly wrong, but you're not wholly right either. The single axis "right vs. left" doesn't explain why republicans favor capitalism, which is based on individual rights, but are happy to deny individual rights when it comes to social stuff, and vice versa for the democrats.

The spectrum needs to include an axis for collectivist vs. individualist and/or authoritarian vs. libertarian. They're sorta the same. Then you could somewhat adequately peg where the current republican and democrat parties fall.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I suppose we might need to define what it means to be right or left wing? Would anyone like to take a crack at this?

The left wants to change society, the right wants to keep it the same as it was.

Close.

The Left wants to change society, conservatives just want to be left alone and live their lives how they see fit so long as they are not hurting other people.

So, why is Authoritarianism a Right-Wing characteristic by definition?

 

[g5000]

It's a simple fact Hitler was right wing. Anyone who says different has been drinking piss and is completely ignorant of actual history.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

My conclusion from reading a bunch of posts here, is that Americans are very dumb, especially Republicans.

A.) Capitalism has nothing to do with the classical definition of Right - Left politics.

B.) If Capitalism was a Right wing characteristic, it's far from being the only characteristic, as many here ignore.

C.) There's still Authoritarian, Hierarchy, Traditional Values, Clerical Values, what Nazis did fits this bill, they were for Authoritarianism, they were for Hierarchy, Racial hierarchy, Social Darwinism, Eugenics, they were for Traditional Values, blood, and soil, anti-Abortion, anti-Gay, they did work with Clerical values, they were anti-Atheist, and did work with some of the Christian clerics.

D.) Capitalism is probably more of a Left wing characteristic, it's anti-Authoritarianism, and Authoritarianism is Right-Wing.

Especially considering the Capitalists push for Liberalism, to hire Illegal immigrants, to outsource jobs, to sell drugs, to sell porn to sell abortions, to sell gangster rap music, to sell Hollywood selling degenerate smut, and shoot em' up films with Liberal agendas, Media pushing for Liberalism, Facebook, Instagram, and Youtube shutting down Conservatives.

That is Capitalism, and because Nazis regulated that, for more Nationalistic, and Socially Conservative values, that makes them Leftists?
Far form the truth.

My conclusion is that.

A.) Americans don't understand political spectrum I.E what a Right-Wing value even is.

B.) Americans don't understand political dynamics I.E how Capitalism causes Liberal values.

I could go on, and on, and on.

Republicans not understanding that social programs aren't necessarily Socialism.

Republicans not understanding that the Founding Father's weren't Capitalists.

Republicans not understanding they are by classical definitions Far-Left Liberals.

I'm not too thrilled with America's stupid masses.

This post perfectly illustrates how woefully under equipped a single axis political spectrum is. Anyone can take what they don't like and call it whatever wing they're not on.

So, you're admitting Republicans have falsely called themselves the Right-Wing?

You're not wholly wrong, but you're not wholly right either. The single axis "right vs. left" doesn't explain why republicans favor capitalism, which is based on individual rights, but are happy to deny individual rights when it comes to social stuff, and vice versa for the democrats.

The spectrum needs to include an axis for collectivist vs. individualist and/or authoritarian vs. libertarian. They're sorta the same. Then you could somewhat adequately peg where the current republican and democrat parties fall.

Because the U.S.A is divided into masculine British Individualists who care more about cutting taxes, having guns, and less about helping the poor, or Blacks, and feminine British Individualists who care more about helping the poor, or Blacks, and less about cutting taxes, and having guns.

To me there's hardly a difference, they are of the same stock.

If you look else where, Collectivists tend to be socially Right to that of America.

People complain about Venezuela here commonly, but they don't have Gay marriage, they don't have Abortion, they are in fact a Collectivist society, with Socially Conservative, and Authoritarian (Right-Wing Values)

 

[The Original Tree]

Easy:

He was a Socialist so he was a Left Winger.

 

[Votto]

I suppose we might need to define what it means to be right or left wing? Would anyone like to take a crack at this?

The left wants to change society, the right wants to keep it the same as it was.

Close.

The Left wants to change society, conservatives just want to be left alone and live their lives how they see fit so long as they are not hurting other people.

So, why is Authoritarianism a Right-Wing characteristic by definition?

Because you need to explain the Nazi regime who is considered universally to be evil.

Just call them right wing because they are authoritarian and racist. Otherwise, it demonizes the types of governments Left wingers support.

Funny thing, conservatives are for a limited government, not an authoritarian government.

 

[Some Guy]

My conclusion from reading a bunch of posts here, is that Americans are very dumb, especially Republicans.

A.) Capitalism has nothing to do with the classical definition of Right - Left politics.

B.) If Capitalism was a Right wing characteristic, it's far from being the only characteristic, as many here ignore.

C.) There's still Authoritarian, Hierarchy, Traditional Values, Clerical Values, what Nazis did fits this bill, they were for Authoritarianism, they were for Hierarchy, Racial hierarchy, Social Darwinism, Eugenics, they were for Traditional Values, blood, and soil, anti-Abortion, anti-Gay, they did work with Clerical values, they were anti-Atheist, and did work with some of the Christian clerics.

D.) Capitalism is probably more of a Left wing characteristic, it's anti-Authoritarianism, and Authoritarianism is Right-Wing.

Especially considering the Capitalists push for Liberalism, to hire Illegal immigrants, to outsource jobs, to sell drugs, to sell porn to sell abortions, to sell gangster rap music, to sell Hollywood selling degenerate smut, and shoot em' up films with Liberal agendas, Media pushing for Liberalism, Facebook, Instagram, and Youtube shutting down Conservatives.

That is Capitalism, and because Nazis regulated that, for more Nationalistic, and Socially Conservative values, that makes them Leftists?
Far form the truth.

My conclusion is that.

A.) Americans don't understand political spectrum I.E what a Right-Wing value even is.

B.) Americans don't understand political dynamics I.E how Capitalism causes Liberal values.

I could go on, and on, and on.

Republicans not understanding that social programs aren't necessarily Socialism.

Republicans not understanding that the Founding Father's weren't Capitalists.

Republicans not understanding they are by classical definitions Far-Left Liberals.

I'm not too thrilled with America's stupid masses.

This post perfectly illustrates how woefully under equipped a single axis political spectrum is. Anyone can take what they don't like and call it whatever wing they're not on.

So, you're admitting Republicans have falsely called themselves the Right-Wing?

You're not wholly wrong, but you're not wholly right either. The single axis "right vs. left" doesn't explain why republicans favor capitalism, which is based on individual rights, but are happy to deny individual rights when it comes to social stuff, and vice versa for the democrats.

The spectrum needs to include an axis for collectivist vs. individualist and/or authoritarian vs. libertarian. They're sorta the same. Then you could somewhat adequately peg where the current republican and democrat parties fall.

Because the U.S.A is divided into masculine British Individualists who care more about cutting taxes, having guns, and less about helping the poor, or Blacks, and feminine British Individualists who care more about helping the poor, or Blacks, and less about cutting taxes, and having guns.

To me there's hardly a difference, they are of the same stock.

If you look else where, Collectivists tend to be socially Right to that of America.

People complain about Venezuela here commonly, but they don't have Gay marriage, they don't have Abortion, they are in fact a Collectivist society, with Socially Conservative, and Authoritarian (Right-Wing Values)

That's just my point. You're using a different scale than other people. You're equating "right wing" with authoritarianism and "left wing" with libertarianism. I guess that's one way of looking at it, but it's still woefully inadequate for explaining where someone really lies politically.

Both the democrats and republicans are very authoritarian in that they both want to use the government to force their views and way of life onto others who don't agree with it. According to your definition, that's "right wing." In other ways, republicans and democrats want the government to stay out of people's lives, which is "left-wing." It only describes one aspect.