Was Greg Maddux the most over achieving pitcher in history?

[shockedcanadian]

He never had great stuff, nothing overpowering. He could nail his spot and his mental strategy within the game and meta-game was basically unrivaled as pitchers go.

It's amazing that those Braves teams in the 1990s with all of their success and the most dominant pitching staff for years only won a single WS in the 1990s.

Here are his career stats, for a guy who topped out in the low 90s.

 

[The Duke]

Johnny VanDermeer.

 

[Oddball]

He was called "The Professor" for a reason.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yes. But damn was I lucky that he played for my Braves.

There was a quote I heard him come up with:

"Hitters don't hit home runs, pitchers throw them."

I admire the f**k out of that quote. He was the ultimate finesse pitcher.

 

[MarathonMike]

He never had great stuff, nothing overpowering. He could nail his spot and his mental strategy within the game and meta-game was basically unrivaled as pitchers go.

It's amazing that those Braves teams in the 1990s with all of their success and the most dominant pitching staff for years only won a single WS in the 1990s.

Here are his career stats, for a guy who topped out in the low 90s.

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Yep what a staff, Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Notable Achievements​

• 8-time NL All-Star (1988, 1992, 1994-1998 & 2000)
• 4-time NL Cy Young Award Winner (1992-1995)
• 18-time NL Gold Glove Winner (1990-2002 & 2004-2008)
• 4-time NL ERA Leader (1993-1995 & 1998)
• 3-time NL Wins Leader (1992, 1994 & 1995)
• 2-time NL Winning Percentage Leader (1995 & 1997)
• 5-time NL Innings Pitched Leader (1991-1995)
• 3-time NL Complete Games Leader (1993-1995)
• 5-time NL Shutouts Leader (1994, 1995, 1998, 2000 & 2001)
• 15 Wins Seasons: 18 (1988-2004 & 2006)
• 20 Wins Seasons: 2 (1992 & 1993)
• 200 Innings Pitched Seasons: 18 (1988-2001 & 2003-2006)
• 200 Strikeouts Seasons: 1 (1998)
• Won a World Series with the Atlanta Braves in 1995
• Baseball Hall of Fame: Class of 2014

• Records Held​

  • Seasons of 15 or more wins, 18 (tied)
  • Putouts, pitcher, career, 546
  • Double plays, pitcher, career, 98
  • Gold Gloves, career, 18

 

[tyroneweaver]

ya I will say he was over rated

I seen games where if the ball was 6 inches off the plate the umpires would give him a strike
Then when they got in the World Series those umpires wouldn't give that to him. That's why they only won one pennant.