Voting Requirements

[Bush92]

Not wanting to step on states rights with federal intervention, but what should the requirements be for voting rights in the United States? In ancient Greece only men who had served in the military could vote.I like the idea of military service, but doubt its feasible. My bar would be that if you A.) Paid taxes B.) Were not a convicted felon C.) Not on public aid of any kind (that makes YOU a political issue and public liability, therefore not an eligible voter).
D.) Legal residence of the United States for at least 5 years. E.) Any veteran or active duty military member with a Combat Action Ribbon gets two ballots at the polls. They have earned it. Simple courtesy. F.) At least 24 years old.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Not wanting to step on states rights with federal intervention, but what should the requirements be for voting rights in the United States? In ancient Greece only men who had served in the military could vote.I like the idea of military service, but doubt its feasible. My bar would be that if you A.) Paid taxes B.) Were not a convicted felon C.) Not on public aid of any kind (that makes YOU a political issue and public liability, therefore not an eligible voter).
D.) Legal residence of the United States for at least 5 years. E.) Any veteran or active duty military member with a Combat Action Ribbon gets two ballots at the polls. They have earned it. Simple courtesy. F.) At least 24 years old.

Let's keep it simple, you're 18 or older and an American citizen.

 

[Nyvin]

Not wanting to step on states rights with federal intervention, but what should the requirements be for voting rights in the United States? In ancient Greece only men who had served in the military could vote.I like the idea of military service, but doubt its feasible. My bar would be that if you A.) Paid taxes B.) Were not a convicted felon C.) Not on public aid of any kind (that makes YOU a political issue and public liability, therefore not an eligible voter).
D.) Legal residence of the United States for at least 5 years. E.) Any veteran or active duty military member with a Combat Action Ribbon gets two ballots at the polls. They have earned it. Simple courtesy. F.) At least 24 years old.

Why 24 years old? There are 23 year olds that are totally independent and deserve to have their voices heard, why do you want to silence them?

And 2 ballots for Combat Vets is silly, no one in the world does something like that and it's never been done in history. One person = one vote. That's the foundation of the system.

Does "public aid" include people driving on highways?

 

[rightwinger]

All citizens deserve a right to vote. The canditate will represent ALL people in his district and each deserves an equal vote

 

[Nyvin]

The OP really loves the idea of making people second class citizens.

 

[Big Black Dog]

Voting requirements. Yep. I believe there should be strict voting requirements. You should be an American citizen. You should be 18 years old. You should have a government issued photo ID. Seems simple enough to me.

 

[rightwinger]

The OP really loves the idea of making people second class citizens.

It comes down to those he considers to be "Real Americans" and those he considers to be lesser citizens

 

[JakeStarkey]

Not wanting to step on states rights with federal intervention, but what should the requirements be for voting rights in the United States? In ancient Greece only men who had served in the military could vote.I like the idea of military service, but doubt its feasible. My bar would be that if you A.) Paid taxes B.) Were not a convicted felon C.) Not on public aid of any kind (that makes YOU a political issue and public liability, therefore not an eligible voter).
D.) Legal residence of the United States for at least 5 years. E.) Any veteran or active duty military member with a Combat Action Ribbon gets two ballots at the polls. They have earned it. Simple courtesy. F.) At least 24 years old.

Rewrite the constitution then and get it ratified.

 

[Zmrzlina]

We don't want those pesky poors voting.

 

[g5000]

The OP really loves the idea of making people second class citizens.

Exactly.

 

[rightwinger]

What is it with Conservatves and their blocking of voting rights?

They claim to love the Constitution but pee all over it

 

[nodoginnafight]

Old white men believe that only old white men (and those who agree with them) are "real" Americans and are the only ones who deserve "real" rights and freedoms.

This notion of an underclass of people who are unworthy of full citizenship is why these folks get called Nazi's all the time.

 

[martybegan]

This about sums it up.

When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.

When you get to the point where people depend on the government not just for protection and as an arbiter for disputes, but for their very livelyhood, you get voters who vote to maintain in power whoever will pay them off.

 

[rightwinger]

This about sums it up.

When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.

When you get to the point where people depend on the government not just for protection and as an arbiter for disputes, but for their very livelyhood, you get voters who vote to maintain in power whoever will pay them off.

Like those that promise tax cuts?

 

[g5000]

This about sums it up.

When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.

When you get to the point where people depend on the government not just for protection and as an arbiter for disputes, but for their very livelyhood, you get voters who vote to maintain in power whoever will pay them off.

Don't you DARE take away my personal and business tax cuts, deduction, credits, subsidies, and exemptions!

We will vote out anyone who takes away our $1.2 trillion of annual gifts from the goverenment, buddy!


Oh, wait.


Were you talking about the darkies who get food stamps and Obamaphones?


Never mind!

 

[martybegan]

This about sums it up.

When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.

When you get to the point where people depend on the government not just for protection and as an arbiter for disputes, but for their very livelyhood, you get voters who vote to maintain in power whoever will pay them off.

Like those that promise tax cuts?

that operates under the assumption that person's money belongs to the government, and it graciously allows you to keep part of it.

 

[martybegan]

This about sums it up.

When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.

When you get to the point where people depend on the government not just for protection and as an arbiter for disputes, but for their very livelyhood, you get voters who vote to maintain in power whoever will pay them off.

Don't you DARE take away my personal and business tax cuts, deduction, credits, subsidies, and exemptions!

We will vote out anyone who takes away our $1.2 trillion of annual gifts from the goverenment, buddy!


Oh, wait.


Were you talking about the darkies who get food stamps and Obamaphones?


Never mind!

again, unless the government is directly paying someone, and not for a good or service, it is not a subsidy, it is a tax write off/deduction. As above, your case relies on the assumption that everyone's money and property belong to the government, and they graciously allow you to keep some of it.

Tax deductions are not handouts.

 

[rightwinger]

This about sums it up.



When you get to the point where people depend on the government not just for protection and as an arbiter for disputes, but for their very livelyhood, you get voters who vote to maintain in power whoever will pay them off.

Like those that promise tax cuts?

that operates under the assumption that person's money belongs to the government, and it graciously allows you to keep part of it.

Actually, a person is expected to contribute to your society.

As such, tax cuts are "free stuff" especially when others don't receive them

 

[martybegan]

Like those that promise tax cuts?

that operates under the assumption that person's money belongs to the government, and it graciously allows you to keep part of it.

Actually, a person is expected to contribute to your society.

As such, tax cuts are "free stuff" especially when others don't receive them

Oil companies contribute to society, and so do we considering the taxes on the gasoline is 5-10 times the profit an oil company makes on each gallon.

And even with their deductions they pay out tons in taxes, corporate, drill fees, the income taxes on the employees, the FICA taxes they cannot deduct avoid.

 

[g5000]

Tax deductions are not handouts.

They most certainly are. Every tax expenditure has to be paid for by others through higher tax rates, or by borrowing.

That you do not know or understand this is astonishing.