Virginia Giuffre (1983-2025) was 17 when she first met epstein!!!

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Not defending epstein but it's a shame the media has to lie about him and his "victims". Giuffre was a young lady, not a kid, when she hooked up with him. She was a prostitute who wanted to make money.

In mid-2000, Giuffre met Ghislaine Maxwell when working as a spa attendant at Donald Trump's private Mar-a-Lago club while reading a book about massage therapy. Maxwell, a British socialite and daughter of the late media tycoon Robert Maxwell, approached Giuffre, noted the book that she was reading, inquired about her interest in massage, and offered her a potential job working for Epstein as a traveling masseuse with the assurance that no experience was necessary When Giuffre arrived at Epstein's Palm Beach home, she says he was naked lying down and Maxwell told her how to massage him.
 
Not defending epstein but it's a shame the media has to lie about him and his "victims". Giuffre was a young lady, not a kid, when she hooked up with him. She was a prostitute who wanted to make money.


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You are absolutely disgusting.

Anyone that has ever had a seventeen year old sister/daughter/niece can see how loathsome this post is.
 
Hey stupid. 17 ain't not no kid. Not no way. THINK

The press makes it sound like little ginny was 9.
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There is also the power aspect of this -- very rich and predatory older men using their positions and wealth to groom high school age MINORS for sex.

There is a reason we don't tolerate sex between psychiatrists and psychologists, and professors and their clients or students

This forum has a bizarre rule that we cannot call our those justifying sexual predators, so I won't. But I hope everyone takes note of those who are justifying Epstein
 
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iu


You are absolutely disgusting.

Anyone that has ever had a seventeen year old sister/daughter/niece can see how loathsome this post is.
Well to be fair....





Some states have close-in-age exemptions, also known as Romeo and Juliet laws. These laws allow minors who are below the age of consent to engage in sexual activity with partners who are within a certain age range. For example, a state may allow a 17-year-old to consent to sex with a 19-year-old, even though 18 is the age of consent. Each state’s laws vary in terms of the allowed age difference and ages of consent.
 
Well to be fair....





Some states have close-in-age exemptions, also known as Romeo and Juliet laws. These laws allow minors who are below the age of consent to engage in sexual activity with partners who are within a certain age range. For example, a state may allow a 17-year-old to consent to sex with a 19-year-old, even though 18 is the age of consent. Each state’s laws vary in terms of the allowed age difference and ages of consent.

 
Why did Prince Andrew stop grooming the Corgi’s?
He found out they were 18 in dog years.

They say Prince Andrew can get off on a legal technicality!
Gosh, there is nothing this guy doesn’t find arousing.

Why all the fuss about Prince Andrew?
It seems to be a pretty minor affair.

In Britain, when you turn 100, you get a letter from the King.
And when you turn 16, you get a text from Prince Andrew.

Prince Andrew comes home to Buckingham Palace and finds his girlfriend crying and packing all her stuff.
When he asks her what’s wrong, she sobs that she is leaving him because people are calling him pedophile.
With a look of disbelief, he steps back and says, “Whoa! That’s a big word for a 10-year-old.”
 
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There is also the power aspect of this -- very rich and predatory older men using their positions and wealth to groom high school age MINORS for sex.

There is a reason we don't tolerate sex between psychiatrists and psychologists, and professors and their clients or students

This forum has a bizarre rule that we cannot call our those justifying sexual predators, so I won't. But I hope everyone takes note of those who are justifying Epstein

I know you and I disagree about the uniparty/deep state nature of American politics. . . but, with that said, it has been my observation that the ruling elites seemed to have had two strategies, (depending on the party,) to deal with this issue.

The right, as we see now, just want to ignore it all, and deny there is anything nefarious behind all this, beyond just sex trafficking by some monsters.

The left, it would seem, know/or believe, that eventually all this has to come out. Thus, their strategy has been, since the legalization of gay marriage, to move toward normalizing pedophilia. If it becomes normal, then eventually the facts can come out, without the meaning behind why these facts exist as they do. . .
 
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