Verdict reached in Karmelo murder trial

[JoeB131]

Different cases have different outcomes. The black kid provoked the incident and had a knife. Thats intent as well as pure stupidity. Lock his dumb ass up

The White kid provoked his incident and had a knife. That's intent as well as pure stupidity. Lock his ass up for more than 10 years.

I have no problem with locking Anthony up. I have a problem with the white kid committing the same crime, but getting a much lighter sentence.

 

[Meathead]

Different cases have different outcomes. The black kid provoked the incident and had a knife. Thats intent as well as pure stupidity. Lock his dumb ass up

You're talking to someone who's still looking for the guys who attacked Jussie Smolette.

 

[JoeB131]

You're talking to someone who's still looking for the guys who attacked Jussie Smolette.

Actually, I called the Smollett thing a hoax when it happened.

Because I live in Chicago and realize how improbable the story was.

No MAGAt would be out in freezing downtown Chicago weather at night.

I do think the white folks spending millions of dollars on an unconstitutional prosecution that was eventually thrown out was stupid, though.

 

[krichton]

He didn't admit to anything. He claimed self-defense because THIS kid was going to beat him up.

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No, seriously, this was the kid he was so terrified of that he had to stab him five times.

So the white kid gets a reduced charge (The jury originally recommended 2 years, but the judge imposed 10) but the black kid gets 35 years for defending himself against two much bigger kids?

It's not about "black victimhood", it's about "White privilege".

Let's stop with all the "white priviledge" virtue signaling nonsense and just stick to the facts. At the end of the day, the jury didn't buy Anthony's silly defense, and neither did the judge and that's why he got 35 years.

 

[krichton]

Caysen had zero reason to have a knife on him, except he was plannnig to fight Ramirez.

Who frankly, looks like kind of a wimpy kid in his picture.

Then why did he say, he didn't want to fight Ramirez when they encountered each other in the bathroom?

 

[JoeB131]

Let's stop with all the "white priviledge" virtue signaling nonsense and just stick to the facts. At the end of the day, the jury didn't buy Anthony's silly defense, and neither did the judge and that's why he got 35 years.

But yet they bought the silly defense of Rittenhouse, Zimmerman, Chow, etc. etc.

White kid commits the same crime and only gets 10 years.

That's white privilege.

 

[JoeB131]

Then why did he say, he didn't want to fight Ramirez when they encountered each other in the bathroom?

He also said he wanted a gun and he was going to put Ramirez in the Hospital.

 

[Meathead]

Actually, I called the Smollett thing a hoax when it happened.

Because I live in Chicago and realize how improbable the story was.

No MAGAt would be out in freezing downtown Chicago weather at night.

I do think the white folks spending millions of dollars on an unconstitutional prosecution that was eventually thrown out was stupid, though.

Yeah, and you were sure Zimmerman was going to spend the rest of his short life getting cornholed in a big house in Florida. You're bonkers enough to believe anything as long as it jibes with your demented ideas of right/wrong and justice which likely go back to a very troubled childhood.

 

[SweetTea]

Well, easy to make a case when you have white privilege, isn't it?

White privilege sure has let you down. According to previous posts over the years, you bash the “rich” and big bad corporations in part because you got the short end of the stick on some health insurance claims. Where was your white privilege then? Maybe you would have come out better if you were a minority and took advantage of the plethora of minority/race based assistance programs.

You are one very confused puppy.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, and you were sure Zimmerman was going to spend the rest of his short life getting cornholed in a big house in Florida. You're bonkers enough to believe anything as long as it jibes with your demented ideas of right/wrong and justice which likely go back to a very troubled childhood.

I guess I had too much faith in a jury to see a grown ass man stalking and shooting a child was guilty of something.

You do realize that was a travesty of justice, right?

 

[JoeB131]

White privilege sure has let you down. According to previous posts over the years, you bash the “rich” and big bad corporations in part because you got the short end of the stick on some health insurance claims. Where was your white privilege then? Maybe you would have come out better if you were a minority and took advantage of the plethora of minority/race based assistance programs.

You are one very confused puppy.

No confusion at all. Insurance sucks for everyone.

But not the topic of this thread, is it?

Let's stick to the topic.

White kid gets 10 years for the same crime that a black kid got 35 years for.

White Privilege.

 

[Meathead]

I guess I had too much faith in a jury to see a grown ass man stalking and shooting a child was guilty of something.

You do realize that was a travesty of justice, right?

Certainly not in that case Joey although I've little doubt that you sincerely believe it. Your pathology permeates your posts which is how we understand your deep-rooted mental problems.

 

[SweetTea]

White kid gets 10 years for the same crime that a black kid got 35 years for.

Yeah, I am sure there were no differences in these cases other than race. I am also sure that we won’t find cases of a black person getting a lesser sentence than a white person for a similar case. No way. Impossible.

 

[Lesh]

Yeah, I am sure there were no differences in these cases other than race. I am also sure that we won’t find cases of a black person getting a lesser sentence than a white person for a similar case. No way. Impossible.

Well?

Go ahead and find that

 

[SweetTea]

Well?

Go ahead and find that

OJ got off. Wow, that was hard. There are thousands of cases all over the country every day. I can guarantee you there are many, but it is just easier to jump to the racism angle.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, I am sure there were no differences in these cases other than race. I am also sure that we won’t find cases of a black person getting a lesser sentence than a white person for a similar case. No way. Impossible.

You are free to post one if you can find it.

But in these two cases.

White boy stabs a hispanic boy multiple times after telling all his friends he was going to "put him in the hospital" - Ten years.

Black boy stabs a white boy once after the white boy and his brother started pushing him around - 35 years.

Equal Justice Under the Law.

This isn't equal justice.

 

[JoeB131]

OJ got off. Wow, that was hard. There are thousands of cases all over the country every day. I can guarantee you there are many, but it is just easier to jump to the racism angle.

The fact that you have to go back 30 years to find a case where a black person got off is telling.

OJ got off because the Police lied.

They were caught lying in open court.

Not just Fuhrer-man (which is what his fellow cops called him.) lying about never using the N-word.

But when their evidence technician testified on the stand that he personally collected all the evidence, the defense was able to show that his assistants collected it.

 

[SweetTea]

You are free to post one if you can find it.

But in these two cases.

White boy stabs a hispanic boy multiple times after telling all his friends he was going to "put him in the hospital" - Ten years.

Black boy stabs a white boy once after the white boy and his brother started pushing him around - 35 years.

Equal Justice Under the Law.

This isn't equal justice.

I read into the Allison case. You gloss over a lot of detail. There was an actual fight in the bathroom in the case of Allison. Caysen was injured, albeit, minor bruises and scratches, but indicative of an altercation. Anthony had zero injuries…none, nada. There was no signficant struggle. Caysen escalated a fight to a death. Anthony killed a guy with no struggle. Both should have consequences, but they are not the same.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Blacks, and stupid whites apparently, just don't understand that you CANNOT be committing a crime and then provoke someone and then call it self defense. Even if you aren't the first person to make physical contact, if you PROVOKE, knowing you are armed, self defense no longer applies. This holds especially true in instances where you are committing a crime, such as trespassing.

For instance, if I confront someone on my property who is trespassing and they are armed, they cannot claim self defense saying that I provoked the encounter. Because had THEY not been trespassing on my property, there would have been no encounter. In fact, quite the contrary, I can claim self defense in the event of a shooting because I had a right to be where I was and I have a right to confront and remove trespassers from my property.

But in this case, he has no right to be where he was, he was asked to leave, and then he turned into a ghetto negro. Now he's an incarcerated ghetto negro. I hope he thinks it was worth it.

You CANNOT be the one who started the confrontation and then claim self defense. PERIOD.

You CANNOT be committing a crime at the time and then claim self defense. PERIOD.

These two things are non-negotiable and absolutes in the eyes of the law. Anyone who has a concealed carry permit and has taken the required training to get one, knows this already. They spend half the class telling you where you CANNOT carry, such as bars, hospitals, etc. You also can't carry into any private businesses that state that they ban firearms. If you do, without the owners permission, you are considered an armed trespasser at that point.

Carrying a weapon for self defense comes with a LOT of responsibility for your own behavior. You must stay SQUEAKY CLEAN in order to be able to claim self defense using your weapon because once you claim self defense, the burden shifts to YOU to PROVE it. At that point, you DO have to prove you are innocent of murder because once you claim self defense, you are admitting that you did it. You're just trying to prove WHY you did it.

It worked for Zimmerman and you applauded it. It worked for Rittenhouse and you applauded it.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Just pray he’s never on a jury where a black is the thug and a white is his victim.

Well we have seen the results when racist like you are on the jury.