Venezuela Socialism and Gun Control.

[Andylusion]

Every draconian dictatorship ever has done the same, have they not?

Does that include monarchies and tribal leaders?

Not every monarchy, or tribal leader, is a draconian dictator. There have been many examples of people in positions of power, that did their best for the good of the people.

Now did I say, perfectly? No, I did not. But then, no democratically elected "servant of the people" has performed perfectly for the good of the people either.

My point though, is that socialists, almost universally result in what we're seeing in Venezuela. First economic damage. Then confiscation of arms to prevent opposition, then economic devastation.... then murder of the unarmed.

This is how it always is with the left-wing.

In South America it doesn't matter which side is in power it ends up the same, that includes right and left govts.

Not true. And there are plenty of counter examples throughout the world, not just in south America.

The what happened to the previous dozen or so right winged govts. of South America?

Give me an example? Pinochet was the most notable, but Chili did not end up like Venezuela by any stretch. Who would you point to?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Venezuela bans private gun owners

Sounds like our democrats

 

[pismoe]

Every draconian dictatorship ever has done the same, have they not?

Does that include monarchies and tribal leaders?

Not every monarchy, or tribal leader, is a draconian dictator. There have been many examples of people in positions of power, that did their best for the good of the people.

Now did I say, perfectly? No, I did not. But then, no democratically elected "servant of the people" has performed perfectly for the good of the people either.

My point though, is that socialists, almost universally result in what we're seeing in Venezuela. First economic damage. Then confiscation of arms to prevent opposition, then economic devastation.... then murder of the unarmed.

This is how it always is with the left-wing.

In South America it doesn't matter which side is in power it ends up the same, that includes right and left govts.

------------------------------------------------ and so i suppose that thats a reason for the 'venzie' or other Peoples to have the Same efficient and effective guns that the 'government' has eh Moonglow ??

 

[pismoe]

Venezuela bans private gun owners

------------------------------------------------------ 'maduro' arms and grows his militia . ---------------- --- Maduro says Venezuela's civil militia grows to 1.6 million members - Reuters ---

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I found this picture, and it's dead on accurate.

Would any left-winger care to defend this?

Strawman fallacy.

No one on 'the left’ advocates for ‘socialism’ or the ‘confiscation’ of guns.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I found this picture, and it's dead on accurate.

Would any left-winger care to defend this?

You have no idea what Socialism is. What you call Socialism is Dictatorship. You are living proof there is no cure for stupid.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Every draconian dictatorship ever has done the same, have they not?

Does that include monarchies and tribal leaders?

Not every monarchy, or tribal leader, is a draconian dictator. There have been many examples of people in positions of power, that did their best for the good of the people.

Now did I say, perfectly? No, I did not. But then, no democratically elected "servant of the people" has performed perfectly for the good of the people either.

My point though, is that socialists, almost universally result in what we're seeing in Venezuela. First economic damage. Then confiscation of arms to prevent opposition, then economic devastation.... then murder of the unarmed.

This is how it always is with the left-wing.

Your thread premise is a lie, as wrong as it is ignorant and ridiculous.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

a nationalized health care & education system would turn America into North Korea!

Not in a day, for sure. But it could very well do so over time.

And this fails as a slippery slope fallacy.

All conservatives have are lies, demagoguery, and sophistry.

 

[Pilot1]

Do you think Cuba, China, and North Korea allow private "citizens" (subjects) to own firearms? How about most of Europe, and the rest of Asia? No? That's what the Democrats want here. Total subjugation and to make the Constitution irrelevant.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Do you think Cuba, China, and North Korea allow private "citizens" (subjects) to own firearms? How about most of Europe, and the rest of Asia? No? That's what the Democrats want here. Total subjugation and to make the Constitution irrelevant.

Thank you for bringing this up. You are going for a wild ride.

Cuba allows private ownership of firearms, just not full auto weapons.
China allows private ownership of firearms, just not full auto weapons.
Most of Europe allows private firearms, just not full auto weapons.

North Korea does not allow private firearm ownership since it's a Dictatorship and worries that the population would use them to overthrow the current Dictator. Same goes for every other Dictatorship that has ever existed.

Stop making shit up.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I found this picture, and it's dead on accurate.

Would any left-winger care to defend this?

Strawman fallacy.

No one on 'the left’ advocates for ‘socialism’ or the ‘confiscation’ of guns.

^ fucking liar

 

[Likkmee]

Does that include monarchies and tribal leaders?

Not every monarchy, or tribal leader, is a draconian dictator. There have been many examples of people in positions of power, that did their best for the good of the people.

Now did I say, perfectly? No, I did not. But then, no democratically elected "servant of the people" has performed perfectly for the good of the people either.

My point though, is that socialists, almost universally result in what we're seeing in Venezuela. First economic damage. Then confiscation of arms to prevent opposition, then economic devastation.... then murder of the unarmed.

This is how it always is with the left-wing.

In South America it doesn't matter which side is in power it ends up the same, that includes right and left govts.

Not true. And there are plenty of counter examples throughout the world, not just in south America.

The what happened to the previous dozen or so right winged govts. of South America?

Give me an example? Pinochet was the most notable, but Chili did not end up like Venezuela by any stretch. Who would you point to?

There's some good in S.A. Uruguay and Paraguay are real decent, albeit lacking in infrastructure. Chile is fantastic. Panama is fair as is Costa Rica(lived in both). Ecuador is decent outside of Quito.
Here's a slapper. Colombia today is wonderful !
Peru has the usual infrastructure issue but it pretty cool..... but I couldn't live there

 

[pismoe]

no other country or nation has the Gun RIGHTS that the USA has though i hear that 'canada' and the 'swiss' are or were fine . Anyway , with 'maduro' and his 'venzies' . I hear that the 'venzy' people are starving . And 'maduro' is growing and arming his 'militia' .

 

[pismoe]

starving 'venzies' kill cow with rocks and sticks video . --- Starving Venezuelas beat cattle to death with rocks | Daily Mail Online --- Point is that 'venzies' are starving i guess . 'venzies' MAY be starving as long as 'maduro' likes . The 'maduro' government starving its people is an example of why the 'venzy' people should be armed with guns that are as efficient and effective as the 'venzie' militia .And NOT for the purpose of hunting or shooting COWS .

 

[pismoe]

According to article , many Criminal are the police . --- Venezuelans regret gun ban, 'a declaration of war against an unarmed population' ---

 

[pismoe]

a short article about owning guns in 'cuba' . --- Firearms Freedom Si, Cuba No! - The Truth About Guns ---

 

[Andylusion]

I found this picture, and it's dead on accurate.

Would any left-winger care to defend this?

Strawman fallacy.

No one on 'the left’ advocates for ‘socialism’ or the ‘confiscation’ of guns.

You are wrong on both accounts.

 

[Andylusion]

Not every monarchy, or tribal leader, is a draconian dictator. There have been many examples of people in positions of power, that did their best for the good of the people.

Now did I say, perfectly? No, I did not. But then, no democratically elected "servant of the people" has performed perfectly for the good of the people either.

My point though, is that socialists, almost universally result in what we're seeing in Venezuela. First economic damage. Then confiscation of arms to prevent opposition, then economic devastation.... then murder of the unarmed.

This is how it always is with the left-wing.

In South America it doesn't matter which side is in power it ends up the same, that includes right and left govts.

Not true. And there are plenty of counter examples throughout the world, not just in south America.

The what happened to the previous dozen or so right winged govts. of South America?

Give me an example? Pinochet was the most notable, but Chili did not end up like Venezuela by any stretch. Who would you point to?

There's some good in S.A. Uruguay and Paraguay are real decent, albeit lacking in infrastructure. Chile is fantastic. Panama is fair as is Costa Rica(lived in both). Ecuador is decent outside of Quito.
Here's a slapper. Colombia today is wonderful !
Peru has the usual infrastructure issue but it pretty cool..... but I couldn't live there

The prior poster was claiming that right-wing governments in south American end up no different than Venezuela.
I asked for some examples.

I mostly agree with your post though.

 

[danielpalos]

I found this picture, and it's dead on accurate.

Would any left-winger care to defend this?

Lousy right wing management. Venezuela is a federal Republic.

 

[Andylusion]

Do you think Cuba, China, and North Korea allow private "citizens" (subjects) to own firearms? How about most of Europe, and the rest of Asia? No? That's what the Democrats want here. Total subjugation and to make the Constitution irrelevant.

Thank you for bringing this up. You are going for a wild ride.

Cuba allows private ownership of firearms, just not full auto weapons.
China allows private ownership of firearms, just not full auto weapons.
Most of Europe allows private firearms, just not full auto weapons.

North Korea does not allow private firearm ownership since it's a Dictatorship and worries that the population would use them to overthrow the current Dictator. Same goes for every other Dictatorship that has ever existed.

Stop making shit up.

Yeah... but not really.

Cuba allows private ownership of guns, on paper. That's true. But between the fact that there is no legal sale of guns, and Ammunition is like finding a moon rock, they really don't need to ban private ownership of guns. Yeah, on paper they are allowed to own guns. Yes. But the reality is, you are more likely to catch a Unicorn to ride to work, than get your hands on a firearm in Cuba. And even if they could, they are so impoverished, they are not likely to afford one, not including bullets.

China is somewhat the same, but for a different reason. Yes, on paper you can own a gun. The reality is, unless you are part of a security detail, or unless you are a paying member of a hunting association, you are not getting the highly regulated licenses to own a gun.