Va Primary: Gingrich, Perry fail to get on ballot.

[JimBowie1958]

The proof is in observing who benifits from all this crap, jack-ass.

That's not "proof." That's "conjecture."

No, it is proof. Proof does not have to be mathematically air-tight to be proof. It can be circumstantial and/or relay on obvious observations such as 'he who profits did it.'

Proof | Define Proof at Dictionary.com

1. evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth.

2. anything serving as such evidence: What proof do you have?

3. the act of testing or making trial of anything; test; trial: to put a thing to the proof.

4. the establishment of the truth of anything; demonstration.

5. Law . (in judicial proceedings) evidence having probative weight.

And it's the main argument of the twoofers on why Bush and the oil companies were behind 9/11.

Bullshit. The terrorists were behind 9/11 and what the twofers provide is not what they think it is, as the biggest benificiary was not Bush and the Oil companies, but the Islamacist terroists.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Va Primary: Gingrich, Perry fail to get on ballot.

Ditto

Lord, the jack-asses are out in full flame tonight.

 

[JWBooth]

Va Primary: Gingrich, Perry fail to get on ballot.

Ditto

Lord, the jack-asses are out in full flame tonight.

Oh **** off. The silly bastards failed in a major way to do the most basic of things, qualify to get on the ballot. Hell, even Fred Thompson pulled that one off.

 

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You know who must be some of the sorriest losers tonight?

Folks who adored Sarah Palin, and tossed gobs of money at her in hopes she would run...

Then, after the looooong wait, the drawing out of her youbetchas, she broke their hearts and said ...mmm, nope. Oh well.

So, Cain, the magical mystery 9.99 Pizza Man came fluttering anew into their fragile, still-broken hearts. Wallets of cash opened once again. Surely, he would be the nominee, Shirley! Then the grope-a-dope came a crashing.

Aha! Said the forlorn republican voter. Newt will save us. It's a sure bet!
The comforting sound of the non-inside Washington, inside Washington lovable dovable, knock-em-dead Newt! The historian will make history and this time - this time - for certain, the money will not be misspent.

And oh how the checks of cash and hope were sent off.

And, on Christmas eve night, as visions of a bright Newt Civilization danced in their heads...

It
all
came
crumbling
down.

 

[JoeB131]

As opposed to the conspiracy theory? Riiiggghhhtt...

No Conspiracy about it... the GOP has been sandbagging anyone who stands opposed to Romney. I'm starting to think they were behind a lot of the Herman Cain BS as well.

The ironic thing is, they've probably made it easier for Obama to win.

yes thats it, It had nothing to do with how Cain handled it all.

You went from sane with saying it was Cain who fucked up, to retard with this.

Cain handled it badly, but it wouldn't have had to be handled at all if someone didn't start dropping dimes to the media.

Again, when someone benefits from a series of misfortunes, once is happenstance, twice is bad luck and three times is enemy action.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So they only people the REPUBLICAN Party lets on the ballot are Mitt and the Crazy Guy, and you don't smell a fix? Really?

lol - I have to admit, you’ve got a point there.

 

[Cowman]

Face it righties... people like Mitt Romney and John McCain are going to be your cream of the crop for a while to come yet. The people who vote in your primaries(your voter base) don't want those wackjobs that you keep offering. That's not saying McCain and Romney don't have their own form of wackjobbery, but they are more tolerable to your voting base.

People don't like your ideologies.

We democrats suffer the same problems... we get big talkers who win in our primaries(and maybe even elections), but they're big talkers... and don't do half the stuff they promised. We need people with real convictions, who don't try and appease everyone at every corner.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Ditto

Lord, the jack-asses are out in full flame tonight.

Oh **** off. The silly bastards failed in a major way to do the most basic of things, qualify to get on the ballot. Hell, even Fred Thompson pulled that one off.

They didnt fail at anything, dumbass. Gingrich had between 12,000 to 14,000 signatures and all he needed were 10,000. Typically you lose about 10% from improper signatures, so Gingrich should have made it easily, but GOP establishment toadies simply tossed enough to deny Gingrich a place on the ballot.

How stupid can you be to think that out of SEVEN CANDIDATES running only TWO could manage to get on the ballot? Usually New York and other union dominated states are the ones hard to qualify for, but I have never heard of a state dissallowing such a huge percentage of the field IN ITS OWN PARTY.

This obviously rigged and you are a dumbass.

 

[JimBowie1958]

You know who must be some of the sorriest losers tonight?

Folks who adored Sarah Palin, and tossed gobs of money at her in hopes she would run...

Then, after the looooong wait, the drawing out of her youbetchas, she broke their hearts and said ...mmm, nope. Oh well.

So, Cain, the magical mystery 9.99 Pizza Man came fluttering anew into their fragile, still-broken hearts. Wallets of cash opened once again. Surely, he would be the nominee, Shirley! Then the grope-a-dope came a crashing.

Aha! Said the forlorn republican voter. Newt will save us. It's a sure bet!
The comforting sound of the non-inside Washington, inside Washington lovable dovable, knock-em-dead Newt! The historian will make history and this time - this time - for certain, the money will not be misspent.

And oh how the checks of cash and hope were sent off.

And, on Christmas eve night, as visions of a bright Newt Civilization danced in their heads...

It
all
came
crumbling
down.

That is the stupidest summary of anything I have ever read. In 2008 I would have been happy with either Romney or Huckabee as McCain had a long running rep as a RINO sleazebag.

This election there were six decent choices and only one RINO who couldnt even get any serious attention and that was Huntsman. The GOP establishment is backing Romney because he is the least favorite of the conservative wing, he is spawn of an old eastern elite family and he has obviously cut deals and come to some understandings with some very powerful people.

If Romney won the country would have a much better PResident.

I simply hate the way the GOP establishment is shoving Romney down everyone elses throat, and shows such contempt for the democratic process.

Oh, maybe that is why you lefties are so comfortable with all this; that is how you wish your party was so you libtards could keep running things without the hassles of the more moderate groups like Hillaries.

 

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Lord, the jack-asses are out in full flame tonight.

Oh **** off. The silly bastards failed in a major way to do the most basic of things, qualify to get on the ballot. Hell, even Fred Thompson pulled that one off.

They didnt fail at anything, dumbass. Gingrich had between 12,000 to 14,000 signatures and all he needed were 10,000. Typically you lose about 10% from improper signatures, so Gingrich should have made it easily, but GOP establishment toadies simply tossed enough to deny Gingrich a place on the ballot.

How stupid can you be to think that out of SEVEN CANDIDATES running only TWO could manage to get on the ballot? Usually New York and other union dominated states are the ones hard to qualify for, but I have never heard of a state dissallowing such a huge percentage of the field IN ITS OWN PARTY.

This obviously rigged and you are a dumbass.

That's a pile of shit.

Gingrichs' camp only served up 11,050 signatures - ACCORDING TO THE GINGRICH CAMP.

Not enough. He fucked up. Big time.

The dude is so inept he didn't even know HIS OWN STATE of residency doesn't allow primary write-in signatures.

Stop pulling numbers out of your ass and stop blaming others for Fig Newton's failures.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Oh **** off. The silly bastards failed in a major way to do the most basic of things, qualify to get on the ballot. Hell, even Fred Thompson pulled that one off.

They didnt fail at anything, dumbass. Gingrich had between 12,000 to 14,000 signatures and all he needed were 10,000. Typically you lose about 10% from improper signatures, so Gingrich should have made it easily, but GOP establishment toadies simply tossed enough to deny Gingrich a place on the ballot.

How stupid can you be to think that out of SEVEN CANDIDATES running only TWO could manage to get on the ballot? Usually New York and other union dominated states are the ones hard to qualify for, but I have never heard of a state dissallowing such a huge percentage of the field IN ITS OWN PARTY.

This obviously rigged and you are a dumbass.

That's a pile of shit.

Gingrichs' camp only served up 11,050 signatures - ACCORDING TO THE GINGRICH CAMP.

Not enough. He fucked up. Big time.

The dude is so inept he didn't even know HIS OWN STATE of residency doesn't allow primary write-in signatures.

Stop pulling numbers out of your ass and stop blaming others for Fig Newton's failures.

You are a frigging retard.

Here is what Gingrich said:
Gingrich, Perry fail to qualify for GOP primary ballot in Virginia - CNN.com

On Wednesday, Gingrich assured a crowd of supporters he had met the threshold for appearing on the ballot, saying he had gathered anywhere from 12,000 to 14,000 signatures.

Virginia requires candidates to obtain 10,000 signatures from registered voters, with at least 400 signatures coming from each of the commonwealth's 11 congressional districts.

Gingrich's spokesman said Wednesday the effort to secure a spot on the Virginia ballot was meant to showcase the campaign's ground game.

"It's a demonstration that Gingrich is outrunning Romney in states beyond Iowa," said press secretary R.C. Hammond.

Hell, even Keyes got on the ballot back in 2008.

The difference is that the Virginia GOP changed the proscess this year:
Virginia’s GOP Primary Ballot: Romney, Paul… And That’s It. - By Jim Geraghty - The Campaign Spot - National Review Online

Those signature requirements, by the way, were 10,000 signatures including 500 in each of the state’s congressional districts. What apparently tripped up Gingrich and Perry was the requirement that petition signers list their addresses.

A Gingrich campaign official prior to the move by the RPV said the problem is how the rules are set up, arguing that the party is, for apparently the first time, cross-checking the addresses that signature-givers gave against the electronic voter database file for accuracies. A name without a proper address match was tossed, the official said.

“What one needs to ask is ‘what percentage of valid, registered voters self-identify a current address that matches voter rolls that the voter might not have updated since 2008”? Are you 100% certain that your address you and all of your neighbors matches current voter rolls? It strikes me that this is not an accurate means to identify registered voters signing for ANY candidate, not just Gingrich,” the official wrote.

But guess what? If you turned in a magic number of signatures, the state would not even validate ANY of the signatures you turned in:

VA Ballot Access – No Way to Choose a President | RedState

The Washington Examiner ran a gleeful hit piece Friday night quoting an anonymous “source with knowledge of the Republican Party of Virginia (RPV) petition signature verification process” who said Perry was “dead on arrival” and didn’t follow the “simple” rules required in VA...

The article also notes that the rules were sent to “all the Republican presidential campaigns” in March, but later admits that Perry’s campaign may not have received the detailed instructions because he didn’t enter the race until August.

The Richmond Times-Dispatch informs us that the Romney campaign had their petitions personally delivered by none other than Lt. Governor Bill Bolling, Romney’s VA campaign chairman. ...

The blog goes on to describe the process of gaining ballot access, which is likely the most burdensome in the country:


“A minimum of 10,000 petition signatures collected statewide, including at least 400 from each of its 11 congressional districts. That’s hard enough. But then there are the additional restrictions: The petition circulators must be registered or eligible to vote in Virginia. The signatures must be gathered using the State Board of Elections’ official form, a two-page document which must be reproduced as double-sided. (Single-sided stapled forms are not accepted.) Signatures must be collected on forms that are specific to each city, county and congressional district. Only “qualified” voters may sign a petition. And every single petition form must be sworn and notarized.”

The blogger claims to know top political consultants who turned town lucrative offers working on presidential campaigns because they thought the task could not be accomplished.

To make matters worse, the Republican Party of Virginia appears to have rigged the system in favor of candidates who were able to gather a comfortable excess of names on petitions. Chairman of the Republican Party of Virginia, Pat Mullins, issued the following (undated) directive:

“Any candidate who submits at least 15,000 signatures of registered voters on valid petitions
statewide and has at least 600 signatures of registered voters on valid petitions from each of the 11 Congressional Districts shall be deemed to have met the threshold for qualification and will be certified (provided, of course, that other requirements of State law have also been met)”

“If any candidate submits fewer than 15,000 signatures of registered voters on valid petitions statewide or fewer than 600 signatures of registered voters on valid petitions in one or more of the 11 Congressional Districts, the Republican Party of Virginia will individually verify signatures until the 10,000 signature statewide threshold and/or 400 per Congressional district is met.”

In other words, if a candidate can gather 50% more signatures than actually required, the standard for those signatures is lower than for the signatures of candidates who gather 14,999 signatures or less. It appears that the Romney campaign, which boasted of gathering “some 16,000″ signatures was able to escape the scrutiny of having every signature individually verified.

But hey, libtard, I did some digging and guess what? The chairman for the ROmney campaign is also the Lt Govenor of Virginia!

Virginia and Washington, DC endorsements of Mitt Romney

Bolling ties 2013 hopes to Romney - Washington Times

Yeah, no conflict of interest there! Perry was not notified of the state requirements, too damn bad for him! Since he cant read Bollings mind thousands of miles away, he is obviously not qualified to run! And Gingriches signatures were not valid, obviously since he didnt stuff enough of them to get over a 15,000 count! Yerp, the more you cheat the less scrutiny you get in Virginia.

So stop talking crap about things you obviously are not informed on.But why would I ever expect some libtard to do that?

 

[JimBowie1958]

GOP Tea Party folks need to note who in the state, like lt Govenor Bolling are establishment toadies andd vote against them in the next election. Purge these anti-democracy jerks out of their party and build a strong base, state byt state, till they have an iron-clad grip on the state party structures.

And that all starts by noting who the low-lifes are and deliver payback when the time comes.

 

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They didnt fail at anything, dumbass. Gingrich had between 12,000 to 14,000 signatures and all he needed were 10,000. Typically you lose about 10% from improper signatures, so Gingrich should have made it easily, but GOP establishment toadies simply tossed enough to deny Gingrich a place on the ballot.

How stupid can you be to think that out of SEVEN CANDIDATES running only TWO could manage to get on the ballot? Usually New York and other union dominated states are the ones hard to qualify for, but I have never heard of a state dissallowing such a huge percentage of the field IN ITS OWN PARTY.

This obviously rigged and you are a dumbass.

That's a pile of shit.

Gingrichs' camp only served up 11,050 signatures - ACCORDING TO THE GINGRICH CAMP.

Not enough. He fucked up. Big time.

The dude is so inept he didn't even know HIS OWN STATE of residency doesn't allow primary write-in signatures.

Stop pulling numbers out of your ass and stop blaming others for Fig Newton's failures.

You are a frigging retard.

Here is what Gingrich said:
Gingrich, Perry fail to qualify for GOP primary ballot in Virginia - CNN.com


Hell, even Keyes got on the ballot back in 2008.

The difference is that the Virginia GOP changed the proscess this year:
Virginia’s GOP Primary Ballot: Romney, Paul… And That’s It. - By Jim Geraghty - The Campaign Spot - National Review Online

...

You are some kind of special stupid, aren't you?

At some point in your short & putrid life here, you'll come to know when I post something, I am always ready to back it up. Never doubt me.
You will lose every time.

Meanwhile, you will continue to be a blithering blame machine of spectacular proportions.

Listen up Douche: Fig Newton handed in 11,050 Ballots.

NOT 12,000 to 14,000. Your problem is: You listen to Newt. That's the first indication to readers of your shit how deluded you are.

Now, I'll put it in Whack-job right wing Newsmax media presentation terms, so you can grasp the nuances of words that escape you - like OOOOOPPPPS!

According to the Virginia state board of elections, Gingrich made the ballot with 11,050 signatures, which is short of the 12,000 to 13,000 he said he had at an event in Arlington, Va. on Wednesday night.

Gingrich Makes Virginia Ballot; Others Miss Out

 

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Oh Jim Boy - that -10 neg repping really really stung me. lol. A great laugh to start off my Christmas Day.

Thanks!

 

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And for the posters who like reading actual journalistic sources:

"Perry’s campaign told state election officials it had submitted 11,911 signatures, and Gingrich’s campaign said it submitted 11,050 signatures. State party officials spent Friday night validating the signatures."

Gingrich, Perry disqualified from Va. primary ballot - Virginia Politics - The Washington Post

 

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10,000 signatures out of a state which cast 3.7 million votes in the last presidential election- and he had MONTHS -- MONTHS to do it...

and still the Fig Newton lickers think it was somebody else's fault.

 

[Sallow]

Romney's religion is his worst enemy. Mormons aren't Christians according to the religious right. Of course, he's the only candidate that has any chance.

It ain't Romney's religion that's going to sink him. He's already populating he's "cabinent" with ex-Bush PNAC'ers and talking about attacking Iran.

That..and just about every day he says something that is just golden for Democratic ads.

Given your prerogatives, then if by some miracle, Mr. Sallow, a Republican should win, who that is left would you like to see in the White HOuse? It sounds like you don't care for any war talk, regardless of the circumstances. Early this morning, I saw on television that a firm link between AlQaeda and Iran was established and announced by the Obama administration. It sounded like war talk coming from the left aisle. What's the deal?

The "connections" the US is asserting now..are just as tenuous as they asserted during the run up to war with Iraq. I seriously don't like this idea of mapping the entire government to an organization simply because somebody happens to be in or traveling through their terroritory. And I basically think it's the Saudis that are driving this...and are probably the real root of Al Qaeda.

Would would I "like" to see from the right in the White House? Jon Huntsman seems like a reasonable fellow as does Buddy Roemer. I could live with either one of those guys.

 

[JoeB131]

Face it righties... people like Mitt Romney and John McCain are going to be your cream of the crop for a while to come yet. The people who vote in your primaries(your voter base) don't want those wackjobs that you keep offering. That's not saying McCain and Romney don't have their own form of wackjobbery, but they are more tolerable to your voting base.

People don't like your ideologies.

We democrats suffer the same problems... we get big talkers who win in our primaries(and maybe even elections), but they're big talkers... and don't do half the stuff they promised. We need people with real convictions, who don't try and appease everyone at every corner.

get real. None of them do what they promised. Our system is designed specifically so they won't keep most of their promises.

I think the problem that we have in 2012 is the same problem your party had in 2004. When a party holds the presidency for four years, it essentially sucks all the air out of the room, especially if they took a bath in the last midterm. You have to grow and develop a new generation of leaders.

Romney, Gingrich, Perry are pretty pathetic. But so were Edwards, Kerry and Dean in 2004. Had little to do with idealogy, it had more to do with the fact that any other major leader had whithered during a long presidency combined with a house keeping a change in party had.

The problem with the GOP here is that instead of going through the soul searching a party needs to go through about what it stands for (which is what the Democrats did in 2004 and 2006), you have an establishment that is trying to suppress any rebelling faction from increasing it's influence.

So if your "chosen" candidate is vanilla, dull, and uninspiring, you take everything else off the market.

 

[JoeB131]

10,000 signatures out of a state which cast 3.7 million votes in the last presidential election- and he had MONTHS -- MONTHS to do it...

and still the Fig Newton lickers think it was somebody else's fault.

Newt sumbitted 12-14K signatures. This was a fix, not a fair process..

And if Newt takes this to court, he will probably prevail. The problem here is that you have a GOP that is pretty much determined it's going to cheat to get it's weird Mormon Robot nominated, rather than consider why voters aren't going for it.

 

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Newt sumbitted 12-14K signatures.

No, he didn't.