US lawmakers call on Obama to refrain from action on Israel at UN

[TheOldSchool]

It would be nice if we came out and said no foreign aid to either side until you children grow up and figure out your little squabble

And Israel would welcome that as it would leave them free to trade with who they want. It would also cost America a lot of money in future research and development costs when Israel is not shouldering 90% of them

Great then they should push for it to happen.

Why ?

You act like you didn't just make a great argument for it

 

[toomuchtime_]

It would be nice if we came out and said no foreign aid to either side until you children grow up and figure out your little squabble

No, it would be much better to say something intelligent.

My comment's as close to intelligent as it gets in these Israel/Palestine threads.

Perhaps it is as close to intelligent as you can get. There is no political entity among the Palestinians that can credibly offer peace to Israel and it is unlikely there will be in the foreseeable future, so talk about reaching a final status agreement (with whom?) is nonsense.

This being the case, the best anyone can reasonably hope for is increased cooperation between Israel and those elements among the Palestinians who want to live in peace with Israel. This kind of cooperation happens everyday in Israel's communities in Judea and Samaria, where tens of thousands of Palestinians go to work and earn from two to six times what they otherwise would. Far from being obstacles to peace as some claim, thee communities are oases of peace in the otherwise violent Arab society. Palestinians not only work in these communities, but they also shop there, and Israelis shop in many of the Arab villages nearby.

These people, Israelis and Palestinians are establishing real peace on the ground through daily mutually beneficial transactions. If a more comprehensive peace is to grow between the Israelis and the Palestinians, it will be through these kinds of mutually beneficial transactions and not because of the ravings of the Palestinians leaders or the EU or UN or Obama administration.

That's what the Apartheid apologists said.

No, that's what realists say. Calling it apartheid is what ignorant bigots say.

 

[montelatici]

Why, because it is Apartheid? What other country keeps millions of people under occupation and oppressed because they aren't of a particular religion, you ignorant piece of crap.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Why, because it is Apartheid? What other country keeps millions of people under occupation and oppressed because they aren't of a particular religion, you ignorant piece of crap.

Again, nothing but ignorance and bigotry in your post. Try thinking once in a while instead of just spitting out slogans you don't even understand.

 

[Eloy]

The Israelis have got away with the murder of Palestinian children and families for decades due to American funding and political cover by vetoes at the UN Security Council. No-one is holding his breath waiting for an American president to do anything that would displease the Israelis.

 

[theliq]

Would be a nice parting gesture on President Obama's part; some way towards actually earning his Nobel prize. Still nothing will happen, the Zionist entity has never wanted peace since before it's inception, it needs conflict so it can steal more land with impunity. The U.N. is powerless in any event, Zionist Israel ignores international law and gets away with it because of the U.S. veto.

Here we go again with rat boy making the unsubstantiated anti semitic claims of Israel stealing land. Name one piece of land that Israel has stolen that was not granted to them under International law. What international laws has Israel ignored giving details such as time, date, place, law ignored and date of implementation of said law. As he knows the ICC/ICJ is not covered by the same restrictions as the General Council and so the US does not have a veto on their actions. Now if Israel had been as naughty as he claims they would have faced investigation by the ICC/ICJ and possible charges in open court.


THE FACTS AS DETAILED IN THE UN CHARTER AND THE INTERNATIONAL LAWS MAKE HIM A LIAR AND A PROPAGANDIST

Pheo in 1948 you were happy for UN intervention to create the State of Israel.....yet now you have changed your mind.....You cannot have it both ways,to suit yourself...steve

 

[theliq]

Why, because it is Apartheid? What other country keeps millions of people under occupation and oppressed because they aren't of a particular religion, you ignorant piece of crap.

Again, nothing but ignorance and bigotry in your post. Try thinking once in a while instead of just spitting out slogans you don't even understand.

Rubbish...it is you that speaks with a forked teongue

 

[toomuchtime_]

Why, because it is Apartheid? What other country keeps millions of people under occupation and oppressed because they aren't of a particular religion, you ignorant piece of crap.

Again, nothing but ignorance and bigotry in your post. Try thinking once in a while instead of just spitting out slogans you don't even understand.

Rubbish...it is you that speaks with a forked teongue

Nonsense. There is no apartheid - if you knew what the word meant you would realize it - no occupation of people - if you were a thinker you would understand the term is used with respect to land, not people - and there is no oppression, just security measures made necessary by a hundred years of terrorism by the so called Palestinians.

The central problem is that there is no political entity among the Palestinians that can credibly offer peace to Israel, and no negotiated final agreement is possible until there is, and no one can reasonably expect there to be one in the foreseeable future.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Would be a nice parting gesture on President Obama's part; some way towards actually earning his Nobel prize. Still nothing will happen, the Zionist entity has never wanted peace since before it's inception, it needs conflict so it can steal more land with impunity. The U.N. is powerless in any event, Zionist Israel ignores international law and gets away with it because of the U.S. veto.

Here we go again with rat boy making the unsubstantiated anti semitic claims of Israel stealing land. Name one piece of land that Israel has stolen that was not granted to them under International law. What international laws has Israel ignored giving details such as time, date, place, law ignored and date of implementation of said law. As he knows the ICC/ICJ is not covered by the same restrictions as the General Council and so the US does not have a veto on their actions. Now if Israel had been as naughty as he claims they would have faced investigation by the ICC/ICJ and possible charges in open court.


THE FACTS AS DETAILED IN THE UN CHARTER AND THE INTERNATIONAL LAWS MAKE HIM A LIAR AND A PROPAGANDIST

Pheo in 1948 you were happy for UN intervention to create the State of Israel.....yet now you have changed your mind.....You cannot have it both ways,to suit yourself...steve

The UN did not create Israel, the Israelis did. It was only after Britain announced it would withdraw from the Mandate and no other country was willing to take it on that the UNGA passed the Partition resolution which recommended two states, one with a narrow Jewish majority and the second nearly entirely Arab. The UN did not recognize the new state of Israel until it made a deal with Israel in 1949 to admit the state to the UN if Israel would stop pursuing the Arab armies and agree to a truce.

 

[theliq]

Would be a nice parting gesture on President Obama's part; some way towards actually earning his Nobel prize. Still nothing will happen, the Zionist entity has never wanted peace since before it's inception, it needs conflict so it can steal more land with impunity. The U.N. is powerless in any event, Zionist Israel ignores international law and gets away with it because of the U.S. veto.

Here we go again with rat boy making the unsubstantiated anti semitic claims of Israel stealing land. Name one piece of land that Israel has stolen that was not granted to them under International law. What international laws has Israel ignored giving details such as time, date, place, law ignored and date of implementation of said law. As he knows the ICC/ICJ is not covered by the same restrictions as the General Council and so the US does not have a veto on their actions. Now if Israel had been as naughty as he claims they would have faced investigation by the ICC/ICJ and possible charges in open court.


THE FACTS AS DETAILED IN THE UN CHARTER AND THE INTERNATIONAL LAWS MAKE HIM A LIAR AND A PROPAGANDIST

Pheo in 1948 you were happy for UN intervention to create the State of Israel.....yet now you have changed your mind.....You cannot have it both ways,to suit yourself...steve

The UN did not create Israel, the Israelis did. It was only after Britain announced it would withdraw from the Mandate and no other country was willing to take it on that the UNGA passed the Partition resolution which recommended two states, one with a narrow Jewish majority and the second nearly entirely Arab. The UN did not recognize the new state of Israel until it made a deal with Israel in 1949 to admit the state to the UN if Israel would stop pursuing the Arab armies and agree to a truce.

This is not true,the UN passed this resolution in 1948 (Jews lobbied many countries (with bribes $$$$$$$$) to get their vote)....but Israel was not a sovergien sic country because it was not ratified by the Security Council....who finally signed off in late 1949.....Nothing was created by Israel because it had to be endorsed by the UN and ratified by the Security Council.....Your insane comment of "No other country wanted to take it on is putting it kindly,a figment of your imagination........" Tut-Tut,your prose sounds like Zionist Dogma to me.

 

[theliq]

Would be a nice parting gesture on President Obama's part; some way towards actually earning his Nobel prize. Still nothing will happen, the Zionist entity has never wanted peace since before it's inception, it needs conflict so it can steal more land with impunity. The U.N. is powerless in any event, Zionist Israel ignores international law and gets away with it because of the U.S. veto.

Here we go again with rat boy making the unsubstantiated anti semitic claims of Israel stealing land. Name one piece of land that Israel has stolen that was not granted to them under International law. What international laws has Israel ignored giving details such as time, date, place, law ignored and date of implementation of said law. As he knows the ICC/ICJ is not covered by the same restrictions as the General Council and so the US does not have a veto on their actions. Now if Israel had been as naughty as he claims they would have faced investigation by the ICC/ICJ and possible charges in open court.


THE FACTS AS DETAILED IN THE UN CHARTER AND THE INTERNATIONAL LAWS MAKE HIM A LIAR AND A PROPAGANDIST

Pheo in 1948 you were happy for UN intervention to create the State of Israel.....yet now you have changed your mind.....You cannot have it both ways,to suit yourself...steve

The UN did not create Israel, the Israelis did. It was only after Britain announced it would withdraw from the Mandate and no other country was willing to take it on that the UNGA passed the Partition resolution which recommended two states, one with a narrow Jewish majority and the second nearly entirely Arab. The UN did not recognize the new state of Israel until it made a deal with Israel in 1949 to admit the state to the UN if Israel would stop pursuing the Arab armies and agree to a truce.

This is not true,the UN passed this resolution in 1948 (Jews lobbied many countries (with bribes $$$$$$$$) to get their vote)....but Israel was not a sovergien sic country because it was not ratified by the Security Council....who finally signed off in late 1949.....Nothing was created by Israel because it had to be endorsed by the UN and ratified by the Security Council.....Your insane comment of "No other country wanted to take it on is putting it kindly,a figment of your imagination........" Tut-Tut,your prose sounds like Zionist Dogma to me.Remember at the time Jews/Israel had no Land to make a country/state out of.It was essentially given to them and the Palestinian population were driven off their Land,Towns and Villages....BY MURDER,DISPLACEMENT and DEDRIGATION.
Some of you Jews /Zionists Synthetico's.......have no idea why there is a schism today..........Israel was made up of Illegal Immigrant Jews from Europe and has continued up until today.....They have as much claim to this part of the world as I have(BUT THE PALESTINIANS DO) if the truth be known....they have absolutely NO LINEAGE TO Abraham(unlike some Shepardic Jews and Palestinians) but most derived from Asiatic Khazaks....who merley converted to Judaism mainly in the 1100-1290 period.Then moved into various parts of Europe and Russia and are known as Ashkenazi sic Jews,in the 1900's onwards they jump at the opportunity to join the weird cult the Zionists

Get you facts right when dealing again with me......I am the Magnificent

..Play Skilfully and Loudly....LOL

 

[Challenger]

It would be nice if we came out and said no foreign aid to either side until you children grow up and figure out your little squabble

If that happened our "Zionist friends" would just sell secret American military technology to the Russians and Chinese and anyone else willing to buy it, to make up any shortfall in aid.

 

[Phoenall]

It would be nice if we came out and said no foreign aid to either side until you children grow up and figure out your little squabble

And Israel would welcome that as it would leave them free to trade with who they want. It would also cost America a lot of money in future research and development costs when Israel is not shouldering 90% of them

Great then they should push for it to happen.

Why ?

You act like you didn't just make a great argument for it

I didnt I just said that Israel would welcome being freed from the shackles placed on them by the USA, or more precisely the real government of the USA.

 

[Phoenall]

Why, because it is Apartheid? What other country keeps millions of people under occupation and oppressed because they aren't of a particular religion, you ignorant piece of crap.

The Vatican of course, or didnt you realise that.


The arab muslims can be freed from the occupation at any time by simply laying down their arms for 12 months. Dont you read the links given on here detailing the law of occupation, and how the arab muslims can stop the occupation and blockade using international law.

Very simple to do and yet the arab muslims always try violence as an answer because of the propaganda value.



Still waiting for you to produce one act of apartheid by Israel, are you that much of a coward that you have to ignore people who put you on the spot ?

 

[Phoenall]

The Israelis have got away with the murder of Palestinian children and families for decades due to American funding and political cover by vetoes at the UN Security Council. No-one is holding his breath waiting for an American president to do anything that would displease the Israelis.

Can you prove your malicious and racist claims of murder then, if you can then why havent you taken your case to the UN and produced your evidence there. It is your right you know to be heard and your concerns taken on board. Or is it just another case of LIES and FABRICATIONS to demonise the Jews hoping to raise enough anger to see them wiped out.

The US has no veto in the ICC/ICJ and so cant stop them investigating your complaints, but you will be named and shamed if you are found to be lying

 

[Phoenall]

Would be a nice parting gesture on President Obama's part; some way towards actually earning his Nobel prize. Still nothing will happen, the Zionist entity has never wanted peace since before it's inception, it needs conflict so it can steal more land with impunity. The U.N. is powerless in any event, Zionist Israel ignores international law and gets away with it because of the U.S. veto.

Here we go again with rat boy making the unsubstantiated anti semitic claims of Israel stealing land. Name one piece of land that Israel has stolen that was not granted to them under International law. What international laws has Israel ignored giving details such as time, date, place, law ignored and date of implementation of said law. As he knows the ICC/ICJ is not covered by the same restrictions as the General Council and so the US does not have a veto on their actions. Now if Israel had been as naughty as he claims they would have faced investigation by the ICC/ICJ and possible charges in open court.


THE FACTS AS DETAILED IN THE UN CHARTER AND THE INTERNATIONAL LAWS MAKE HIM A LIAR AND A PROPAGANDIST

Pheo in 1948 you were happy for UN intervention to create the State of Israel.....yet now you have changed your mind.....You cannot have it both ways,to suit yourself...steve

When have I ever said that then, as I repeatedly state the UN did not have the remit to create Israel, that was done by the Jews following the procedure as laid down in international law. The same procedure that the arab muslims start and stop all the time. The only UN intervention was whan they called a halt to the rout of the arab league armies by Jewish farmers fighting with shotguns, garden tools and tractors

 

[Phoenall]

Why, because it is Apartheid? What other country keeps millions of people under occupation and oppressed because they aren't of a particular religion, you ignorant piece of crap.

Again, nothing but ignorance and bigotry in your post. Try thinking once in a while instead of just spitting out slogans you don't even understand.

Rubbish...it is you that speaks with a forked teongue

Then provide the evidence of the acts of apartheid by Israel inside its borders. If it happens in "palestine" then it is an act by the P.A.

Again with the mangling of the English language, learn how to use the spell checker

 

[Phoenall]

Would be a nice parting gesture on President Obama's part; some way towards actually earning his Nobel prize. Still nothing will happen, the Zionist entity has never wanted peace since before it's inception, it needs conflict so it can steal more land with impunity. The U.N. is powerless in any event, Zionist Israel ignores international law and gets away with it because of the U.S. veto.

Here we go again with rat boy making the unsubstantiated anti semitic claims of Israel stealing land. Name one piece of land that Israel has stolen that was not granted to them under International law. What international laws has Israel ignored giving details such as time, date, place, law ignored and date of implementation of said law. As he knows the ICC/ICJ is not covered by the same restrictions as the General Council and so the US does not have a veto on their actions. Now if Israel had been as naughty as he claims they would have faced investigation by the ICC/ICJ and possible charges in open court.


THE FACTS AS DETAILED IN THE UN CHARTER AND THE INTERNATIONAL LAWS MAKE HIM A LIAR AND A PROPAGANDIST

Pheo in 1948 you were happy for UN intervention to create the State of Israel.....yet now you have changed your mind.....You cannot have it both ways,to suit yourself...steve

The UN did not create Israel, the Israelis did. It was only after Britain announced it would withdraw from the Mandate and no other country was willing to take it on that the UNGA passed the Partition resolution which recommended two states, one with a narrow Jewish majority and the second nearly entirely Arab. The UN did not recognize the new state of Israel until it made a deal with Israel in 1949 to admit the state to the UN if Israel would stop pursuing the Arab armies and agree to a truce.

This is not true,the UN passed this resolution in 1948 (Jews lobbied many countries (with bribes $$$$$$$$) to get their vote)....but Israel was not a sovergien sic country because it was not ratified by the Security Council....who finally signed off in late 1949.....Nothing was created by Israel because it had to be endorsed by the UN and ratified by the Security Council.....Your insane comment of "No other country wanted to take it on is putting it kindly,a figment of your imagination........" Tut-Tut,your prose sounds like Zionist Dogma to me.

What resolution was this then, do give the details so we can all have a laugh at your idiocy and stupidity. In 1949 when the UN accepted Israel as a stand alone nation might be the resolution you mean.
It did not need to be ratified by the Security Council as it was not a security council matter.
No other nation stepped forward to take over the mandate when Britain left because of arab violence and terrorism, so it was left to the UN to take up the slack.

Your posts are sounding more and more like the insane ramblings of an immature schoolboy who has come across a hate site and is trying to look big in front of his friends. Very much insane ramblings from a diseased mind

 

[Phoenall]

Would be a nice parting gesture on President Obama's part; some way towards actually earning his Nobel prize. Still nothing will happen, the Zionist entity has never wanted peace since before it's inception, it needs conflict so it can steal more land with impunity. The U.N. is powerless in any event, Zionist Israel ignores international law and gets away with it because of the U.S. veto.

Here we go again with rat boy making the unsubstantiated anti semitic claims of Israel stealing land. Name one piece of land that Israel has stolen that was not granted to them under International law. What international laws has Israel ignored giving details such as time, date, place, law ignored and date of implementation of said law. As he knows the ICC/ICJ is not covered by the same restrictions as the General Council and so the US does not have a veto on their actions. Now if Israel had been as naughty as he claims they would have faced investigation by the ICC/ICJ and possible charges in open court.


THE FACTS AS DETAILED IN THE UN CHARTER AND THE INTERNATIONAL LAWS MAKE HIM A LIAR AND A PROPAGANDIST

Pheo in 1948 you were happy for UN intervention to create the State of Israel.....yet now you have changed your mind.....You cannot have it both ways,to suit yourself...steve

The UN did not create Israel, the Israelis did. It was only after Britain announced it would withdraw from the Mandate and no other country was willing to take it on that the UNGA passed the Partition resolution which recommended two states, one with a narrow Jewish majority and the second nearly entirely Arab. The UN did not recognize the new state of Israel until it made a deal with Israel in 1949 to admit the state to the UN if Israel would stop pursuing the Arab armies and agree to a truce.

This is not true,the UN passed this resolution in 1948 (Jews lobbied many countries (with bribes $$$$$$$$) to get their vote)....but Israel was not a sovergien sic country because it was not ratified by the Security Council....who finally signed off in late 1949.....Nothing was created by Israel because it had to be endorsed by the UN and ratified by the Security Council.....Your insane comment of "No other country wanted to take it on is putting it kindly,a figment of your imagination........" Tut-Tut,your prose sounds like Zionist Dogma to me.Remember at the time Jews/Israel had no Land to make a country/state out of.It was essentially given to them and the Palestinian population were driven off their Land,Towns and Villages....BY MURDER,DISPLACEMENT and DEDRIGATION.
Some of you Jews /Zionists Synthetico's.......have no idea why there is a schism today..........Israel was made up of Illegal Immigrant Jews from Europe and has continued up until today.....They have as much claim to this part of the world as I have(BUT THE PALESTINIANS DO) if the truth be known....they have absolutely NO LINEAGE TO Abraham(unlike some Shepardic Jews and Palestinians) but most derived from Asiatic Khazaks....who merley converted to Judaism mainly in the 1100-1290 period.Then moved into various parts of Europe and Russia and are known as Ashkenazi sic Jews,in the 1900's onwards they jump at the opportunity to join the weird cult the Zionists

Get you facts right when dealing again with me......I am the Magnificent

..Play Skilfully and Loudly....LOL

Do explain how the Jews are illegal immigrants when the lands legal sovereign owners invited them to migrate and close colonise palestine ?

Then find a mention of these legendary khazars before the middle of the 20C when they were invented


YOU ARE NOTHING BUT AN IMMATURE HORMONAL PETULANT SCHOOLCHILD

 

[Phoenall]

It would be nice if we came out and said no foreign aid to either side until you children grow up and figure out your little squabble

If that happened our "Zionist friends" would just sell secret American military technology to the Russians and Chinese and anyone else willing to buy it, to make up any shortfall in aid.

And you can prove this conclusively, or is it just another example of your anti semitic LIES