US auto industry kaputz???

[Working Man]

Remember when I posted my thoughts on where the US auto makers were going, financially??? What did I say about out sourcing jobs??

Now look at the current ratings of GM/Ford stocks.... vis a vis the Delphi situation...


CUT THE GIMMICKS YOU MORONS!!!

Put a 10 year 120,000 mile warranty, a real warranty, on you vehicles. PROVE to us the you are serious about your "professional grade" designs/offerings..

The Japs are moving in, with a vengence, by offering their full size powerfull trucks. AND,,,,Toyota is kicking your asses with their vehicle ratings..

I did get a kick out of Mercedes Benz's ratings for reliabilty in the 2005 Consumer Reports survey....ooops!!!

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Remember when I posted my thoughts on where the US auto makers were going, financially??? What did I say about out sourcing jobs??

Now look at the current ratings of GM/Ford stocks.... vis a vis the Delphi situation...


CUT THE GIMMICKS YOU MORONS!!!

Put a 10 year 120,000 mile warranty, a real warranty, on you vehicles. PROVE to us the you are serious about your "professional grade" designs/offerings..

The Japs are moving in, with a vengence, by offering their full size powerfull trucks. AND,,,,Toyota is kicking your asses with their vehicle ratings..

I did get a kick out of Mercedes Benz's ratings for reliabilty in the 2005 Consumer Reports survey....ooops!!!

They can't afford to because of the unions. That and the Iacocca "only buy American" campaign encouraged passive design.

 

[5stringJeff]

Dump the autoworkers unions, and dump the steelworkers unions, and maybe the Big 3 could put out an affordable car.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

Dump the autoworkers unions, and dump the steelworkers unions, and maybe the Big 3 could put out an affordable car.

Dump the whole thing. The American design process results in such a neutered car, a big shake-up is needed. Doing what you suggest would be a nice start, at least.

 

[Mr. P]

Remember when I posted my thoughts on where the US auto makers were going, financially??? What did I say about out sourcing jobs??

Now look at the current ratings of GM/Ford stocks.... vis a vis the Delphi situation...


CUT THE GIMMICKS YOU MORONS!!!

Put a 10 year 120,000 mile warranty, a real warranty, on you vehicles. PROVE to us the you are serious about your "professional grade" designs/offerings..

The Japs are moving in, with a vengence, by offering their full size powerfull trucks. AND,,,,Toyota is kicking your asses with their vehicle ratings.. So is Nissan. This is news to you? Man, it's been going on for 25 years.

I did get a kick out of Mercedes Benz's ratings for reliabilty in the 2005 Consumer Reports survey....ooops!!!Their ooops, was teaming up with an American auto company. I have an ML320 made/assembled in Alabama, and in my opinion it's a piece of shit. I'll never buy another.

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[archangel]

I still buy American autos regardless of unions...I do however buy and restore older classics which hold their value...rather than buy Japanese or German autos...The parts are a little suspicious when rebuilding... unless you can find a wharehouse that holds original parts...hard to do but quite possible!
This is just me...I prefer to support the home front!

 

[The ClayTaurus]

I still buy American autos regardless of unions...I do however buy and restore older classics which hold their value...rather than buy Japanese or German autos...The parts are a little suspicious when rebuilding... unless you can find a wharehouse that holds original parts...hard to do but quite possible!
This is just me...I prefer to support the home front!

That's a bit...socialist...

 

[archangel]

That's a bit...socialist...

I'm just a super patriot..can't help myself!

 

[Mr. P]

I'm just a super patriot..can't help myself!

IMO, patriotic has nothing to do with buying a Shit product. But everything to do with NOT buying it so it will improve and benefit the Country.

 

[The ClayTaurus]

I'm just a super patriot..can't help myself!

But you do realize that discourages growth and creativity? When you guarantee the US automaker that you will always buy from them regardless of how they compare to foreign automakers, you will always end up with a piece of shit car that rusts. They have no financial need to compete globally, and you suffer as a result. The good old days where everyone did things out of the goodness of their own hearts are gone. It's all about the money.

 

[archangel]

IMO, patriotic has nothing to do with buying a Shit product. But everything to do with NOT buying it so it will improve and benefit the Country.

This was just my opinion...nothing else..I am a wee bit old fashioned..I do not buy new autos from the US or Europe for that matter...just me! Oh and I sent ya a pm about a P-51!

 

[archangel]

But you do realize that discourages growth and creativity? When you guarantee the US automaker that you will always buy from them regardless of how they compare to foreign automakers, you will always end up with a piece of shit car that rusts. They have no financial need to compete globally, and you suffer as a result. The good old days where everyone did things out of the goodness of their own hearts are gone. It's all about the money.

I buy older US products and restore them for a profit...capitalist okay! and the product will only increase in value...so what is wrong with being a patriot and capitalist at the same time...doh! and I love the oldies....so what?

 

[The ClayTaurus]

I buy older US products and restore them for a profit...capitalist okay! and the product will only increase in value...so what is wrong with being a patriot and capitalist at the same time...doh! and I love the oldies....so what?

Buying classics has nothing to do with today's current automarket, so I guess I don't see the relevancy of posting that in this thread. I might come see you, though, when I'm looking for a deal on a Charger

Do you agree, however, that when it comes to new cars, or really anything, buying on country lines is a recipe for sub-par quality?

 

[archangel]

Buying classics has nothing to do with today's current automarket, so I guess I don't see the relevancy of posting that in this thread. I might come see you, though, when I'm looking for a deal on a Charger

Do you agree, however, that when it comes to new cars, or really anything, buying on country lines is a recipe for sub-par quality?

If we all did what I do maybe they...being US auto makers... would get the messgage to return to the days of our auto superiority...just my opinion mind ya...and I do not do Chargers...the last product I did from Chrysler was a Duster 318 and a Road Runner...besides restoring my Jeep Cherokee limited(89) 4x4 4.0 liter straight fuel injected six...this was pre Canada takeover mind ya!

 

[The ClayTaurus]

If we all did what I do maybe they...being US auto makers... would get the messgage to return to the days of our auto superiority...just my opinion mind ya...and I do not do Chargers...the last product I did from Chrysler was a Duster 318 and a Road Runner...besides restoring my Jeep Cherokee limited(89) 4x4 4.0 liter straight fuel injected six...this was pre Canada takeover mind ya!

Everyone should just stop buying new cars altogether?

 

[archangel]

Everyone should just stop buying new cars altogether?

This is just my opinion mind ya..but hell ya..until US auto makers go back to the days of a superior product that we all could enjoy and afford! :2guns:

 

[The ClayTaurus]

This is just my opinion mind ya..but hell ya..until US auto makers go back to the days of a superior product that we all could enjoy and afford! :2guns:

I know it's just your opinion, I'm just curious about it. If you don't want me to ask you questions about it, why do you post then?

So buying a foreign car is unpatriotic, in your opinion?

 

[archangel]

I know it's just your opinion, I'm just curious about it. If you don't want me to ask you questions about it, why do you post then?

So buying a foreign car is unpatriotic, in your opinion?

I said "I" only buy US products...sorry can't trap a old fart!

 

[The ClayTaurus]

I said "I" only buy US products...sorry can't trap a old fart!

Arch, simple question:

Is it unpatriotic for an American to buy a foreign car, in your opinion? Yes, or no?

 

[archangel]

Arch, simple question:

Is it unpatriotic for an American to buy a foreign car, in your opinion? Yes, or no?

I fell into this trap myself over the years...even bought Japanese autos..they are of a great copy product...In my more sensitive years I choose to support the bringing back of US Superiority...thats all! :2guns: