Until Blacks Have 13 Perecent of the Wealth in America, There is no Equality.

[Captain Caveman]

I think whites need to stop talking about people sitting with cap in hand. In the last century alone whites were handed the equivalent of over 1 quintillion dollars in handouts from the government.

Black Reparations for Twentieth Century Federal Housing Discrimination: The Construction of White Wealth and the Effects of Denied Black Homeownership

This year marks the 400th anniversary of the first documented arrival of Africans to the United States, which resulted in the enslavement of approximately 4 mil

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You need to put your race away and get off your backside. You're the victim of your own actions.

 

[evelynzlon]

no, we got freedom in 1776

which we fought and died for

read a book IM2

~S~

White Americans got freedom in 1776 but this includes the freedom to convert America back to a de facto British colony. Traditionally England was extremely socioeconomically stratified. Inevitably the American rich kept further promoting their own economic interests til America worked its way around to a feudal economy. Even poor whites are still free by comparison to blacks. Therefore most working class whites have come to cooperate with this one percentism. Genocide is not in the works for them. They're not the ones who are careening in the direction of abject destitution.

 

[evelynzlon]

White Americans got freedom in 1776 but this includes the freedom to convert America back to a de facto British colony. Traditionally England was extremely socioeconomically stratified. Inevitably the American rich kept further promoting their own economic interests til America worked its way around to a feudal economy. Even poor whites are still free by comparison to blacks. Therefore most working class whites have come to cooperate with this one percentism. Genocide is not in the works for them. They're not the ones who are careening in the direction of abject destitution.

P.S. Civil rights policies are not necessarily prohibitive of abject destitution and genocide. It depends on the actual monetary values which are attached TO these policies. The American media and educational system does an excellent job of disreminding you to investigate civil rights laws' concrete material value. Equal employment laws are less efficacious than they were in 1964, because the dollar has drastically diminished in purchasing power. However real estate has retained value. The average housing price-to-income ratio has doubled in the past 40 years. Which overwhelmingly favors whites, who largelt acquired free or discounted real estate prior to 1964.

 

[sparky]

White Americans got freedom in 1776 but this includes the freedom to convert America back to a de facto British colony. Traditionally England was extremely socioeconomically stratified. Inevitably the American rich kept further promoting their own economic interests til America worked its way around to a feudal economy. Even poor whites are still free by comparison to blacks. Therefore most working class whites have come to cooperate with this one percentism. Genocide is not in the works for them. They're not the ones who are careening in the direction of abject destitution.

that one percentism has been sucking the life out of the middle class for quite some time evelyn , they're desires are seen via WEF, UN, et all globalist orgs they sit on.

They simply wish to remain the 1%, by whatever means of controlling said worker ants. race ,religion are no more than issues they've managed to divide us with, vs looking up ~S~

 

[Woodznutz]

That's not what happened. Actually there are more black businsses now than in the 1950's. The Green Book still exists. Building freeways and urban renewal killed the black businesses in black communities.

My point is that you had to start over. You can't blame freeways for everything.

 

[Woodznutz]

Since blacks have 4 percent of the weath in 2024 this is not about the past. That bromide is tired and dishonest. But because of what occurred in the past whites have 80 percent of the wealth and blacks 4 percent. So whites need to fix the problem they created and stop telling us about what you think we should do when you don't have the first real clue about us. As for your last sentence, whites are the kings and queens of coveting things that belong to others. So stop pretending that we are living in the past. Once whites end their racism, we can compete equally for weath using the same means.

Black disposable income is over a $Trillion/year. Invest some of it the future.

 

[Woodznutz]

Because we aren't. Why are white tech companies using the H1B Visa to hire Indians with degrees from Universities in India instead of hiring black graduates from universities here?

Again, there was a massive increase in Japanese owned businesses after they got reparations.

We took their businesses away during the war. You gave yours up.

 

[ozro]

I really think that you would not like the outcome of what you propose.

What is it that I want sparky? Because you guys are the ones who have the problems.

You guys are the ones who don't want to take any personal responsibility sparky. You can't see that because you're too immersed in your fake ass white victimhood. Somehow you think you can peddle a story about how you got told you weren't hired because that company had to hire a black person and I am expected to believe that.

All of you chumps have tried pedlling that story and it's a lie. Because if it were true, you coud take rhat cmpaby to court. But whathappened is that a qualified back persin gothired and your racist ass told yourself that lie.

Persina responsibility means that when I see white racism I address it.

It is apparent, not assumed that you don't now your own history.

נאַרישע שוואַרצע וועסטו תּמיד זײַן גאָרנישט נאָר אַ פּיצקע

 

[CrusaderFrank]

That's right. This is .a capitalist system and it appears that equality is tie into the amount if weath a group has.

Blacks are 13 percent of the American people but have 4 percent of the wealth.This did not happen because of laziness. In discussion with some whites about this, you get told about Oprah, Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, or Floyd Mayweather. At the time of this writing, out of nearly 20 million black families, less than 400,000 have a net worth of 1 million dollars. There are only ten black billionaires in America. Their collective worth is just over 31 billion dollars. Contrast that to Elon Musk who is worth over 200 billion dollars by himself. This did not happen because blacks are not interested or have not tried.

Since 1990 racism has cost this country 51 trillion dollars. Our national debt is 35 trillon. Annually our government runs a deficit. The solution according to the right is to cut spending especially for programs that help people in need. But that's not the solution.

Racism Impoverishes the Whole Economy (Published 2020)

While the targets unquestionably suffer the most, denying people equal opportunities diminishes the finances of millions of Americans.

www.nytimes.com

Elon Musk is African

 

[Cougarbear]

Since blacks have 4 percent of the weath in 2024 this is not about the past. That bromide is tired and dishonest. But because of what occurred in the past whites have 80 percent of the wealth and blacks 4 percent. So whites need to fix the problem they created and stop telling us about what you think we should do when you don't have the first real clue about us. As for your last sentence, whites are the kings and queens of coveting things that belong to others. So stop pretending that we are living in the past. Once whites end their racism, we can compete equally for wealth using the same means.

Whites have issues too with the break up of the family. But Blacks in big cities far out weigh whites with Family breakups. Asians stay together better than whites and blacks and are growing in wealth preservation. 45% of blacks live in big city ghettos where a small percentage of fathers live in the home. Fix that and you will see Blacks rise in wealth as well.
Whites are not holding you back. Your attitude sucks and that is what holds you back. Fix your morals concerning your families. As stated, Blacks and whites wealth grew at about the same percentage. These are statistics Black preachers are telling Blacks to fix their families. Not White people. Although, we can read the statistics too. It’s time to stop blaming others. Won’t help. If you try to steal the wealth with reparations, you will start a civil war. It won’t be whites killing whites. It will be Blacks against everyone else. You are being played by the real race baiters and evil Blacks like Harris, Obama, Jeremiah Wright, Sharpton and the rest who use their positions to get wealthy while doing nothing to improve Blacks in large cities. Suburban blacks are doing just fine. Wake up!

 

[IM2]

Whites have issues too with the break up of the family. But Blacks in big cities far out weigh whites with Family breakups. Asians stay together better than whites and blacks and are growing in wealth preservation. 45% of blacks live in big city ghettos where a small percentage of fathers live in the home. Fix that and you will see Blacks rise in wealth as well.
Whites are not holding you back. Your attitude sucks and that is what holds you back. Fix your morals concerning your families. As stated, Blacks and whites wealth grew at about the same percentage. These are statistics Black preachers are telling Blacks to fix their families. Not White people. Although, we can read the statistics too. It’s time to stop blaming others. Won’t help. If you try to steal the wealth with reparations, you will start a civil war. It won’t be whites killing whites. It will be Blacks against everyone else. You are being played by the real race baiters and evil Blacks like Harris, Obama, Jeremiah Wright, Sharpton and the rest who use their positions to get wealthy while doing nothing to improve Blacks in large cities. Suburban blacks are doing just fine. Wake up!

Bullshit. I have been in a long standing relationship with a white woman who used to live in the suburbs but moved into a condo once her kids left for college. And that suburb was full of divorced white women.

You make all the standard racist assumptions. I am 63, own my home and call myself retired although I work on personal projects now. My attitude has allowed me to do a lot of good things. And it is not a bad attitude to refuse to accept racism. You act like you can tell me about what black preachers talk about, but white preachers are telling whites to fix their families too. Black preachers have been the leaders in of attacking white racism.

Your argument about stealing wealth shows your ignorance on the matter of reparations. The case for reparations would be against the governments of this country. So YOUR wealth would not be taken. And since our wealth was stolen and denied by the governments of this country, you have no rational opposition to our demands for reparations. Especially when other groups have received them for things that occurred durng the same time as savery, if you want reduce the demand for reparations only to savery as so many of you right wing idiots do.

The repayment of wages for labor is about more that your individual feelings about soomebody stealing weath. This is a moral and spiritual issue. The bible says pay your servant after 7 years or the lord wil penlaize you. God has given this nation 121 years after slavery ended to pay the wages owed. The lord doesn't care about excuses. The lord has no compunction about punishing generations for sins committed by prior generations. Whites in America have broken spiritual laws and there is a penalty to pay for that. So in truth, it wou be best for the governments of this country to pay reparations than to face the punishement the lord has in store for this country if it is not done. So you can laugh and talk crazy all you want, but in the end if this is not done, you will be crying.

I am old and live comfortably. I have lived 63 years without reparations, but the youngsters growing up have not; they do not deserve to continue living in conditions created by your ancestors and maintained by present generations. So it is time that whites like you shut up. America has lost 51 trillion dollars since 1990 due to the thinking of whites like you. So continue being arrogant and see what you get.

Wealthy white planters invented race in America to control poor whites, who in the beginning had no racism and worked the tobacco fields with blacks as equals. It was weathy whites who through the years have race baited working class whites into a belief of racial superiority in order to control them and to rob them of potential weath. Working class whites have consistently fallen for the white race hustle. You and the other right wing whites here are prime examples of suckers who keep fallling for the white mans race hustle. Donald Trump has been the apex race huckster of all time, yet he has you dumb asses talking about black race baiters. YOU are the one getting played white boy. Keep on supporting the Republican party and trickle down handouts to the very rich.

 

[Woodznutz]

Bullshit. I have been in a long standing relationship with a white woman who used to live in the suburbs but moved into a condo once her kids left for college. And that suburb was full of divorced white women.

• "Black women were the only group that had a higher divorce rate than marriage rate, with nearly 31 divorces per 1,000 married women aged 15 and older and only 17.3 marriages per 1,000 unmarried women."

Add to that the incredible number of black mothers who don't marry the father of their children.

Marriage to Divorce Ratio in the U.S.: Demographic Variation, 2018

Family Profile No. 27, 2019 Author: Valerie Schweizer Marriage to Divorce Ratio in the U.S.: Demographic Variation, 2018 The marriage to divorce ratio was 2.2 in

www.bgsu.edu

 

[IM2]

• "Black women were the only group that had a higher divorce rate than marriage rate, with nearly 31 divorces per 1,000 married women aged 15 and older and only 17.3 marriages per 1,000 unmarried women."

Marriage to Divorce Ratio in the U.S.: Demographic Variation, 2018

Family Profile No. 27, 2019 Author: Valerie Schweizer Marriage to Divorce Ratio in the U.S.: Demographic Variation, 2018 The marriage to divorce ratio was 2.2 in

www.bgsu.edu

And? In 2017, Demos published a study titled, “The Asset Value of Whiteness: Understanding the Racial Wealth Gap.” On page ten, this statement is written:

“The median white single parent has 2.2 times more wealth than the median black two-parent household and 1.9 times more wealth than the median Latino two-parent household.”

None of these off topic racist tropes have anything to do with how blacks are 13 percent of the population with 4 percent of the wealth. And as long as whites like you guys continue looking for excuses instead of denying the role of white racism and working to end it, the necessary processes needed for blacks to get to 13 percent, and for the America economy to begin getting the lost money created because of white racism cannot be done.

 

[martybegan]

If you are going to complain as a community you must act as a community to set things right. As it is you are a fractured community.

it's not that, it's that the ones like IM2 think government can fix it for them instead of them having to do it over multiple generations like the Irish and Italians did.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

Said by a white man who was given unequal preference by the system.

What 'system?'

 

[IM2]

What 'system?'

And here we have a person trying to play dumb.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

I have faced reaity and it's not what you say. I don't need some fucked up, brain dead, convict worshipping Republican right wing b teing me about what Democrats are doing.

It is precisely this level of open-mindedness as to why you will never have 13 'perecent' of this country's wealth. But go on blaming others for your problems...

 

[Dirk the Daring]

And here we have a person trying to play dumb.

'Play?' Ah, a compliment I wasn't expecting. But also, you didn't answer the question I noticed. What system? Whose system? Who created the 'system?' Who runs it? Who maintains it?

 

[Cougarbear]

Bullshit. I have been in a long standing relationship with a white woman who used to live in the suburbs but moved into a condo once her kids left for college. And that suburb was full of divorced white women.

You make all the standard racist assumptions. I am 63, own my home and call myself retired although I work on personal projects now. My attitude has allowed me to do a lot of good things. And it is not a bad attitude to refuse to accept racism. You act like you can tell me about what black preachers talk about, but white preachers are telling whites to fix their families too. Black preachers have been the leaders in of attacking white racism.

Your argument about stealing wealth shows your ignorance on the matter of reparations. The case for reparations would be against the governments of this country. So YOUR wealth would not be taken. And since our wealth was stolen and denied by the governments of this country, you have no rational opposition to our demands for reparations. Especially when other groups have received them for things that occurred durng the same time as savery, if you want reduce the demand for reparations only to savery as so many of you right wing idiots do.

The repayment of wages for labor is about more that your individual feelings about soomebody stealing weath. This is a moral and spiritual issue. The bible says pay your servant after 7 years or the lord wil penlaize you. God has given this nation 121 years after slavery ended to pay the wages owed. The lord doesn't care about excuses. The lord has no compunction about punishing generations for sins committed by prior generations. Whites in America have broken spiritual laws and there is a penalty to pay for that. So in truth, it wou be best for the governments of this country to pay reparations than to face the punishement the lord has in store for this country if it is not done. So you can laugh and talk crazy all you want, but in the end if this is not done, you will be crying.

I am old and live comfortably. I have lived 63 years without reparations, but the youngsters growing up have not; they do not deserve to continue living in conditions created by your ancestors and maintained by present generations. So it is time that whites like you shut up. America has lost 51 trillion dollars since 1990 due to the thinking of whites like you. So continue being arrogant and see what you get.

Wealthy white planters invented race in America to control poor whites, who in the beginning had no racism and worked the tobacco fields with blacks as equals. It was weathy whites who through the years have race baited working class whites into a belief of racial superiority in order to control them and to rob them of potential weath. Working class whites have consistently fallen for the white race hustle. You and the other right wing whites here are prime examples of suckers who keep fallling for the white mans race hustle. Donald Trump has been the apex race huckster of all time, yet he has you dumb asses talking about black race baiters. YOU are the one getting played white boy. Keep on supporting the Republican party and trickle down handouts to the very rich.

Paragraph 1. Why would you have a relationship with a racist?
Paragraph 2. I'm not racist. No assumptions either. Fatherless homes in the cities is well substantiated to be much more than whites. I would think as you get to the suburbs that the numbers of fatherless homes goes down substantially as the education level goes up. Also, the need for Democrat chains of welfare go way down as well. And, let's remember what Democrats run the big cities, Black politicians for the most part. Welfare and abortions are just another way to put you all back into chains, as Joe Biden would say it. And, yes, white preachers certainly preach against divorce and evil of all manner too. So what?
Paragraph 3. Do you know how governments get their money? It's called taxation. All forms of taxation as well. So, how will you make sure my wealth isn't stolen through taxation of all sorts including property taxation? Are you going to also require Blacks to pay taxation for the reparations? And, how about all the people who were not here in America during all the so called stealing of Black's wealth or whatever? Do they have to pay? Recent immigrants from Europe or anywhere for that matter? And, who gets the reparations?
Now, you claim to say the Lord will penalize those if they aren't paid? You think he was talking about reparations? LOL! He was talking about judgment day.
And, back to the nonsense that Blacks can't live and be successful because of something that happened hundreds of years ago. You made it. at least half made it of the 13%. Now, if your Democrat friends would get out of government so we can unshackle the chains of welfare, crime and victimhood mentality, the other 45% can begin to find freedom and wealth too without drugs, prostitution and the other crimes of gangs and the ghettos.

 

[IM2]

It is precisely this level of open-mindedness as to why you will never have 13 'perecent' of this country's wealth. But go on blaming others for your problems...

No, it really isn't. Why should we listen to people teling us how to do things when they didn't do the things the way they tell us? You guys really need to quit gaslighting because you look stupid given all the documentation that shows us what whites have done and how whites continue doing much of the same things.