Understanding Rebellion

[buckeye45_73]

Communism failed only because it had flaws, those flaws were humans....
History holds testament of the failed social and political methods humans have tried since the agriculture revolution, none have proven to be everlasting and all fulfilling to those that practice existence in society..

No....that isn't why it failed. It failed because capitalism works.

1. "Marxism rested on the assumption that the condition of the working classes would grow ever worse under capitalism, that there would be but two classes: one small and rich, the other vast and increasingly impoverished, and revolution would be the anodyne that would result in the “common good.”

But by the early 20th century, it was clear that this assumption was completely wrong! Under capitalism, the standard of living of all was improving: prices falling, incomes rising, health and sanitation improving, lengthening of life spans, diets becoming more varied, the new jobs created in industry paid more than most could make in agriculture, housing improved, and middle class industrialists and business owners displaced nobility and gentry as heroes."
From a speech by Rev. Robert A. Sirico, President, Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty.
Delivered at Hillsdale College, October 27, 2006



2. No matter how many they killed.....
“Culture is a stubborn opponent. The Soviet Union attempted to create the New Soviet Man with gulags, psychiatric hospitals, and firing squads for seventy years and succeeded only in producing a more corrupt culture.”
Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 198

Liberals have no clue about conditions, they just have envy and if person x has a yacht, I should have one, that's why I love the Cadillac commercial.
Some work, some take vacation. It's a choice, those that work will get ahead and I don't fault them or blame them for it.

 

[Moonglow]

The names above, representing every Leftist revolution, are responsible for the slaughter of well over one million human beings.

The Liberal/Progressive/Democrat party has endorsed the very platform of the communist party, CPUSA.

At one time more than a million people were killed over the mere fact that you were either a Roman Catholic or a Protestant. The right and the religious hold no exception to the useless slaughter and destruction at the hands of humans...

Do your history books not go back further than that. I am referencing the era of the reformation, during the Renaissance..to the 18th century...

Why, exactly, are you attempting to bring up the above Christians?

Where do you see that provenance in the following?

First World War (1914–18): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 million
Russian Civil War (1917–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 million
Soviet Union, Stalin’s regime (1924–53): . . . . . . . . . 20 million
Second World War (1937–45): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55 million
Chinese Civil War (1945–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.5 million
People’s Republic of China, Mao Zedong’s
regime (1949–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 million
Tibet (1950 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600,000
Congo Free State (1886–1908): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 million
Mexico (1910–20): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Turkish massacres of Armenians (1915–23): . . . . . 1.5 million
China (1917–28): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 800,000
China, Nationalist era (1928–37): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.1 million
Korean War (1950–53): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8 million
North Korea (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 million
Rwanda and Burundi (1959–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.35 million
Second Indochina War (1960–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.5 million
Ethiopia (1962–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Nigeria (1966–70): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Bangladesh (1971): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.25 million
Cambodia, Khmer Rouge (1975–78): . . . . . . . . . . . 1.65 million
Mozambique (1975–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Afghanistan (1979–2001): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.8 million
Iran–Iraq War (1980–88): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Sudan (1983 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.9 million
Kinshasa, Congo (1998 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.8 million
Philippines Insurgency (1899–1902): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 220,000
Brazil (1900 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Amazonia (1900–1912): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Portuguese colonies (1900–1925): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 325,000
French colonies (1900–1940): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Japanese War (1904–5): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000
German East Africa (1905–7): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
Libya (1911–31): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 125,000
Balkan Wars (1912–13): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000
Greco–Turkish War (1919–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Spanish Civil War (1936–39): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 365,000
Franco Regime (1939–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
Abyssinian Conquest (1935–41): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Finnish War (1939–40): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Greek Civil War (1943–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 158,000
Yugoslavia, Tito’s regime (1944–80): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
First Indochina War (1945–54): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Colombia (1946–58): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
India (1947): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Romania (1948–89): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Burma/Myanmar (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000
Algeria (1954–62): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 537,000
Sudan (1955–72): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Guatemala (1960–96): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Indonesia (1965–66): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Uganda, Idi Amin’s regime (1972–79): . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Vietnam, postwar Communist regime
(1975 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 430,000
Angola (1975–2002): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 550,000
East Timor, conquest by Indonesia (1975–99): . . . . . 200,000
Lebanon (1975–90): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Cambodian Civil War (1978–91): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000
Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979–2003): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Uganda (1979–86): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Kurdistan (1980s, 1990s): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Liberia (1989–97): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Iraq (1990– ): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 350,000
Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
Somalia (1991 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
From "The Devil's Delusion," Berlinski

Was the Mongols in the 13th and 14th century left or right leaning???

 

[Moonglow]

Communism failed only because it had flaws, those flaws were humans....
History holds testament of the failed social and political methods humans have tried since the agriculture revolution, none have proven to be everlasting and all fulfilling to those that practice existence in society..

No....that isn't why it failed. It failed because capitalism works.

1. "Marxism rested on the assumption that the condition of the working classes would grow ever worse under capitalism, that there would be but two classes: one small and rich, the other vast and increasingly impoverished, and revolution would be the anodyne that would result in the “common good.”

But by the early 20th century, it was clear that this assumption was completely wrong! Under capitalism, the standard of living of all was improving: prices falling, incomes rising, health and sanitation improving, lengthening of life spans, diets becoming more varied, the new jobs created in industry paid more than most could make in agriculture, housing improved, and middle class industrialists and business owners displaced nobility and gentry as heroes."
From a speech by Rev. Robert A. Sirico, President, Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty.
Delivered at Hillsdale College, October 27, 2006



2. No matter how many they killed.....
“Culture is a stubborn opponent. The Soviet Union attempted to create the New Soviet Man with gulags, psychiatric hospitals, and firing squads for seventy years and succeeded only in producing a more corrupt culture.”
Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 198

Liberals have no clue about conditions, they just have envy and if person x has a yacht, I should have one, that's why I love the Cadillac commercial.
Some work, some take vacation. It's a choice, those that work will get ahead and I don't fault them or blame them for it.

I prefer canoes and chevy pickup trucks with a v-8 turbo, fishing, hunting, growing my own veggies, picking berries, raising pigs and cattle for eatin'....
wouldn't want a yacht,,my wife would, I'd have to do the maintenance and buy the gas, blah
Cadillacs are okay, but a 4 wheeler on a dirt road is better...or a horse..

 

[Little-Acorn]

Where were the Teabaggers screaming for limited government and citizens' rights when Bush signed the USAPATRIOT Act?

Yet another leftist fanatic who, when he's losing the debate, starts to think about lewd sex acts and people's genitals?

Have you sought help?

 

[PoliticalChic]

At one time more than a million people were killed over the mere fact that you were either a Roman Catholic or a Protestant. The right and the religious hold no exception to the useless slaughter and destruction at the hands of humans...

Do your history books not go back further than that. I am referencing the era of the reformation, during the Renaissance..to the 18th century...

Why, exactly, are you attempting to bring up the above Christians?

Where do you see that provenance in the following?

First World War (1914–18): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 million
Russian Civil War (1917–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 million
Soviet Union, Stalin’s regime (1924–53): . . . . . . . . . 20 million
Second World War (1937–45): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55 million
Chinese Civil War (1945–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.5 million
People’s Republic of China, Mao Zedong’s
regime (1949–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 million
Tibet (1950 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600,000
Congo Free State (1886–1908): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 million
Mexico (1910–20): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Turkish massacres of Armenians (1915–23): . . . . . 1.5 million
China (1917–28): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 800,000
China, Nationalist era (1928–37): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.1 million
Korean War (1950–53): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8 million
North Korea (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 million
Rwanda and Burundi (1959–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.35 million
Second Indochina War (1960–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.5 million
Ethiopia (1962–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Nigeria (1966–70): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Bangladesh (1971): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.25 million
Cambodia, Khmer Rouge (1975–78): . . . . . . . . . . . 1.65 million
Mozambique (1975–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Afghanistan (1979–2001): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.8 million
Iran–Iraq War (1980–88): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Sudan (1983 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.9 million
Kinshasa, Congo (1998 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.8 million
Philippines Insurgency (1899–1902): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 220,000
Brazil (1900 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Amazonia (1900–1912): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Portuguese colonies (1900–1925): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 325,000
French colonies (1900–1940): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Japanese War (1904–5): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000
German East Africa (1905–7): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
Libya (1911–31): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 125,000
Balkan Wars (1912–13): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000
Greco–Turkish War (1919–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Spanish Civil War (1936–39): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 365,000
Franco Regime (1939–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
Abyssinian Conquest (1935–41): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Finnish War (1939–40): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Greek Civil War (1943–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 158,000
Yugoslavia, Tito’s regime (1944–80): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
First Indochina War (1945–54): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Colombia (1946–58): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
India (1947): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Romania (1948–89): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Burma/Myanmar (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000
Algeria (1954–62): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 537,000
Sudan (1955–72): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Guatemala (1960–96): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Indonesia (1965–66): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Uganda, Idi Amin’s regime (1972–79): . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Vietnam, postwar Communist regime
(1975 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 430,000
Angola (1975–2002): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 550,000
East Timor, conquest by Indonesia (1975–99): . . . . . 200,000
Lebanon (1975–90): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Cambodian Civil War (1978–91): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000
Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979–2003): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Uganda (1979–86): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Kurdistan (1980s, 1990s): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Liberia (1989–97): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Iraq (1990– ): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 350,000
Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
Somalia (1991 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
From "The Devil's Delusion," Berlinski

Was the Mongols in the 13th and 14th century left or right leaning???

There's a reason why you have no data to support your statement.....


The attempt of the French Revolution, to replace religion with some sort of 'reason' was the basis for the slaughter in every Leftist revolution.
How, more than interesting is it that in this most rational of eras, many who claim to be wedded to reason and liberty, have descended into irrationality and intolerance? The answer is that since the 18th century Enlightenment, many Westerners have made the mistake of believing that reason can exist separate from civilization, and that ‘enlightened’ necessitates a repudiation of religion.


Your attempt to drag in Christianity in the earlier post echoes the above.

 

[Moonglow]

Do your history books not go back further than that. I am referencing the era of the reformation, during the Renaissance..to the 18th century...

Why, exactly, are you attempting to bring up the above Christians?

Where do you see that provenance in the following?

First World War (1914–18): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 million
Russian Civil War (1917–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 million
Soviet Union, Stalin’s regime (1924–53): . . . . . . . . . 20 million
Second World War (1937–45): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55 million
Chinese Civil War (1945–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.5 million
People’s Republic of China, Mao Zedong’s
regime (1949–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 million
Tibet (1950 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600,000
Congo Free State (1886–1908): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 million
Mexico (1910–20): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Turkish massacres of Armenians (1915–23): . . . . . 1.5 million
China (1917–28): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 800,000
China, Nationalist era (1928–37): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.1 million
Korean War (1950–53): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8 million
North Korea (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 million
Rwanda and Burundi (1959–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.35 million
Second Indochina War (1960–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.5 million
Ethiopia (1962–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Nigeria (1966–70): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Bangladesh (1971): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.25 million
Cambodia, Khmer Rouge (1975–78): . . . . . . . . . . . 1.65 million
Mozambique (1975–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Afghanistan (1979–2001): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.8 million
Iran–Iraq War (1980–88): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Sudan (1983 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.9 million
Kinshasa, Congo (1998 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.8 million
Philippines Insurgency (1899–1902): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 220,000
Brazil (1900 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Amazonia (1900–1912): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Portuguese colonies (1900–1925): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 325,000
French colonies (1900–1940): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Japanese War (1904–5): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000
German East Africa (1905–7): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
Libya (1911–31): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 125,000
Balkan Wars (1912–13): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000
Greco–Turkish War (1919–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Spanish Civil War (1936–39): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 365,000
Franco Regime (1939–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
Abyssinian Conquest (1935–41): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Finnish War (1939–40): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Greek Civil War (1943–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 158,000
Yugoslavia, Tito’s regime (1944–80): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
First Indochina War (1945–54): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Colombia (1946–58): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
India (1947): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Romania (1948–89): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Burma/Myanmar (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000
Algeria (1954–62): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 537,000
Sudan (1955–72): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Guatemala (1960–96): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Indonesia (1965–66): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Uganda, Idi Amin’s regime (1972–79): . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Vietnam, postwar Communist regime
(1975 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 430,000
Angola (1975–2002): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 550,000
East Timor, conquest by Indonesia (1975–99): . . . . . 200,000
Lebanon (1975–90): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Cambodian Civil War (1978–91): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000
Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979–2003): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Uganda (1979–86): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Kurdistan (1980s, 1990s): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Liberia (1989–97): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Iraq (1990– ): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 350,000
Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
Somalia (1991 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
From "The Devil's Delusion," Berlinski

Was the Mongols in the 13th and 14th century left or right leaning???

There's a reason why you have no data to support your statement.....

Which one???

 

[PoliticalChic]

Communism failed only because it had flaws, those flaws were humans....
History holds testament of the failed social and political methods humans have tried since the agriculture revolution, none have proven to be everlasting and all fulfilling to those that practice existence in society..

No....that isn't why it failed. It failed because capitalism works.

1. "Marxism rested on the assumption that the condition of the working classes would grow ever worse under capitalism, that there would be but two classes: one small and rich, the other vast and increasingly impoverished, and revolution would be the anodyne that would result in the “common good.”

But by the early 20th century, it was clear that this assumption was completely wrong! Under capitalism, the standard of living of all was improving: prices falling, incomes rising, health and sanitation improving, lengthening of life spans, diets becoming more varied, the new jobs created in industry paid more than most could make in agriculture, housing improved, and middle class industrialists and business owners displaced nobility and gentry as heroes."
From a speech by Rev. Robert A. Sirico, President, Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty.
Delivered at Hillsdale College, October 27, 2006



2. No matter how many they killed.....
“Culture is a stubborn opponent. The Soviet Union attempted to create the New Soviet Man with gulags, psychiatric hospitals, and firing squads for seventy years and succeeded only in producing a more corrupt culture.”
Bork, “Slouching Toward Gomorrah,” p. 198

Liberals have no clue about conditions, they just have envy and if person x has a yacht, I should have one, that's why I love the Cadillac commercial.
Some work, some take vacation. It's a choice, those that work will get ahead and I don't fault them or blame them for it.

I heard Rush speaking about that commercial....I'm gonna have to find it...

Yup....envy seems to be encouraged by the Left.
Both Obama and Pelosi supported OWS



Just saw it......great!
No wonder Liberals get crazy!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Funny.....I just saw this on Drudge:

"Perry: ‘Time for a Little Rebellion’"
“It’s time for a little rebellion on the battlefield of ideas,” the Texas governor said, paraphrasing Thomas Jefferson.
“We don’t have to accept recent history — we just need to change the presidency,” Perry continued. “We must elect the right kind of leaders to represent us to Washington.”
Perry: 'Time for a Little Rebellion' | National Review Online

 

[ScienceRocks]

If we don't slash science, r&d and infrastructure to the bone we're going to rebel and rip this nation to the grown.

Real good plan...Losertrians!

 

[PoliticalChic]

If we don't slash science, r&d and infrastructure to the bone we're going to rebel and rip this nation to the grown.

Real good plan...Losertrians!

Did I mention that you're a moron?

 

[ScienceRocks]

If we don't slash science, r&d and infrastructure to the bone we're going to rebel and rip this nation to the grown.

Real good plan...Losertrians!

Did I mention that you're a moron?

I feel the same about idiots like you with your idiotic plan to turn America into Haiti. You're worse then a moron...******* idiot that is working to destroy our middle class with your idiocy.

Now go back to being a stupid fool that wishes to weaken America!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Your right to revolution is inextricably tied to your willingness to abandon the Constitution,

and no manner of cloaking your abandonment in lofty rationalizations will change the fact that you have abandoned it.

Now, why would you bring up the Constitution?
Are you suggesting that said document is still the law of the land?

The idea that this nation was governed by the Constitution ended with the presidency of Emperor Franklin the First.


In 1935, the Supreme Court upheld the New Deal repudiation of gold payments in government contracts and private contracts .... Justice McReynolds declared in a dissenting opinion that "the Constitution as we have known it is gone." The Brookshire Times ? 1 March 1935 ? Page 2 - Newspapers.com

So what one guy in the dissenting opinion said is how we decide what the Constitution says?

I think you have your thinking cap on inside-out.

 

[NYcarbineer]

[

It failed because capitalism works.

Something you and capitalism don't have in common.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If we don't slash science, r&d and infrastructure to the bone we're going to rebel and rip this nation to the grown.

Real good plan...Losertrians!

Did I mention that you're a moron?

I feel the same about idiots like you with your idiotic plan to turn America into Haiti. You're worse then a moron...******* idiot that is working to destroy our middle class with your idiocy.

Now go back to being a stupid fool that wishes to weaken America!

Now I see why folks say "Profanity is the effort of a feeble mind to express itself forcefully."



Intellectually, you are the equivalent of a Bathysphere at the bottom of the Marianas Trench.



Is it true your family crest has TV remote on it?



So....it seems when I mention that you're a moron....you immediately imagine something to do with Haiti?
Do you ever have a thought that smacks of reality?
Do you ever have a thought?



And you're still a moron. Kinda goes with your name, huh?


"Matthew the Moron".....catchy. Bet ya' got a lot of that in grade school.



Hey....can I just call you M & M???

 

[PoliticalChic]

[

It failed because capitalism works.

Something you and capitalism don't have in common.

Another moron checks in.


I may have mentioned, I work at Stark Industries.
I'm in mergers and acquisitions......I mean murders and executions.



BTW.....you'd be well advised to leave the witty repartee to me.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Your right to revolution is inextricably tied to your willingness to abandon the Constitution,

and no manner of cloaking your abandonment in lofty rationalizations will change the fact that you have abandoned it.

Now, why would you bring up the Constitution?
Are you suggesting that said document is still the law of the land?

The idea that this nation was governed by the Constitution ended with the presidency of Emperor Franklin the First.


In 1935, the Supreme Court upheld the New Deal repudiation of gold payments in government contracts and private contracts .... Justice McReynolds declared in a dissenting opinion that "the Constitution as we have known it is gone." The Brookshire Times ? 1 March 1935 ? Page 2 - Newspapers.com

So what one guy in the dissenting opinion said is how we decide what the Constitution says?

I think you have your thinking cap on inside-out.

"...one guy...."????

So...you imagine some sort of equivalency....with you?


Let's explore that:


1. James Clark McReynolds (February 3, 1862 – August 24, 1946) was an American lawyer and judge who served as United States Attorney General under President Woodrow Wilson and as an Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
James Clark McReynolds - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


2. Then there's you:
I'm certain it's at the least, Ph.D.!

But, in your case it stands for pizza handling dude.



Yeah.....equivalent.

 

[NightFox]

Your right to revolution is inextricably tied to your willingness to abandon the Constitution,

and no manner of cloaking your abandonment in lofty rationalizations will change the fact that you have abandoned it.

Now, why would you bring up the Constitution?

Er.. that's what happens when you talk above it's head and confuse it with reason and evidence, in other words it's completely random response is YOUR FAULT since your posts stimulated it's pre-programmed, partisan propaganda response mechanism (see PAVALOV'S DOGS) .

Next time bust out the crayons, coloring books and a stack of "Staying on Topic for Slow Folk" if you want to get your point across to the gub'mint worshippers, either that or be prepared to wave about a pair of hyperpartisan pom-poms and shout vapid slogans for an hour and a half.

Anyways well done posts PoliticalChic, even if the peanut gallery missed your points.

 

[JiggsCasey]

This thread appears as yet another desperate effort by modern cons to distance themselves from the legacy of fascism. Unfortunately, the modern con and fascism are intrisically linked, and that includes (especially) the crazy new wing of the right that has taken over libertarianism and made it their own. They love pre-emptive war; real libertarians don't.

Connotations change with time. Heck, there was once a time when the Democratic Party was mired in bigotry and separation. Now, that's generally accepted as a characteristic of the common Republican voter.

What matters is which party most resembles fascism TODAY? ... By that criteria, if Moussolini called his pet ideology the "perfect merger of the corporation and the state," which modern U.S. party salivates more for the state mandated personhood of corporations? Oops. I think we all know the answer to that question.

Reviewing Umberto Eco's main tenets of fascism, it's undoubtedly modern cons who exhibit them all
Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt

Fervent nationalism? Without a doubt
Cult of tradition? Yup
Xenophobia? OMG, yes
Pacifism as the enemy? Check
Contempt for the weak? Jeezus, just look at the food stamp debate, among countless other examples...
I'm the hero!/Sexual domination? gunz > love... "women should learn to take it," etc.
Unabashed Newspeak worship? LOL, yes... what are our Fox News marching orders today?

yeah, cons can pretend fascism is a leftist characteristic because Benito "started as a commie" and the Nazis had "national socialist" in their dogma. But they're not fooling anyone. It's a function of right wing ideology. Period. End of story.

Ever wonder why there where no HUAC hearings on FASCISTS infiltrating the United States during the McCarthy era? The reason is stunningly obvious. Many of them were the ones trotting African-American secretaries and custodial workers in front of the cameras for Red Scare humiliation. Asking big business CEOs and lawmakers about potential fascism in America? Hell, that would create a hostile working environment. We can't have that.

"Fascism didn't lose the second world war. It merely changed venues." - author unknown

 

[PoliticalChic]

This thread appears as yet another desperate effort by modern cons to distance themselves from the legacy of fascism. Unfortunately, the modern con and fascism are intrisically linked, and that includes (especially) the crazy new wing of the right that has taken over libertarianism and made it their own. They love pre-emptive war; real libertarians don't.

Connotations change with time. Heck, there was once a time when the Democratic Party was mired in bigotry and separation. Now, that's generally accepted as a characteristic of the common Republican voter.

What matters is which party most resembles fascism TODAY? ... By that criteria, if Moussolini called his pet ideology the "perfect merger of the corporation and the state," which modern U.S. party salivates more for the state mandated personhood of corporations? Oops. I think we all know the answer to that question.

Reviewing Umberto Eco's main tenets of fascism, it's undoubtedly modern cons who exhibit them all
Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt

Fervent nationalism? Without a doubt
Cult of tradition? Yup
Xenophobia? OMG, yes
Pacifism as the enemy? Check
Contempt for the weak? Jeezus, just look at the food stamp debate, among countless other examples...
I'm the hero!/Sexual domination? gunz > love... "women should learn to take it," etc.
Unabashed Newspeak worship? LOL, yes... what are our Fox News marching orders today?

yeah, cons can pretend fascism is a leftist characteristic because Benito "started as a commie" and the Nazis had "national socialist" in their dogma. But they're not fooling anyone. It's a function of right wing ideology. Period. End of story.

Ever wonder why there where no HUAC hearings on FASCISTS infiltrating the United States during the McCarthy era? The reason is stunningly obvious. Many of them were the ones trotting African-American secretaries and custodial workers in front of the cameras for Red Scare humiliation. Asking big business CEOs and lawmakers about potential fascism in America? Hell, that would create a hostile working environment. We can't have that.

"Fascism didn't lose the second world war. It merely changed venues." - author unknown

Nothing identifies a government school grad more than a post like yours.



I have the feeling that you are ineducable....but, ever the optimist.....take notes on the following:


1. There is nary a difference between Nazis and communists. Both have the same provenance, and both have the same result.


a. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.
(Article itself provided - The Soviet Story (Docu) - Full Movie / English - LivingScoop)


b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.


c. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists." Vladimir Bukovsky.






2. History proves that FDR and Stalin were two peas in a pod, but let's add the fact that Hitler, Mussolini, and Roosevelt shared views and policies. When you learn to read, pick up a copy of "Three New Deals," Wolfgang Schivelbusch

a. The current narrative is geared toward minimizing the relationship between Roosevelt’s New Deal, and that of Mussolini and of Hitler…and that only due to the exigencies of the Second World War did it become necessary for Roosevelt to assume extreme powers identified with those of the other two regimes.

b. The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”

And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’

c. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”

d. Mussolini wrote a book review of Roosevelt’s “Looking Forward,” in which he said “…[as] Roosevelt here calls his readers to battle, is reminiscent of the ways and means by which Fascism awakened the Italian people.” Popolo d’Italia, July 7, 1933.






3. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution,"p. 48



So you can see, it is the Left that attempts to run from their fascist, Nazi, communist background.
And turns out morons like you, who believe it.




Let's Review:

"This thread appears as yet another desperate effort by modern cons to distance themselves from the legacy of fascism."

First, the siblings are fascism, communism, Progressivism, Liberalism, etc.

Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, and, yes, Roosevelt, shared many beliefs.



Secondly, you have catapulted yourself way, way up into the lead as one of the most stupid poster on the board.
Bravo!




I'd like to leave you with one more thought....although it doesn't seem as though you have any place to put it.....

Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred.

A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right. WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010

 

[PoliticalChic]

8. More evidence of German philosophy as the basis of Leftwing thinking?
Right here:

The nexus of Liberalism, Progressivism, conservationism, Hegel and communism can be found in the work of Ernst Haeckel.


In science, the straight line goes from Hegel to Ernst Haeckel, the man who coined the word ‘ecology.’

a. One spin-off of the Enlightenment was the desire to find new myths that would transcend daily existence and take one to a higher level of purification.
Proto-fascist, and founder of ecology, Ernst Haeckel, invested nature-worship with the belief that all matter was alive and possessed mental attributes. In ‘monism,’ he brought together hostility to Christianity and propaganda for Darwinism, a nature cult and theories of hygiene and selective breeding.
J.W. Burrow, “The Crisis of Reason: European Thought, 1848-1914,” p. 218-19



b. Hegel to Haeckel to Hitler, or Marx and Engels to Soviet science or Nazi science. Both forms are corruptions of science.

c. Haeckel believed in nordic racial superiority, strenuously opposed race mixing and enthusiastically supported racial eugenics. Haeckel contributed to that special variety of German thought which served as the seed bed for National Socialism. He became one of Germany's major ideologists for racism, nationalism and imperialism…he fulminated in antisemitic tones…played a key role in the establishment of the Nazi movement.”
Eco Fascism / Fascist Ideology : the Green Wing of the Nazi Party and Its Historical Antecedents by Peter Staudenmaier



Anyone with an education can see the link to the above, and the Progressive polices of eugenics.