Under Trump, things are getting out of hand. Much of what he promised has worked the opposite way.

[Darlo kittu]

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No, Papageorgio was talking to one of the board's worst leftist trolls in that exchange.

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My bad

Thanks

 

[Papageorgio]

You are a typical arrogant liberal. You put on a show like most who only want to have a discussion and conversation on the issues

Provided everyone agrees with you and never disagrees with you. In reality your sneer lights up every room you strut into. You are nothing more then a gentle ray of sun stroke

That’s funny because most people here tell me I am a MAGA conservative. I wish you people would make up your mind.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

That’s funny because most people here tell me I am a MAGA conservative. I wish you people would make up your mind.

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No, that poster was misinformed and has been set straight in post #301.

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[Darlo kittu]

That’s funny because most people here tell me I am a MAGA conservative. I wish you people would make up your mind.

If you would look up I admitted I was in error

My apologies

 

[Papageorgio]

If you would look up I admitted I was in error

My apologies

All good, I don’t read every post, my apologies for not catching it.

 

[Darlo kittu]

All good, I don’t read every post, my apologies for not catching it.

No problem my friend

 

[Orangecat]

But was there intent to hit?

I believe there wasn’t intent to hit. However, much like a drunk driver that kills someone in an accident, the lack of intent doesn’t absolve one of responsibility for the poor decisions preceding the incident.

 

[Papageorgio]

I believe there wasn’t intent to hit. However, much like a drunk driver that kills someone in an accident, the lack of intent doesn’t absolve one of responsibility for the poor decisions preceding the incident.

The issue is, she refused an order to get out of the vehicle, she then started to move the vehicle slowly forward and would have hit the ICE agent, had he not moved. So did the officer believe his life could have been in danger? It seems like a reasonable assumption but that is my take of a few videos.

 

[flack]

 

[Mack The Finger]

by the way and adding to the OP,

As soon as she put the car in R and moved...she committed a felony.

Look it up...retard !

 

[Luckyone]

As soon as she put the car in R and moved...she committed a felony.

Look it up...retard !



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You are the retarded one. At no time have I mentioned anything about committing a felony or not. My posts have been about her NOT doing anything that supported her being killed.

Perhaps since you are the retarded one, you need to see this:

AI Overview

Under U.S. law, the use of deadly force by a police officer is not justified solely by a person having committed a felony. Deadly force may only be used when an officer has
probable cause to believe the suspect poses a significant, imminent threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, or has committed a crime involving the actual or threatened infliction of serious physical harm and is fleeing.

He was NOT a risk of losing his life. She was not armed and she was trying to flee (not kill the officer). The officer was standing slightly to the left of the car (as this picture shows):

and the wheel of the car is turning right (not at him) as she was trying to flee. Her death was not warranted and he is not legally protected for what he did. Then again, with Trump saying he did the right thing and with him running the justice department, he probably will not be charged. What else is new?

By the way, you should seek help for the mental retardation you are suffering from. Trump does not care about YOU personally, so being as retarded as you are and there being so many Democrats that are now attacking Trump supporters, you are in grave danger.

 

[Mack The Finger]

You are the retarded one. At no time have I mentioned anything about you saying committing a felony or not. My posts have been about her NOT doing anything that supported her being killed.

By the way, you should seek help for the mental retardation you are suffering from. not. My posts have been about her NOT doing anything that supported her being killed.

I didn't mentioned anything about you saying the B&H committed a felony. I didn't say you did....I did....but it does matter what you mentioned. The B&H crimitted a crime by failing to put her hands up as the officers where yelling for her to stop.

Also (in Pennsylvania at least) the police can legally shoot a fleeing felon in the back and will not be breaking the law.
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[Luckyone]

I didn't mentioned anything about you saying the B&H committed a felony. I didn't say you did....I did....but it does matter what you mentioned. The B&H crimitted a crime by failing to put her hands up as the officers where yelling for her to stop.

Also (in Pennsylvania at least) the police can legally shoot a fleeing felon in the back and will not be breaking the law.
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You are truly blind by choice

AI Overview

In Pennsylvania, a police officer cannot shoot a fleeing felon who does not pose an immediate threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others. The U.S. Supreme Court case Tennessee v. Garner established that using deadly force solely to prevent escape is unconstitutional if the suspect is unarmed and non-dangerous.

Pennsylvania law on the use of force, specifically 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 508, generally aligns with this standard. An officer is justified in using deadly force only in specific, narrow circumstances:

 

[Papageorgio]

You are the retarded one. At no time have I mentioned anything about committing a felony or not. My posts have been about her NOT doing anything that supported her being killed.

Perhaps since you are the retarded one, you need to see this:

AI Overview

Under U.S. law, the use of deadly force by a police officer is not justified solely by a person having committed a felony. Deadly force may only be used when an officer has
probable cause to believe the suspect poses a significant, imminent threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, or has committed a crime involving the actual or threatened infliction of serious physical harm and is fleeing.

He was NOT a risk of losing his life. She was not armed and she was trying to flee (not kill the officer). The officer was standing slightly to the left of the car (as this picture shows):

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and the wheel of the car is turning right (not at him) as she was trying to flee. Her death was not warranted and he is not legally protected for what he did. Then again, with Trump saying he did the right thing and with him running the justice department, he probably will not be charged. What else is new?

By the way, you should seek help for the mental retardation you are suffering from. Trump does not care about YOU personally, so being as retarded as you are and there being so many Democrats that are now attacking Trump supporters, you are in grave danger.

You have been on the wrong side of so many issues lately, tough to take a person like yourself seriously due to your strong partisan politics influencing your weak opinions.

How any times since Trump has been in office have you predicted a stock market down turn? It didn’t happen. You predicted Harris by a landslide and called me ignorant for not agreeing with you. You initially blame the right wing of starting a fire at a judges house, another lie. You even tried to get people to buy stock and it has since fallen by almost 50%.

Your AI means nothing in a court. The agent was directly in front of the car, he couldn’t see the wheels, he saw a vehicle coming at him. He reasonably believed his life was in danger.

Again with the lies and deflection.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

You are truly blind by choice

AI Overview

In Pennsylvania, a police officer cannot shoot a fleeing felon who does not pose an immediate threat of death or serious bodily harm to the officer or others. The U.S. Supreme Court case Tennessee v. Garner established that using deadly force solely to prevent escape is unconstitutional if the suspect is unarmed and non-dangerous.

Pennsylvania law on the use of force, specifically 18 Pa. Cons. Stat. § 508, generally aligns with this standard. An officer is justified in using deadly force only in specific, narrow circumstances:

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And you allow a computer to do your thinking for you.

GIGO.








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[Hafar1014]

What part of I stand for facts, reason and intellectual consistency do you not get?

I'm supposed to give individual cops or ICE agents a pass on committing homicide just because I generally support law enforcement?

That is ******* stupid.

Facts alone mean nothing. You just like to complain and by not taking a stand you isolate yourself from criticism. Thats an intellectual coward.

 

[flack]

The left has lost all touch with reality!!!

 

[flack]

 

[AntonToo]

Facts alone mean nothing. You just like to complain and by not taking a stand you isolate yourself from criticism. Thats an intellectual coward.

What the **** is wrong with you?

 

[Hafar1014]

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What the **** is wrong with you?

Facts mean nothing without context. What moral ideology drives your thinking. More government or less. Strong defense or weak. High taxes or low taxes. Race matters or is irrelevant because culture matters. Single mothers or two parent families. Can gender be changed. Should men compete against women in sports.
As psychologist I can tell you that emotions determine what you think you know and determine how intelligence and reason is applied.