UN: Israel committed "Complete Massacre" and "the worst ever" in Gaza

[Toddsterpatriot]

Bio / Chem, D.U. (Depleted Uranium), I.D.U. and genotoxic weaponry that Israel is developing in ways to exterminate future generations of Palestinians,

Hilarious!

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I have a couple of ideas. How about a peace treaty. Economic development. Trade agreements. Partnerships with Arab nations. Revitalized education system. University exchanges. Independence and statehood. Seems reasonable. Why don't the people of Gaza employ these legal methods of conflict resolution?

That would take concessions from both sides. For example Israel would never agree to the Palestinians setting up their own military, air force and so on like other states are free to do, it's a non starter so long as Israel continues to steal land, demolish homes, detain people without charge, build settlements etc, not gonna happen.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You said that 2.5 million (the population of Gaza) would elicit your disapproval, yet 38,000 does not,

I said 38,000 does not? Where? Link?

No, but you never condemned the attack on Gaza and we know 38,000 have been killed.

How many have been killed in Gaza?

About 38,000

International reaction,

You said Israel is committing genocide, but only something like one dead per bomb.
Why are you lying?

Very well, by that line of reasoning the Nazis did not commit genocide, if you agree to that I'll agree that Israel is not committing genocide in Gaza.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, but you never condemned the attack on Gaza and we know 38,000 have been killed.

About 38,000

Very well, by that line of reasoning the Nazis did not commit genocide, if you agree to that I'll agree that Israel is not committing genocide in Gaza.

No, but you never condemned the attack on Gaza and we know 38,000 have been killed.

How do we know that?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Well actually the attack on Gaza is the most recent one and the most violent

Massive terrorist attacks tend to trigger retaliation. Just like Hamas wanted.

OK so there's no compulsion to condemn terrorism if that terrorism is retaliation for other terrorism? is that your position?

so if these are your criteria why aren't you condemning Israel's attack?

Because Hamas wanted it, they caused it.

OK so part of your criteria now is that in order to be condemned it must have been carried out by Hamas? is that your position?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

OK so there's no compulsion to condemn terrorism if that terrorism is retaliation for other terrorism? is that your position?

OK so part of your criteria now is that in order to be condemned it must have been carried out by Hamas? is that your position?

Israel's war in Gaza isn't terrorism.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

No, but you never condemned the attack on Gaza and we know 38,000 have been killed.

How do we know that?

Its reported from within Gaza, by the Health Ministry, the ministry receives statistics daily from every functioning hospital. The current count stands at 38,345. You can read all about it here.

Naturally it's going differ from the actual count, there are people buried under rubble that could not be rescued, people dying in the streets, mass graves from suspected Israeli massacres and so on.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Israel's war in Gaza isn't terrorism.

Neither was Hamas's attack then.

 

[Shusha]

That would take concessions from both sides. For example Israel would never agree to the Palestinians setting up their own military, air force and so on like other states are free to do,

Distraction. We are settling this without violence, so, in the context of this conversation, we have no need to consider things like a military. We are looking at legal, non-violent conflict resolution.

it's a non starter so long as Israel continues to steal land, demolish homes, detain people without charge, build settlements etc, not gonna happen.

None of these things are happening in Gaza. Let's not make problems where there are none. Let's concentrate on Gaza. Gaza has a defined territory. A peace treaty will establish exact boundaries. The government of Gaza will govern their territory, and Israel will govern theirs. Economic development. Trade agreements. Partnerships with interested Arab nations. Revitalized education systems. University exchanges.

All this is easily possible, in the context of a non-violent solution to the conflict.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The recent developments in the Gaza Strip have provoked a stern response from the United Nations Coordinator for Humanitarian Affairs, who has labeled the situation as a “complete massacre,” making it the worst of its kind to date. This sharp escalation of violence in the historically volatile region implies a substantial number of casualties and a dire humanitarian condition, potentially signaling a crisis of grave implications for the local populace as well as international relations.

Unprecedented Violence Unfolds​

The executive director of the United Nations Children’s Fund has dubbed Gaza as the most perilous place for children worldwide. Stunning reports reveal the death of over 5,300 Palestinian children within a mere 46-day span, marking children as 40% of the total casualties in Gaza. The situation has deteriorated to such an extent that around 1,200 children are still to be accounted for, trapped under the rubble of demolished buildings.

Attempted Ceasefire Amidst the Chaos​

The cease-fire talks between the Hamas militant group and Israel are underway, with confirmations from both sides. The deal, brokered by Washington and Qatar, aims to bring a temporary halt to the escalating war, which is currently in its seventh week. The truce, due to commence on Thursday morning, could potentially offer a respite to the nearly 1,037,000 internally displaced Palestinians seeking shelter in UNRWA facilities across the Gaza Strip.

International Reactions and Responses​

The sudden surge in violence has drawn a mixed response from the global community. The United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution calling for an immediate and sustained humanitarian truce and cessation of hostilities. This resolution was adopted by a vote of 121 states to 14, with 44 abstentions. Israel’s Western allies, such as the United States and several European countries, condemned the attacks by Hamas, expressing solidarity for Israel and affirming its right to self-defense.

UN Labels Gaza Violence as 'Complete Massacre': A Crisis Unfolding

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That's what winning a war looks like.

Israel has had enough.

 

[Shusha]

it's a non starter so long as Israel continues to steal land, demolish homes, detain people without charge, build settlements etc, not gonna happen.

These are West Bank issues. And these are issues that are the result of use of violence, not the cause. These issues are also easy to solve within the context of legal, non-violent conflict resolution. The steps are very basic.

1. Establish basic ground rules such as equality under the law, no ethnic cleansing, etc.
2. Determine where Israel ends and Palestine begins.
3. Sign a peace treaty.
4. Economic development ....

None of this is difficult.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Its reported from within Gaza, by the Health Ministry, the ministry receives statistics daily from every functioning hospital. The current count stands at 38,345. You can read all about it here.

Naturally it's going differ from the actual count, there are people buried under rubble that could not be rescued, people dying in the streets, mass graves from suspected Israeli massacres and so on.

Its reported from within Gaza, by the Health Ministry,

Right. By Hamas.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Neither was Hamas's attack then.

Liar.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Distraction. We are settling this without violence, so, in the context of this conversation, we have no need to consider things like a military. We are looking at legal, non-violent conflict resolution.

Who has no need to consider a Palestinian military? The Palestinians have as much a right to be able to defend themselves as does Israel, that's totally legal and non violent.

Israel refuses to consider this and so they deny the Palestinians the right to defend themselves and that's not a basis for any peace treaty, being denied an armed forces is not something even Germany had to endure after WW2.

None of these things are happening in Gaza.

Gaza and the West Bank is where Palestinians "live". They are a single people but have been forced to function as two distinct people by the Israelis. Many of the people in Gaza are refugees from earlier ethnic cleansing and settlement building in the West Bank too, so Gaza and the West Bank are inextricably linked, why do you seek to decouple them?

Let's not make problems where there are none. Let's concentrate on Gaza. Gaza has a defined territory. A peace treaty will establish exact boundaries. The government of Gaza will govern their territory, and Israel will govern theirs. Economic development. Trade agreements. Partnerships with interested Arab nations. Revitalized education systems. University exchanges.

All this is easily possible, in the context of a non-violent solution to the conflict.

So your idea of a peace treaty begins by stipulating non-negotiable conditions that include: no military or armed forces, no Israeli concessions on its activities in the West Bank (this creating an ongoing stream of refugees into Gaza), no airport in Gaza (it did have one but the Israelis bulldozed it because of attacks carried out in the West Bank). That's not really equitable, the people have a fundamental right to be free, not live in enclaves.

Gaza has offshore oil reserves, do you think the Israelis are not aware of those? do you think they are willing to let Gaza use those to build its economy? Go and read about Palestinian oil, its eye opening.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Liar.

I knew it, you've run out of arguments, you've been outwitted and have nothing left but name calling, another one bites the dust!

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Its reported from within Gaza, by the Health Ministry,

Right. By Hamas.

Well yes, Hamas is a political party and rules Gaza, what are you trying to say?

 

[Grau]

radioactive D.U.

How radioactive is it?

the most concerning weapon is Israel's genotoxic D.I.M.E. bomb that leaves untreatable wounds, incurable illness and genetic maladies that sicken future generations.

Genetic maladies? How does that work?

" Scientific studies have found that HMTA is chemically toxic, damages the immune system, rapidly causes cancer, and attacks DNA (genotoxic)

It's used as a food preservative.

I don't pretend to be a geneticist or a nuclear engineer so, you can easily find some answers, yourself with a little time.

I already explained why Israel's genotoxic weaponry is especially heinous and criminal in that it kills and sickens unborn/ future generations for generations.

Please think before attempting to defend the indefensible.

Thanks,

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Neither was Hamas's attack then.

You know it was.

It's just the kind of terrorism you like:

Against jews.

 

[Grau]

And yet you have no problem with "arbitrarily" condemning Israel. That is an interesting double standard.

The big difference is that Israeli lobbies extort $ Trillions for decades of Zionist genocide but nothing for Gaza's native residents.

America's welfare state commits genocide with America's criminal complicity.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The big difference is that Israeli lobbies extort $ Trillions for decades of Zionist genocide but nothing for Gaza's native residents.

America's welfare state commits genocide with America's criminal complicity.

That was tried.

The Gazans grabbed their ankles for the Muslim death cult and let the cult steal their aid.