Ukrainian Soldier Confirms Ukraine's Military Shot Down Malaysian Plane...

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Obviously this conflicts with the American Government/Corporate Media's story, but this very well could be the truth. I know most Americans' first instinct is to defend the Government/Corporate Media party-line, but they really should consider all possibilities.


A Ukrainian soldier who was part of the crew that operated the supposed missile-battery that the Ukrainian Government claims shot down the Malaysian MH17 airliner on July 17th has testified publicly for the first time, saying that the missile-battery was operated by the Ukrainian military, not by the rebels as asserted, and that he and his former crew-mates who operated it laughed when they heard their Government say that this missile-battery was operated by rebels and had shot the airliner down.

An English-translated transcript of the December 15th Russian-language interview with this soldier was posted at UkraineWar.Info on December 17th by Michael Collins, an investigative journalist with UkraineWar.Info who has been following very closely the multiple investigations that are proceeding into the cause of the downing.

This testimony confirms the accumulating prior, already overwhelming and even-more-convincing evidence, which is linked to in my latest article on the topic, here, all of which evidence indicates that either one or else two Ukrainian fighter-jets intentionally shot this airliner down — that it was not an error by rebels who had mis-identified this airliner as being a bomber from the Ukrainian Government, such as the Ukrainian Government and its sponsor the U.S. Government claim.

Regarding the reason why the Ukrainian Government did this, it, too, is clear: U.S. President Obama needed a startling incident in order to obtain from the EU and other U.S.-allied nations their participation in heavily increased economic sanctions to weaken Russia...

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Why are you using a Russian propaganda organ as your source, rube?
 
Well, Putin's got a bit of a track record on this of floating out theories that don't hold water. Most likely the former soviets are now faced with the likelihood that their fabrication of a Ukrainian air craft shot it down is inconsistent with physical evidence. So, now it's a Ukrainian air defense unit ... when the separitists were the ones getting hammered from the air before the Russians gave them air defense systems.
 
Why are you using a Russian propaganda organ as your source, rube?
Maybe, because it is right?

Most Americans have a very hard time excepting anything that's not being pushed by the American Government/Corporate Media. It is what it is.

Last century the all the West was making fun of the Soviet Union, whose people had to live behind the Iron Curtain. This century the majority of journalists from Europe and USA created another one: Iron Curtain-2 around Western countries, so that the people of those countries by no chance would know the true situation in Ukraine and who is killing whom there. Because if Western taxpayers got to know that new Ukrainian regime is exterminating their own people, who don't agree with that regime, then those taxpayers could start questioning their governments about the reasons for sponsoring official Kiev. And a myth about Hitler/Putin invading Ukraine, created by Russia's "Western partners", would collapse like a house of cards.
It's a shame for Western journalism..... BTW, in June and July 4 Russian journalists and 1 Italian were killed by Ukrainian troops in the conflict zone. Russian journalists were trying to do their best to bring and to show the truth to the whole world, those guys should be a sample for the others....
 
Probability and available evidence suggest this is more likely than a Russian SAM.
This ghost Russian SAM was photographed more than 24 hours after it was supposed to have left Ukraine, but there are independent photos of Ukrainian SAMs, deployed against rebels with no aircraft.
 
Probability and available evidence suggest this is more likely than a Russian SAM.
This ghost Russian SAM was photographed more than 24 hours after it was supposed to have left Ukraine, but there are independent photos of Ukrainian SAMs, deployed against rebels with no aircraft.

Yes. And the picture of that phantom "Russian SAM", presented by Ukrainians, was taken with a banner in the background, which pointed to a town, controlled by Ukrainian Army by July,17. And its number 321 was also "caught" at the other pictures of Ukrainian SAMS, taken by civilians a few days before.
Paradox.
 
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Why are you using a Russian propaganda organ as your source, rube?
Maybe, because it is right?

Most Americans have a very hard time excepting anything that's not being pushed by the American Government/Corporate Media. It is what it is.

Last century the all the West was making fun of the Soviet Union, whose people had to live behind the Iron Curtain. This century the majority of journalists from Europe and USA created another one: Iron Curtain-2 around Western countries, so that the people of those countries by no chance would know the true situation in Ukraine and who is killing whom there. Because if Western taxpayers got to know that new Ukrainian regime is exterminating their own people, who don't agree with that regime, then those taxpayers could start questioning their governments about the reasons for sponsoring official Kiev. And a myth about Hitler/Putin invading Ukraine, created by Russia's "Western partners", would collapse like a house of cards.
It's a shame for Western journalism..... BTW, in June and July 4 Russian journalists and 1 Italian were killed by Ukrainian troops in the conflict zone. Russian journalists were trying to do their best to bring and to show the truth to the whole world, those guys should be a sample for the others....

Clearly the West, especially the U.S. and Great Britain were big instigators of the coup in Kiev. The West is the aggressor. But obviously the American Government/Corporate Media is going with the 'Putin is Hitler' narrative. And sadly, the Sheeple are lapping it up.

Ever since the Soviet Union fell, the West has grown more & more aggressive against Russia. It has even forced missiles into Russia's backyard. It looks like Putin and Russia are tired of being pushed around. Looks like it's gonna start pushing back.
 
Propaganda is a powerful tool, especially when the population has grown up indoctrinated into an idea their country can do no wrong.
 

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