Ukraine and the 80th Anniversary of the Victory over German Nazism

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80 years ago, the United Nations crushed German Nazism.

However, now the US, Great Britain and France are helping post-Maidan Ukraine with finances and weapons. The leaders of these countries don’t care that one of the first innovations in Ukraine after the so-called “Maidan victory” was the decision of the Ukrainian parliament to repeal the language law.

Although this law had granted certain rights to ethnic minorities to use their native language in certain areas of public life. Such rights were granted to ethnic Russians too, who were then the largest ethnic minority in Ukraine.

Currently, ethnic Russians in Ukraine are inferior citizens, since they have fewer rights in terms of using their native language than the so-called indigenous peoples of Ukraine. And Russians are not an indigenous people according to Ukrainian law. Russians also have fewer rights than those non-indigenous peoples whose native language is one of the official languages of the European Union.

In Ukraine, the authorities claim that such a curtailment of the rights of the country's largest ethnic minority has allegedly occurred due to the worsening relations between Ukraine and Russia, inter alia, after the referendum on March 16, 2014, on Crimea's accession to the Russian Federation.

However, a simple analysis of the dates proves that this is not the case.

The Ukrainian parliament voted overwhelmingly to repeal the aforementioned language law on February 23, 2014, and the referendum in the Crimea took place only on March 16, 2014.

Therefore, it is necessary to reverse the cause and effect.

It was not the worsening of relations between Ukraine and Russia that caused the curtailment of the rights of ethnic Russians in Ukraine, but the curtailment of the rights of ethnic Russians in Ukraine that caused the worsening of relations between Ukraine and Russia.

Another reason for the aggravation of the situation in Ukraine is that after the so-called “Maidan victory” in 2014, symbols of Nazi Germany are widely used in Ukraine.

According to official data, the human losses of the peoples of the USSR during the war against Nazi Germany amounted to 26.6 million people out of a total population of 196.7 million people at the beginning of this war.
For comparison, it can be said that US losses on the German front amounted to approximately 250,000 people out of 133 million at the beginning of the war.

Therefore, in countries that were earlier parts of the USSR, the majority of citizens have a very negative attitude towards Nazi symbols.

Formally, these symbols are banned in Ukraine too, but Western media constantly show footages of the use of such symbols in Ukrainian government structures.

The beginning of this thread shows a still from a story filmed by the German state media corporation Deutsche Welle last month at a Ukrainian army training camp.​


And in August of last year, I made a thread on the forum about the use of Nazi symbols by the Ukrainian army in the Kursk region.

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... Unser Dank gilt Amerikanern, Briten, Franzosen und all denen, die mit ihnen den Kampf gegen den nationalsozialistischen Terror führten.

Aber wir wissen auch, welchen Beitrag die Rote Armee dabei geleistet hat, Russen, Ukrainer, Weißrussen und alle, die in ihr gekämpft haben. Mindestens 13 Millionen dieser Soldaten und noch einmal ebenso viele Zivilisten verloren ihr Leben. Die Rote Armee hat Auschwitz befreit.

All das vergessen wir nicht. Aber gerade deshalb treten wir den heutigen Geschichtslügen des Kreml entschieden entgegen. Auch wenn das morgen bei den Siegesfeiern in Moskau wieder behauptet werden sollte: Der Krieg gegen die Ukraine ist eben keine Fortsetzung des Kampfes gegen den Faschismus. Putins Angriffskrieg, sein Feldzug gegen ein freies, demokratisches Land, hat nichts gemein mit dem Kampf gegen die nationalsozialistische Gewaltherrschaft im Zweiten Weltkrieg. Am Ende ist diese Geschichtslüge nichts als eine Verbrämung imperialen Wahns, schweren Unrechts und schwerster Verbrechen!

Auch und gerade am 8. Mai gilt: Wir unterstützen die Ukraine in ihrem Kampf um ihre Freiheit, ihre Demokratie, ihre Souveränität. Ließen wir die Ukraine schutz- und wehrlos zurück, hieße das, die Lehren des 8. Mai zu verraten! ...

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Franz Walter Steinmeyer, President of the federal republic of Germany

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... Our thanks go to the Americans, the British, the French and all those who fought with them against the National Socialist terror.

But we are also aware of the contribution made by the Red Army, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians and all those who fought in it. At least 13 million of these soldiers and just as many civilians lost their lives. The Red Army liberated Auschwitz.

We do not forget all that. But that is precisely why we firmly oppose the Kremlin's lies about history today. Even if this is claimed again tomorrow at the victory celebrations in Moscow: The war against Ukraine is simply not a continuation of the fight against fascism. Putin's war of aggression, his campaign against a free, democratic country, has nothing in common with the fight against Nazi tyranny in the Second World War. In the end, this historical lie is nothing more than a smokescreen for imperial madness, grave injustice and the most serious crimes!

Also and especially on May 8, we support Ukraine in its struggle for freedom, democracy and sovereignty. To leave Ukraine unprotected and defenseless would be to betray the lessons of May 8! ...

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Ukraine and the 80th Anniversary of the Victory over German Nazism​

Yes it is the Banderite Nazi fan bois that are getting support from people who should know better in the current conflict.
 

Ukraine and the 80th Anniversary of the Victory over German Nazism​

Yes it is the Banderite Nazi fan bois that are getting support from people who should know better in the current conflict.

Bandera was a totally unimportant man in the Ukrainian history.
 
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Not to his victims, nor to the victims of his followers.

Bandera was arrested in a concentration camp from the Nazis. Very very short: "Although Bandera was supplied with German weapons, he fought primarily for Ukrainian independence. He therefore temporarily allied himself with Soviet partisans against the Germans, then again with the anti-communist Polish “Home Army” against the Red Army." (source: Stepan Bandera – Wikipedia )

And by the way: I still think no one murdered more Russians than Stalin did do. This man was a totally perverted monster.
 
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The war against Ukraine is simply not a continuation of the fight against fascism. Putin's war of aggression, his campaign against a free, democratic country, has nothing in common with the fight against Nazi tyranny...
See below a picture of "free, democratic Ukrainians" from the thread about the use of Nazi symbols by the Ukrainian army in the Kursk region.​

 
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See below a picture of "free, democratic Ukrainians" from the thread about the use of Nazi symbols by the Ukrainian army in the Kursk region.​


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In den Jahren vor der russischen Revolution war das Hakenkreuz auf Ikonen, Bekleidungsstücken und Tellern sowie auf Fahrzeugen der Romanows abgebildet. In der Antike tauchte es oft in Kulturen im Kaukasus auf. Und ab 1917 wurde es auch in Sowjetrussland genutzt.
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Als die Februarrevolution vom März 1917 die autokratische Monarchie ablöste, war eine der ersten Entscheidungen der Übergangsregierung, neues Geld zu drucken. Auf den Banknoten war ein Hakenkreuz zu sehen.

Das neue Regime wurde jedoch im November desselben Jahres infolge der Oktoberrevolution gestürzt, die Wladimir Lenin und seine Bolschewiki an die Macht brachte. Im Chaos des folgenden Bürgerkriegs hatten sie weder die Zeit noch die technischen Möglichkeiten, neue Banknoten zu entwerfen und zu drucken, so dass weiter das Geld aus der Zeit der Übergangsregierung verwendet wurde. Und so waren Banknoten mit dem Hakenkreuz fast fünf Jahre lang im Umlauf, bis 1922.
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Im Verlauf des Bürgerkriegs, im November 1919, erließ Wassili Schorin, Kommandeur der Südostfront, den „Befehl 213“, der alle Kalmückischen Divisionen (mehrheitlich Buddhisten) aufforderte, eine Armbinde mit dem Hakenkreuz zu tragen.

Das Hakenkreuz wurde in dem Dokument als „Ljungtn“ bezeichnet - eine Rechtschreibfehler des buddhistischen Begriffs „Lungta“ („Windpferd“), der die menschliche Lebenskraft symbolisiert.
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source: Verwirrende Symbolik: Wie und warum die Sowjets das Hakenkreuz benutzten
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In the years before the Russian Revolution, the swastika was depicted on icons, items of clothing and plates, as well as on Romanov vehicles. In ancient times, it often appeared in cultures in the Caucasus. And from 1917 it was also used in Soviet Russia.
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When the February Revolution of March 1917 replaced the autocratic monarchy, one of the first decisions of the transitional government was to print new money. The banknotes featured a swastika.

However, the new regime was overthrown in November of the same year as a result of the October Revolution, which brought Vladimir Lenin and his Bolsheviks to power. In the chaos of the ensuing civil war, they had neither the time nor the technical means to design and print new banknotes, so the money from the time of the interim government continued to be used. And so banknotes with the swastika were in circulation for almost five years, until 1922.
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During the Civil War, in November 1919, Vasily Zhorin, commander of the Southeastern Front, issued “Order 213”, which ordered all Kalmyk divisions (mostly Buddhist) to wear an armband with the swastika.

The swastika was referred to in the document as “Ljungtn” - a misspelling of the Buddhist term “Lungta” (“wind horse”), which symbolizes the human life force.
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And the symbol that is most similar to the never really existing SS rune invented by the Nazis is the Z symbol used by the Red Army. The Red Army now includes the Russian “Wagner” mercenaries, who were Russian Nazis supported by Putin and paid for by the Russian taxpayer.

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Today in Ukraine they outlaw any celebrations for Victory over the Nazis, at the same time they celebrate Bandera and the Galizian 14th SS Division, that is all we need to know about the toxic mindset of the Kiev Regime.
 

80 years ago, the United Nations crushed German Nazism.

However, now the US, Great Britain and France are helping post-Maidan Ukraine with finances and weapons. The leaders of these countries don’t care that one of the first innovations in Ukraine after the so-called “Maidan victory” was the decision of the Ukrainian parliament to repeal the language law.

Although this law had granted certain rights to ethnic minorities to use their native language in certain areas of public life. Such rights were granted to ethnic Russians too, who were then the largest ethnic minority in Ukraine.

Currently, ethnic Russians in Ukraine are inferior citizens, since they have fewer rights in terms of using their native language than the so-called indigenous peoples of Ukraine. And Russians are not an indigenous people according to Ukrainian law. Russians also have fewer rights than those non-indigenous peoples whose native language is one of the official languages of the European Union.

In Ukraine, the authorities claim that such a curtailment of the rights of the country's largest ethnic minority has allegedly occurred due to the worsening relations between Ukraine and Russia, inter alia, after the referendum on March 16, 2014, on Crimea's accession to the Russian Federation.

However, a simple analysis of the dates proves that this is not the case.

The Ukrainian parliament voted overwhelmingly to repeal the aforementioned language law on February 23, 2014, and the referendum in the Crimea took place only on March 16, 2014.

Therefore, it is necessary to reverse the cause and effect.

It was not the worsening of relations between Ukraine and Russia that caused the curtailment of the rights of ethnic Russians in Ukraine, but the curtailment of the rights of ethnic Russians in Ukraine that caused the worsening of relations between Ukraine and Russia.

Another reason for the aggravation of the situation in Ukraine is that after the so-called “Maidan victory” in 2014, symbols of Nazi Germany are widely used in Ukraine.

According to official data, the human losses of the peoples of the USSR during the war against Nazi Germany amounted to 26.6 million people out of a total population of 196.7 million people at the beginning of this war.
For comparison, it can be said that US losses on the German front amounted to approximately 250,000 people out of 133 million at the beginning of the war.

Therefore, in countries that were earlier parts of the USSR, the majority of citizens have a very negative attitude towards Nazi symbols.

Formally, these symbols are banned in Ukraine too, but Western media constantly show footages of the use of such symbols in Ukrainian government structures.

The beginning of this thread shows a still from a story filmed by the German state media corporation Deutsche Welle last month at a Ukrainian army training camp.​


And in August of last year, I made a thread on the forum about the use of Nazi symbols by the Ukrainian army in the Kursk region.

Source



This is just pad Russian Propaganda...
Hey, if you believe in Russia so much, go fight for them... I think newbies last week these days, sorry 4 hours...

Yep, this is how little they care for their own you people....

They can **** off home anytime... Ukraine has nowhere to go...
 
This is just pad Russian Propaganda...
Hey, if you believe in Russia so much, go fight for them... I think newbies last week these days, sorry 4 hours...

Yep, this is how little they care for their own you people....

They can **** off home anytime... Ukraine has nowhere to go...
The Western leaders don't care about Ukrainians they just want a strategic defeat over Russia, seven million Ukrainians fought in the Red army, over three hundred thousand as Partisans, but when you talk of supporting Ukraine it isn't the memory of those men and Women it's the disciples of Bandera and other collaborators and SS volunteers, they are the people now leading the Kiev Regime they are the ones the West is supporting one of those bastards was even invited into the Canadian Parliament, it's a disgrace, and who cares what some American fascist thinks, and how is that article Russian propaganda? it's been known for years Azov have summer camps training their Hitler youth.
 
The Western leaders don't care about Ukrainians they just want a strategic defeat over Russia, seven million Ukrainians fought in the Red army, over three hundred thousand as Partisans, but when you talk of supporting Ukraine it isn't the memory of those men and Women it's the disciples of Bandera and other collaborators and SS volunteers, they are the people now leading the Kiev Regime they are the ones the West is supporting one of those bastards was even invited into the Canadian Parliament, it's a disgrace, and who cares what some American fascist thinks.
Same old tired story... You have no evidence just opinion from Russian media..
 
Same old tired story... You have no evidence just opinion from Russian media..
You are another one
Same old tired story... You have no evidence just opinion from Russian media..
You seem to be another Fridgeweirdo who is blind to the evidence that their own eyes show them, what the hell is the matter with you? that vid and many others are not Russian propaganda it was produced by the Guardian before like the other media they started a Nazi love in.
 
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... Unser Dank gilt Amerikanern, Briten, Franzosen und all denen, die mit ihnen den Kampf gegen den nationalsozialistischen Terror führten.

Aber wir wissen auch, welchen Beitrag die Rote Armee dabei geleistet hat, Russen, Ukrainer, Weißrussen und alle, die in ihr gekämpft haben. Mindestens 13 Millionen dieser Soldaten und noch einmal ebenso viele Zivilisten verloren ihr Leben. Die Rote Armee hat Auschwitz befreit.

All das vergessen wir nicht. Aber gerade deshalb treten wir den heutigen Geschichtslügen des Kreml entschieden entgegen. Auch wenn das morgen bei den Siegesfeiern in Moskau wieder behauptet werden sollte: Der Krieg gegen die Ukraine ist eben keine Fortsetzung des Kampfes gegen den Faschismus. Putins Angriffskrieg, sein Feldzug gegen ein freies, demokratisches Land, hat nichts gemein mit dem Kampf gegen die nationalsozialistische Gewaltherrschaft im Zweiten Weltkrieg. Am Ende ist diese Geschichtslüge nichts als eine Verbrämung imperialen Wahns, schweren Unrechts und schwerster Verbrechen!

Auch und gerade am 8. Mai gilt: Wir unterstützen die Ukraine in ihrem Kampf um ihre Freiheit, ihre Demokratie, ihre Souveränität. Ließen wir die Ukraine schutz- und wehrlos zurück, hieße das, die Lehren des 8. Mai zu verraten! ...

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Franz Walter Steinmeyer, President of the federal republic of Germany

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... Our thanks go to the Americans, the British, the French and all those who fought with them against the National Socialist terror.

But we are also aware of the contribution made by the Red Army, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians and all those who fought in it. At least 13 million of these soldiers and just as many civilians lost their lives. The Red Army liberated Auschwitz.

We do not forget all that. But that is precisely why we firmly oppose the Kremlin's lies about history today. Even if this is claimed again tomorrow at the victory celebrations in Moscow: The war against Ukraine is simply not a continuation of the fight against fascism. Putin's war of aggression, his campaign against a free, democratic country, has nothing in common with the fight against Nazi tyranny in the Second World War. In the end, this historical lie is nothing more than a smokescreen for imperial madness, grave injustice and the most serious crimes!

Also and especially on May 8, we support Ukraine in its struggle for freedom, democracy and sovereignty. To leave Ukraine unprotected and defenseless would be to betray the lessons of May 8! ...

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80 years ago, the United Nations crushed German Nazism.

However, now the US, Great Britain and France are helping post-Maidan Ukraine with finances and weapons. The leaders of these countries don’t care that one of the first innovations in Ukraine after the so-called “Maidan victory” was the decision of the Ukrainian parliament to repeal the language law.

Although this law had granted certain rights to ethnic minorities to use their native language in certain areas of public life. Such rights were granted to ethnic Russians too, who were then the largest ethnic minority in Ukraine.

Currently, ethnic Russians in Ukraine are inferior citizens, since they have fewer rights in terms of using their native language than the so-called indigenous peoples of Ukraine. And Russians are not an indigenous people according to Ukrainian law. Russians also have fewer rights than those non-indigenous peoples whose native language is one of the official languages of the European Union.

In Ukraine, the authorities claim that such a curtailment of the rights of the country's largest ethnic minority has allegedly occurred due to the worsening relations between Ukraine and Russia, inter alia, after the referendum on March 16, 2014, on Crimea's accession to the Russian Federation.

However, a simple analysis of the dates proves that this is not the case.

The Ukrainian parliament voted overwhelmingly to repeal the aforementioned language law on February 23, 2014, and the referendum in the Crimea took place only on March 16, 2014.

Therefore, it is necessary to reverse the cause and effect.

It was not the worsening of relations between Ukraine and Russia that caused the curtailment of the rights of ethnic Russians in Ukraine, but the curtailment of the rights of ethnic Russians in Ukraine that caused the worsening of relations between Ukraine and Russia.

Another reason for the aggravation of the situation in Ukraine is that after the so-called “Maidan victory” in 2014, symbols of Nazi Germany are widely used in Ukraine.

According to official data, the human losses of the peoples of the USSR during the war against Nazi Germany amounted to 26.6 million people out of a total population of 196.7 million people at the beginning of this war.
For comparison, it can be said that US losses on the German front amounted to approximately 250,000 people out of 133 million at the beginning of the war.

Therefore, in countries that were earlier parts of the USSR, the majority of citizens have a very negative attitude towards Nazi symbols.

Formally, these symbols are banned in Ukraine too, but Western media constantly show footages of the use of such symbols in Ukrainian government structures.

The beginning of this thread shows a still from a story filmed by the German state media corporation Deutsche Welle last month at a Ukrainian army training camp.​


And in August of last year, I made a thread on the forum about the use of Nazi symbols by the Ukrainian army in the Kursk region.

Source

Putin's attacking Ukraine resulted in Sweden and Finland seeking security in full NATO membership.

European democracies have been resolute in opposing the Rooskie invader and his North Korean allies. Putin's unprovoked war of aggression failed.


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