Ukraine a global mafia.....torture, child sex trafficking, corruption

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He wants Trump to stay in the game by dangling doggy treats (rare earths), in front of his nose.

Hopefully Trump doesn't bite, and stays on track to end the war based upon being the bigger more humanitarian guy/negotiator in the room. Otherwise being one who doesn't fall for the use of leveraging these materials in order to persuade an outcome instead of him just using common sense and righteous thinking that will get both sides to agree to something without having it to appear as if we are picking winner's or losers in the situation based upon certain types of gifts being available as a bribe.
 
I am feeling rather vindicated in my lack of support for this war that is NOT OUR BUSINESS. I might just start with the meeting this past week and bring it up to date. It is clear now that Zelensky does not want peace...he wants the war to continue. THIS MEANS...he has not been acting in good faith to the President, Vice President and Secretary of State. I think we all saw that this past week with the televised discussion. Personally i think there is enough evidence to support the belief that he was put up to this by Obama surrogates who only want to cause division in this country and another attempt to sabotage this president.
 


This is a partial of the meeting between zelensky, Trump, Vance, Rubio et al.

stand up says the media. This neednt have happened...everything was worked out, all this little elf needed to do was to march in there, smile, sign the paper, have lunch and LEAVE and Ukraine would have had protection from us because we now had an interest in the country monetarily.
 
Calypso Jones wrote:European leaders pledge to stand by Ukraine after confrontational Oval Office meeting with Trump

EU leaders pledge to stand BY Ukraine. well GOOD. What's that mean..exactly Stand BY.

NATO has said it won’t get actively involved from day one and if the US drops out with its funding, European Union support will quickly fizzle out. There will be the usual sabre rattling about France putting boots on the ground and Britain patrolling the sky’s above Ukraine, but it was Biden who kept all this going for the past four years, not Europe.
 



That didn't take long and he didn't even have to change clothes.

British and European Union politicians are all that scruffy little Zelensky has left to count on and the people of Britain certainly weren’t standing in the streets applauding him.
 
I am feeling rather vindicated in my lack of support for this war that is NOT OUR BUSINESS. I might just start with the meeting this past week and bring it up to date. It is clear now that Zelensky does not want peace...he wants the war to continue. THIS MEANS...he has not been acting in good faith to the President, Vice President and Secretary of State. I think we all saw that this past week with the televised discussion. Personally i think there is enough evidence to support the belief that he was put up to this by Obama surrogates who only want to cause division in this country and another attempt to sabotage this president.
My post was exactly indicating that this may have been a trap set for Trump by Zelinsky, and this was when he walked into that meeting with Trump in a puppy like appearence, but soon became arrogant and defiant after the leftist media began to push or persuade or push the situation into a direction for certain outcomes.

Zelinsky wants to defeat Russia by every indication of his word's spoken in that meeting, and this is instead of striking a deal for the entire thing to end, but like Trump tried to tell him (he Zelinsky has no card's to play), because it wasn't Zelinsky and his soldier's that are holding Russia back from totally taking over Ukraine, but rather it is instead because of the money and weapons that were being supplied to the Ukranians. It is why they were sustaining their fight in the war with Russia and nothing more.
 
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My post was exactly indicating that this may have been a trap set for Trump by Zelinsky when he walked into that meeting with Trump. Zelinsky wants to defeat Russia by every indication of his word's spoken in that meeting instead of striking a deal for the entire thing to end, but like Trump tried to tell him (he Zelinsky has no card's to play), because it wasn't Zelinsky and his soldier's that are holding Russia back from totally taking over Ukraine, but rather it is instead because of the money and weapons that were being supplied to the Ukranians. It is why they were sustaining their fight in the war with Russia and nothing more.
I'm sorry..i should have acknowledged your post. absolutely. and don't forget the money laundering aspect of this whole thing and the potential for that information to be made public. Bet there's a lot of shredding going on tonite all over the world.
 
Ten Facts about Ukraine and Nato:

10 Hard Facts About Ukraine and NATO

1. Russia is absolutely in the wrong for invading Ukraine. (THIS ONE, i disagree with. As i understand it, Ukraine was responsible for attacking russia supporting Ukrainian Russians.)

2. Ukraine is not going to be able to win the war if the definition of winning the war is recovering all the conquered Ukrainian territory.

3. Zelensky will have to accept the reality that America will need to be paid back for its aid, which means, as a practical matter, access to Ukraine’s mineral reserves.

4. Ukraine is an unbelievably corrupt country, and the idea that no substantial portion of our aid money has been stolen is ridiculous.

5. The American people are, by and large, tired of subsidizing Ukraine’s end of this war.

6. China is a substantially greater threat to the United States than Russia in the macro.

7. The Europeans should be taking the lead in supporting Ukraine and should be taking the lead in defending Europe. T

8. The campaign to insult critics of past Ukraine policy by calling them Putin’s puppets and so forth is a lie and is going to result in enmity towards the idea of helping the Ukrainians. You cannot insult Americans into obedience. You cannot fail to address their legitimate concerns and expect them to agree with you.

9. Some of our NATO allies are participating in internal repression, including suppression of free speech and the right to organize and participate in elections via non-establishment parties. This dangerously undercuts the moral argument in favor of NATO. Americans have no desire to spend blood and treasure defending countries that arrest people for speaking. And the Europeans refuse to accept the judgment of their people. Just this week, the allegedly conservative German party that came in first in the election after promising to close German borders announced the very next day that it would not be closing borders. That’s bad. Why again should we spend money on these people? I mean, it’s only been 80 years.

10. It is in America’s interest that this war ends.


additional info at link for each bullet point.
 
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Eat it, Europe | Frontpage Mag
author: Bruce Bawer

European leaders are not our partners.
NOR are they champions by any stretch of the imagination.

Two decades ago I reviewed a book called A Declaration of Interdependence: Why America Should Join the World by a British columnist named Will Hutton, who was only voicing the elitist European consensus when he deplored the “American belief in the primacy of the individual” and scorned the individualist-oriented American Revolution – even as he championed the European “belief in the primacy of society” and the communalist-oriented French Revolution. It was precisely this attitude, I noted in my review, that “made possible the rise of Fascism, Nazism, and Communism” and “obliged the U.S. to step in and save the Continent from itself in World War II.”

And it’s precisely this attitude that makes Trump’s return to power – and the rise in Europe of politicians like Georgia Meloni, who said at this year’s CPAC, “We serve the people, we do not rule over them” – strike terror in Europe’s corridors of power. For Trump and MAGA Americans are showing the European masses how it’s done. True, as Daniel Greenfield wrote the other day, the way in which European parliamentary systems are structured may well “make it impossible for Europe to vote its way out of the Islamization crisis.” Still, the elites’ hold on power is becoming more and more precarious. And they are plainly trembling in fear that the European masses may yet awaken in numbers large enough to send those elites, at long last, to the dustbin of history.


so kiss our American neanderthal ass.
 
I'm sorry..i should have acknowledged your post. absolutely. and don't forget the money laundering aspect of this whole thing and the potential for that information to be made public. Bet there's a lot of shredding going on tonite all over the world.
I bet the shredding has been going on for the past 4 year's. Yes...
 
He's An Optimist: Trump, Vance Shake Europe Awake From Liberal Dream

there's a big disconnect between European citizens and European leaders...and European leaders are understanding that...and willing themselves to show no fear and hold onto power for all it is worth..and they'll do terrible things to the public in order to do that. Question is...how long will they get to continue that.

Later, a shell-shocked group of top European leaders tweeted a joint statement pledging support for Zelensky and Ukraine. “You are never alone, dear President @Zelenskyyua,” they said.

Well, yes he is—and this is the reality with which Donald Trump and JD Vance brutally smacked Europe. That is, European countries may stand with Ukraine in words, but absent American money, arms, and hard power, what do they have to offer?
 
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